Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective

Professional CSGO players are on another level on insane at the game, but are some too insane? Today we'll be looking into CSGO pro cheating scandals and I'll give my own opinion on it.
Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective
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[@NoHyper]

Hopefully you all enjoyed! If you did, please leave a like and subscribe. This is by far the longest video I've ever made, both in length and time to create. Love you guys

[@futuristic-]

These type of videos are way better and way more original. Would love to see more.

[@kwjc01]

i love how unique your vids are compared to the hvh scene. Nice work.

[@Rootzi]

more of these documentary type videos they are brilliant

[@luke7367]

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[@verylongchannelhandle]

Did not expect this type of video from you tbh! Very well done and it's clear you put a lot of effort into it! Good job

[@beeeeeej]

Honestly it’s so hard to judge some clips because everything we see as a spectator, is not what the players see. Things such as latency, monitor, screen resolution, settings.

[@JohnWick-ch3ix]

The most important you forgot the brain of other player

[@Mahjoneesi]

Especially when people "trace" enemies through walls. It's most of the times just muscle memory doing it's job. Of course in some cases there are cheats involved.

[@therealb888]

All these variables can be replicated, tested and can be subject to statistical analysis. Essentially measuring how much of these variables actually make a difference and how can we reduce their impact so we can observe and investigate or detect with the least error rate possible.

[@arizonad8012]

Acually is not.I've played CS 1.6 and now CS GO (started from last year), and I was always able to say who is cheating.Even in the open, based on how the player reacts.The point is that people from organizations don't care.When CS 1.6 was popular there were maps that you can choose, made by various people, each of those maps had admins who took care, so no cheaters could survive.You find someone suspisious, you record him/her using cheats and you ban him/her.End of story.Those were good times.Now you find a cheater, you record him/her, report him/her, and nothing happens which encourages more and more people to use it.

[@dagroseren]

@@Mahjoneesi I have a friend that can track people with sound only, not a good player otherwise, which when watching him do it from spectating looks sketch af

[@NitishDobhal]

Its amazing how forsaken single handedly destroyed a potential millions dollar worth of Indian gaming industry

[@taekwondoinc.2279]

Yeh no If they were good they wpuldve pushed through all that

[@lternatively]

@@taekwondoinc.2279 oh for sure buddy. you must know all about csgo professional leagues.

[@nlnd6490]

Hahaha

[@legitfake4786]

Valve do not support us look at Valorant they have Indian servers in CSGO we have to play with Singaporean servers. Valorant also supports eSports in India and Asia. Bruh valve is arrogant.

[@strikefreedom2846]

@@legitfake4786 valve dpes have indian servers? They even have dubai servers lol

[@wallthemart]

The 1v4 clutch final shot is probably due to spectator tick rate. Any remotely quick flick looks like that when spectating. How you tell its legit is the overtravel. After the shot u can see his crosshair followthrough the swing and swings back to centre. Its quite fluid and normal.

[@dylanbishop4175]

People also forget nearly all CSGO pros play on Stretched rez which quite literally makes the players and their hit boxes twice the size, so whilst he may not have been there on a non stretched rez monitor he most likely would be in stretched.. CSGO is skunked for Stretched rez, it literally gives you 2 free rankups

[@Mixu.]

@@dylanbishop4175 that's... not how that works. The hitboxes are always the same size, and in terms of spectators seeing what the players see, both see the crosshair be either on target or off target always in the same way. Stretched simply makes the picture on your screen... stretched. It changes nothing in the engine of the game or the server.

[@dylanbishop4175]

@@Mixu. that's quite literally how it works. If you play CS on 16:9 the players are thinner, on 4:3 the players are quite literally stretched and they're larger, if you haven't played CSGO on stretched then don't comment. And if you have, then you're obviously dumb. Especially considering there's KZbin videos about people using stretch rez for specifically that reason. It's also why stretch is less common on Valorant, because it doesn't do anything on Valo, but the CS game engine changes with different rez

[@Mixu.]

@@dylanbishop4175 most top players play stretched in Valorant Rainbow six siege and many other games for prefernce reasons-, because it zooms in the view a bit-, and because there's less things on screen to be distracted by (the sides get cut off). Go in game, aim at the edge of a character, change resolution and be amazed. Or just stay ignorant, won't change my life.

[@arty6287]

@@dylanbishop4175 No, the players are stretched on your monitor, there’s a difference between client-side and serverside. So while the players are stretched on a 4:3 res on your client, in actuality from the perspective of the server they have the same hitbox.

[@Astrohhh]

m0NESY is without a doubt one of the most naturally gifted players I've ever seen. His movement, awareness, and reaction time puts him in a different league, and I always find it funny when people accuse him of cheating. He has over 17k hours played.. more than some pros who have been playing competitively for over 10 years. The kid puts in so much work, and it's pretty cool to see him shining with a S-tier team. He's going to be the next s1mple.

[@Cr4zy4pple]

b-b-but simple was banned before on alt account and has a billion suspicious clips lol

[@Vinicantstopcrying]

​@@Cr4zy4pple Anyone can be banned in alter ACC. I once downloaded cheat to test how it looks just to test so I wouldn't accuse everyone of a cheater in my main account..... Testing cheats in alter ACC made me understand who are real cheater or just ( good player/smurf) accurately.....I deleted the account after playing 10 competitive games and it got a game ban later.

[@Cr4zy4pple]

@@Vinicantstopcrying and that's fine cus u aren't deceiving your audience. He hides cheats for a living, pathetic

[@akeeMM]

@@Vinicantstopcrying It was ESIC.

[@Satanascs]

yeah i think monesy is just good

[@cradleofgoth]

Wow, someone discussing cheating without accusing everyone possible and without using made up terms, like a breath of fresh air! Good stuff, although I'm sad you didn't include KQLY, I think if you exclude recency bias he's much better known than forsaken.

[@LE0619]

except those "terms" arent made up, ur just not smart enough to understand.

[@cradleofgoth]

@@LE0619 technically every single term is made up

[@LE0619]

@@cradleofgoth yea no ur wrong, u dont know what ur talking about

[@kamay7021]

Why would he bring up KQLY? KQLY is known for cheating already

[@cradleofgoth]

@Kamay because if you want to prove others are cheating without anticheat software, you need to look for clues in people who you know were cheating.

[@yav1d]

This was honestly a skyscraper jump up from your previous content. Good to see the improvements

[@icedstev0433]

Ear dirt

[@0luc83]

ear@@icedstev0433

[@y-qp9rw]

it's always been insane and hilarious to me how everyone in the region already knew forsaken was a cheater and his understanding of the game was leagues worse than any of the other players in the Indian competitive scene and Optic still decided to pick him up.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

as if orgs give a shit whether their players are cheating

[@mkzhero]

Nah. People just overlook it completely all the time in the pro scene, usually it's only when stuff gets too blatant too often that anyone reacts at all. Forsaken was cheating for like TWO HOURS with some very blatant moments, but they allowed him to keep playing and there was no vac detection either, so both the anti cheat and spectators missed or ignored it it entirely.

[@lolwhatever7307]

Imo the most insane thing about akuma drama was gambit destroying blantant cheaters in an unfair fight. It just shows how ridiculously good they were during the online era

[@NoHyper]

they might've switch on and off, no clue obviously but it would be impressive if they were still cheating and gambit smashed them

[@DigitalTheAlchemist]

Love the editing and Documentary-esc style of the video. Would love to see more like this

[@NoHyper]

thanks, I think I will do videos like this every so often

[@thepowerlies]

It always baffles me how Forsaken got so far without anyone noticing the lack of skill

[@thatcooldudeisawesome876]

He was still an extremely skilled player just with cheats ontop

[@AkshatSTR8EDGE]

@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 extremely skilled player? No he wasnt. His awareness and aim sucked man 💀

[@mikehunt7410]

@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 He was cheating in pugs and qualifiers. He's a bucket of feces.

[@thetrashycan]

Well edited but I think it would be more interesting to investigate cases like JW admitting to pasha that his team was cheating and a lot of the other 2012-2013 cheating/throwing cases and those where it's possible people could have cheated on LAN. Also the smoke bug where you can see someone through it is caused by a nade going off in the smoke

[@briankim7442]

wait what?? JW admitted cheating? I cant believe so... JW is still playing now a days. no one would allow a confessed cheater to keep playing

[@purplepew3247]

@@briankim7442 his team*

[@sharktheprez]

Gonna need a link or source for that JW thing. Wtf?

[@erty2389]

That didnt happen

[@Psycho345]

@@sharktheprez kzbin.info/www/bejne/imSaapZ8bt6ompo

[@JustDeeR6]

Kind of weird for a CS:GO cheater to comment on genuinely a good players skill level. If you're cheating in CS, you're terrible at the game, so it's obvious that when legit players do stuff you need hacks for, you'll think they're also cheating.

[@Tuho420]

thats not true 😂

[@JustDeeR6]

@@Tuho420 It absolutely is. If I can play completely legit at a level that you need cheats to play at, you're going to hackusate me because I'm doing what you can only do while cheating. This is mainly directed towards closet cheaters, aka "legit cheaters" - the ones who try to play it off like they're not cheating.

[@Tuho420]

@@JustDeeR6 bro... im silver without cheats and i know how it looks to play insanely good and 95% of legit cheaters are obivious but its idea is to not get overwatch banned

[@JustDeeR6]

@@Tuho420 You're.. THE LOWEST RANK without cheats and you know how it looks to play insanely good??????? No, no you do not.

[@dinix2956]

It's super easy to play with aim only without wallhacks. You'll not be spotted 98% of the time

[@futuristic-]

Cheating as a pro is so messed up

[@monliz9964]

Pov: Controller players in fortnite 😵😵😵

[@freerobuxgotomychannel7179]

@@monliz9964 pov: pc players against console

[@monliz9964]

@@freerobuxgotomychannel7179 pov: most of pro players that use controllers are using zen 😲😳

[@remuz3561]

​@@freerobuxgotomychannel7179 pov: brain damage

[@t3h51d3w1nd3r]

There was also no delay in streaming the matches to the public, so Akuma could have been using that too, plus I don’t think they recorded players in game info so it’s hard to know what everyone was doing.

[@casp3r190]

I really enjoyed this video, very nicely explained, nicely edited, a lot of information, especially for leaf mouse jump on overpass thing that you did, you explained step by step what could have been leaf's logic and why he played like this, liked this vid, hopefully we will see more, and some more info about Akuma matches, the tournament had no anti-cheat which you mentioned, but you didn't mention that the GOTV had no delay, so people would probably ghost another team, and a lot of people accused Akuma players to use a radar hack, but most likely they were ghosting due to GOTV having no delay, but still a very nice video, keep up the good work man :D

[@NoHyper]

Thanks Casp3r, didn't even realize that they didn't have a GOTV delay, knowing that it's very possible that they may have had something overlaid on their screens.

[@pitchatan]

The emilio controversy runs deep though. Around 2004-2005ish he was more or less caught out cheating at TWO small lan events, specifically asking for spots where he could sit with his back against the wall where officials couldn't spectate him freely.. In both cases he was doing extremely sketchy stuff and in both cases he was moved over to another spot where he could be spectated freely by officials... and in both cases he went from top fragging and single headedly carrying his team to plummeting in frags and being about as effective as a wet blanket. Other than that he has a loooong history of gaslighting, lying and just generally being a prick to people. And i know all of this because he was adamantly trying to get the team i was running at the time to sponsor him and his cronies (and i say cronies as at least 2 of the people he played with have been caught cheating since then)... mind you, this was around 2007-2008...with that in mind, people DO NOT change that easily... My response was that i basically told him to f*** off after doing a bit of research and finding all of this out and went ahead and sponsored another team (which he then proceeded to attack me personally for saying no to them, mind you i never elaborated on why i said no). It runs even deeper though as flusha has been playing with emilio for yeaaars even back in 1.6 and both of them has had contact with several cheat developers located in sweden (one of which moved on to work on EAC among other things)... is this proof of flusha cheating?.. no. But it's just a weird coincidence that his performance peaked during a time where custom maps injected with "simple" aimbots and RPC vectors (which took 5+ years for valve to finally rectify), as well as hardware dongle based mouse/keyboard modifications injecting a powershell payload were running rampant. Events have gotten better at stopping this since then, which is why it's FAIRLY safe to say that no one is cheating today unless it being played online... and explains how certain players have dropped off the face of the earth in terms of their in game performance.

[@antond131]

For the case of flusha just look at all the times he messed up, when you play on the biggest stage for that long ofc you gonna hit and do insane stuff

[@Cornell90]

Thanks for the laugh. Keep being ignorant

[@dabunnykilla2]

Nah, the clear case for me that he was cheating was on mirage where he shot through the wall with no indication a player was there

[@oat1000]

@@dabunnykilla2 it's a common spot, and flusha knew where he was. Not too crazy for him to take a couple pot shots to try and get a lucky kill

[@Nooraksi]

​@@dabunnykilla2 biggest indication here is that you are a silver bot!!!

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

As I always say about Flusha If he was cheating he was smart and got out early before he could get caught

[@nzdanrah]

I'm by no means a pro, but started out my online FPS life as a 10 year old putting many hours into Quake 1 / Quake World Team Fortress on Dialup. Moved on to early beta versions of counterstrike and then many hours in 1.6 & Source including online tournaments, and also putting in many hours into Battlefield 3 & 4. Even then, in my 26 years of casual gaming I would have clocked in 10 - 15 hours per week = call it 15,000 hours in my life. You completely zone out, not only does aiming become instinctual (split second flick shots quicker than you even realize it's happened) but also reading the game by combining radar and multiple sound sources, a high level of game sense. Yet this Monesy fella for example has 16,000 just in one game, and he's only 18. That amount of hours at such a young age where the brain is going through advanced cognitive development, no wonder he's owning.

[@1zachd]

I was very upset with the Leaf situation. I understand that some of the clips looked suspicious but a lot of MIBR fans were sending death threats to all of the members of Chaos. Which was obviously a horrible reaction especially considering there were only accusations, nothing was ever proven.

[@Yamatsu7]

Chaos team was so good that after rising up like crazy they all left csgo 1 year after. Clearly cheats.

[@ens8361]

@@Yamatsu7 yeah but 3/5 of the team including leaf is now in tier one valorant, NA cs was dying at the time and it was common place for many players to switch over due to the uncertainty of the online era. Hella players left, Stewie, Ethan, and Jamppi. Are they cheaters? No, you’re arguement is terrible

[@timeoutguy]

@@ens8361 Something that makes Chaos players more suspicious is the fact that a few minutes before the match, the odds for Chaos to win in bets dropped a lot, that is, a large amount of money was bet on them. In the game against Team One, there are also several clips that prove that they are cheaters

[@coolissimo69]

Chaos were cheating

[@coolissimo69]

@@timeoutguy ofc ,they were cheating. Not only with MIBR also against other Brazilian teams with more obvious locks by xeepaa and leanf especially at train map.

[@hammond9866]

Nohyper: is / was flusha cheating Nohyper : shows not even one sus flusha clip

[@cuylshepherdton7437]

Flusha was undoubtedly cheating for a period of time. Obviously he stopped after everyone kept calling him out.

[@DaddyDagoth]

100%. Most players from 2013-2016 were cheating and blatently so.

[@MrFlejon]

It's funny how back then, people laughed at you when you said he was cheating. "They're just that good". There are so many example of people using aimlock as wallhacks, because obviously you couldn't wallhack on lan because there was always someone looking at your screen. A lot of the insane flusha clips, you can definitely see a pattern: his crosshair first moves towards the enemy, he goes back to where he was looking, and then magically he kills someone through a smoke or a wall. I believe it is because he toggled for a split second to make sure an enemy is near, then toggles again to get a quick kill. Sometimes unfortunately for him, even though he toggled real quick, his opponent was close enough to magically and coincidently for his crosshair to be right on him through the wall. When you check for an angle, especially if you know someone is coming, you don't randomly move your crosshair in his direction, through a wall. It was blatant cheating. Shox did the same thing. They had the best "game sense" yet the are irrelevant now, when people like simple or Niko are still here and kicking ass, and we've never saw them do sketchy shit like this. Almost like all the sus players where actually cheating and had to stop because they got constantly accused

[@CJBeamedYou]

suprised how most youtube videos never use the blatent clips flusha has. Some of his cache clips are insane and make 0 sense

[@MrFlejon]

@@CJBeamedYou there's a video called proverwatch #2 that goes over one of the cache clips. It's in my eyes an undeniable evidence he was cheating. It's made by a German hacker and it's really well made

[@ericcotter1984]

@@DaddyDagoth evidence?

[@steveclouston7515]

The fact that Forsaken was caught cheating, and some other pro's aim acts in the exact same unhuman manner, surely gives concrete grounds for accusations? The aimlocking, bugged aiming behind walls, etc... Flusha, Shox, Byali, basically the entire Fnatic team at one point. Notice how certain teams also used to aim normally, and suddenly individual "key" players magically start following the same odd aimlocking patterns? It's so obvious.

[@NoHyper]

I dont think I’ve even seen a clip that was as lockey as forsakens was

[@revan22]

What is actually bothering me is how cheating is even possible in a tournament. Just import your CS go settings on a competition PC on which the players can't add anything like a certain program called word.exe, they can choose the mouse etc. I don't see the problem with that. That way you can be sure no one is cheating.

[@NoHyper]

Well there are DMA cheats, basically hardware cheats that are installed into a mouse or something like that. Letting them have any control would mean letting them have an avenue to cheat.

[@WilCraft624]

Looking forward for part 2. Great job keep up the good work!

[@TheMe9595]

The levelheaded approach to figuring out cheaters is really nice to see. People react so passionately and call everything they don’t understand cheating but in a lot of cases, with the proper context, things aren’t suspicious at all. There is definitely a cheating problem in a lot of these games but screaming cheater at every clip isn’t going to fix that issue.

[@Cornell90]

Thanks for the laugh monkey.

[@NotoriousBBB]

I do wonder how thorough the hardware checks can be. In the world of normal sports steroids and PEDs are commonly checked for but the tests are easily bypassed .

[@AARININ]

Very nice video mr nohyper. I will honestly wait for part 2 because I didn't know about some of the pro players scandals that you told about in this vid.

[@NoHyper]

thank you aarinin, part 2 will come out at some point. might make it a series

[@jxy_vbn8156]

I’m honestly about 90% sure that most people know flusha isn’t actually a cheater and just keep calling him a cheater as part of a running joke. The guy played a major under the name “señor VAC” for gods sake.

[@Vulcan1k]

I have never liked cheating in games and I dislike the people that do but I respect you for your entertaining videos and how you teach people about the cheats and provide good insight into how they work. I would love to see more of these videos

[@chronickush420]

Biggest npc comment

[@gusfalk]

@@chronickush420 ye

[@doktormozg]

@@chronickush420 sit

[@chronickush420]

@@doktormozg this keyboard playing cheating crackhead tryna tell me what to do😂

[@chronickush420]

@@doktormozg lay down the pipe bro😂🤣

[@no_alias_for_me]

The "tracking players in smokes" - thing is a quite common occurrence I have to say. It happened to me and my team. In 99% of the cases it's due to the smoke bug.

[@zenchanted5110]

very well made video man, i really like this editing style so keep it up. i would like a series about this cus this is a definetly interesting category of cs:go

[@NoHyper]

Thanks Zenchanted, appreciate that

[@JavaGenbuAIM]

Nice video. It’s sad to think how difficult it is to detect a cheater nowadays. I remember being disqualified from an important tournament years ago by a team that was banned months later for using cheats. It’s very unfair how people like this can ruin tournaments and even careers.

[@alexanderibakke5659]

The m0nesy clip doesnt come from "backtracking" its simply the ping diff from the server to the spectator or tick output diff which is usually 128-64 on official tournaments. Additionally the bullet in cs doesnt necessearily land where the crosshair is when flicking very fast, but instead where the crosshair "wouldve" ended up as the unscoping of the awp happens a few ticks earlier than the shot. this can be seen in a lot of awp clips from pros or fast casual awpers alike. anyway great video!

[@TheSuperappelflap]

1. the unscoping doesnt happen before the shot, it happens on the same tick as the shot. the bullet then has an animation of a couple frames but this is irrelevant to when or where the shot hits. if there is any delay in the awp unscoping and when the shot actually hits this is just ping and nothing else. unless you are playing with multithreaded rendering on, which will render interpolated frames in which your input isnt processed. this setting is useless, it only adds input lag, makes your input lag more variable, and increases your pc's power consumption by rendering interpolated frames that dont do anything. no one should play with this setting on, no matter how bad your pc is. 2. the bullet isnt fired at where the crosshair would have ended up, it in fact fires at the spot where your crosshair was at the START of the current game tick. where you move your crosshair during the tick is irrelevant. the position is only updated at the start of the next game tick. this is how source engine works. this is also one of the main reasons why csgo, and source engine games in general, have bad hitreg and feel delayed. other shooters such as reflex, quake, unreal, or anything based on quake or unreal engines, dont have this problem, they actually keep track of how far you move your crosshair during a tick before you press M1.

[@zwenkwiel816]

yeah the whole play looked legit, some lucky shots for sure but definitely legit.

[@LagartoChicloso]

Spectator mode makes everyone look like they are using backtracking tbh

[@NoHyper]

If it’s a live demo I don’t think it would. It’s being played back at 128 tick.

[@LagartoChicloso]

@@NoHyper i dont know becouse i downloaded my demos from gamers club (faceit for south America) and i looked at a 4 kills all headshot flicks that i did and literally every shot was me shooting at the air killing someone that i am not looking and then the camera moves to the guy. And gamers club is 128 ticks and works really well

[@vvsKap]

editing is great in this video, i’d love to see more content like this, keep up the great work man!

[@NoHyper]

thanks qubicall

[@wagwan6935]

I have a lot of hours in fps, and everyone does things that look like they are cheating occasionally at a high level. It’s consistency or blatant signs that really prove it.

[@YehNahYehAyy]

As a former LoL cheat platform/script developer I also find it so easy to recognize cheats in league of legends, I have never really got into CSGO or it's pro scene but I do enjoy the perspective you give.

[@cambuurleeuwarden]

Former? What made you stop? Also what kind of income did that generate?

[@YehNahYehAyy]

​@@cambuurleeuwarden I stopped because I lost interest when riot was really clamping down with their anti-cheat (They seem to not care again and scripting is growing once again) I don't remember exactly how much I would make but it was around 1.5 to 2k a week on average a few seasons back.

[@cambuurleeuwarden]

@@YehNahYehAyy Thanks for replying mate. But I've got to say, with that kinda money i'd be pulling scripts out of my ass left and right if I knew how to do it.

[@trashaccount5106]

​@@cambuurleeuwardenI assume you'd have to register a business to legally make all this money, but then it'd be illegal because your business is profiting off of someone else's product and actively losing them players.

[@astuzacs9798]

it's crazy how most of pro players suck at cheating, like not enabling Aimbot Wall-Check, Chams only when player pops up, etc...

[@anu1776]

monesy is honestly just to good, we've all been there, when you're in flowstate mode and absolutely wrecking people, i think that thats what happened in that clip, i also think he flicks so insanely fast, you dont always see it as a spectator

[@christianb7125]

Yeah that guy is legit I’ve been watching him for a while and he is just naturally nasty

[@WindowsMaker02]

Right now in CS2 I think he's in his prime.

[@siqsteen]

nobody ever cheats, tens of thousands of hours can give you the ability to lock on through walls.

[@Skillertvv_]

For the monesy clip you we're suspicious about: if you flick hard enough with the AWP it looks like you shot where the enemy is not anymore at, where in reality, you did shoot at the target.

[@Skillertvv_]

Awesome video tho. don't take this as hate :)

[@NoHyper]

The frame after the shot wasn’t on his either. Obviously there are a ton of different factors, online I think it the easiest to debunk the clip.

[@aksHandler]

Forsaken just broke my heart man. I've been a big fan of competitive LAN events in CS ever since I started playing Counter Strike. My country had one opportunity on international level, even if we lost we would be proud that we were there for at-least once match if not the finals. Even if we didn't qualify it would be great moment for the country's team. But this guy just had to ruin it all.

[@athena.bismuth980]

Super interesting perspective we don't get to hear from often. Thanks for sharing your insights!

[@Melv1ns]

If you begin to play CS when you are like 7 and put the work in. It's a very big chance you're gonna be a top tier player when you're 16. In almost all of sports the best players often began before they were under 5.

[@ADHDmeds]

really good video did not expect such a high quality video from you definitely make a part 2 would watch it 100%

[@NoHyper]

Thank you narcian

[@ZumbieRUST]

@@NoHyper [he is implying your videos arent high quality] (144p gang)

[@Deadmeatsz]

I believe the corruption runs very deep and that the whole cs go pro scene is a joke. i have seen both flusha and m0nesy track and flick to moving targets behind smoke/walls in unortodox/unpredictable positions and still hit more than a few times now for example. Also infolocks through walls seems to be very common amongst many pros.

[@Photek24]

theres only one pro ive ever suspected and it was flusha. his clip on cache where he just randomly flicks through the wall onto a player from the ct entrance of tree room through b main is something i cant explain. im sad you didnt go over that and similar clips from flusha during that one event.

[@Throwables]

competitive matches should never be play online, especially when its for money

[@Megu02]

This video is very well made! Very enjoyable to watch!

[@NoHyper]

thank you Megu

[@kipchickensout]

i don't think the backtrack looking thing has much to do with the ping, but more with the crosshair being so out of sync with what the actual player sees. I've seen hundreds of shots that weren't on the enemy in demos because they were just flicked edit: the only time i really think of backtrack sometimes is when i go behind a wall and die by getting teleported outside again, which happens quite frequently, that's an example of the ping

[@ax3]

so proud of you brother

[@SwankiestFaun60]

SHUT UP

[@NoHyper]

ty man

[@amariel3310]

All these pros, and not a single one of them can hit head as fast or as precise as my silver opponents in unrated!

[@souls4781]

Very good video my man! I watched through it all😊 I can’t wait to see how much the future will bring to this channel :D subscribed :)

[@HerzogMiku]

At the Akuma vs 1Win Match the first clip is easily explainable since the bomb sends out waves on the radar when dropped and seen by a CT. As soon as someone picks up the Bomb the waves disappear leading him in knowing when they pick up the bomb and the position of one person.

[@NoHyper]

Yes but it doesn't show those waves for that long.

[@HerzogMiku]

@@NoHyper It does. You can see the bomb on the radar for 8 seconds and he killed the bomb carrier at 1:08 and looks at the radar last time at 1:01 so he could still see the waves clearly :)

[@SnowsRevenge]

Great Video NoHyper Keep Up the work king!

[@NoHyper]

thanks snows

[@uatmovius]

😂

[@burgerland5754]

When several pros get caught cheating, it's safe to say, anyone who is potentially better than you, is a cheater. Which makes playing the game, pointless.

[@alreadydeadxx2120]

Sadly I don’t believe there is a way to test true skill in gaming anymore. Unless there was a LAN league that pre bought hardware for all contestants before hand, but that will never happen.

[@Allegiancy]

A professional player on a professional team but somehow something still convinces that person to cheat. Some of these pro players are ridiculous..

[@NoHyper]

It's not me saying that they're cheating, except for some of them

[@Allegiancy]

@@NoHyper No no I know what you’re saying. I’m just saying it’s so wild that they’ll get this far in the comp scene but still convince themselves they need to cheat lol

[@mnss8247]

would like a 2nd part, also great video!

[@NoHyper]

yeah I'm probably going to make one, it just takes so long to make videos like this

[@coooolibri]

okay, im trying to make it short, and hopefully people dont misunderstand. im a very dedicated player in cs since around 2004. started with pub and clan wars in 1.6, but in csgo i never went the team route. tried to make friends along the way, who understand the emphasis of my calling style. in general you can say that many highlights you see in the tournaments, ofc not on this lvl, but every player who plays for a decade or a little less had these kinda shots before. the classic "hiko, are you kidding me" 180 is something ive done probably 3-4 times in my whole cs life. now im at around 8600 hours, and when i watch old fragmovies from 1.6 now i can understand the full aspect of what these guys did back then. im really happy we have people like monesy, im always crossing my fingers watching his games. it gives a new hope, and fresh wind into the scene, despite the stale mappool we have for a long time now. rotating the maps is something i wish for for years. the thing is this is all built on trust, and we have to keep it. we have to hope for the competitive spirit these players have, cause there are ways to cheat in 2022 from home, where you cant even detect it. so its really almost all up to the players themselves.

[@ShaunaJagan]

A part 2 of Chaos' cheating stuff would be more than welcome There's a clip where someone from Chaos tries to wallbang a mibr player throught that "wooden thing" on B site, but the angle he tried isn't "wallbangable"

[@NoHyper]

B site on which map? Plus in a high intensity situation, are brains can just do things we normally wouldn’t. I’d have to see the clip to give my opinion

[@ShaunaJagan]

@@NoHyper On Overpass. The only place I could find the clip is in this Brazilian Edit inspired by SuperstituM kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioesZHeDjN1okNE (already with timestemp in the link) Also, there's a guy trying to replicate the wallbang after, he's a Brazilian Caster who find it sus while casting and went in game to checks it

[@NoHyper]

@@ShaunaJagan It is weird but you also have to consider that he was just trying to shoot someone into the cubby and the guy in front of his crosshair and just there by chance.

[@ShaunaJagan]

@@NoHyper ye that what I thought, well.. These guy are in Valorant now, right? For me its proves that they didn't cheat, but a video of the topic (or a part 2 of this one) would be welcome for sure :DD

[@bruno7912]

@@ShaunaJagan Go to 02:00 of the video you send and tell me again this guys ain't cheating lol

[@matejpotrusil1464]

Not mentioning glaive and the entire Astralis meta is kinda insane

[@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262]

Of course, every CS had cheaters and once an entry moves out of the spotlight people start admitting it.

[@rav2561]

back during flusha era almost all the teams had at least 1 cheater, none of them have been banned. valve knew it but swept it under the rug to save the integrity of their money milking machine

[@downnnnnn]

Proof?

[@TiredCJ]

This is interesting to watch, i know your a cheater but damn this is one hell of a Documentary style type of video. would like to see more and see your opinions on pros. (Story for short) i dont wanna be a guy that hates cheaters when i used to become a cheater once, only to be curious about tho since i did become one of the best OFW and CFW modding in the PS3 modding community, all i ever did is to enjoy the fun stuff and play games seriously then mod for experience or just being nosey if that makes sense, ever since i switched from console to PC was a new learning path for me, tho back then when i used to dislike modding alot more than it should've been. i find out about CSGO cheats and HvH's n stuff like that, tho i wasn't that interested but i also could learn a thing too, so i did what i did and cheat on it, honestly changed my mind a little bit more. tho its boring to cheat nowadays and cheating / modding. i kinda wanna bring entertainment at its finest. I'll always be a cheater but i generally dont wanna touch them anymore and become a pro player or just an entertainer for streaming or videos itself. also again, this video do change my views on other ppl but i quite enjoy this style Documentary.

[@Smp88]

yeah..... it's actually quite obvious with 23+ years of experience..... to see who cheats and who does not.

[@philipp594]

There has been a ton of cheating on a pro level. BYOC has always been problematic (there was even a hardware cheat soldered to a ddr2 memory module in the CS Source days). Then when they went to provided pcs we had the workshop cheats, the rubber ducky USB exploits (in mice and keyboards). Tons of amphetamine (adderall) use. Now we have coaching bug / other exploits and match fixing. The community is just toxic and it goes all the way to the top. We should have a zero tolerance policy for cheating but instead you find f**king cheaters in ever 3rd-5th match.

[@Stinkman]

I often look at my radar to lineup myself with spots behind walls on maps or prefire angles that I'm not familiar with. It would be weird to look at the radar at that level of playing but It's not farfetched that that's what he was doing. If there's tons of clips of him doing that, I would find it more believable that he's clean.

[@NoHyper]

Yeah it could be for preaiming but the level of play makes me feel like it’s not. Plus he’s looking at this radar as he’s swinging angles

[@rr3zus]

chaos were 100% cheating

[@9RepeatingMonkeys]

The monesy clip can happen for so many reasons, tick rate, refresh rate, bad demo, etc it’s so unlikely to be the backtrack

[@BunnehRealm]

Explaining backtrack while being completely unaware of spectator tick rate is wild

[@NoHyper]

Pro games are recorded in 128 tick regardless of being a spectator.

[@twilightenvoy]

“My opinion on them, as a CSGO cheater” I was like “wait what” 😂

[@ggpl8117]

Flusha was confirmed to be a cheater half a decade ago by multiple cheat devs and simply the fact he has the most clearly cheating clips

[@Lukkaa35]

those clips where someone aims at someone thru a wall are usually all just accidents, most cheaters would hide their cheats as much as they can and no aimbot will do that

[@Lucas-jf5zu]

American's trying to say Rönnquist is fucking hilarious

[@dugdaldog4574]

It's actually very possible hitting flicks like monesy. Some people say he's hacking but i look at live matches in tournaments and he doesn't hit the shots always. He dies sometimes he doesn't.

[@Karjalol]

The monesy clip on inferno against mibr is pure raw skill, everything he does is fucking perfect and optimal. Timing, aim, movement, balls only a guy that spent countless hours on the game could play like that. It's such a display of how a master monesy is at a game that I cant believe he cheats, it does not make sense

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

no one is perfect you dingus , no one. forsaken who got banned also had +8kh. your argument is wrong. try again normie

[@ttt69420]

Cheats used to be what you would only do for griefing without even hiding it. Now there's a whole legion of kids who hide it for meaningless rank in a meaningless video game. It's really strange and pathetic. Most cheaters have such bad movement and positioning that it's obvious they're playing above their skill level. When you have 15-20,000 hours played in a game, the advantage gained from cheating is marginal at best and not worth the risk.

[@laughing5752]

I don’t specifically agree with the minimap 1v3 because it’s possible he was using the minimap to help confirm his pre aim

[@jellyischaotic6275]

Forsaken never cheated he was using WordPad to write down what worked and didn't and how to beat the other team he had no cheats he was legit

[@cuylshepherdton7437]

S1mple was banned for cheating by ESL in 2013. So consider that shit.

[@NoHyper]

I didn’t even talk about s1mple in the video

[@MechMK1]

The thing about the reasoning "X must be legit, because we can't comprehend how good he is" is that it is used by so many notorious and proven cheaters. People said that about Armstrong for years, before he was forced to admit he was doping. People defended Todd Rogers, saying that he's just that great and the reason I think he is lying about his records is that I am just not galaxy-brained enough to understand his genius. The reason for this is quite simple. These people do that to elevate themselves. "I see the genius in his play. I see the inhumane skill, whereas those below me only see cheating accusations". Well, until it turns out that they are in fact cheating.

[@skmakedonija3966]

youre telling me these guys lost in a c-tier tournament: European Championship 2022 to a team named bluejays and they wrecked navi? obv cheating

[@duongpham5868]

m0NESY's 1v4 last kill isn't something suspicious, the clip you see being broadcasted from GOTV, and GOTV can't capture insanely fast mouse movements.

[@MrCircus177]

The "evidence" against Akuma is actually laughable.

[@mtgfanmtg9739]

“Everybody is on steroids” - Nate Diaz

[@RYLOFRMDAYGO]

just know getting called a cheater from a cheater is crazy if u get called a cheater by a cheater you've won life

[@xavierromeo7781]

I heard that, after a long period of time, VAC bans are hidden from the public profile, but are still active, and prevent to play on VAC-secured servers.

[@jamesadams1060]

For the leaf clip, wasn’t it proven, that the information on fers position isn’t even loaded for a player on balcony? So not even a cheat could have known there was a player there. Just something I heard back in the day

[@JoseHLPolo]

Fr i just think that flusha was not cheating and it was just "outplaying" all the scenario, but players like leaf and subroza were cheting in front of us and nobody was caring about, just think that this guys deserve punishment for what they did with us as spectators, and that csgo pro scene should be ashamed for this, instead of protecting them.

[@volundrfrey896]

I'm not saying that eg monsey is cheating however as Karl Jobst has proven many times the fact that someone is good and dedicated at the game is not evidence that they're not cheating.

[@kievitz]

No anticheat for a tournament, played in a game where cheating is rampant, a fkn 1000 IQ move there, trust us bros, nothing here bros, all good bros.

[@sO_RoNerY]

Flicking your mouse quick doesn’t mean you’ll kill someone.

[@5000Seabass]

The best part is people with no experience as a tier 1 player making absolutely hilarious accusations because they’ve used cheats before so they “know” the difference between actual experience and hacks.

[@NoHyper]

You definitely didn't watch the video lmao

[@billyb9358]

Watching this 1 year late but refreshing to see an objective take from different angles on this stuff by a cheater who actually knows how the game works / is played. I quit CS forever ago but clearly remember the stuff you talked about in the video. COD is currently absolutely infested by youtubers trying to make money off overdosing people with confirmation bias and clickbaiting bad players / actual cheaters with big egos (lol) into believing everyone in the game is cheating, which likely just makes the number of cheaters grow. COD specifically WZ could use someone like you as a contrast to all the "hacker hunters" who spew misinformation and have no clue how the game even works but idk at this point we're probably too deep in the hole.

[@michaelfreemanbaseball7672]

In Monesy’s case the awp can kill even if the crosshairs is off particularly when at close range and scoped in, and as you stated it’s only been the one play that was questionable.

[@NoHyper]

It’ll only do that when you’re in motion, he wasn’t.

[@CKr14]

Pretty sure it was just slight lag on the Spectator side

[@300spartan2222]

Looking at radar when you are alone can help you .. if the enemy is behind you or somehow you missed a peek of him it will show on radar :D

[@NoHyper]

It won't show the enemy if he's behind you, and yes if you see an enemy it will show on the radar but he was looking at a wall and looking at his radar.

[@300spartan2222]

@@NoHyper it shows for a while after you spotted someone ^^ I am not defending him personally I use the radar often on lvl 8-9 faceit and it saved my ass few times not much but enough to take a look sometimes :D

[@StevenBTW]

8:30 You can CLEARLY see that he killed the Bomb Carrier and then the Bomb Gets dropped. Now what people may not know is when the Bomb has been spotted, if the bomb gets picked up, you can see it. That was what he was tracking for while also slowly moving to a different position

[@NoHyper]

It only lasts for a short period of time, the first one maybe could've been that, but the second and third looks were way too late

[@StevenBTW]

@@NoHyper You're right about that one.

[@CazDesignStudios]

Optic India could have been an insane team with time but cause of one guy they'll never reach their heights.