NIGMA vs QUEST - GRAND FINAL - MENA QUALIFIER - DREAMLEAGUE SEASON 23 DOTA 2

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NIGMA Galaxy vs PSG.QUEST - MENA FINAL - DREAMLEAGUE S23 DOTA 2
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[@vaschomadafath9505]

you guys complaining about bad draft at game 5, i was surprised nigma could have a game 5 to begin with.

[@zemel2050]

Yeah lol people bet nigma will lose 3-0 lost money

[@muhammadmuneeb6445]

Gives us the glimpse of Quest's performance in next tournament 😂. It will be similar to ti12. The team is shit since Ammar left

[@jacobferrer5294]

lmao right

[@YoungGokuu007]

To be fair that last draft has zero lockdown, the other team has to stand there for nigma to fight. Aside from brew spit they actually don’t do anything

[@random4538]

No stun on game 5. What a nice free game for storm and void

[@nljie]

Kuro logic: If micracle wins with any hero = first pick that hero for next time

[@Nightknight1992]

dukalis cm is insane, those freezing fields were absolutely backbreaking

[@supercritic100]

Game 5 draft was horrible from Nigma. Couldn't string a gank together with enchant and tb supports, and there's no chance late game vs void. Mid kotl is only good when tempo is fast. Nigma's only tiny window was the first aegis.

[@YoungGokuu007]

Agree! But was also impressive they forced game 5

[@RuangDanWaktu88]

last game hero pick on nigma really questionable. enchantress and TB as 4 and 5 and KOTL as mid no stuner no silence no hex or disable. that storm spirit rolling like he own the map

[@danielkhew5311]

SUmail and Miracle in game 4 is really Insane

[@josapathlapiz4722]

A lineup without stuns against Storm and Void? Man kuro really needs to retire. Last TI they got eliminated with his razor support pick

[@CorazonLaw1]

​@@user-ko3dt3is2e wtf does "do not respect fun" mean? U keep saying that in the comments.

[@nnk9305]

Last TI? They never went to TI Maybe you mean Regional Qualifiers

[@rendranuasa6727]

After the game 4, seems like kuro is on a high horse. 1st pick draft TB, and after quest pick Void, he then last pick AM? Instead of picking support to cancel void like venge who can swap, or WR who can push with gale TB support is joke, not all team can play it really well, especially when u against Storm, who can jump TB support easily

[@weetv69]

Kuroky is already a millionaire with his team betting on the enemy during game. Fvcking satan

[@gravity00x]

that made me laugh so hard. thank you

[@kiro253]

​@@gravity00x😂😂😂😂😂 this is actually genius..WTF!?!

[@chandykabagusutomo4933]

Kuroky draft is the problem..

[@ashes7906]

Nice 0 stun line up in game 5. And last picking AM into void.. what were they thinking lmao

[@XpldedSplit]

into void + titan. And 0 control into mirana storm void. game was lost on draft

[@Tdrnker]

ask kuroko

[@YoungGokuu007]

I’m not sure how you can stop void without a stun and storm too

[@brbsama]

so they last pick am,fck quest was like kill am and win

[@neraida0705]

After that comeback game in game 4, i thought that maybe finally we'll be able to see Nigma back in main stage... only to break our hearts (as it usually is) on game 5 😢

[@__stiwi]

The draft of game 5 hurts my eyes, after a wonderful game 4

[@Wzded]

Picking AM, he gets a great start, top farm in game, gets picked off late game and games over. Standard AM game.

[@PrinceInShadow]

am cant do shit with void and storm having no one to stop them...storm basically have free game even with AM with no disabler

[@AryaShadeslayer]

What in the world was that last Draft. I know April Fools is around the corner but come on

[@CssHDmonster]

tier 1 tower being alive at min 70 is legit insane vs beast and lesh

[@user-yx5ro8to3i]

Can we just appreciate that Nigma getting stronger, and not losing 3:0. I know it is hard to watch how they lose, but if they can get stronger as a team. It will be good.

[@scionaku5662]

Sumail playing his heart out. Well played king. It's better not to go big stages with this weird team and draft.

[@mayuravivekananda530]

Yea the dude needs to go elsewhere. He has definitely picked his gameplay back up recently but needs a team that works well with his aggressive playstyle rather than this 4 protect 1 Kuro loves.

[@luthfiunlimited]

sumail played shit in game 5

[@pucuk1668]

@@luthfiunlimited with a shit draft like that everybody will look like shit..

[@Jowy_]

@@luthfiunlimitedlol what can ktol do with that shit draft? No disable against void and storm. 😂

[@inmye7727]

Kky can’t draft hero to win in game 5 . He’s old man dota2

[@shahinsh4167]

Im in shock. Last Draft was disaster.

[@animusdx]

Geez that game 4 was crazy

[@DG-kq2el]

Nigma has talent but the common denominator why they lose is KURO. Just kick the god damn old guy. Please just let him retire ffs 😂

[@RonaldJarjury]

he's the CEO of nigma, that's why ..

[@momogi618]

I'm giving up saying that for the past 3 years, he won't retire because it's his team. if everyone still in a team with him it's everyone fault now.

[@networkid4642]

I wonder what if Sumail and Miracle can switch role/lane in game depends on the enemy they would face..Such a good strategy for NGX tho

[@DaveeeDavee]

I was thinking there's no way you pick AM into void right?? AM lane went better than expected tho.

[@awangkuarifdanial20]

they were so close... kuro never learn...

[@thidath9939]

Kuro always needs to go all in so much in the draft, that he tries to out-draft other teams because he doesn't have the skills required to win a fair draft. Often, he outdrafts himself. In the game, Kuro just runs around, dies or gets outplayed here and there. Somehow got carried in the past because his teammates were one level ahead of others, not others are kinda all equal if not better. Not sure why he doesn't see that it doesn't work like this anymore.

[@YoungGokuu007]

I think most of the drafts are fine, his hero pool for some reason is just very limited and they are forced into playing these bad lineups. Even in a pub game that draft would be considered atrocious let alone a grand finals of a tournament

[@scalarian1976]

@@YoungGokuu007 zip up when you're done

[@Magina1989]

this proves that void is not the strongest carry but is defently the game changer!

[@boujiewink6999]

hes not the strongest, he just has chrono which you cant do anything about. no bkb, no anything. chrono is just too op

[@stevekeshishian3347]

Nice to see miracle popping off again. Don't get the am pick pick though.

[@ayysy4007]

feels like TI grand finals nigma did pretty well. definitely proven they still got it. ggwp to quest

[@hxnslshhax9011]

No stun draft on game 5? How do you catch fv on that draft.

[@kiraskchvlz4552]

39:28 did tb have sundar? I thought he ult brew but he actually didnt, idk if im just high but Can someone explain pls

[@PaxiKaksi]

He missclicked and sundered an enemy :D

[@Lala26845]

Game 5, Why draft like this in crucial match??? Worst draft in history of dota. Kuroky god

[@nnk9305]

Bro,…Your boy Miracle bought Abysal Blade instead of saving Buyback which cost the Game

[@Tallkingtomyself]

​@@nnk9305lol that game was lost from the beggining, they have no way to kill the storm

[@Lala26845]

@@nnk9305 idc about miracle, i just say this draft worst. Im not nigma fans lol

[@Lala26845]

@@Tallkingtomyself coz trash draft. Kotl against strom, and 0 stuner lol how they kill strom lol

[@nnk9305]

@@Tallkingtomyself AM literally is the anti for Storm from the beginning and up till the end lmao

[@nurbarys]

Kuro drunk draft

[@patamon147]

Good luck next match on Elite League!👍

[@Momonga-Niisan]

1st pick tb, you can adjust it to carry and then why pick brew when mars or centaur is open, pick kotl to sumail is awful with no stun heroes, you can pick lina or void spirit. I dont know why kuro likes to pick no stun heroes.

[@sonyishutin9949]

dear kuro, you don't have to pick weird hero to looks smart

[@xillyn2805]

Kuroky don't wana retire because of Ego. Why? Because there is a veteran who played as long as him, both also a captain and is still doing well, aka Puppey. So obviously Kuroky will never admit he is the reason they're doing badly hence he will always be playing.

[@c4un544n5]

Puppey isn't performing as well as the other pos 5, but kuroky pos 5 decision making is just beyond comprehension. When he was playing vengeful in other game, the decision making in using his swap was puzzling to say the least.

[@gravity00x]

@@c4un544n5at least puppey still is a good competitive player that is above archon level. wheres kurkokie is a bad captain and a very bad dota player.

[@Ara-aositu]

Miracle throw that last game

[@robnielmanalo]

16:14 wtf??? no tree hit the spear?

[@soulify1816]

Bro lion in game5 would be a game changer for nigma. Kurokoy godz strikes again 😂

[@YanDnepr]

just imagine you are Miracle and your team is only top-3 in NEW region with 5-6 teams... it's a shame.

[@GoHyosub]

Ask kuro to draft like that but Nigma still take 2 games in bag. Can you imagine how good that 4 guys are. Lead by a dwarf captain 😂😂😂

[@knightmare2284]

What’s with the game 5 pick

[@thisthrowyear]

Showoff glory sign of koroky legacy

[@mohammadhaziq2318]

who should replace kuro for the captain role?

[@kiro253]

Ur mom

[@jrjr1775]

Kuroky didnt bad draft the game 5. Supports are bad as well.

[@hazeeqisgood]

1 word. KUROKY

[@gr1msasor14]

yeah wtf was that game 5 draft

[@sjdlkfajslkdjflsj]

He saw other teams doing it. He wanted to try it and make ppl think he's keeping up with the times lol

[@H_B_R]

kuroky trying to train his players by handicap with bad draft

[@jamiescott2126]

game 5 is the worst draft for nigma in any pro game I have ever seem

[@Tauan_Vitor]

Time to blame Kuro, bois? 😅

[@nemanjatrifunovic1111]

sure he all normal people blame him how litle know dota 2,you dont know if you text this ,watch draft kuro pls and dont talk wrost draft in history off dota 2 game 5................

[@witchhunted4297]

​@@nemanjatrifunovic1111u realized if the draft was too bad, at some point they were gonna tell him right? Unless all of them were brainlet 😂

[@zmxj_shyguy]

Lmao if top tier teams play Nigma draft , they will surely play better than them. Stop coping lol 😂

[@lalajun5902]

I mean, Kuro is the only who rarely play pubs. At least puppey plays pubs from time to time. Most of time kuro plays shit or badly as supports

[@jakaprakasa3377]

​@@zmxj_shyguyyeah? Can you enlighten us how to caught off guard Faceless Void or Strom spirit Player using Terror Blade, Kotl & Enchan? Almost 5 heroes no one have stun at all, you dumbass fking archon. I bet 100$ if any pro team scene can excetue it and win the game. Even AME AM have Stun heroes in his team if im not wrong thats why he can burst Void and Kite him

[@krasue29]

Kuro with a no stun draft meta in game 5 what a throw

[@toPMAnDota]

As someone who would love to see Miracle- and sumaiL on the big stage . it's hard to watch them play so bad. We know Kuro won't carry anyone, but i also think thiss defeat is because of bad plays from everyone and generally a bad team chemistry.

[@overlytoxic]

when you are dragging precious years off your cores to prove you can still play

[@sinsnotfound6834]

that keeper of the trash pick vs storm void nice draft kuroko

[@jadetaylor6093]

Kuroky is so fucking bad at drafting that two of the best dota players cannot carry him through a region with only one other competitive team

[@rhythm9913]

“Two of the best dota players” 😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for the laugh mate

[@witchhunted4297]

​@@rhythm9913ikr 😂😂

[@marrzcapanang]

they should switch miracle-sumail, to confuse enemies. Like miracle-matumbaman before. I think miracle is a better midplayer than a carry. grats to quest

[@Raiskyl_1453]

They did try that before. Guess it doesn’t working out back then. Also, Nigma mid game moments and pace are highly rely upon their 3/4 ganks, which’s also not quite working out too well too

[@kyrpichko]

Great Suma1L Lehrac in Game 4 carried the game until Medusa went online. But then Game 5 wtf was that. P.S. Valve should really consider something about buildings after min 60. They are like paper compared to lvl 30 heroes

[@Quyzbuk86]

thatsthepoint.jpg

[@Nightknight1992]

dunno, he fed a bit too much, unless he banked on them never being abled to take highground with cooldowns plus him buybacking

[@travelguidemusic1293]

the best draft ive seen in pro dota

[@ane157]

I can already tell which team won by just reading the title and without even watching the whole game xD

[@norestwicked6125]

I just love the tears of southeast Asian miracle fans

[@Mayrik92]

hehe

[@kiro253]

Noooo why would u do us southeast asian miracle fans like that😢😢😢

[@momogi618]

that's kinda gay bro

[@sachingupta9155]

That game 4 comeback was unreal 😮 sad they messed up game 5

[@YoungGokuu007]

I wish they had a draft that could at least be competitive in game 5, they would have to end early to have a shot at winning that game

[@scarygirl3109]

If matthew save miracle early void no getting fat

[@welsoncys5905]

Game 5 is bonus game for Quest. Kuro Omegalul

[@renz02818]

game 5 nigma draft is so outdated. kotl mid lane? tb support?

[@muhdazizan2158]

all that game 4 effort just to throw game 5

[@veronicaa7748]

give a team a bad player and their captain will fix them. give a team a bad captain and not even their best player will save them

[@Mayrik92]

excuses for someone that feeds a lot

[@kiro253]

​@@Mayrik92ikr?!? He fed ur mom alot of his C for sure

[@Gearleyveloso]

ITS OFICIAL, KUROKY IS BAD! MIRACLE CAN PLAY IN TIER 1 TEAM, IDK WHAT THIS FELA DO BEHIND KUROKY, KUROKY IS SOO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@witchhunted4297]

Then maybe it's a good time for Miracle to grow some backbones and leave the team? But since he's a puss, so that might be hard 😅.

[@user-ep6pl4zw2f]

Kuroky what were you thinking while picking last game bruhhhhh

[@bjs4166]

there ia no synergy between AM and ezalor wtfff draft in game 5..

[@kinjiekinkin8079]

struggling to the grand final, but kuro’s drafting the reason they lose

[@beblessed1030]

5th game draft is not so bad if they can end game at 30mins mark, but instead they went late game 😂 they do sumail kotl dirty

[@user-ie7xk7xz3v]

Kuro in Game 5 (Draf Hero No Stuner 😂)

[@surendarpremkumar]

how is this guy a pro player 7:50 . His team killed the carry , he glimpse out the pos 3 .even if he arenas theres no dmg

[@juan-tj1xf]

yea was a shit move by mars but the Kuro saved :)

[@subhankhan8937]

Sumail and miracle needs a new team

[@sukma_darmawan]

what an amazing brainrot drafting in game 5 of BO5.

[@darwis4769]

that game 4 was hype af, only for kuro to completely fuck up the draft for game 5, being a nigma fan sucks

[@nishankharel4842]

Tb carry wouldve been fine and draft a stun for 4

[@hl7297]

15:58 wtf is that jump from 9-14 to 11-17, that's 5 kills! You didn't even show how puck die?

[@wajdanzahid]

game 5 deciding match. Lets give sumail KOTL. KURO MVP

[@muhammadadam7899]

i miss bzm. he doesnt enjoy the game anymore

[@kemon10]

The most stupid draft on game 5 and FINAL game... Kotl mid, pos4 tb and late game AM? Just disband nigma .. you just drowning these skilled players

[@djgot5305]

NIGMA who will come "back" next?

[@mariejuana2100]

Terrorblade Support?

[@witchhunted4297]

This kid's either been hiding in the cave or busy working 9-5 or sum 😅

[@heavenpiercer5095]

zero stuns vs void and storm spirit, hell they cant even cancel any tp or even e.t's stomp apart from am ult which would be a waste lulw kuroky's brain going back in evolution to an ape.

[@marcodfaust4293]

Kuro 2024 : Stun is so out of meta Kuro after game 5 : Should've went with TA Tide

[@navidtofighirad9975]

When Kuroky is going to accept that his time is over? Let the younger one come ahead , god so many TIs they have missed

[@jimmyhuynh8736]

Game 5 kuro buy a fuggking aghanim scepter for enchane, 0 impact

[@apexvenom115]

Nigma Tier 3 Confirmed !!!!!!! 🤧🤧🤧🤧

[@N1NJ4P1R4T3]

Are the supports/Fbz mad at Miracle or something? They let him get punished the whole series.

[@thecreedman7600]

this is a draft by who?

[@modhkaartheryy9565]

The Master CEO BALD KUROKY

[@aedanmonkey6253]

Whenever you watch nigma game its always them getting ganked. They have problems with movements across the map

[@akushon_kamen]

yeahh. thats what cross in my mind. every game. sumail dominates mid, yet still losing his lane. almost every game.

[@mookanator1]

Game 5 last pick AM into void 😂😂😂

[@muhammadammar5941]

No stun draft. Epic throw

[@lunaa2244]

worked hard to get to game 5 then troll

[@muhammedaydin6108]

720p ??? lol

[@gabrielguerrero3897]

All that farming for just 2 chronos😅😂

[@DaToro_Dota2]

Game 5 pick Erazol Mid, FEEELTRASHMAN

[@kkuwana]

Who picks AM in this economy? Never seen an AM win a professional game

[@user-wp7hj7wg6k]

Yatoro??

[@anomals9692]

tb support is GG what are they doing there are a lot hero matthew can play

[@juan-tj1xf]

absolute Garbage Draft game 5. Whats the advantages of kotl mid?? (aside from TB support)