Non-US lawyers take the LSAT (with ZERO prep)

[@OKScottish]

It is insane how well Lloyd did on LG without using paper 😮

[@EmandLloyd]

✌🏻

[@flubadubdubthegreat1272]

High IQ

[@senoritalimones]

I’ve been studying for a year and still haven’t done as well as Loyd 😭 law school dreams rip

[@forthdimension686]

​@senoritalimones wait how? What study materials are you using 😂

[@senoritalimones]

@@forthdimension686 lsat demon 7 months and self study 5 months. I was able to increase my score 17 points from my first diagnostic. Im an immigrant so still proud I was able to improve my score by that much. I applied to law schools this week. We’ll see 🤞🏽

[@letyoufindme]

The ending is accurate. lmao After I took the real one a group of us just went to the grocery store got a bunch of alcohol and just day drank before sleeping. The real one is ROUGH

[@hardcorecode]

Awesome, ..... I am just like Lloyd I am a Web application developer by trade . Therefore; what Premier LSAT Prep just did in the video is describe an algorithm which a programmer can use to write code that can solve that logic game question automatically. honestly, I think section 4 is mandatory in today's tech fueled economy. Lawyers have a big task in breaking down algorithms written by big tech companies in order to identify and put in layman terms or legal terms what laws an algorithm is breaking. It's nice to see your are getting sponsors. Great work!

[@EmandLloyd]

Super interesting to hear the perspective from a different industry - I've actually always been quite interested in doing a coding deep dive, and this comment is helping push me further in that direction! Glad you enjoyed the video, and thank you for sharing 🤗

[@caprichrysolite5598]

This is such a fun video to watch! Thank you Em and Lloyd for giving it a try, you guys did a great job with (zero) no prep. It was insightful to see how LSATs works, especially as I started re-watching Suits a few days ago.

[@tansanDOTeth]

This is a really cool series! Very entertaining. There's a lot of parallels here with programming!

[@beaerika7559]

Love this idea! Please try LNAT (the UK) one next? hahaa xxx

[@Susiemylove]

I also find logic games to be fun lmao but the section has since been removed from the LSAT

[@carlosjuliobertos8469]

Love ur content !!!

[@April-dy2tn]

This is was! This was interesting, I was not aware that you did not take an exam like this to attend law school in Hong Kong, maybe you both have discussed this in a previous video. If not, could you both share the law school process in Hong Kong. Also do you guys know of US citizens who have gone through the process of applying and attending law school in Hong Kong or another international law school? As I have gone back and forth with this idea of whether I would one apply for law school ans second if doing so internationally in a country I would be interested in living in and practicing in makes sense. Thanks for showing the convo with the tutor from Premier, the cost of some of these lsat programs are extremely high/expensive so thanks for sharing another option that seems more affordable while still providing excellent information.

[@EmandLloyd]

In Hong Kong, law can be studied as an undergrad or postgrad degree without any specific standardized test requirements - all that matters really is high school grades (and undergrad grades if doing a postgrad law degree) along with CV of extracurriculars etc. Em herself actually decided to come to law school in HK straight out of high school in the US after growing up there! Def something we could share more about in a future video. Really glad to hear also that you enjoyed the latter half of the video with Premier - Jake was great to work with in making that part of the video happen!

[@StackExchan9e]

@@EmandLloyd "Em herself actually decided to come to law school in HK straight out of high school in the US after growing up there!" Why not study UnderGrad law in the UK, Australia, or New Zealand?

[@harrylewin9162]

I did my lsat recently but I'm from the UK and it was quite difficult. My dream score is 173 or above but that will be for my 2nd exam in march.

[@taichengjin2366]

I feel like the drill-ability of the logic games (LG) is probably the reason they will get rid of it in August of 2024. I agree that LG is very much not applicable in anything law-related. There has also been arguments against this section on account of potential racial and socio-economic biases. Interesting to see you guys experience the LSAT nonetheless.

[@martyspandex]

What is racial and socio-economically biased about LG?

[@adarie34]

I just read an article that they got rid of it

[@martyspandex]

@@adarie34 I went on LSAT trainer after watching this video and did 17 of the LG questions taken from past papers. I managed to get 16/17. However, and this makes a lot of difference, I wasn't timed. And I probably took a lot longer per question that would be allowed. I now have a headache.

[@moriahh73]

There is no biases in my opinion. The lawsuit in question was pursued by a blind plaintiff/test-taker who felt that the inability to visualize made it hard to improve in the LG section.

[@willjensen5595]

What are the racial arguments against LG?

[@SwiftOmega]

Em and Lloyd: "My brain is actually hurting" Me, having no law background and no interest in pursuing law: LOGIC GAMES SEEM FUN

[@EmandLloyd]

Ngl, actually an incredibly fun section (Em would disagree), but not so much when done without paper and with a time limit lol

[@alexandral8913]

omg what a fun video!!

[@crispyclean]

I like ur RGB mouse, what model is it?

[@EmandLloyd]

Steelseries Aerox Wireless 3, but it's actually not v good - when I'm at my desk & plugged into my dock, I use my upcycled Logitech G Pro Wireless

[@AshleyJones-cq7cr]

I’m an attorney in California. I don’t feel like the LSAT was really useful to law school, the bar exam, or actually being an attorney. In my opinion it doesn’t really assess if you can “think like a lawyer.” A lot of law schools in the US either won’t take LSAT scores or no longer require the LSAT.

[@crystalfranklin5369]

Which schools are those? I'm applying for the fall, and it's still very much required.

[@tylerpark6223]

There is generally an adjusted correlation of . 60 between LSAT scores and 1L GPA… it matters

[@EllesClorin]

Interesting video!

[@elliehung9856]

I’m stressed just watching this 😂

[@crystalsteward7749]

Loved this lol.

[@martyspandex]

Lovely couple

[@banditbabyyy]

I really hope they get rid of this test. It's so boring and every lawyer says it didn't prepare them for law school.

[@anhtuandao-xz2so]

Will you continue pursuing law or switch to another field?

[@philippa1748]

So the questions weighting differently?

[@hannahd920]

Do you have any tips for law students who would like to improve their logic? especially for tests that feature these 'logic games'. Love your guys' videos! Super inspiring❤

[@EmandLloyd]

I (Lloyd) personally think that I ended up doing okayish on the section because I grew up playing a lot of puzzles and games that involved logical reasoning. For a specific test though (like the LSAT), it really is just a matter of practice and being prepared on test day! Super glad to hear you're enjoying our content 🤗

[@corinardh8635]

I like your Visio ❤

[@ninthusiva7546]

Em grew upp in the US and did så badly 😂

[@DanielEun]

I liked the logic games

[@piyalsahoo1600]

hey dude Try CLAT btw I cracked FYI😉

[@leonfong4456]

Is this an exam video?

[@forthdimension686]

Yall are cute together🫠

[@dd-oe7mp]

I feel like Lloyd as much as I respect you, you shouldn’t have laughed at your wife’s scores

[@TMM-N]

So bad..very bad 😂

[@lightspeedtheory]

The fact they didn't actually move the camera to show their scores has me very skeptical. Getting 16 right in LG with no paper and never having seen it before is not credible at all. They needed to have a third person in there to monitor and verify scores. But all good. It's just entertainment.

[@JEARICK.]

I checked out/bumped into your Tiktok channel and saw that you're making great content.Do you have a business email? or should i just shoot you a dm?