NIGMA vs SECRET - WHAT A GAME - ESL ONE GERMANY 2020 DOTA 2

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NIGMA vs SECRET - WHAT A GAME! - ESL ONE GERMANY 2020 DOTA 2

[@Eden-ie3vl]

wana know why w33 is so good with batrider? cos batrider keeps shouting his name ingame

[@Cecheng]

I JUST REALIZE LOL

[@mamat1042]

Weeeee

[@zizouwowist1641]

good one :)

[@tenseitan8081]

Logically true

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

HAHAHAHHAHA

[@MC-wh3xm]

that spear at rosh won them game 3

[@ksraimy7596]

He is zaii indeed

[@itsmaxieb0044]

Good eye. Yeah pretty much. Nice save.

[@jackthebeetle7981]

Kuro in 2019: Matu is the problem. One year later Matu is still the problem to him, as an enemy.

[@xyz3702]

No kuro on this tourney

[@jackthebeetle7981]

@@xyz3702 yeah, I bet he watch it live online

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

LMAO

[@daniellacerda1009]

19:49 that spear man...without it, miracle'd have a double kill and... who knows

[@sansarsah2966]

IT is sure.

[@berryesseen]

Matu wasn't the problem. He clearly showed how good he is at carrying the team.

[@amirulasyraf5256]

22:31 new chatwheel confirmed

[@H_B_R]

this is actually the best performance i've seen without kuroky. It was very close. Nigma did a good job against the ggbet odds 6 to 1 favouring secret. I mourn the bettors for the first game.

[@reaper5422]

19:46 damn that spear from zai is so good

[@fr5334]

Man I just don't understand the negativity towards Wee in this game through the comment section. I mean yeah he has been underperforming lately but man did he show up in this series. He's laning was poor I admit but you can't deny the impact he has on Game 1 and 3. That tiny was incredible with flawless ganks from early to mid game and he still made his presence felt in the late game and alsp his batrider with those clutch lessos late game which turned momentum around especially that two pa deaths before Rosh. GGWP to Secret for not crumbling under pressure but also Nigma played so well and beyond expectations given their current form. In the end Dota wins.

[@supercritic100]

Very well said bro!

[@ramadhaniarya4764]

Let's hope in the grandfinals there will be the same level of intensity like this series, instead of the usual 3-0 stomping by Secret against any teams

[@claudeoliver9437]

This game is not bad, Nigma actually got a two digits total kills against Secret, and the game lasted too long. This match is interesting.

[@vinz5380]

This series is 🔥

[@YangYang-ct2gx]

Secret is just playing around you can tell that when they pick ck offlane

[@vinz5380]

@@YangYang-ct2gx kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXaVZoCEn56DY6c

[@alvinmondano3345]

Yeah. Exactly!

[@marktan9613]

Last clash was so messy for nigma clearly miss communication

[@tdk4839]

The fact that puppey made so many io mistakes and they still won is.....amazing ig

[@mrpeace9836]

Puppey might have almost smashed his keyboard at some point😂

[@JohnSmith-tx4od]

i fking screamed when matumbaman just disappeared after almost killing miracle

[@arifwcksna]

yeah so many mistake hahaha

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

Zai save them 🤣

[@aliankhan8429]

After baning 7 matu heroes ( life stealer, drow, lone druid, sven, pa, antimage, ursa ) in game 2 matu stills comes on top with 1030 gpm.

[@SgtWhitebeardGaming]

Matu paying respect to them Nigma boys haha

[@Northkalman]

He revived the dead hero Alchemist that game xD

[@bhampoyo]

@@Northkalman dead hero? That shit is common in legend bracket. Dude

[@Northkalman]

@@bhampoyo dude u serious? Its broken in legend bracket? That why u stay at legend bracket i guess. Noone blocks camps with sentries. Noone agros on alchemist for the 1st 15mins and lets him freefarm. Try going divine bracket or higher and play alchemist then on the 1st 15mins you will be 3-10 with no neutrals to farm because its either blocked or enemies are camping in ur nwutrals to kill you

[@jamesd1420]

@@Northkalman bf alchem was used by Ame last month

[@junaidnakhwa7124]

11:08 that lina stun dodge by haunt awesome play miracle boy

[@SD-kg3rd]

8:40 LMAO actually ban all matu hero

[@levanluyen5436]

yea lol

[@user-tz1ch9zv6g]

Too bad matum's hero pool way bigger than bat+meepo w33luuul

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

Isnt it ironic , kicking 100 hero pool players for bat+meepo player 🤣🤣

[@johnagha1227]

19:52 that spear changes the entire fight . no spear they die on 2 supports then out number them with a rosh at a quarter hp

[@michaellim7234]

yeah, huge play. Pugna is position 2 though, not support

[@user-tz1ch9zv6g]

It's a mid pugna btw.

[@ethribin4188]

Even after two years, its confusing to hear Matu and Miracle fighting and realizing they are fighting eachother.

[@engkumarwan1876]

That's how powerful secret is. They can make mistakes but not the opponent. One silly mistake then you're done for. I still hope nigma can comeback for grandfinal because if it is not, we'll be seeing 3-0 swept again by secret..

[@casiusraniel805]

true!

[@وليدالجن-و2ظ]

The did beat nimgma 3_0 in the last Grand final

[@jonathanchan711]

Honestly, this is actually acceptable (for me). I remember the other tournament when Nigma 2-0 Secret somewhere in upper bracket but ultimately lost to them in the Grand Final... I hope Nigma can put up another lower bracket run, but I’m not surprised if OG 2-0 them

[@alikamali4174]

That save your buddy synderome and the end of game 3 by miracle just ended the game tbh it was nigma series till that mistake but hey! Every lost is cuz of a mistake so its acceptable Still a satisfying series

[@aasth]

11:05 THAT MIRACLE DODGE IN ULT OMFG ...

[@berryesseen]

Secret will be the Messi of Dota 2 soon. Always at top, always good plays, but no World Cup.

[@rashmin4222]

But they have ti winners

[@LeafyPeach]

@@rashmin4222 but as a team secret have never won, doesn't count.

[@LeafyPeach]

@@rashmin4222 but as a team secret have never won, doesn't count.

[@berryesseen]

I compared a team to a player anyway. As a team, Secret doesn’t have a TI. They are cursed maybe. Just like Messi having Higuain in his team.

[@pantomassassin9554]

matumbaman getting better and better every day

[@rm-lv8ex]

he was best long time ago, only wasted talent by kurona

[@oscaruycoque304]

@@rm-lv8ex yeah, in an interview, puppey said that when matu was still in liquid, he needed to adjust his play and heroes because of miracle. Now he already unleashed the real carry matumbaman.

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

This is what i said before , im a secret hardcore fanboy but no matter how strong secret is i always feel secret vs nigma match is always 50 50 and always interesting to see .

[@adeptasororitas1929]

Yapzor outplayed the entire support line of nigma with that rubick holy moly

[@ramilalinjr.5421]

11:06 Sickest dodge I've ever seen

[@geraltofrivia722]

u must be herald

[@ramilalinjr.5421]

@@geraltofrivia722 happy?

[@alexandertimchenko5690]

19:50 GODLIKE SPEAR

[@arunprakash4792]

Zai's spear on Miracle to save Nisha at the rosh fight in game 3 probably won them the game

[@lazzuuu21]

Agree that spear is amazing, and zai save 2 supports too if I'm seeing it right

[@abehami4709]

Yeah

[@wildanilham3795]

miracle didn't see it coming.

[@akiferensenel7120]

the hell is this nigma won just 1 game and everbody is like nigma won the series at comment section xd ı think thats even more humiliating for nigma

[@chinubokil]

@11:06 Miracle- dodges lina stun with haunt-reality. I mean come on man...

[@Northkalman]

So this is why puppey has been spamming IO in pubs this week. He had lot of mistakes this game which almost cost them but his itemization are on point and with team chemistry still made them win. Nigma Liquid and Alliance always give Secret a run for their money even if they win they earn it hard against those 3.

[@jamomoritz6763]

Fully agreed

[@Northkalman]

@MCanime TV that was indeed a mistake. Miracle was surely dead with just 2 hits but that relocate prevented miracles death he also left matu at bottom when he had relocate and let matu die xD

[@Cecheng]

God at chen but pepeg at IO

[@momogi618]

when puppey tp and leave his core alone to die xD

[@Yumpo.C]

7 carry ban by Nigma and miraclul still got schooled by matu... No 🧢 to matu..

[@bimaprasetyautama3422]

Matu at liquid just being miracle "shadow". Fake pos1, give miracle all the farm a whole time, and making space. Totally different with matu as a real pos1 at secret

[@tiero37]

they didnt ban green hero tho 🤣

[@zobayer1]

As a secret fan, I was hoping for Nigma to win. And I was wondering, if Nigma could pull wombo combos like that, what happened last week against those tier 2 teams... SMH

[@gamingman9028]

Lots of misplays for both team. Secret showing some sign of weakness and Nigma with the choking. Finally some entertaining but mind boggling series

[@erickzokost4880]

11:11 that move by miracle.

[@rexoya5750]

Matumbaman > midone so it wont be the same like the last TI stop pretending

[@kronfischer]

I can actually agree with this statement, ngl.

[@bluebana2280]

watching Batrider laning agains a Pugna's netherward mid was almost depressing

[@beyhanf5754]

The reason 3rd games was that close are 4 secret members made so many misplay on that game. -sai keeps missing spear at earlier stage and throwing arena for 1 bounty lmao -yapzor always get caught in the first 20 min -nisha positioning wasn't the greatest (picked off many times and losing aegis instantly) -and lastly puppey IO made some major mistakes. Im not taking anything away from nigma, all i'm trying to say is that this could be just "another team secret match" which is a classic beatdown Hate me all u want, im here just saying my takes from game 3 ✌🏻

[@enigma727]

@Eddie M nigma fangay spotted

[@enigma727]

@Eddie M he is right. secret won despite making so many mistakes

[@beyhanf5754]

@Eddie M i guess the saying is true after all "don't involve brain in YT comments section ever."

[@febrianfauzi8601]

Yeah sir puppey make major mistake but they still win lmao

[@lalremruatakhawlhring2203]

In last game in rmn dont make a mistake nigma will won the game

[@ghouls6666]

That haunt dodge on lina array is HAUNTING

[@rocktypemagikawp788]

that was pretty ez tho any pro carry do that

[@jesserramsessoller990]

@@rocktypemagikawp788 give me a link

[@shusaku2063]

@@rocktypemagikawp788 give us a link

[@CL-jq1xs]

lets be honest though dodging light strike array isn't exactly "haunting"...... its probably one of the harder stun to hit in dota. We have seen RP dodge with manta several times.... this honestly isn't that impressive.

[@tydalgames7353]

11:08 Miracle being miracle ...

[@anwaralexander3035]

Matu > Miracle confirmed. He's such a stable core when he's with a confident team instead of 4 protect 1 fail strat

[@alejandroraulfernandezvald2114]

4:15 CK be like : Fuck I'm dead - Buysback 4:18 - WTF I'm here ( he even tp's to the mid tower xd)

[@Seryung01]

Confused me either... It is a bug?

[@xadaharu139]

It’s not a bug. It’s a feature 🤣

[@jericcruz5623]

When you died at the middle of toss of tiny and bought back, you will respawn on the area where you were tossed

[@mamat1042]

He did on purpose i guess. He was saving his ultimate though and he knows when he buyback he will instantly join the fight right after he died because of tiny toss. Its the same as puck or distruptor skill

[@grantdrew2241]

Miracle makes void look broken. Amazing plays from secret game 3, took a game I thought was surely lost and brought it back convincingly.

[@tungnse]

When you see "What a game" " Incredible" title of nigma/og match in this channel, it means og/nigma lost. Sorry for spoiling every OG/Nigma match in the future but i guess that may help OG Nigma fans avoiding the pain watching their fav team losing. But honestly, this is the first time "what a game" truly is what it is. Nigma and Puppey IO did give Secret a heart attack

[@jamomoritz6763]

No, nigma only team to compete with secret, they almost won that series.

[@jamomoritz6763]

@summer rains void is super broken. But Navi beats it several times. Bat isn't broken, just w33 Prime hero

[@jamomoritz6763]

@summer rains Sven is good, but not that op, it is fun to watch, but did you see PA 85 percent misschance, hilarious. Sven had top late mkb lost them the game

[@tungnse]

@@jamomoritz6763 I dont know, you're nigma fan so you tell it that way, secret fan will tell the other way, but Puppey IO did make critical mistakes that nearly cost them the game, one for leaving matu behind to his death and one for relocating matu when he's about to kill miracle, and maybe one for not relocating matu after w33 buy back, matu must have expected (with 100% trust) Puppey IO to show up saving him at that point that's why he did that questionable one man pushing mid rax. if puppey didnt make those obvious mistake I dont think game 3 would be that thrilled as secret/pa would have proceeded to snowball much faster and owned the map squeezing nigma out before ending them.

[@jamomoritz6763]

@summer rains Sven is only good in certain match-ups. Btw io hard counters bat.

[@nostrahazer8970]

thats some quality carry matumbaman they got there man i always wondering why they replaced matu with w33?

[@dubbedmouse5385]

Because of miracle and matu pos role. Kuro always rotate between both of them for miracle being good pos 1 and matu pos 2. Back then miracle always go for pos 1 and matu’s ability on pos 2 mid are not so good. I guess they really want miracle stay on pos 1 hence they need to kick matu and replace a true midlaner and there is w33ha

[@sophisticatedbeaver3569]

Bcos kuro wanted an all muslim team. That's the real reason

[@faizahza8003]

@@sophisticatedbeaver3569 lol

[@dubbedmouse5385]

@@sophisticatedbeaver3569 lmaoooo but u know miracle is not practicing his muslim right, he got tattoo

[@elmerofun6669]

@@dubbedmouse5385 still muslim

[@deeman010gdj]

Did anyone else see the CK buyback at 4:19? He just spawned where he died and I guess he tried to TP back into the fight so he ended up just standing still while Nigma beat on him.

[@vianbay993]

Yea he got toss by tiny bb and back xd

[@dubbedmouse5385]

Yup the tiny toss bb bug still there. Poor ck man damn

[@jasphervargas8816]

Bug

[@variablesoul]

It is NOT a bug. A bug suggests that the interaction is a glitch. A bug suggests an unintended error. The bb and toss interaction has ALWAYS been there and will CONTINUE TO BE THERE because it is INTENDED. That is how the skill works.

[@Yen-qm3nr]

He did it on purpose, you can see after bb he straight away use ulti

[@gowthamg9554]

Can't believe it's nigma really well played... Nigma had the game 3 but they just made one mistake in the end by splitting up

[@qazimashhood]

i know right, they would have won but that snap got into a stupid fight. Miracle should have backed out

[@AliceMill69]

Lmao 1 mistake? Secret made 5 mistake and still won.

[@mikiswordbreaker4805]

Secret vs other big teams(2-0 or 3-0) Vs Nigma(2-1)..Puppey sure love to give some face to Nigma though..while fans mocking Nigma and tell them to disband..Secret come to the rescue..

[@notoriousnoob9628]

Look at game 2 bans, ALL MATU HEROS banneed. LOL. Say hello to Alch bois Edit: Kicked Matu, Kicked Matus heros : Still LOSE. KEK

[@blackleg3326]

Funny ligma

[@berryesseen]

I am thinking Matu is one of the most underrated Dota players of all time. Just because he doesn't play flashy like Miracle or Sumail does (a long time ago), people don't consider him as a good carry. But he is actually the best right now, at least he is the best in my eyes.

[@jamomoritz6763]

@@berryesseen idiots like the w33 haters bullied him out of liquid. Guess why it is now called nigma, because they don't want to kick their mid, just because of low mmr fans, who hate, cause they losing. For me w33 and matumba are still tier 1 players, even though alot of guys would disagree. If w33 would leave nigma, mark my words, he becomes a player for a tier 1 team again for sure.

[@azwardoitsu]

Dude.. are you idiot or what? It's Magnus first pick. Of course you need to ban Melee carry heroes... It's not like most of all teams always banned GH and w33 heroes

[@berryesseen]

@@jamomoritz6763 although I think that w33 has some questionable plays in games, he is a good player overall. Especially he is very good at some certain heroes, which forces the opponent team to ban them all the time. That is huge in professional arena. I kind of feel like in puppey’s leadership w33 could shine like Matu does right now.

[@austin_kid8157]

22:30 is gonna be a new battle pass chat

[@socrates1796]

19:54 spear of the game

[@batsukhtsogt7615]

19:51 game saving spear by Zai. One hit by sven would have secured them the game.

[@gladdos833]

bruh Zai god

[@Kouenji_God]

Can't believe Secret still won with an imposter Puppey

[@abhabh6896]

Yeah. Puppey IO.....LOL!

[@Diolusion]

That IO from puppey was hillarious, you can tell he hates playing that kind of hero, needs to be more active, even with two huge throws secret capitalise on a wandering rmn brilliantly, sven seems omega broken when coupled with any form of purge hero.

[@Northkalman]

Yeah. Saw him streaming with IO in pubs this week but the hero does not synergize with puppeys playstyle and he had damn too any mistakes that game that almost cost them to lose xD

[@Northkalman]

@MCanime TV he spam it this week but IO hates puppey because it does not suit his playstyle to stick to carry and babysit

[@lokanantazain]

Its so funny yet frustating to see 😂

[@lJADU]

That was such a throw at the end there 😅 chain-feed after chain-feed made it look like a regular pub

[@Redzyy01]

You wouldn't say this if u were in any of their shoes

[@lJADU]

@@Redzyy01 You don't think they know that they totally threw the game at the end there? Please lol. These guys are pros. If we can see it, they can see it lmfao.

[@Redzyy01]

@@lJADU i know, i didn't deny it, you're missing the point though

[@lJADU]

@@Redzyy01 Sorry mate, but I must be. "If you were in their shoes" implies that if I were them, I wouldn't say it. But they probably ARE saying it. Do you mean that I wouldn't say it if I knew them?

[@Redzyy01]

@@lJADU told you, you don't get it 😂, if u were in their shoes, you will throw as well, maybe even harder,

[@ilovejokes95]

22:30 NEW CHATWHEEL

[@midgetporn9735]

naaah fuck that

[@jackthebeetle7981]

Sounds good lol

[@nostrahazer8970]

more like NO MKB NO MKB NO MKB NO MKB

[@erroljand]

evade, evade, evade, evade! hahaha

[@mega00david00]

22:20 miracle literally missed like 10 attacks in a row LMAO

[@basithotululum3340]

Never let yapzor pick rubick...

[@zadrot8914]

Fy rubick way better tho

[@blackrepear4134]

@@zadrot8914 nah...

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

@@zadrot8914 lmao nope

[@zadrot8914]

Much better lol, watch TI, 5 ppl chrono many times and other shit. Fy like a grandfather of DotA. I hate chinese but this guy is a legend

[@ttnn8780]

Miracle has to play carry heroes relying on skills (invoker, faceless void, arc warden.etc). Otherwise, he's kinda passive.

[@GoldenNadhir]

the last fight in dire triangle is so disastrous, miracle got kited so badly and lose aegis without bkb

[@mrpeace9836]

Miracle was like a ball getting tossed here and there.

[@nicolasoliveira4903]

Ezracle

[@beachy77]

Pa evasion is so annoying as a Sven.. even watch Sven has to hit another hero or a creep so he can cleave PA lol needed silver edge or mkb

[@galihdc968]

yep he can just ulti and stun pa when matum try to kill batrider but miracle just walk arround and die twice

[@socrates1796]

pugna and lotus kill sven slowly, especially when u not prepared and jump stun without BKB activated

[@khamalfauzan5501]

it's so rare secret had a close game

[@paulpg6962]

yeah and thats why its worth it to watch matches like this

[@xanoran]

All that for a drop of blood. -Puppey

[@ghostofsparta99]

Drop of blood ? Game 1 and 3 were dead even . Both teams with excellent performance

[@ero-samairianto625]

@@ghostofsparta99 lol, I think he was just referencing Thanos from Avengers : Infinity War. When iron man, Spidey, strange and the Guardians fight him in outer space.

[@tiozon2]

11:07, what a play from Miracle

[@ashfimwastomi7379]

6:06 what a play from Miracle

[@extraordinaryperson5556]

still lose tho lol

[@tiozon2]

@@extraordinaryperson5556 yeah, but I was just saying about that play, not the game lol

[@mamat1042]

Miracle vs the fucking world

[@vanmikko8465]

Is that a Bug? When Zai(CK) died and instantly buyback, he respawned in the same area where he died. 4:15

[@saiayaphets0017]

used to happen because of Tiny toss

[@fahmisa4790]

I think so

[@fahmisa4790]

or maybe he get toss

[@olpaszent]

Tiny toss

[@vanmikko8465]

Yeahh. It's so funny cause zai buybacks then tried to TP thinking he's in the base. LOL

[@BD-od5ys]

Sven depends on gods strength for damage, while on the other hand PA has passive crit doesn't depend on cd,pa is really effective as time passes. Plus io was babysitting matu...wp both teams if miracle had Faceless void game could have been ez for nigma

[@ahaditio]

15:03 got banned

[@krisnaarynasta4335]

yeahh thats why, puppey draft​ was really good

[@Fpsh-z4x]

But one thing is real. Puppey cant play IO

[@Syahmiikramz]

@@Fpsh-z4x nice relocate by puppey lol. To unable the kill of miracle

[@Fpsh-z4x]

@@Syahmiikramz HAHAHAHHA and when he leave matu and relocate by himself. He disconnect the tether.

[@walidcless]

06:04 Miracle's classic Chrono :)

[@gian4487]

11:06 it was so beautiful damn

[@brandontr8946]

4:18 lol Zai dead while being tossed then bb immediately, tried to tp without realizing he's in the middle of the fight, what a glitch.

[@farrel_ra]

Its intended that way; as long as ur not touching ground, ur position in map is delayed, hence buyback on landing position.

[@Zer-us4wq]

i actually thought he knew hes gonna get back to the battle field straight away from the toss buyback thats why he buyback. Now you pointed out he actually tried to tp XD

[@mega00david00]

i think it was intended because he ultied right away; why would he ulti if he thought he was in base? the clones cant reality rift that far. His play was to ult and tp out as a scare tactic.

[@riosyaputra1240]

22:32 new chat well

[@sadshifter]

17:14 best save

[@arts4976]

i think nigma doing good even without kuroky. they almost beat secret . thats nigma is one of the team that has high chance winning against secret

[@potmofthemoon1924]

8:26 for Miracle's 3 man chrono.

[@vont3558]

I like how archon players here trying to contradict these pro's gameplays, like what you gonna do lmao

[@IDK83]

Ikr? And they always blame w33 like they're better than him

[@mygardencat7755]

Nigma win one game against Secret ---> Nigma is the honor champion of ESL ONE Germany

[@whitenight8688]

wow noob shit one game honor champion wtf garbage

[@alikamali4174]

Ton of mistakes from both sides in this series but still there is really nothing to blame just enjoy this series as it is the best in this whole tour

[@anonymous-jk3wq]

11:08 that was sick!!

[@aceretivanlaurentineg.5763]

nice to see weeha getting better

[@keenstein1661]

Weeha is trash and never been better

[@oscaruycoque304]

Better at trashtalking intro.. then silenced if they are about to lose lol fucking stupid

[@keerthivasank9563]

Thought the same until he fcked up in game 2 proving once again he can't play more than 5 heroes.

[@cazimim3375]

@@keerthivasank9563 he can just not at a high level

[@cazimim3375]

@@keerthivasank9563 what are the 5 heroes?

[@rezcaa8746]

Is that bug when zai buyback on first game and still respawn in the middle of the fight?

[@glennztein2873]

He died from air of the toss dude then he immediately buyback thats why.

[@yahyayozbatiran]

Miracle is so bad...

[@fajarahmadsabil6897]

Yeah,im agree about that..

[@abhabh6896]

He isnt. Its just that Mathu is better...

[@ゆたーくん]

@@abhabh6896 matu is in the shadow of Ana Miracle and nikko baby Arteezy bro is bcoz of puppy and nigma decision mistakes

[@elmerofun6669]

@@ゆたーくん in shadow of ana miraclul rtz lol wtf are you talking. We have 2020, and matu is tier 1 carry. All od them can watch matu and learn. Also Ana is dead. Same rtzy

[@ゆたーくん]

@@elmerofun6669 accept or not miracle had carried death team since 2019 can matu carry dead team no!!! gosh

[@jcarlos9432]

11:00 epic dodge

[@dazaiosamu3712]

Matu to Miracle : who's the best carry now Amer?

[@olpaszent]

No, to kuroky cause he's kicked him. And he said wanna change style of the team. But they still picking green heroes for w33 lol

[@sashwinth]

Getting rid of Matu was a huge mistake. Hes a god tier carry player...im glad Secret found a pos 1 like him...he synergises with the team so well

[@dazaiosamu3712]

@@sashwinth agree, what makes Matu better than Miracle is, Matu never takes 50:50 condition like Miracle who always diving on 50:50 situation. To be honest Miracle really have big ego than Matu

[@CurrentlyOffliner]

Matu lost lots of confidence after getting kicked out just before TI , i remember he said something like " this proves i wasn't the problem" after winning hes first major with Secret. Im glad hes back at it again. W33 was downgrade to Matu i hope he can completely prove that by doing better than Nigma at next TI and show baldy what a terrible desicion he made both as a professional and as a friend it was just not ok...

[@aaynimation9652]

Lol. Even matu said he is always watching miracle to learn from him. So You dumbass noob. You better shutup

[@faydn3150]

Did Kuro die of ligma or why isn't he playing ever anymore?

[@cha3ryb3rry]

Only reason the games were prolonged was becoz matu didn't use drow/lycan/lone druid 😝

[@abdurrahmanhumaam6820]

nigma know the power of matu, they ban it

[@Alifaridzy]

DRUE!!! AHAHA Secret is meme-ing lul

[@ZALYVES]

And that goofy offlane ck

[@jemuelabueva7138]

Bruh Puppy's just like "Aight, imma head out" 17:40

[@alexandersheron9079]

4:18 toss buyback glitch zie

[@alexandre-guzu]

The camera lag is seriously annoying, we're missing parts of the fight because of it. Very obvious around 6:48 and 13:43.

[@paramore13334]

puppey did so many mistakes this series

[@ihzahasibuan7899]

thank you for providing us with great and fast dota 2 replay but can you change the minimap to hero icon it'll help us notice hero positioning

[@Mega7thsense]

Turn on caption, you can see Iron Man play dota 😂

[@reba9113]

Puppy almost screwed game 3 with that relocate in matu. Wew good thing Matu was already well farmed at that point, otherwise it could have been a turn around.

[@scyth3yato840]

damn that was a satisfying series

[@Tdrnker]

11:00 dat haunt dodge was beautiful to watch

[@wobsoriano]

yeah, what a dude

[@zizouwowist1641]

not a single soul talk trash to miracle cuz he fail to carry that last game and done wired ass decision but if w33 was the problem would be the saltiest comment section fucking hypocrit fans. nigma was playing 4vs5 the whole fucking game while secret core joining fight witch made miracle the top networth not cuz his god or something then he came in and fuck up the whol thing w33 lasso were insane .

[@amirulmustaqim8811]

why are u talking like miracle always mess things up ? did u even watch most of w33 plays ? hes a fucking mid with a networth lower than pos3 player. let alone his poor laning skill, i dont remember w33 wins lane against any t1 team. can u tell me one?

[@assamulia7117]

when idiot exposing his own stupidity shamelessly

[@zizouwowist1641]

@@assamulia7117 the only thing i m exposing is team nigma hypocrit fake fans.

[@assamulia7117]

@@zizouwowist1641 now u said miracle fail as a carry on this match, can u tell me what is ur criteria of "fail carry" when u said that?

[@zizouwowist1641]

@@assamulia7117 sure not going mkb in time using random buyback and still lose rs die in triangle with aegis alone . it's team game sure but his 60% of it since it's 4 support + one core and he was top networth but still lose others couldn't have done more.

[@LordArrack1]

MATU called the last move to go for throne in game 3. A true 200IQ move. Edit: twitter.com/teamsecret/status/1319762974702227463 - that's for you mr. "5.9k"

[@H_B_R]

it was a no brainer, 5v3

[@LordArrack1]

Then why were the rest of Secret backing up?

[@alikamali4174]

I am pretty sure every SEA player would made the same decision

[@invalice1444]

matu is underrated

[@XxKinGzxX100]

@@LordArrack1 backing up , it’s called repositioning lol

[@H_B_R]

let me just say though, nigma may be able to beat secret, but their Achilles heel is OG. Nigma just cannot beat OG. So this was their chance to avoid OG but they mess up. Now they will face OG and has a very high change to lose.

[@abhabh6896]

Na Vi beat OG.......just......yeah.....

[@Northkalman]

Its as zai said. They always had difficulty against Nigma in all their match ups even if they win, they win it hard. Same goes with Nigma against OG and OG against Secret.

[@alikamali4174]

The triangle love huh?nigma and og fighting lower bracket final while secret chilling at grandfinal..... Pretty much the purest threesome ever.....

[@jamomoritz6763]

@@Northkalman so true

[@H_B_R]

@@Northkalman regardless of their past score and history from observation of nigma fans, it is pretty obvious that OG do not just win games vs nigma, they (OG) destroyed them like nigma was a tier 4 team edit : most of nigma vs secret matches are different, there is actually a game going on this is probably because Notail has completely figured out nigma. This is why team switch rosters, but it doesnt happen much to nigma so they suffer the consequences. I hardly consider switching matu to w33 a roster change because it is still miracle miracle miracle as the focal point of nigma strategy.

[@khieferbrosse4676]

Can anyone answer how Zai was i instantly at mid clash when he buyback at 4:25??

[@snarsule]

He bought back during Tiny Toss

[@arthurknox4260]

Tiny toss. He died in the air and bought back immediately. Dota basically just teleported his character there instantly. Odd interaction

[@ramsecc]

it happens, i had that common things happen. the problem is that a bug from dota, for some reason.

[@bimaafiqnfl]

Some “feature” from dota during tiny toss. Nothing new.

[@mamat1042]

He did on purpose i guess. He was saving his ultimate though and he knows when he buyback he will instantly join the fight right after he died because of tiny toss

[@nightcrawler2803]

That stun dodge from Miracle as Spectre at 11:05 was lowkey insane

[@jayvillar]

oh man, nigma and secret matches are really fun to watch.

[@THATSFACT.]

Secret is clearly best team in the world right now

[@muhamadrizky3975]

Fakoff

[@mr-vb3id]

*eu not the world.

[@THATSFACT.]

@Yonko Shanks so where are they now ?

[@bhampoyo]

@Yonko Shanks 4am got rekt lmao by unknown chinese team

[@rengienasibug9442]

In EU, not the world. Lol

[@jakugarcia]

Nigma played well! Just that unfortunate one mistake at the end. Anyway, fucking secret really on another level! How many win streak (series) is Secret now? wtf! so strong!! I'm really curious with Secret's current form, how well do they perform against Chinese teams?

[@audreytommy1113]

They wreck VG on 2020 yesterday

[@mega00david00]

@@audreytommy1113 what? Explain or is this a joke? Lol

[@jakugarcia]

@@audreytommy1113 you came from future or you're in the 6th dimension? Bruuhh 😅😂🚬

[@audreytommy1113]

@@jakugarcia lmao okay here check this out kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKWYp5d5rMl9d9U

[@jakugarcia]

@@audreytommy1113 bro 9 months ago is pretty long time already and definitely not just yesterday. Specially CN teams already reshuffled. 4AM, Ehome, VG are pretty stacked right now..

[@Gdkcs]

just played a game of dota, my teammate picked offlane alchemist and built battlefury boots of travel. we lost.

[@assamulia7117]

just quit dota dude, u r noob

[@TTCanadaJapan]

@@assamulia7117 he said it was his teammate who picked off alch. Why are so salty? Let me guess, nigma lost?

[@assamulia7117]

@@TTCanadaJapan why are u explaining something that ive already understand? ohhh u r that smart boy ehh

[@elmerofun6669]

@@assamulia7117 cos you look like stupid kiddo who don't understand. That only my opinion.

[@assamulia7117]

@@elmerofun6669 lion doesnt care to sheep's opinion

[@matiasramos8459]

Matumbaman Revenge!🙀