TUNDRA vs nouns - WHAT A GAME! - TI12 DECIDER - THE INTERNATIONAL 2023 DOTA 2

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TUNDRA + TOPSON vs nouns - ROAD TO TI12: GROUP STAGE DECIDER DOTA 2
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[@ridiculousrusty]

It always surprises me that people call out pro players for being bad. Everyone in this game is a mechanically-gifted dota genius, and they all have my respect.

[@mjmayuga]

blaming Skiter for Chrono-ing own team when clearly he wanted to get K1, but there's miscom with Nine kicking K1 away from chrono to their fountain

[@JulioA.GuanchePerez]

@@mjmayuga that was not the only time he cronoed teammates, watch the game

[@ramresroas5606]

Very well said. I just hate it when people makes fun of people who's obviously better than them. Damn the arrogance of these noobs these days. For them 1 mistake > more achievements

[@stevenstone307]

Every sport has amazing people at the highest level, but that doesn't stop them fucking up.

[@minnesotabs8627]

9:15 Moo doing the witch doctor dance 😂

[@jackthebeetle7981]

Fun fact: This match won't appear on Topson's YT channel 💀💀

[@FrezyRiz]

Obviously?

[@xcjsmith5310]

He have a YT channel? Sheesh…

[@danl_w69]

if you were him, you wouldn't upload it either

[@cataklysm]

fan made channel tho, creator was pinoy

[@wiiiLLm]

You usually upload highlights, not lowlights genius.

[@asmerX100]

watching a TI winning carry having a brainfart moment like herald players is just hilarious

[@karlofranciscocaceresbarre8019]

Ppl blame topson and tundra but don't rec8gnize k1 HUGE performance

[@ashtonl7341]

21:34 one of the best chronos I've seen so far

[@leninvladimirgarciapacco6017]

actually its nine's fault

[@salimkun4597]

But if u look closely, theres some miscom with Nine there that kick CK away before the chrono landed

[@Laitosherra]

what do you expect from skiter :D

[@xoomzera2830]

what about the egg chrono ? @@leninvladimirgarciapacco6017

[@firmankira9460]

It's misscommunication. Earth Spirit kicked CK

[@monsteras90]

K1 beast mode. Gave Tundra a nice beating.

[@HighOnTheLife420]

a fucking peru dogs

[@fauzannozann]

K1 is some prospect since he was in SG bro he just need to stop joining latinas team

[@DaveeeDavee]

I dont think there's a TI winner chocked as bad as skitter in game 2. Dude was chornoing egg and teammates.

[@toopided]

he malded really hard in that match lmao

[@pieterambarita5742]

Moo cosplaying Witch Doctor 9:13 💀💯

[@robertclaridad8226]

Skitter really be triggering me lol, his teammates doing their best and he's here messing everything up like he's high as a kite

[@skidofo5625]

I love everyone bashing topson as if he didn’t do good, he was the only one playing solid the whole game. Void was terrible, chrono an egg, chrono 2 teammates, very bad uses of ult. Topson is far from the reason they lost that.

[@moonfire_222]

People shitting on Skitter even for game 1 but Gunnar was playing insane, there were 3 or 4 times Sven was about to kill 4 heroes by himself with BKB and GS up but Earthshaker was ALWAYS there to perfectly fissure block him.

[@fiendishshape]

9:03 best wombo of TI12 so far

[@jackthebeetle7981]

14:56 the void in your team 😂

[@Crispy_Cheese88]

Thumbnail should be Nouns + skiter vs 4 tundra w. Topson

[@Yundi_]

kekw

[@mr.G1F]

Or Lulson with his Injoker build and performance 😂

[@doctorwho2840]

Shout out to gunnar who picks shaker after lesson from miracle in ranked matched . Dude really know how to batchest now

[@erixdiandra4582]

One of the best performance from nouns.. lower bracket is more hot with GG..Tundra..BB..

[@brjnavarro]

If only RTZ did this build on ck, and actually buying a bkb….

[@thetrashman5258]

Moo is back on the spotlight, this man became forgotten after the DC loss way back

[@JulioA.GuanchePerez]

Wait thats the same guy?

[@pabloiglesias575]

Any player loses: ok Topson loses: dogson flopson trashson. It looks like that Topson screw everyone mothers

[@sxj__]

😂😂😂😂

[@MrFrezzboy]

yeah,there are always haters for every pro player, even miracle has haters

[@russtran]

Skitter choked so bad, game 1 can be a bad draft but game 2…. He just got kited around and cannot sync with the fights. Topson is not a carry player, his play style is buying time for carry and being annoyed to other team, he fulfilled his role. People blaming him is just nonsense.

[@jhdivina]

tbh, fv in g2 was an abysmal pick. nouns covered the chrono so well with their draft. phx egg+sunray, willow terrorize/bedlam/shadow realm, all three cores being tanky bois, phantasm, primal split. the only decent chrono targets where willow and phx, but they’re always way in the back somewhere. if he chronos the core heroes, he doesn’t do enough damage. the only way they kill the core in chrono is if they somehow landed a perfect wombo combo: chrono+ fatal bonds+ upheaval+ catac+ ion shell+ magnetize. nouns were split up incredibly well though. can’t really blame this on one or two players. nouns outplayed tundra in both games.

[@rac8153]

Skitter had his worst ever performance, he choked so hard after tundra went 7-1 in group. Losing to a NA team is a complete disgrace for a team wanting to get TI finals

[@mendozajohnkenneth2722]

this void is on another level of dota, imagine chrono your own team so you cant def the ancient lmao

[@marcherano9167]

21:35 Nine just save K1

[@jairalex4649]

Skitter vs Dyrachio, WHO IS THE WORST VOID PLAYER?

[@JulioA.GuanchePerez]

23 savage. One of his group stage matches he killed his own team in crono twice, and landed a zero man crono aiming for a support lmao

[@dusc4]

skitter has been playing so bad in the past few days i cant believe it

[@BennduR]

21:31 nine earth spirit turns k1 ck into a rock and kicks him out of skiter's chorno lmaoooo they would have held the push if they killed CK here, super sad

[@thommas1481]

Un addition to this, thanks to that kick, k1 manages to kill 33 who was almost safe near to base

[@Lazyboi3]

Their plan was to kick ck near to the mountain and kill him with chrono but skitter chocked and thought they would missed the chance

[@BennduR]

k1 ck = k1ck = kick = foreshadowing? XD

[@siskanotanexibisionist562]

​@@BennduRforeshadowing they will kick nine cause thats what tundra do best

[@cannnds]

that game 1 wombo combo was insane from moo + gunnar

[@addisonchan5994]

23:08 the look of the man who chrono’d his whole team late game

[@skreyao4898]

and look it slowly and carefully again... Earth spirit made CK stone and pushed him away just less than 1 sec before skitter used refresher and chrono... it's not all skitter's fault... they could have killed ck there and force him to buyback or reset the fight but that earth spirit of nine saved k1 at that moment which leads to more disaster...

[@JMing96]

Earth spirit fault for kicking ck

[@sendmechecks]

Skiter choked SO hard, wow.

[@MonkeyDLuffy-yr6ko]

harder than he chokes eva elfie

[@CeruleanEyesOfWind]

K1 is laughing at Beastcoast

[@HighOnTheLife420]

coz peru are dogs lol

[@mikhaillucas10]

What an upset. Well played, Nouns.

[@ralphrenzdelrosario939]

Atleast give respect to Nouns and put their face instead of Topson.

[@przemysawbrzeczyszczykiewi1211]

Im giving noob the benefit of the doubt, if he would have put nouns logo people would have known about the upset maybe 🤔 so show Topson click bait

[@moorederodeo]

Yeah the topson thumbnail is for views

[@ralphrenzdelrosario939]

@@przemysawbrzeczyszczykiewi1211 there are four matches yesterday, and all the winners face are the one in thumbnail, except this one.

[@ciat2631]

Skitters void was really something else

[@bodlouk7011]

All these guys blaming skiter... Phoenix positioning was just too good, she's one of the best heroes to have outside of a chrono

[@ziljanbalan7264]

what are u doing skitter?

[@baldman4187]

Excellent move, Agent Skitter!

[@chossmedia]

Imagine hiring Topson to lose 0-2 to Gunnar on Ogre mid. Don't get me wrong I love gunnar but the idea of this is hilarious

[@gnq_k]

feel like skiter could play way more confidently if he had cataclysm + bonds combo behind him no aghs seems questionable

[@JulioA.GuanchePerez]

@@gnq_k cataclysm doesnt damage your own teammates or phoenix's egg, so it would have been useless that match.

[@gnq_k]

@@JulioA.GuanchePerez savage😂

[@wesleydanielz5972]

Great to watch amazing players put through tough games like this. This is top .01% Dota right here

[@palwansadik7826]

And all fanboys blaming skiter 😂😂

[@xx7moodxx-998]

That void and sven are herald play for sure

[@kev0tran_]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mhrzdyazzz9429]

Shopify is trash team with trash players just stop😂

[@PrnvP23]

Skiter back to his pre TI 11 form I see

[@leonardoalvarezangeles8127]

K1 orgullo peruano ❤ Beastcoast se arrepiente de botarlo

[@Gabrielbarsch]

boa manito

[@zachariahkerner7896]

Waiting for the "thank you Skitter!" farewell post on Twitter.

[@savvyexcalibur]

"We need better than Miracle" -Tundra😂

[@RedEyesSg]

23:07 Skiter's facial expression ... severe trauma -- man dota is that kind of game huh

[@Lazyboi3]

His chrono at the end cost the win.

[@siskanotanexibisionist562]

Its sucks to have an agent join your team and ruin your team chemistry.

[@qkinggaithq5036]

23:10 Topson reaction

[@theguardintemriel]

14:59 Chrono egg, hit egg, egg didn't die fast enough, backed out, still got clipped with the stun, died anyway lmfao

[@popedope4842]

Clown void

[@gubitiful]

He also chronod willow, if you open your eyes you will see

[@theguardintemriel]

​​@@gubitifulliterally walked into the chrono. If you use your eyes and brain you will see.

[@_erir1]

Topson tried his best, whereas Skiter did his worst.

[@GiulianoVenturo]

22:55 pls lord GabeN make that a voice line!!!!!!!!!!

[@ozc4896]

skiter played so badly both games Lmao

[@purevdorjganbat928]

he should buy manta

[@nakamurashinichi2823]

No eva elfie buff. Shes w 23 now

[@aipipiw]

The worst FV performance in TI probably ever

[@nicmagtaan1132]

Have u seen midone smg fv cuz that is a glorified melee creep 😊

[@konar7466]

Skitter played g2 so bad it hurts my eyes...

[@basicallytroll2705]

Really? Topson is the problem to be honest and I'm a big of Topson fan.

[@mr.G1F]

It was Lulson and his injoker item choice made the game worst for tundra

[@EnverZiel]

​@@basicallytroll2705 wait so you are telling me that low networth stupid void that using his chrono on phoenix egg and dies like a dog is not a problemXDDD And also 2 chronos on phoenix with bb is clearly worst decision and also 2 chrono on Nine in the end is just hilarious)

[@konar7466]

Up ^. U tell me this chronospheres that did nothing about 5 times and even were harmfull to tundra team was not the problem? Topson did his best with given space creating heroes for skitter.

[@basicallytroll2705]

@@EnverZiel CORRECT. The way he perform in game is the glimpse of a reflection of how he is in real life, a useless deadbeat father. He is spending 90% of his time in dota 2 more than his family. I won't be surprised if an affair suddenly occur, can't blame his wife if that ever happen. Also be BLESSED, I don't usually respond to a reply with irrelevant logic from an adult who clearly still faps on cartoons. You are living the life of an third world country dream. Consider yourself lucky, have a great day bud.

[@peterdango4513]

topsen did good, the most idiotic player here is SKITER get nine to play pos1 and skiter 4 or let aui take his spot

[@marcojoestar212]

bruh, tundra and GG lost the same way, literally picking a void in this meta, void is shit cuz everyone is tanky!

[@jayt733]

Void worst carry he's been nerfed to oblivion

[@KillerInstinct1]

Honestly this might be true, voids damage in chorono is limited and he cant kill targets that are above a certain HP

[@jacobferrer5294]

that void choked so hard

[@lethalviper250]

Tundra is no joke. Feeling bad for Tundra... they have put so much hard work... Feeling more bad for Topson, 33 and Nine... I hope they bounce back from this.

[@OHOHOHCOME]

Tundra can only win with broken strats. They have nothing this year.

[@Covertghost]

"Feeling bad for Tundra" they got outdrafted and outplayed I'd be mad if they won that series tbh

[@bigode8762]

K1 GOD!

[@jackiehadi6410]

16:33 THAT SUNRAY IS SO BEAUTIFUL

[@vertigovike7020]

Those fissures from Gunnar were perfect

[@Stealth-16]

SR lower bracket TSM 0-2 to VP Nouns is our NA hope. What a time TI be alive.

[@hambubu]

Actually is all America hope (NA SA) many people in SA suport too

[@Robinnxx93]

@@hambubueg still alive

[@hambubu]

@@Robinnxx93 sure, but right now, they're not playing well. Ppl dont trust them

[@rhudychristianjoseph9403]

Topson vs Nouns!

[@palwansadik7826]

As always 😂😂

[@shawnjan280]

Picking CK or Naga for skitter. Not Sven any more. Let him play his best heros. Glad Noun win this one. NA Dota!

[@Satimy]

I just picture GrandGrant sitting in exile somewhere drinking a Diet Dr. Pepper and silently screaming Gundaddy

[@tobeymchades6645]

That last void crono his teammates omega lul 😂😂😂

[@hengx]

yes did it like twice LOL

[@alkria]

9:12 watch player cam lol

[@fynaakurvinen8028]

wd irl 😂

[@bobbytang9924]

lol i thought that was 33. They look the same.

[@rohanparab1891]

Skiter is the worst carry to win a TI ever

[@hugoalexander5146]

Skiter chroned the phoenix EGG 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@uunuu0521]

the commentator said sometimes you have to click on all buttons and see what happens :)) THat is what he did haha

[@swallowtail7718]

@@anabelma7514He was not lv20 so stop it

[@PlaysetoChannel]

@@anabelma7514 lol

[@leavezgaming]

9:05 game winning fissure + echo and Offlane WD on the low ground with the Death Ward!

[@peugeotoceancolor6020]

Bad choice for Tundra that they chose Topson for stand-in instead of chose a good pose 4

[@darkstar3563]

lol their carrry just ccant carry, always dead, slow farm, lesser impact in clash , even lesser than supports

[@mr.G1F]

Facts 💯 biggest mistake is replacing nine with a dude who trying hard to be like nine

[@awikwok212]

@@darkstar3563 this midlaner sux, toococky ez clap losing to gunnar lmao

[@XuEverything]

skitter should not play void again. just terrible for TI caliber.

[@allantouring]

dyrachoke and shitter battling for the title of the worst faceless void with those chronos

[@SAsquirtle]

rtz

[@fachreyzaputra8676]

no eva elfie's buff this time for skiter

[@SAsquirtle]

dogson fans when he wins against NA: NA garbage should be given 0 slots, 6k players dogson fans when he loses against NA: Format dumb, imagine hating on pro players go back to true sight you 1k chimps

[@Eliakinish]

Do you know the meaning of the word "International"? so fucking stupid

[@RabiRabii-fp1ft]

​@@Eliakinishanyway still don't change a fact that topson fans are manchild

[@RafitoOoO]

I'm not a fan of him, but the format is indeed dumb. 1 and 2 seeds should go automatically to the upper bracket, 3 and 4 to the lower bracket. Tundra went 7-1 in groups, nouns went 3-5 and now all that is irrelevant. That said, fuck all the fanboys lol.

[@Sumi-ql3wj]

How many Ti does NA have? lol

[@notKaijuu505]

@@RafitoOoOi like this new format tho . This way no one can have easier group or tougher group anymore. It make all group to be fair

[@reanaammy8526]

9:00 holy combo

[@matthewchiayongxuan2251]

skiter plays looking extremely sus....

[@cobra-chan5154]

Tbh Ember is really good for game 1 but they just had to discard mid last pick and go weaver support. Topson just want to ES so much he didn't see there's WD on enemy team 💀 GG Nouns 👏

[@JapeCity]

I knew the cancer horse would be everywhere in TI. How did that hero get buffed xD

[@seanpatricktan4836]

After watching it again, CK was IN the chrono when ES kicked him out. That explains it but that egg chrono is just unexplainable lol.

[@emilgomez9020]

@patrickstar4882 you were saying? How do you explain that? Lam mo ba meaning ng 322 sa dota terminology? O baka taga Sta. Elena ka lang din bokologs? Gunggong

[@anzelfamorcan5172]

322 amp herald ka siguro kaya di mo alam meaning ng 322

[@Tauan_Vitor]

9:06 😮

[@tatuhey]

what a fissure from gunnar

[@josepancorboluperdi8128]

9:05 Shiitt

[@aligammaray9621]

skiter was MVP for nouns

[@0ir0ke]

skitter has less and less impact the more they advance to main event.

[@rafaelbonatto904]

this sven was rough to watch

[@Covertghost]

fissures cucked him everywhere

[@alexedu3023]

NA + K1 are back !!!

[@eduardogagno]

3 NA + 3 SA

[@luisvasquez-ib1dk]

Lelis from SA

[@btab7687]

what happen to skitter finger ?

[@markoerceg8624]

Skiter definitely out of focus this series. K1 looking great in a new team, love to see it! :)

[@loh-4528]

i knew gg when i saw the draft for game 2...ck panda and ogre....lol, dyracho learn void from skitter or skitter learn from him? both equally bad😂...from 7-1 to 0-2...this is like a total different team from grouo stage...how aui outdraft by nouns

[@mr.G1F]

Lol u talked as if you've seen an ogre mid in pro scene regularly 😅 stop the copium

[@loh-4528]

@@mr.G1F lmao, panda, ck and ogre so tanky with stuns..how u kill them with void, warlock voker, and a ds? long cd spells and not enough damage...if u just use your brain a bit u know it is gg, especially when they are losing lane at btm to ck...could not take a tier 2 or contest roshan at all.

[@RafuruRA]

​@@mr.G1Fwtf are talking about? Hes already observe that cause thundra get owned stop cry like fat lady idiot

[@ILoveRamen444]

​@@mr.G1Fyou can be a hater but dont be a dumbfuck. Just a gentle remainder

[@o2oejdndndj]

topson's quas wex invoker was way more complex and superior in terms of skill rather than basic exort/damage invoker, playing this type of invoker on ti stage gotta have some respect

[@LMKEK]

?? everyone is playing quest wex invoker now

[@o2oejdndndj]

@@LMKEK topson played it way before miracle won ti

[@juanagung9973]

With the rework everybody play wex now because it's just much better than exort, nothing special really

[@lukaspro5582]

dogson

[@rankings9976]

I mean he didn’t even buy shard which is lame

[@alejandromarquez467]

Damn Nouns looking better than SR

[@garylaraneta1900]

NOUNS is 300% better than Shitify Rebellion

[@OverthrowVIP]

Bro sr was playing spirit totally a monster team

[@arifpratama1045]

void crono 100% fail xd

[@metaph0xr]

Thank you nouns for making me a lot of monz, underdog bets give insane odds lol

[@Nullinium]

The whole tundra team wakes up on the wrong side of the bed, WTF is that.

[@mr.G1F]

It means its a big mistake to replace nine with overrated white dude who has zero winrate in mid

[@TheRealDodobird]

9:13 (Moo) look at it go

[@Mr022588]

No 2peat for tundra and 3peat for jokeson...obviously

[@shengsterino]

Chrono the egg???? This is quite sus... not just one play but the whole day

[@nvidia980]

This is why DPC points doesn't matter. No one should give a crap on how strong a team is in DPC season when it comes to TI 😂😂😂

[@AdriegoDC]

K1

[@rac8153]

hard trolling Tundra at the worst time, they disrespect a weaker opponent too much and troll drafted their way into loser bracket

[@dikaalma4213]

skitter is the mvp

[@rocketbabydoll9783]

that team chrono lose them the game for sure 😂

[@astronemir]

First game as Sven. Best flags farmer. He’s running with slow boots in dire triangle chasing an AA worth 200gold instead of taking 1000 gold of creeps

[@gabrielqueiroz1603]

k1>>>> parker

[@HighOnTheLife420]

viva la peru dogs

[@reggieramos7920]

Gunner > topson

[@Covertghost]

his ck farm in game 2 was insane