Non-Gamer Hears Video Game Music for THE FIRST TIME | Pt 2

[@MarcoMeatball]

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[@Strato5]

Idk if you are into mashup songs, but there is a mashup called "we are number one winged angel. Which is a mashup of One winged angel with We are number one. It is peak internet 👌

[@Zihark94]

pretty cool to have a sponsorship that's not some low quality mobile game

[@ero-senninsama1734]

Giorgio Moroder is in this???!! The music legend and the man of the meme of "My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everyone calls me... Giorgio"???!!

[@ero-senninsama1734]

Giorgio Moroder is in this???!! The music legend and the man of the meme of "My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everyone calls me... Giorgio"???!!

[@ero-senninsama1734]

Giorgio Moroder is in this???!! The music legend and the man of the meme of "My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everyone calls me... Giorgio"???!!

[@blackdragonking81]

There's 1 thing I want to correct Kathy on. It's NEVER to late to start playing games. Games are a whole world and whether you want to take a walk in a park or climb a mountain there's stories and wonder everywhere and a place for everyone. All you have to do is choose to explore.

[@zetsumeinaito]

I like to think there's a game for everyone these days. Even if it's just UNO or Rummy.

[@SamuelPulkkinen-jp8ev]

It always helps if there's someone experienced who can somewhat gauge your capability and taste for you. Like I cannot make my mom play many 3d games, because she cannot move the camera AND the character simultaneously, so I have to give her a pretty low-stakes/stress 3d game to play.

[@bawlzyreviews465]

Kathy is a badass and I feel like talking music with her would be an absolute joy. Glad you highlighted MHR Sunbreak. That expansion and album felt so different from the rest of the series. So spooky and mysterious, and they pulled it off wonderfully.

[@BaneWilliams]

The sheer emotion you displayed when Baba Yetu was played is excellent, and part of why I watch you. I know that you experience the emotionality behind some of the music and have that same passion that I share for music, it's a shared experience and it's wonderful. Much love from Australia

[@MarcoMeatball]

cheers!

[@sirCharon]

I truly love and appreciate Marco for how much he really feels the music and like you said the emotion behind it!

[@Relyx]

It's funny, whenever I hear Baba Yetu (and it's been dozens of times) I think to myself, wonder if it will make me cry this time, and lo and behold it does every single time haha

[@SinApex]

Always love Kathy's glasses. 10000% agree with her take on people connecting beyond just LISTENING to it. Game music can have a much stronger emotional impact on someone who was there, experiencing a moment, at just the right moment for them, while that music played. The music is tied to their experiences hearing it and the context under which it was presented. Much like movie scores. People will rarely be able to hear Morricone's movie scores without thinking of the movies the songs were in.

[@sodathejunker]

I love these conversations so much, it's great that you were able to bring Kathy Kelly back! First off, omg sharing Scars of Time with her broke my heart. I adore that song so much, it's one of my favorite video game songs and yet also the first one I learned on woodwind and keys back when I was a Concert player. Such a pleasure to see how much she enjoyed that. Secondly, it's fascinating to me how much her take on musicians of both disciplines learning from and adapting to each other reminds me of another conversation regarding voicework and acting. The late great Kevin Conroy often spoke about how, before taking the voice role of Batman, he was actively a classical stage actor but struggling at a point to find greater opportunities because that world was so barricaded into itself. His taking to voicework and enjoying it so much opened the door for many other actors to try it out and appreciate the new medium, but his Shakespearean knowledge and experience elevated his voice acting significantly as well. My honest hope, as someone who has lived in both video game and concert music and happily transitioned to scoring for animation now, is to see more and more musicians and music producers share in dialogues like this. The classically trained coming to compose for modern media, the new generation of composers sharing their hand into classic formats and orchestras… Everyone will not only benefit from the healthy exchange of ideas and sounds but also fans and supporters of all camps will cross-pollinate and it will keep music in all forms genres and vibrations healthy and respected into the future. I've said it before Marco, but what you're doing with this channel is so special and I'm excited for how this channel and your own path will continue to blossom.

[@Kobupon_46]

The advent children version of One Winged Angel appears in Smash Bros Ultimate too and ALWAYS transform the battles into something very epic.

[@wazkangz955]

32:32 Her analysis was great. Ezio’s Family is definitely one of these masterpieces where you cry out of sheer beauty.

[@bdk336]

A really important aspect of Undertale's impact in context: it's not just informed by the story, it's also the extensive use of leitmotif throughout the game and the fact that Undertale is effectively a medley of music from throughout the entire game.

[@volmie]

2:15 (ish) - If we're talking about that strumming, that was probably a Saz. There's also a Byzantine Lyre, and multiple other instruments. The band is called Percival Schuttenbach, a Polish folk metal band that CDPR consistently contracts for Witcher's music. On that note, there's also another band that did music for Witcher 2 called Żywiołak, maybe next time you could show Kathy some music from that game :D Also my Polish wife says that both bands are very nice people and she says she's sure if you reached out to them (they speak English) that they'd be more than happy to have a chat with you about the instruments they use

[@celestialcolosseum]

Bit of a nitpick here but it's actually called "bağlama", most people call it saz but that's not the actual name of the instrument, saz just means "instrument" in Turkish. Bağlama is the actual name of the instrument, and Percival kinda modified it to fit their sound which i like. It sounds much heavier and crude with those thick strings on it, although retaining the similar sound characteristic.

[@volmie]

@@celestialcolosseum Makes sense, I was transcribing what my wife was translating from Polish to English, so I was just writing the closest things we found.

[@Vaslof]

Thanks Kathy you are a great interviewee.

[@araragisenpai4088]

Kathleen's takes are always super interesting, open-minded and so, so fun to listen to! I'm very glad you were able to do another video with her Marco, thank you very much! I'm so happy about how accurate her thoughts about Ezio's Family was, the heaviness and history beats is spot on.

[@connorryan2715]

Kathy’s a joy to have, and really insightful too honestly. I really like hearing her takes and perspectives on all this.

[@AegisKHAOS]

Happy to see Kathy back. She was fun to watch the first time. She is fun to watch the second time. 😁 And her reaction to Aria de Mezzo Carrattere was the best. 😆

[@treyatkinson7564]

Love seeing these videos. I've loved the Zelda series since i was a kid, and it's always made me feel so alive whenever i hear one of the series mainstays leitmotifs.

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

Love Kathy's looks during Draco & Maria, no words needed.

[@tomatophalanges]

Baba Yetu is so deeply stirring and I loved seeing that you both almost seemed to have that same lump in your throat talking about it afterwards because really just, wow, yeah, me too As someone who studied to become an operatic singer, finished my degree and then never took the 'final' step of actually *entering* the opera scene, auditioning, etc, its deeply refreshing to see others in this particular (occasionally especially closed-minded) niche of the classical world having such an appreciation of this music! I fully agree with what Kathy said about the power and value of opening our doors, so to speak; thinking with a little less focus on exclusive, pure preservation of tradition, and with more value in transformation and seeing what beauty can come from the sharing of different communities and cultures to create something new

[@UNDY91]

Just discovered you and I've now watched all of your "Non-Gamer Hears" series. What an awesome idea! I love that professionals pick up on the same features I do and I'm not technical at all just goes to show it works on so many levels. Especially the Tears Of The Kingdom reaction!

[@stavi82]

Instant chills during the opera scene. That was so great as a kid.

[@parkermaisterra8532]

Was not expecting to see a Chrono Cross song of all things. That put a smile on my face

[@DrElyG]

Im so happy Deep Space Lullaby gets some more love. Such a special piece of music.

[@nitrocide1746]

The intimacy that most people have with video games is interesting. Not only are you the listener, and the viewer, but because of your involvement, you are an actor being fed emotional cues as you experience the story.

[@ferd9191]

Super interesting take, stumbled upon this randomly but watched the full vid! Reminds me of main theme song to the game "Freedom Fighters" which was incredible and sounds right up your alley. All the music was great from that game.

[@unlimited971]

That game was great

[@arcsoulphantom2678]

Was great to see Kathy back again and seeing her reaction to those switch ups to Awaken was a sight to behold. The song really does encapsulates the insanity and bueaty of Specter. Marco trying to summarize them as fish made me bust a gut laughing even though he’s technically not wrong. Abysal hunters have everything, great singing voices and kick major butt

[@SlushieDee]

Great to see Kathleen back on here again, her enthusiasm is infectious. Love how open-minded she is and how insightful her commentary is. Also very glad to see the love for the Torna battle theme, heh.

[@voavic]

If you ever have Kathleen back for a part 3 I would love to hear her take on "Kainé Salvation" I love your videos as they offer great insight from the mind of someone who understands why the track plays out as it dose, looking forward to the next video.

[@perspektywazmian3162]

YESSSS

[@CageNightwind]

It my have been a segue for an ad break, but I did discover something new this video. Deep Stone Lullaby spoke to my soul for some reason. That song is breathtaking.

[@thefrumentarii8909]

Kathy is an absolute joy to listen to and your conversations and insights really added to the music. Thank you for the video!

[@phosphor112]

Starting off with Witcher 3? Fuck yes. Tears of the Kingdom? FF6? FF7? FF16? Bangers. A bunch absolute bangers this time. I’m not gonna list them all, but I think this episode was super strong. Kathleen talking about how listeners have become so invested in certain pieces is just amazing. The songs that resonate with me are not just because of the pieces, it’s the pieces along with the experiences. It’s why I feel like video games (and it’s music) is so powerful. You have an ACTIVE connection to the music. Also, congrats on the Sponsor!

[@marnixwarren4506]

Just had the pleasure of seeing Kathy perform with my step-sister in Saussignac! I was way excited to see this part two. Great vid you two!

[@lonestarsongs]

It was crazy to connect with you over this!!

[@loganwood9308]

LOVED you showing her Arthas during this, WoW is filled with incredible pieces and im so glad she loved it, more WoW!!

[@enzo991_]

I'm so glad to see Kathy back!! Loved her the first time on the channel and she's just as much of a joy to watch the second time around. I really loved the conversation about the extent to which classic music should be recreated and what constitutes classic music preservation. I have to watch the full vod to see how that conversation ended, that's a topic with lots of room for nuance discussion. Loved this vid Marco, keep on bringing in more cool people!!

[@fellknight]

Definitely bring back Kathy (or she should do her own YT channel for what she's interested in, but she's gotten so much more comfy and articulate between video 1 and 2. I really enjoy the perspectives.

[@Aspartic]

Thank you for another great discussion Marco and Kathleen. Great to have these discussions about the dialogue between past and present music. Loving these so much!

[@PlushLordOfTheSeas]

Surprised you didn't dig something out of the Castlevania series, it is so full of absolute bangers I can't pick just one favorite, symphony of the night alone has hours of incredible music.

[@MarcoMeatball]

i dont know it musically

[@rorynurnberg7216]

man, baba yetu was mind blowing, when you first boot up a game back then you wernt expecting something like this. i remember being a kid booting up for the first time and just lost

[@Nifosis]

I've been watching a lot of these videos and I love them. Most of my friends don't really appreciate video game soundtracks like this but with your channel it's like if I did have a friend like that. Seeing your excitement when you show them the music brings me pure joy, great work Marco!

[@Harmonia96]

I swear I heard Baba Yetu out of the context of the the Civ games a long long time ago. What a joy to have that core memory unlocked And Kathy hit the nail on the head. The advantage of having played games makes their soundtracks resonate more because we have experienced them-we moved the story along; we were flipping the pages. And yet, even without knowing any context, there is a story to VGM scores just like there is to opera.

[@VisforVio]

So happy your channel is growing, hope you reach 1 mil subscribers soon!

[@reaperofthings]

Bro TOTK live orchestra is going to be so absolutely insane. I am not ready, I *will* cry

[@The_Viscount]

Always a joy to see you two having fun like that. The last piece in particular made me cry. Games like Civilization are really incredible. The historic ones are just as much educational as enjoyable, and can be a celebration of how far we, as a people, have come from our days as early hunter - gatherer people's. Yes, those games can be about competition and war and strife, but there's a big aspect that's about building, growing, and developing. I think we need more celebration of our people's as one global people with many aspects, focusing on what we can learn from one another.

[@NeflewitzInc]

I loved watching her reactions and your banter together was warming to listen to. I wanted to suggest another World of Warcraft song called Daughter of the Sea. It's part of the cinematic Warbringers: Jaina that was released on KZbin. Jaina is an awesome character who has gone through a lot and the song is here coming to reconcile with her past and family.

[@themanofquagga]

Please Marco if youre gonna play Deep Stone Lullaby use the version with Clovis' voice lines in it. "You now face Godlike judgement. May it extend eternally" is SUCH an incredible line to hear over a somber lullaby

[@ianrosenbalm6555]

I did so enjoy Kathy's first guest appearance, so having her on again is a treat---especially so because two of my favorite videogame pieces were here ("Scars of Time" and "Baba Yetu")! ❤️❤️❤️

[@KarnizArchada]

I LOVE Kathleen! Great guest, great input! She's such a delight! Also totally loved how she connected the "three sounds/viewpoints" for the Scars of Time song from Chrono Cross. Because... it IS about three destinies converging....

[@knowbuddynose]

"Like Hell Marines!" Wow, got it instantly.

[@iaxacs3801]

If there's anything I want Kathy to know, it's never too late to dive into gaming. Like with anything you might be lost at first, with drawing as an example you can't even draw a half decent circle but if you have the passion to search out and find what drives you to enjoy this medium there is always enough time and eventually that blob you drew starts to look like an oval. Games have been getting better at accessibility options and many include story modes that make the game super easy for those that just want to experience their stories and music. A large part of this community wants deeply to share the beauty they find in any way they can because nowhere else in entertainment have I felt such a surge of emotions like moments for FF16's Find the Flame or Destiny's Deep Stone Lullaby. I hope Kathy you can find the time and courage to dive into this deep vast ocean with us. It's worth it

[@AreaDenialNode]

I love these videos! And Kathy is EXCELLENT! I went and watched the full VOD Immediately after!

[@FeartheAsian117]

I love love loved the discussion around modernization vs traditional concepts in music. It's actually something I think about in cooking as I'm generally a traditionalist and "doing things as they were meant to be". But the arts, cooking, music, painting, singing, etc, all march forward and needing to not lose that traditional understanding while pushing forward and progressing is always an incredibly difficult balance.

[@DurielFFXI]

Celes' Aria as you call it is actually called "Aria di Mezzo Carattere" by Nobuo Uematsu. Fun fact about FF6 is that Squaresoft almost didn't have Nobuo Uematsu doing the music for the game because he wanted out of the game industry and to be a true composer and already had a operetta made which included Aria di Mezzo Carattere and Dancing Mad. His conditions to do the games music was to include his operetta in the game which ended up changing the games entire story line to make the game itself feel like a opera/theatrical play.

[@Denis-pk6ld]

If the ruined king gets skipped in one of these next videos, I'm throwing hands.

[@yuitrigger]

Scares of time is so good! It still makes me tear up.

[@papersage69]

If a gorgeous piano piece is what you are looking for, I’d recommend “Kaguya’s Journey” from the piano arrangements for the Okami sountracks. It’s a beautiful sad piece that goes with the sad story of Kaguya.

[@DeadMansTale92]

The thing about Deep Stone Lullaby is, that the section were it plays is right after a very intense raid encounter. You actually are in space here and jumping your way to the next encounter and enjoy the view of Europa (Saturns moon) were the raid takes plays

[@Sensansenkai]

I'm so glad you got her on again! She has a lot of interesting takes to add. :)

[@the1ben]

I've really enjoyed Cathy's insights and didnt realise how much i wanted to hear from her again!

[@SanguinaryGuard]

This is so amazing. I geniunly love hearing her perspective about all this and it makes me wanna go out to the theater to hear opera. May just need to find some kind of recording as I think I'd struggle to remain focused in a live setting.

[@enriquemijares9902]

Can't believe I haven't run into this channel before, I love how you articulate what's in the music man! I hope you give Suikoden 2's Reminiscence and Breath of FIre 4's op a go one of these days!

[@howitzer551]

Marco you gonna be like a late show and have guests compete to see who gets on the most? Great video as always man.

[@gcsound12]

That last point made about thinking more about how music across these media can learn from eachother and talk less about what each isn’t is wonderful. More of that would be great to hear in the discussion around VGM and any other kinda of music for any media. Great stuff.

[@TheMetalfreak360]

Always a treat to see a video with both of you. Hope Kathy will come on again.

[@deltasource56]

im just here for the algorithm

[@ff.mychael]

me too and thank god

[@unlimited971]

Same. Came from the vod

[@u.r.t.v.unit6672]

That version of One Winged Angel is from Advent Children/Advent Children Complete.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Correct

[@theemeraldhour]

I love how much she enjoyed Kar en Tuk!! Very open mind and great take on the music. Love her

[@KingOfDepravity]

You started off with faqing killing monsters😂 amazing. I love her perspective on things, she’s so receptive to all this, you put her through the gauntlet of music; Metal, More traditional music, to Chanting. My god is that an insane One winged angel, how have I not heard that version😂 the chrono cross three narratives telling separate stories to combine into some more then the sun of its parts is a beautiful way to describe that, makes me thing of the outer wilds travelers playing separate but when lined up, they are one🖤 I also can really feel when piano is played in tracks, deep stone lullaby is such a lovely choice. That last Civ one was beautiful, so spiritual! Thank you, and thanks for having her🕉️

[@midnightmiqo]

I love the sentiment of defining music genres less by what it's not and more by what it is. How many genres SHARE such core values not just in mood or theme or tone, but in rhythm, in composition, in all these musical legos. I love how many video game composers, are just dumping all these genre lego blocks and building pieces that speak to them, to us, to the game. I've always been drawn to music that mixes genres well, and vg composers feel like at the front of that sort of radical experimentation.

[@TheRaidou]

I was wainting for "away" frol FF 16, its só epic, its so cool to see a person with knolege in classical music talking about videogame music

[@VilciXY]

It's great to see you two in another reaction video. I feel like it gives me so much new information about music itself, when you discus about every single piece. Makes me wanna study in music school again. Also...I would like you two have podcast or at least TED talk about 8:53 . It's something what can people discus in whole separate video. Aaand...If I can ask...Will you react to 'South Park Opera' songs as well? Just for that crazyness and fun. I would like to see your face when you will hear that text during such (by my opinion) great performence. And lastly...Do you think, it is. Possible for you to interview some musicians from this game songs, what you reat to? I (and maybe you too) wonder what it is like to work on such project. Thank you for your hard work. Please keep going. You are doing great! ❤

[@aries_seira]

Ahhh... 27:16 Reproducing the sounds of nature. I will never forget the time the outside (but covered!) orchestra for The Planet Earth (in the vein of The Planets) was practically rained out. Pouring rain, the rumble of thunder, the wind and the fresh wetness of the air. No one left though. The people too close to the edges where the wind would attempt to dump rain on them just put up their umbrellas or rain jacket hoods. Mother Earth came to attend the orchestra in her honor and it was absolutely amazing.

[@jonalozano629]

Music to me is a wonderful thing I have loved music and the arts since I hit high school and it has been a huge help with me in my life as well as a comfort to just listen to music and relax to get lost into a video game or just have some playing while doing daily tasks one time my dad and I were talking once and he told me I might have been born deaf and he was so worried that he wouldn't be able to share music with me so Im always grateful for hearing plus hearing your takes and knowledge on music is always fun hope u have an awesome day man

[@GabrielKnightz]

14:14 There IS another serious operatic performance in video game, it's at the end of "Gabriel Knight 2 The Beast Within"

[@Immortal_Dino]

Malzeno’s theme has a specific and special place in my mind. Best Monster theme. Also again, love videos like these Marco! You gotta show someone Ascension 👀

[@benjaminrosiek5007]

man, she really called it on malzeno's theme; it's essentially a vampiric dragon.

[@lightowl5185]

Amazing video onxe again, really happy to see you both talking about music again looking forward to more civ and mh songs to be analysed~❤

[@ohnoezoe]

Marco is out here doing sponsors for Ninja Theory games, this makes me very happy. I want a return to narrative hallway action games. I love it

[@mykellwillits3495]

was not expecting to hear Awaken and Scars of Time in the same video, let alone have someone as informative as Kathy to give her thoughts on it. Beautiful

[@mcquaigmusic]

would LOVE to see a reaction to Super Smash Bros Brawl main theme (I don't think you've covered it yet at least). Uematsu wrote the theme, and it's literally full on opera/classical.

[@hackdesigner]

I love these series, thank you for a very interesting commentary!

[@dop388]

Such a cool channel to run into! Go strong my dude!

[@sumairali1688]

I really liked *Ezio's Family* especially the *AC: Rogue Theme* version, it is a complete definition of *Shay's* story from being an Assassin to converting to Templar's side just as the soundtrack shifts from Ezio's Family to it's own unique theme.

[@blackchacha000]

Okay mister Marco, come through with the sponsor ! Happy for you 😊😊

[@MarcoMeatball]

Thanks! 😃

[@PleasantLeech]

It's never too late to start playing video games

[@nikollasandersen5433]

Marco, you HAVE to listen to Tales of Legendia OST. Every single track there is just beautiful. Go Shiina did and astounding work with that game ost. Forest of no Return is still one of my favorites to this day.

[@Orthus100]

Kathleen is my favorite guest. And since you brought it up, so you have to listen to the Great Mighty Poo at some point.

[@ryuuzaakii1656]

Uematsu said he had never been to the opera or knew much about it, but he still made a great song!

[@LazzyVamples]

Really glad to see Kathy back. She's a real delight! As I was watching this, I thought of how it'd be interesting to see her react to music from Kingdom Hearts, but as I did so, the realization struck me that you've actually not reacted much to Yoko Shimomura's works here. I'd love to see you react to "Force Finale" which feels to me as though somebody asked Yoko Shimomura how big she wanted the strings section to be and the answer they got back was simply: "yes."

[@AndrewRedskin]

I wish she was able to see the treck you make when DSL starts. I remember playing for the first time and my friends were taking me through. They said shut up and enjoy.

[@fellknight]

welcome back Kathy!

[@ChokyoDK]

Ezio's Family has to be my favorite video game song of all time

[@ryanc9876]

What the heck... why is this age restricted? Regardless, can't wait to watch/listen, but I'm likely gonna head on over to that vod to catch this in it's entirety. Love the fact you're sharing video game music, and frankly, I hope I can share some with you some day. Just not sure if it's something you can or can't do videos on. Doesn't matter too much if you can or can't, but still would enjoy sharing.

[@sytytyslankha]

Uuf that cut at 18:05 killed me ☠️

[@alexandremiguel5408]

Really love these videos and your interactions

[@dtw8446]

Interesting that she'd hear the drone string and identify it with India when it's a common quality of medieval European fold music.

[@kevray85]

Ok I’m gonna have to go to the VOD on this epicness…

[@timmy3822]

Kathy’s response to the Doom track was really interesting! I’d love to just listen to her discuss various OST’s all day.

[@iTelix]

Baba Yetu is probably the first time video game music really stuck out to me. It just perfectly conveys this feeling of exploration, growing and advancement like a hymn of humanity. The same goes for Sogno di Volare as well. I love Cristopher Tin.

[@thecreep7147]

12:52 today i learned what the mettaton drama song parody was based of off!

[@argentumlillium3044]

I am SO happy to see Gwen's theme return. Probably currently my favorite champion theme. ALSO my Gwen plush arrived the other day along with getting Chibi Gwen in TFT

[@TejasShastri-lh2mq]

The Ezios Family description of "here's a big story, and here's my small part in it" is EXACTLY what the ezio games feel like, exactly what the music feels like.

[@LucasTigy2]

have you shown someone "nay the honor is all ours yet? it may not have as large of an impact since they'll be missing the motifs, but it's still a wonderful song