NOISELESS FOOTAGE - CINE EI explained EASY

[@carlesmba]

Finally someone who is not bullshitting for 20 minutes before going to the point. Thanks a lot.

[@gkochanowsky]

I greatly appreciate your attention to detail as well as a crystal clear but brief style. Thank you and well done.

[@maxsautner]

thank you man!

[@jenwag1212]

This is hands down the most clear explanation for CineEI available!

[@VizwayMedia]

damn, you explained it great in the first video and made it 10x better with this one! THANK YOU!

[@maurygpk]

Recently got a Sony FX3 and was looking for help with cine ei. This video was so simple and informative, thank you!

[@vividmotion66]

How do you correct the over exposed image in post in DR? Do you mainly use the offset to correct it or is there more to do?

[@MrVh78]

Easily my top 3 channels for the Sony camera's, great stuff man, keep making!

[@maxsautner]

Thanks, will do!

[@shingobeats343]

Very informative Videos man. Love this. Thank you

[@ThatguyDenz7]

Hey Max, great video! I recently came across your channel and enjoy your style of filming and explaining things. Also appreciate the effort in adding solid visual examples to illustrate what you're talking about throughout the whole thing. Keep up the awesome content!

[@maxsautner]

Thanks buddy! I’ll try to upload more now! I prepared all the graphics and templates, which I developed to create my vids, my KZbin cam setup is all in one stand now. All setup to make better and faster workflow. KZbin is a hell of a work 😅

[@t0mwhazzup]

Hey Max, this video is visually very nice, as always. One question, there's a caption in your video that says that DaVinci recognizes CineEI automatically and corrects exposure accordingly. Can you tell me how this works? When I use a CST node for EI200 footage to get standard footage (Rec.709), I get it two stops overexposed. Or is the workflow different than CST? Thanks in advance! Tom

[@Samuelkonetsky]

The detail is the darks areas are immaculate please do a colour correction video 🙏

[@maxsautner]

I will! thank you!

[@fossmountainfilm]

Your videos are detailed but not too long. I just bought an FX3 and unfortunetaly I noticed CMOS smearing in low light shots. I use 800 and 12800 ISO to avoid this CMOS smearing but several other ISO values show the issue. In low lit situations do you get CMOS smearing image issues wth the FX6? And yes, often times we can add light to the shot.... but sometimes we can't add light to the scene.

[@maxsautner]

Hi, that's interesting! never heard about this! (A dumb question... Do you use the right shutter speed?) Make sure to check the camera also, before your guaranty is over! maybe its a hardware issue? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@fossmountainfilm]

@@maxsautner Thanks for the reply! Here is a video that CVP made which mentions CMOS smearing. It happens when underexposing and is not a function of the wrong shutter speed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKW3dXyujdyppas

[@hediver1]

Hello Max, great video, thanks :). Please help me understand, why did you set your Zebra 2 to 77% for 'white' when Sony recommends 61% for SLog3?

[@maxsautner]

Hi, correct! I'm previewing AND measuring the s709 MLUT (Monitor preview LUT). The 90% white card on my colorchecker card should be around 77% in s709. If the MLUT is switched off, the FX6 measures the slog3 which must be around 61%.

[@hediver1]

Am I correct then, that the jump from Sony's recommended 61% to 77% correlates to overexposing by ~2+ ? How did you arrive at 77%, meaning that 77% Zebra on 90% bright reflective white is 2 stops over? @@maxsautner

[@maxsautner]

@@hediver1 read this article! sonycine.com/articles/how-correctly-expose-s-log3---a7s-iii---fx3---fx6---fx9/

[@hediver1]

Thanks👍, so 77% with MLut and 61% without MLut @@maxsautner

[@daltonrandall4348]

Do those yellow lines just automatically show up when in waveform mode, or did you have to enable them and/or define what values they need to be? If so, how did you do that? What values should be mapped to what lines? You're leaving out quite a bit...

[@xavierfiems3787]

Hi Thanks for your support! I have a question: I've been told that Slog3 lut was the best way to shoot. Why do you then use rec709 lut? And why, when I'm using Slog3, I cannot see any difference on my fx3 monitor when I turn Lut on and Off?

[@JSHFilms]

Max! Thank you for this explanation! This definitely helps! I've recently shot a short film in Cine EL and had this same issue in my shadows.

[@maxsautner]

Sure! always welcome!

[@Zarocthepenguin]

Do you correct with your exposure with the grey card and white card before or after increasing exposure by two stops? Also is there any way to preview the Rec709 LUT on the FX6 without recoding it baked in without using a second monitor? Cheers in advance!

[@olotilaproductions]

Thanks for the great tutorial! What are your LUT settings. Is Mlut enabled for stream, hdmi or internal rec?

[@kylelikesducks]

Is it the same for images where we want to protect/pull pack the highlights? So brighter scenes you shoot above the Native/Base ISO and then adjust Aperture and lighting to bring it back to exposed in monitor. Then edit get an under exposed image and brighten it up? Thanks so much for your videos so informative and clear!

[@mattm7426]

Always stick to native iso unless youre clipping

[@TheRangrez]

Thanks for the info Max! I am having a weird issue with my FX6, I'm using CINE EI, SLOG3, but if I change the exposure, nothing happens. The brightness remains the same even if I switch to 3200 EI, 6400 EI, or basically any EI value (this happens for both Base Values 800 and 12800). Also, even if I apply the Lut 709 to see what I am shooting, I still see the washed out image from SLOG3. Could you please help me with this? Thanks!!

[@roy11aalfaro]

The problem that I have with this is that then it is only useful on scenarios when you have control of your lights and can adjust them to overexpose. If I am on the street at night filming and my f is wide open and I am using the HBase ISO, then this is useless because I don't have any way to overexpose my image.

[@NewsOneLive]

I wish you would show which LUT you are applying. Does most of this info apple to the SOny FS7Mark 11 ?

[@maxsautner]

I'll probably release some lots in the future, to help you guys with the workflow!

[@OmarMartinezViz]

Hey Max, excelente video! One question, do you use this zebra setting always ?

[@maxsautner]

Hi Omar, on my A7Siii, yes, on my FX6 mainly waveforms but also zebras to check sometimes.

[@sertocd]

If you are outdoors you can't use cine ei because you don't have control over the light. What you did is possible in a studio environment. The other option is the adjustment aperture of course that would unfortunately tamper with your artistic choice and change the DOF. Best option is to set your gain to 180 degree shutter angle and set the camera to auto ND. Done.

[@allika1992]

VND

[@S2keyz]

Can we overexpose with vnd ?

[@sertocd]

@@allika1992 VND does not mean auto ND. For example Sony FS7M2 has auto ND but the mark I does not. Mark 1 has VND Mark 2 has auto VND.

[@sertocd]

@@S2keyz Sure. Just never use it and you'll be fine. Overexposures are guaranteed.

[@allika1992]

@@sertocd In certain conditions of light you can use VND filters to get desired exposure. To get more data in the shadows (for example, outdoors in a sunny day with bright and dark places in the same scene) you can overexpose and then compensate with -1EV CineEI value, mantaining 180 degree shutter angle, base ISO and desired lens aperture. VND filters are a good way to get desired exposure in uncertain light conditions.

[@saviourudo1062]

Great video🙌🏾

[@maxsautner]

Thanks 💯

[@RenaldoEsquina]

Is 200EI always the way to go if you want to overexpose 2 stops?

[@maxsautner]

Si 👍

[@robinprobyn1971]

Halving or doubling the EI is equal to 1 stop. If you wanted to over expose 2 stops in the high EI of 12,800 you would set 3,200 EI.

[@deanyau]

do u recommend to stay at 800 iso with nd filter ?

[@maxsautner]

🤷🏻‍♂️ depends on the scene. There is no right answer to that except u mean "instead using lower ISO"..

[@theseventh2609]

Thanks man !

[@maxsautner]

Happy to help

[@Samuelkonetsky]

That man that’s cleared things up for me it’s a confusing work flow

[@maxsautner]

got u brother! 🫡

[@rafapelikula7482]

Awesome! May I ask what you pull down on DaVinci? Is it Gamma? To bring down back on post. Thank you

[@maxsautner]

Yes! but I also use lift gamma gain and play around...

[@rafapelikula7482]

@@maxsautner Thank you!

[@iyason6878]

This apply only if u never use noise reduction in resolve 😂😂😂😂

[@maxsautner]

hahaha true story! 😂 But sometimes, its not that easy, if u film particles, stars, snow etc.