Nope. | Pulsar X2H Review

[@jakeufps]

Figured I'd mention that my X2V2 Muzan (Demon Slayer Collab) is solid with no issues, but I also want to copy mel0n_'s pinned comment for those wondering what the new batches are like: "So it appears like Pulsar has "patched" this issue on the newer batches of the X2H, X2V2 and X2H preventing this issue. I also confirmed that this issue isn't present on the Xlite v3, X2H eS or the Xlite eS editions. I'll do my best to get my hands on some newer batch models to see if they're truly patched the issue. If for whatever reason they haven't the fix in this video still applies to the X2H, X2A and X2V2." source: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnWyeGiqi7t8na8

[@DaBomb5309]

yah no. I just got one today, and i feel the sticky clicks immediately. unless this is different issue.

[@Tylox7397]

Are the minis version also fixed

[@FluXReign]

Perfect timing. I debated ordering one even though a friend of mine had issues with the main click sticking after a month of use

[@r2pair]

ur room was hella majestic looking for this video holy

[@iceorangutan]

the sunlight yeah

[@cmo8627]

Hi Jakeufps. I had the same experience with buying the white versions of the X2H Mini, X2V2, and mini version. All three had crunchy clicks(luckily I returned them). However, I did take a gamble on their Demon Slayer Collab mice and the QC/quality is way better. What I'm getting at based from Pulsar is that QC-wise, Pulsar Collabs > 1st Editions from their white and black line-ups. For those buying a Pulsar mouse, treat collabs as final versions/ Batch 2s and 1st editions as Beta/Batch 1s.

[@andrewsmith9241]

I had a similar experience, my first batch had awful clicks and not the best qc..gambled and bought one of the newer red limited edition drop and it's a night and day difference

[@leoclacks]

My demon slayer mice both had qc issues and i ended up returning both…

[@andrewsmith9241]

@@leoclacks yes seems it might just be pure luck of the draw with pulsar

[@xk4l1br3]

I have the #FR2 mini model on the way. Hopefully it’s not junk

[@leoclacks]

@@xk4l1br3 gl:) i really hope it's fine i was so sad when i had to return my ds mice:(

[@JohnnyBoy-sy8jt]

The rear hump was actually surprisingly comfortable for claw palm users. Coming from the Xtrfy M42, it felt just right.

[@JohnnyBoy-sy8jt]

@@Lb8068 Yes, specifically the X2H Mini for me

[@Eins3467]

Hey bros how good are pulsar blue encoders? Does it suffer to scroll wheel jumping problems after a month?

[@JohnnyBoy-sy8jt]

@@Eins3467 Only had it for 2-3 weeks now and the scroll wheel is smooth with no jumping problems.

[@Boofski]

Yep, I used relaxed claw on my mm712 and it feels even better on this with 20x10 hands

[@MekaniQ]

Compared to Xlite v3, it seems like that all their other mice have been lacking in build quality; that and them constantly making LMTD editions of those models even with those issues (and the fact even newer models of the mice are coming THIS year) seems quite like a stupid move. I hope Pulsar really changes this, cause if their other mice including Xlite v3 end up having those issues, I might avoid them entirely and get another brand instead, and I don't want to cause I know the X2H or XV3 shape could work really great for me with large fingers. Other than that, great review dude! Keep up the great work :D

[@OhItsKris]

The "light switch" comparison is perfect. I main the X2V2 Mini, but have had a lot of issues with it as well. It's sadly a strange mess.

[@Rubiks_LIVE]

I have the X2V2 Mini and X2H mini. I got one of the first batches of the X2H Mini and started getting a sticky left click. I sent it back to get repaired. When it came back fixed, it feels like the clicks are completely different. I haven't opened up the mouse so I don't know if they swapped switches or not. It's possible they used the new updated parts from the Demon Slayer line. Having said that, their customer service was immaculate. Instant communication between me and customer service. The mouse went from Chicago to Korea, back to Chicago within a week, free of charge. As a rear hump mouse enjoyer, the X2H Mini has been amazing for me.

[@VeeHausen]

I have many mice, I just received the AttackShark X6 and dammit...this thing rocks! The shape for me is extremely comfortable for my hand.

[@pkennethv]

Wow what an interesting example of how mouse shape is such a personal thing. After having used the X2H mini for a few months, I just ordered a second one even though I don't have any issues with my current one, because I love the shape so much and don't want to be in a situation where it gets discontinued and I'd have to try finding another mouse (which there are not many of in the same shape). For context, before X2H mini, I used Razer Viper, and before that, SS Sensei...which were my favorite shapes at the time, though I always had my gripes with them (hump too low, and too centered/far forward for my liking), so the X2H mini's very high, very rear hump was EXACTLY what I had been wishing for for years! I will say I MUCH prefer the click feel on the Viper though. It's generally one of my least favorite clicks overall (X2H), and is my biggest (possibly only?) gripe with the mouse.

[@equiknox_]

Do you know what batch did you get?? And what color??

[@pkennethv]

​@@equiknox_ How does one check which batch? I will say this though: my 2nd X2H mini arrived, in Acid Rewind color and the clicks are much nicer than my first X2H mini in White. Because of that, I emailed Pulsar, and they replied saying that they have updated the switches in the white (and I would also assume black) ones, and that all new units should have the revised click feel. I did some research online and it seems like all the red color ones were made with the revised click. So that, and Acid Rewind, you should be "100% safe" in getting the revised version. I'm not sure about the other limited edition colors. If you order black or white from the Pulsar site directly, you will also be safe. But as I bought mine from Canada Computers, it's less certain when their inventory will get refreshed with the revised version, so I'm holding off exchanging my white one for a few more months. This is copy & paste from Pulsar's email reply to me: "This is caused by Raesha's switches, but we consider this as a defect and it is covered by the 2 year warranty, so I highly recommend that you contact your seller and provide them with proof of defect and proof of purchase. ​ This issue is rare, but our QC team makes sure to test every mice sold and remove these, so buying a new one should not be an issue."

[@equiknox_]

@@pkennethv Okay thanks a lot bro!!

[@equiknox_]

@@pkennethv Btw when was this email?? I am planning to just buy the acid rewind just to be sure. I can also buy the red one, which one do you think will be better?

[@pkennethv]

@@equiknox_ email was April 8. I hear from people online all red ones are safe. But Acid Rewind was released quite a while after Red, so technically that’s even safer.

[@TheRedMarauder]

My X2H Mini hasn't had any issues and is phenomenal. However I had QC issues with the X2H on the left click myself. But shit. I had left click issues on my Vaxee NP01S, and their support team told me to get bent. At least with pulsar you can return it if you get it through Amazon.

[@Xetanyl]

bought an x2v2 mini, had click issues and grinding, RMA'd it, bought an x2-h mini, had 2 step issues and grinding where there was 2 actuation points per click because of QC issues, RMA'd it, bought a wlmouse beast mini, had loose left click and mwheel grinding... I can't catch a break. hopefully my op1 8k will be okay :D.

[@JulianGrant]

I have the x2 red,x2 bruce lee,the xlite2 and just picked up the x2h fr2 edition,I have NEVER had issues with pulsar,guess my luck is pretty good

[@senseofpermanence]

I got my X2H mini on release, and here's my thoughts: 1. The sticky/crunchy click issue is typically only when you have not clicked the mouse for about over a minute or so, which typically in game does not even bother me or even have any noticeable impact UNLESS it's between long rounds, games, etc. It is far from something that affects playability at all, HOWEVER it is a little annoying and there should be better QC for this issue in particular. I have had Lamzu mice do this as well. 2. The shape is being almost insulted here despite the fact that it is 100% marketed for exactly that purpose. I feel it's in bad faith to say the shape is bad/awkward because of the hump, when it's quite literally what the goal is. H stands for hump. I have large hands 21x13 but I prefer smaller mice (usually the Finalmouse small variants) but the hump at the back of this shape keeps the back of my wrist from planting and makes me a better aimer. Thinner sides helps the better aggressive claw from from the regular X2 shape, which I have 3 of. 3. I did not encounter any issues with sensor skipping or anything like that on this mouse at any polling rate, 2mm lift off, and various glass pads or other recent pads I've used (LGG, Freefall, Ember, several Artisans, etc.)

[@jakeufps]

Most likely the issue depends on the batch and the user's environment, for some it is very bad - twitter.com/isnvll/status/1773021714114351506 I did hear many say that it is always at the beginning of their session that they have that issue, but regardless, this shouldn't be an issue on a $100 product when there are similar mice out there for half the price that don't spot such an issue and also provide a much more premium click feel Only because I don't personally enjoy the shape doesn't mean that I am insulting it objectively, I even said several times that if this type of hump is what you are looking for, there is nothing else out there for you but this X2H shape - 13:35 Glad you didn't have any issues when tracking, but I am simply stating my personal experience here with my unit

[@sa17dk]

IMO the x2h hump design needs a lot of polishing. The only people who have been enjoying the x2h are people with huge hands who are desperate for any kind of hump/palm support. There's nothing wrong with that except for everyone else with medium or smaller hands the hump is quite uncomfortable and not thoughtfully designed. I'm all for new shapes but this first iteration of the x2h definitely needs more ergonomic adjustments.

[@WydQuaKe]

I was considering the X2H mini but ended up not getting it bc of QC issues i saw

[@leoclacks]

I bought two x2v2s from the demon slayer collab and was so disappointed about the performance and the qc differences between those two, both had issues and both had issues in different categories! One had tons of post and pretravel+sticky clicks and the other one had terrible slow/muddy feet…

[@glashausAimz2]

i put my x2h mini in black through the ringer with at least 500h in aim trainers and i had exactly 0 of any of these issues... doesn't creek, clicks still good, pretty normal pre travel/post travel compared to v2 pro. and the hump... i kinda like it😅(19x10 hands btw). seen killuminaty recently break some world records on the regular x2h so i am considering getting one just to test the larger shape or maybe the sora if prices come down by a lot here. the more reviews i see about this mouse, the more i feel like i got the only good copy😂

[@jakeufps]

Glad you're able to enjoy yours that much! As I said, if you like this shape, there's nothing else out there for you, and shape is king! If you're coming from a V2 Pro, you're already used to opticals and most likely won't hate these switches as much as somebody who mains mechanical switches, but I'm happy to hear that you got a solid copy 🫡

[@glashausAimz2]

@@jakeufps yeah, my only gripe are the clicks. they could be better, no doubt. but they aren't unuseable or feel horrible. the last mouse i had with mechanicals had double clicking issues under 4ms debounce, that was unuseable. as for the sensor, i tested it on only 4 pads(budget speed pad, venus pro, equate plus v2 and a superglide glas). no tracking issues as far as i am able to tell either. i would consider getting rid of the glas skates as they change too much of the sensor distance due to their thickness. and then there's this issue with black reflective pads(often cordura) that cause a malfunction of the sensor(often older sensors like 3370) without variable liftoff distance or liftoff set to minimum. and then theres the cerapad kin which has all sorts of issues with certain mice. my guess is that it's added thickness of the superglide glass skates and the 2mm lift off isn't enough to compensate the thickness on certain pads.

[@yarek5296]

I sold pulsar X2H and bought VXE R1 PRO. ITS SO MUCH BETTER FOR ITS PRICE

[@brendandh3023]

Same bro the r1 pro shape feels sooo smooth in the hand and the clicks are sick and sub 50 grams 🔥

[@Nadav-f9d]

Can you explain why you prefer the vxe? Also, which mouse has the side buttons more forward into the mouse

[@brendandh3023]

@@Nadav-f9d shape of the r1 is way better for me, making contact with the deep part of my palm without cramps in my hand. Clicks are better and r1’s side buttons are more to the front than the x2h

[@Nadav-f9d]

@@brendandh3023 thank you! Very helpful

[@Ash-of1yl]

Would you guys recommend i upgrade from my logitech g305 to the VXE R1?

[@MrMaxim]

Funny I actually don't mind the sticky clicks and this mouse (along with X2V2) has the best optical implementation in my opinion.

[@obeliskt1024]

8:03 now that I have an x2h mini (shinobu), coming from a BLE x2 mini, I do wish the x2h went away with the hump but I do like the slimmer sides. So for me the perfect iteration for the x2 would be a mini, with x2h slim sides and possibly a lower hump than even the x2 (non-h). weird combination I guess but that's probably what's gonna work best for me. Oh and upgrade to omron opticals, keep the current "indirect scroll wheel" system + dustproof encoders and keep the awesome coating.

[@bgpsbgps1]

X2h mini, x2 mini: personally, I would describe the features of clicks like this: 1. It feels as if the outer edges of the buttons are clinging to the mouse body. 2. Clicks are too dry. In general, I have a very interesting feeling with these mice: it is noticeably inconvenient to play and use them in general, BUT at the same time I would like to... PS. The software conflicts with the Aria XD7 software (they do not start/do not work at the same time).

[@8020Alive]

I own the transparent Toxic color X2H. Indeed the clicks are pretty meh 😢 - but the coating is improved vs original. Tracking thankfully is ok. I think pulsar are too busy with cash grabs and colors and collabs.

[@xadrian23]

I have X2h mini and it is the best for me. I bought so many mice and this was the best. The shape is perfect for my grip. By the way, Pulsar fixed the sticky clicks for the standard x2h mini too. Indeed the clicks are a bit heavier than what I usually like, but the complete package is better for me than for example Atlantis mini, Thorn, Razer Viper or Logitech Superlight X. Thorn is actually a good alternative for me, if I am not playing FPS games. On FPS games, X2H mini is the king.

[@real2fan982]

Are you a palmgrip user i have the lamzu maya and its a lil to flat and lil to smal for my palmgrip stile

[@xadrian23]

@@real2fan982 no, I am a clawgrip user.

[@rfound2567]

Sadly I don't trust Pulsar anymore since I get a quite the terrible batch, battery seems to be draining too quick, double click out of the box, and the plastic feels kindda cheap not gonna lie XD

[@Bloom64-rt5cm]

I took a chance and got the x2h Founders edition and I've had no issue a month in. I of course took it because of the hump since like you said nothing was steep enough. My favorite mouse has always been my favorite but nothing felt like it until I got this one. Hopefully I don't get any issues....

[@gusta5564]

nice review, I was looking to switch off of my old GPX since I wanted a mouse that was better for my grip style. People recommended this mouse to me due to my weird grip (pincer claw), but bc of the qc issues and I’m also not a fan of the weight that much, I thought about getting the Sora V2. But a lot of people said it’s just another generic 3395 100 dollar mouse. So from your personal opinion, do you think I should get the Sora or another mouse that you would recommend? I can also wait for unreleased mice, I’m not in a hurry.

[@Cr9mson]

I mean ive been rocking my bruce lee for awhile and I want to try the high hump but I ended up getting a sora v2 But if the collabs are better versions i just will buy those instead of the red edition’s i wanted

[@skuko1980]

i have the earlier X2H which i fixed the sticky buttons on, i also have a founders edition and acid rewind edition. the latter 2 do not suffer from the sticky buttons.

[@granttcg]

What’s comical is how shortly after the Xlite v3 es was released they were already talking about how the v4 is coming out next year (2024) I don’t buy anything from Pulsar anymore cause all they do is just come out with new or “updated” versions every couple months. Seems like they want to use FOMO to always make it feel like you need every latest iteration from them.

[@UncraftedPlays]

💀

[@echos4240]

I tried a X2H Mini and ended up returning it. Something about the clicks I didnt like. It just felt sooo sticky

[@Ryuugetzu]

After the experience that I got from my first pulsar mouse, X2H Mini (freezing issues with standard and 4k dongle). I'm never buying or touching Pulsar mouse ever again, sorry. I'm going back to Sora 4k or going for Sora v2.

[@TMKM]

i am so glad i bought my dad the r1 instead of the x2a as i originally planned

[@lightningandcloud]

So i got the og x2mini and the x2 transparent. Both had issues after few months at least theyre minor issues. The x2mini under the side buttons for some reason has this tiny bit of flex after like 3 months. The x2 regular size transparent edition after like 5 months the scroll wheel started squeeking when i scroll slowly. I main the mz1 wireless modded anyways lol but whatever. Im designing a 3d printed one for the x2 mini internals for shits and gigs.

[@gregm1855]

Great review as always. What mouse would you recommend for claw grip average sized hands?

[@Bobeeha]

The hump is just absolutely dumb, allowing ZERO micro adjustment and super awkward feelings in the center of my palm(my palm even had some numbness after half an hour of playing). Also mine had insane pretravel on the button and made it unusable before attaching alluminum foil.

[@Bobeeha]

btw WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE THIS VIDEO EARLIER BRO I WASTED 100 DOLLARS ON DIS

[@jakeufps]

I just couldn't get myself to use it, I really dislike the shapes 💀 I'm sorry

[@americasass3674]

You guys just have medium or small hands, this shape feels great to me, I am a palm/claw user as a guy who is 6’3” and 225lbs. But I’m still in the early stages of putting it through its paces. I got a Rengoku edition of the mouse as well for context

[@gmil47]

I hated the feeling of the switches even on the demon slayer shinobu version. I don’t know why they switched all of their products over to such a crappy switch implementation when they had good switches on the Boardzy and RFP versions.

[@spacemanx2]

Tried to go back to my Bruce Lee x2 a few weeks back and had the SAME issues even after LOD tweaks...I also discovered I have a battery issue on mine as well. It's a shame because Pulsar has some solid designs and their other accessories are good but their mice don't hold up :/

[@jeremyniels]

VXE has the same issue, got 4 of them. 2 had sticky switches because of the same goddamn rubbers.

[@gryphn1966]

im a bit late watching this vid. im glad im not the only one that doesnt like this mouse shape i feel like if the rear hump was more narrow or pointed and not as round it may be more enjoyable. even the x2h mini felt to big due to how awkward the hump felt

[@mikerzisu9508]

Have you tried the vaxee np-01s? I just ordered one, need to try it. Have been using light mice for a while now, want to try this one that is a little heavier and the shape could be absolutely goated. I have the x2v2 mini, atlantis mini, maya, aj199, ultralightx medium, hts+ 4k. And many others, but these are the main mice in my rotation at the moment.

[@asddfjkkl]

aqua control pro review soon????

[@iJansport]

Is that a dongle holder at the top left of your mousepad? Omg that is amazing and I've never seen one before

[@eizooo]

damn, you experience is far from mine.. I got the red variant (newer batch) and I love this thing. I don't get any of the m1 and m2 buttons issues, my mini version tracks flawlessly (on glasspad) and the shape for me is perfect haha.. I love the hump because it locks in my grip (relaxed claw and small hand), all the other mice I either feel I don't get a consistent grip or I think the hump is in the wrong place (superlight for ex). From my point of view I wouldn't not recommend pulsar at all, but just don't get their 1st batch products and it's not just a pulsar problem, final mouse also had issues with their 1st batches. I would say get a newer batch x2h medium and see if the problems persist. The x2h mini is too small for your hands, the hump will just hit the wrong spot in your hands.

[@NewtSlugger]

I remember hearing finger gripping the mouse and then clicking the buttons higher up the mouse are harder to press, is that true for you?

[@tommymurrayuk]

When is the Viper V3 PRO releasing?

[@jakeufps]

soon™

[@karp8]

Returned my X2h and mini because of the clicks

[@heroVSzer0]

Interesting, seeing that you dislike it after ive seen so many people absolutely loving the x2h. Still great review!

[@jakeufps]

I think one of the reasons is that Pulsar is getting very big and many people are getting their mice as their first enthusiast gaming mouse, so they might now know what they could be missing out on. But it's safe to say that if you love the shape of the X2H, there is nothing else out there for you. Thank you!

[@wisetone]

What do you think of the Zaopin Z2 4K vs the new Pulsar X2H?

[@matufamenulis8527]

i got the mouse and the one thing that made me buy superlight 2 is the clicks. it seems like i need twice as much force to click and thats really bad for fps game like cs2.

[@lonelymartian1999]

Sold my X2H Mini a couple months ago. It just felt inconsistent and I was losing my mind. I found a second hand gwolves htx ace for 20 dollar but it has a problem with the scroll wheel. Do you reckon it’s a good buy if I grab it and fix it myself?

[@jakeufps]

definitely, replacing a scroll encoder is super easy if you know soldering basics

[@PatientZERO100]

Damn, that's a shame to hear cuz I have both the X2H and Xlite V3 and they're two of my favorite mice in my collection so far. I guess I just got lucky...

[@itxchi_trplsix]

The fact that most if not ALL pulsar mice have this weird skate border makes me sick. It artificially makes your skates thinner and will scrape your mousepad later. This is some RVM plastic ring kind of shit. Huge L

[@v.1triol]

What's the other mouse on the Pad?

[@jakeufps]

Zaopin Z2

[@Nymiaz]

Didn't know these mice were so bad.

[@gimmegimmechicken]

I like the hump shape on this, I have tried the xm2we but it wasn’t enough. Is it safe to buy a model off Amazon rn or is it still the old batch?

[@leoclacks]

Is this still recorded on your phone???? The quality is insane yet again!

[@UncraftedPlays]

yup! bro still only uses his phone and puts others to shame 💀

[@leoclacks]

@@UncraftedPlays that‘s wild ngl

[@Drengr_TV]

We have the same hand size, What kinda mouse would you reccomend for Palm grip and in any budget(i can spend any) and Also a recomendation for mousepad for mainly cs2 no budget Also!

[@real2fan982]

Hallo i use to use the super light and palm grip it never got the right feel to it got the lamzu maya i Palm grip it and it feels lil flat and lital small butt still one of the best mouse i tride is the x2h mini a good stile on what im loking for

[@c0ffeefather]

The point of the H series is to be more niche tho??

[@444chroma]

Love my X2h mini. 😘😘

[@Daniel-ye1ss]

How is the shape compared to the mm710? it seems to be simliar

[@kibikibikom]

Waizowl Cloud or WLmouse Beast X, if you could only main 1 mouse?

[@DawnK204]

I order the X2h Fr2 i hope there will be good 😢

[@UncraftedPlays]

Most likely, since you're sure it's the absolute latest revision

[@DawnK204]

Yeh it's the newest One !

[@hafizkadir9172]

Hai, right now i'm using logitech 305 and i want to upgrade my mouse. Did you think lamzu maya is the best upgrade?

[@user-xi9ft6zx7w]

Have you tried the za13c?

[@ttpptn9807]

Just bought an X2H mini a week ago, hopefully it's from newer batches that has been patched already 🙏

[@UncraftedPlays]

You should probably be fine buying it this late 👍

[@BrutalCathiter]

just got mine today because a microcenter employee recommended it. its heading right back. Is in the clear colorway and looks cool but its still the v1 model. Micro center stay winning. I should have known with the amount they have and never herd of them.

[@ad-nz5hk]

are there any mice similar to x2h/x2v2 i actually like these shapes somewhat mainly the x2h but my clicks are messed up on x2h after 1/2 weeks and x2v2 is not the best for my grip cause of the flatter sides compared to the x2h

[@ad-nz5hk]

i personally fingertip so i don’t even utilize the hump i just like the flared out sides which is comfortable for me

[@lazkycs]

When you use your personal preference over technical specs you get these videos

[@Vakushka]

i swear everytime i think.. HAH! I found it.. finally.. im about to order... then I see "nope" .. sigh.

[@ApparentlyPeter]

Well looks like i'm not buying a pulsar mouse

[@thejacksito]

ahhh, it’s because he didn’t get them sent to him is why he is saying they are “bad mice” 🤡 remember: when he gets them for free / sent to him, they’re “great mice” 🤣

[@Dubulcle]

You didn't watch the video

[@gwood3070]

*promo sm* 🎊

[@leoclacks]

AC PRO AC PRO AC PRO

[@kunawyd]

first

[@JohnJohnningJohnson]

These mice are genuinely horrible to use in my hands humble subjective opinion