Norbert Mueller describes his wave disk generator

Michigan State University associate professor of mechanical engineering Norbert Mueller describes his Wave Disk Generator, for which he has received a $2.5 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy to build a prototype new engine and generator technology that can dramatically improve efficiencies and reduce costs of electric hybrid vehicles.

[@lomasck]

After studying Pulse Jet engines I came to realize that shock waves are needed for it to run & found it burns much cleaner & better because of Shock waves.Everyone knows Pulse Jets are to basic to mount to much but I realize this man has cracked the answer to all other petrol engines problems.Well done buddy!!.If you want to see how important shock waves are just watch a Pulse Jet engine Run.

[@johnathansmith3819]

@chris lomas - Jah... We in Germany used shock vaves on enemies... Dat really werked.

[@viktord1]

I agree! It could probably power a light motorcycle too. Electric is definitely taking over in cars though. At least 90% thermal efficiency, high and consistent torque. Only thing that's lacking is solid battery technology.

[@kingofthepaupers]

Jct: Bravo. What a wonderful breakthrough. It would be nice to read how it came about. But what a wonderful improvement in efficiency!

[@rmarbertin8131]

No energy wasted constantly reversing the inertia of pistons. I like it :)

[@stanimal8]

Very interesting. Does it have a narrow efficient RPM and or load range? Quality or types of fuel?

[@unklewillard6402]

I agree with Nitrozzy. I liked hearing about the application and all, but being a mechanical engineer myself, I'm DYING to know how it works.

[@rmarbertin8131]

I think it has to do with the curves of the compartment walls. The shockwave uniformly hits the side convex to the ignition point, while the other side mostly deflects.

[@t5239857289578947594]

I hope this really has people with good intentions behind it.We need this now.

[@Stephenishere]

@Harboggles We need something to bridge us to that point too. We do not have the means to have a total switch off of gas right now.

[@artenman]

Thanks for the random plant shot... 2:25

[@RawFoodKevin]

@CommunityBuildersSB That was the rotary engine called the Wankel or Wankle. It just wasn't as good as the standard ICE and still required a radiator, transmission, etc.

[@kawalangdalawahan]

is this engine able to be connected to a drive shaft to drive the wheels and power a car on its own? does it have enough power and torque to do so?

[@deadflagbluesxxx]

@Nitrozzy7 If it's pushing out the same amount of energy as a conventional energy, with 3.5 times the fuel efficiency, it has to sound beautiful. If it sounds weird, we can always turbocharge it. Beautiful.

[@kishes]

This is really fantastic. I hope these engines can be produced and replace internal combustion. Yes, there are huge obstacles from Big Oil, but with enough effort and perhaps public support, this invention will make it through those roadblocks! Don't be sad that this is being invented "instead of" fully electric cars becoming the norm. Right now, most of our electricity comes from coal, so electric cars aren't all that clean. Efficiency is better until we convert to renewable electricity.

[@tantamounted]

Hello from Jan 2021, over 16 years from the earliest article referenced on Wikipedia for this device (from Nov 2004). Is this device being used anywhere in the world right now? It was supposedly still being researched in 2017...

[@GeorgeOu]

@konatv Didn't you hear what the professor said? He said they were working on a 25 kilowatt version which translates to about 35 horsepowers. What do you think a tank general would say to 35 horsepowers?

[@bbruno00]

@garyroxene It won the engine of the month on the October 2011 Popular Mechanics magazine : ). At the end of the article it says that they are receiving a 2.5 million grant (i'll guess a new one). And "Muller plans to have a 35 - hp unit running this year". : )

[@franciscorompana2985]

Never to see again!!!😭

[@MacNerfer]

@garyroxene - there was a media splash in March 2011 (including CNN), then not much since then. I'm guessing they're working on the 35 HP prototype. Probably won't hear much until they get it working (assuming they do).

[@elryanoo]

@seethebob Actually the space pen was made independently unfunded by nasa. Paul Fisher sold it to both space programs.

[@Jabberdau]

Probably gonna end up somewhere in a collection with all the others - the bajulaz six stroke engine, the 25 year lightbulb, einsteins refrigerator , Teslas free energy invention and so on.

[@tecnoblix]

@Flashr2 I would love the name of the company and car that you are talking about. It's well past time for an engine revolution.

[@ronarmstrong835]

I would love to see this combined with GEET.

[@spiritweird]

I would like to see this working, and if possible would like to try and see how it stacks up as a generator as well!

[@tooby98765]

This was uploaded in 2009. Where is it now...??

[@graveeking]

Well if he puts in production cheaply enough he can DEFINITELY see me driving this in 3 years time (now 2years). I really hope this works out for him! This is the exact kind of thing I'd want to use.

[@borthwey]

This engine is not designed to drive a car but only to power batteries. A car using this engine would rely only on electric engines for propulsion. It would be just like a Chevrolet Volt with a different backup engine. Electric engines by the way, offer very high and immediate torque, which is one of the things that make them more pleasant to drive.

[@popedummy9239]

@vtzc Where did you hear this? Is it the same Norbert Mueller?

[@kucam12mischablue]

please send me a link or something, i can't find any news about it.

[@Pogo523]

There are other engines in the works that may do as well as this one; there is a definate advantage to operating at a constant velocity and having no drive train, this type of engine could be scaled for buses or train as well. Since this engine burns fuel it still does pollute.

[@williamhayes6210]

Where is it or the ARPA findings ?

[@asg611]

did a little research on this...it seems that thing he's holding isn't a working prototype, just a prop basically. this video is on the concept of the engine which they received funding for in 2009 to build a prototype. since then, they've build a model and have been showing it off, which is why the story has re-emerged in the news.

[@dusthat]

@bufbarnaby Yes, you're right. That's why Mueller got a $2.5 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy. It all makes sense.

[@robaxa1]

Nice speech. Can we see the engine turning a load please?

[@bublycat]

This video is already over 2 years old... so what happened?

[@torment3d]

@UnkleWillard haha yeah - but that stuff won't be divulged until they get it manufactured.

[@ESPPsycho]

I want to see it run

[@lushfauna]

Um maybe it's weak like a stirling engine, no pouwwa- Does it got some HP?

[@tenderscootch]

I emailed him about a year ago, he said that if the get all the funding they need a 25kw prototype could be produced in a year.

[@kidgloves2]

@1stap02 You could burn hydrogen extracted from solar electrolysis of water. And you would need to carry less hydrogen since the engine is more efficient and the vehicle is lighter.

[@TheNoCoincidence]

2009? So ? what happened since then?

[@Flashr2]

@dpattiris youtube doesnt allow to paste direct links in the comments, u have to copy and paste em manually to adress bar of ur browser.

[@seanonymous]

Any news on this prototype?

[@kayanlau]

Russ, you need to take down the background noise a lot. I can hardly hear Mueller's speech.

[@Joe11Blue]

@whopperding Do know the IPO information if there is any? Is he planning on taking this private?

[@commandersprocket]

OK, so this is really cool primarily because it could burn any fuel, the other stuff is cool but being flexible fueled is a really big deal. Most of our mileage gains(the next doubling or two) will be made by making cars lighter and more aerodynamic. Year 2000 car designs (hypercar) exist that get 100mpg but there are none on the road because car companies are afraid to make the jump from metals (low material cost, high machining cost) to composites (high material cost, low machining cost).

[@0djin]

This man is a wizard

[@slucas601]

@konatv I second that! I guess in the "new economy" of bailouts, $2.5M just doesn't go as far as it used to.

[@MtnXfreeride]

@therealjamesgardner well, there isnt much to this story but the little thing in his hand. No prototype shown or real engine model yet. I think this story was made a bit too soon.

[@DerMacko]

@cashstore1 oct 29, 2009 thats only a year and a half

[@rayunseitig]

Sounds good. Thanks

[@baronsekiya7936]

They've only gotten $2.5M for this?!? Someone needs to show this to an Army general and tell them, 'With this engine your tanks will go 3 times farther and carry more weapons. That should green-light at least $1B in funding.

[@Dragon029]

@smiles1969able In the future they will be, but until we have the infrastructure, this will make a brilliant stop-gap. This engine is apparently 60% efficient; normal engines are 15% and all-electric vehicles are 95%.

[@unambitious]

I don't see how a gas turbine is an emerging technology. It's different in some regards, but I can't see how 2.5 mil wouldn't cover a prototype. The engine isn't much more than what he had in his hand. It's a single stage compressor with a valve (valve not shown) that shuts periodically to create increased pressure and force from the combustion. The force or shock wave then drives the compressor. Just can't see why nothing really came of it for that kind of money...

[@kidgloves2]

Thumbs up if you would like some kind of update from Norbert!

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

its 3years or so now whats the word?

[@kobyhall]

Research before you comment. This device is still in the developmental stages and is still favored by US government funding amoung other interests and contributors. Here is an interview from Michigan State University Oct. 2011: (won't let me put web address here), so websearch: 'Michigan State University Alumni Association' and when on their actual site type in "The Wave Of The Future" to get to the actual article. Let's hope 'the powers that be' keep interested and MOVE ON THIS!

[@viktord1]

It might make 25kW, but keep in mind that number is probably at very high rpm, meaning torque numbers will be miserable.

[@tebmenja]

Ingenious

[@BlackSupraC2]

@Chnamanjx its amazing how our technology evolves so fast, yet humanity as a whole inevitably creates itself speed-bumps, so that the human spirit catches up as well. A world without conflict and chaos is absolutely boring.

[@ganojininternationallimite7228]

I will like to see it running,can it also function here in Africa.

[@SelvaPeluda]

CAN WE HAVE THIS NOW PLEASE? D:

[@varunkirti7470]

Would be a really great idea to be implemented in two wheeler..!!

[@coyoteshark]

The Turbo-encabulator comes to mind. Where can I get grant-money like that, I have a revolutionary vessel design that uses the wind to propel it...........

[@zx6rtt]

don't know if this guy is blowing smoke or not.... if it is such a simple design, why haven't we seen a working prototype yet?

[@Wakkajakka]

@Nitrozzy7 My theory is it sounds like a top taking off.

[@cashstore1]

@DerMacko My error. I would like to see a working engine. I have not found a video yet. Seems like it would be an easy thing to do. I actually hope this succeeds, but seeing is believing.

[@CarpeMetus]

Isn't Angel Labs LLC working on something that at least looks more impressive than the paper weight he is holding?

[@Mikeco66]

watching this video and seeing the interior of this space begs for an "Office" type show, depicting frustrated grad student struggling under the immense demands of the Associate Professor and his odd accent.Could be HILARIOUS..

[@Harboggles]

@SevenSixTwoNato They want it to be released, it allows them to keep using Gasoline for many years to come prolonging the problem...

[@CTimmerman]

That's the problem with getting funded, but tax money largely isn't the government's.

[@RonPartridgex]

I'd like to see it running - in a car with me at the wheel and the ownership certificate in my pocket! This would reduce emissions in the greatest contributor of CO2 by maybe 70%. We can't just take the passive view that the oil and auto industries wouldn't allow it, and we should find some way of alleviating the employment implications. There is too much at stake to hang back.

[@MatthewHyslop]

Thumbs up if he looks like Harrison Ford.

[@tom53332]

lol, this was in the news today as a new revolution, and now I see it's already 1,5 years old, that must be the slowest reporter in the world

[@CTimmerman]

Also, that didn't exist yet in this video.

[@kawalangdalawahan]

actually they tested it and they said its more economical than a conventional piston engine...idk, theyre probably gonna terminate it altogether.

[@CTimmerman]

1:44 3.5 times less fuel consumptions than current (2009) hybrid cars.

[@DrewTriebe]

@neocon70 Patented you mean.

[@JustLetMeComment80]

This is more useful as a generator, I think. Could be used to power a very powerful electric motor, though.

[@tamfang]

@bublycat -- a year and a half, you mean

[@bublycat]

@cjbryan277 Where the hell did I say that it should be used for war?!?

[@EFDragon]

@konatv Well, considering they didn't even show up with more advanced types or even PARTIALLY working prototypes, you can assume that it didn't have enough throughput versus consumed energy. Throwing 1 billion at a prototype that he directly stated at 0:37 that they gained efficiency by theory would be blatantly moronic. Yes this means testing was involved, but not much considering there are no direct numbers to compare, nor which type of energy is fueling it, so there is little to go on.

[@Flashr2]

Actually u can buy a new russian car based on such engine in like 2 month. The announced price is about 15000$.

[@coyoteshark]

@Drjusmar Rudolph Diesel died under mysterious circumstances. Also ran his invention on Peanut oil/ Biodiesel.

[@tenderscootch]

As far as I know the only major source of money they got was the 2.5m frov the gov. Not really very much for an emerging technology.

[@Harboggles]

@Stephenishere I disagree. Hemp.

[@Randomynous01]

Germans inventing everything since mankind... also.. thank you for Roboclean.

[@EmanueleNusca]

MAYBE there are some other issues to bring the product into the market and is NOT because competitors, that are more or less few thousands........

[@peon47]

the audio on this video is sooo bad

[@DrewTriebe]

@morph995 Small steps.

[@RayGettings]

Kinda sounds like the Mazda rotary engine

[@eveningmistonwater]

what a coincidence in about a year i'll be looking for a new car.....now why aren't we using these yet???

[@fade1283]

wow, think of all the gas we have wasted for over a hundred years because we didn't design an engine as efficient as this one

[@Qriator]

If I were a betting man, I would bet that this never pans out. Looks like a perpetual motion machine from the 1900's. It would only cost a few bucks to put together a prototype to test the concept's claims, if it's such a simple design. Also, combustion without need for a radiator or other cooling system? That makes me even more skeptical.

[@ErickRomero1]

Hands up if you got here from the Escapist!

[@douglashagan65]

We are working on the way this generator this is like similar to a tilted wheel through space in other words like a f-15 closes it's flaps indicates if it is can go up or down or sideways left or right this is because of the flaps are tilted which gives it a new trajectory this is what supplied to rockets is the tilted wheel effect which allows it to travel through gravitational tunnels in other words the planet's gravitational fields are traveling in a tilt the wheel effect so if the rockets after space at the same effect as if you're going around the planet itself it has an effect but without the gravity out there it creates its own gravitational tunnels once it gets near other planet orbits it picks up that gravitational pull through the tilted wheel effect which has an effect of propelling it through the universe from one planet to another or object to object through gravitational tunnels this is a breakthrough in space physics

[@kraigthorne]

@konatv If they said it runs on corn the congress would give them five billion

[@luiseduardo586]

Deutsche technik, natürlich...

[@vardarac]

From this angle, it looks like a paperweight that enables you to draw the attention from the media.

[@Cloxxki]

If the US give money for technology, it's almost sure to be harmless to big bizz, CO2 credit scheme, etc.

[@livdinion]

that's not accurate again.If you take an engine and put it in a car that weighs 3.5 less that engine will consume at least 2 times less fuel.I am asking what is the efficiency of the engine not in the fuel consumption but in how much of the fuel burnt is actually transformed in work.