Norman McLaren - Dots (1940)

[@yfoog]

Can't believe how advanced this was for the time. Sounds like legit electronic music hahah

[@BenKirb]

He did a technique for the sound called "pen point percussion". He drew on the right side of 35mm magnetic sound film. Here's the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2HZmI2slK-KnK8

[@andrewbreazna]

Uhhhhh optical sound film you mean?

[@Birdie2927]

Check put the dance of the crow aniamtion!

[@torker24]

its amazing how he actually drew on the film and made these dots and stuff appear. He even drew his own audio track by drawing an audio line onto the film. theres another guy named pierre drouin who used needles to poke film and make a sort of grid picture. i dont think any of his stuff is on youtube, though.

[@ponstan13]

Just in case anybody wants to see Drouin's work: his name is Jacques Drouin, not Pierre, And there's tons of his stuff here. Start with "Mindscape", it offers a good introduction on Drouin's work. Apparently his main animation technique is through "pinscreen" which is actually sand on a back lit glass pane where the movement of the image is created by moving small amounts of sand (with a pin) in order to get a general movement frame by frame. It would be nice to be able to do this with pixels ^^

[@juliawagner8552]

Bless you. I loved the pin screen but didn't know how to search for it.

[@geoffreypiltz271]

Thanks tons.

[@Kanadianas]

The guy invented electronic music in the 40's

[@NotMe-nt9im]

Kanadianas Crazy to think that you wrote this comment, unaware of what was to come next. At that time 2019 was too far off in the future to even think about, and yet here we are... with a random stranger writing a long ass reply to a random comment you made almost a decade ago. Lol ik this is random, but it’s crazy to see bits and pieces of the past and think abt how different it must’ve been.

[@penelopepegg7834]

@@NotMe-nt9im 6 months guy from the past, how are you now?

[@NotMe-nt9im]

Penelope Pegg Well I’m still here as lazy as ever with quarantine, thx for asking lol. Hope ur also doing well

[@DrRestezi]

Is anyone watching this right now? I mean RIGHT NOW! Cuz I shure as hell am.

[@NotMe-nt9im]

DrRestezi lol I don’t rlly watch this daily or anything but i do see the occasional comment. hope ur doing well in these stressful times, 7 months ago I would’ve never imagined the world would’ve ended up like this. But hey, ur here! Nice to see ya😂

[@hi-hk2zv]

This man definitely new what timing was, i'm an animator and have many resources now to help with timing he didn't have. He's awesome! love begone dull care, so well done, its my fav

[@rjb0572]

Hi

[@peteypablo55555]

This is really important to the creative process of film-making

[@silenthill7334]

peter boye yes

[@dnc23x]

micro-click minimal-house, 70 years before it even started =)

[@m4gdelen4]

This could easily pass for a Minilogue video haha!

[@tadefonk]

this is micro click minimal experimental, but it has no house in it

[@jingleskhanaudioproductions]

^^

[@JohnBeegPapaGardener]

Knowing how this is made this is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time

[@DigiFootageFX]

Very interesting and inspiring stuff! Very ahead of his time. I do similar animations with modern software, and this was an inspiration.

[@坂上陰三]

こんなにシンプルに空間と動きを表現できていることがすごいな。 青は衝突し、跳ね返り、左右へ、上下へ、前後へ落下する。そしてそれらはシームレスに移行する。赤一色の背景が見る人に継ぎ目を認識させない。 それでも何が起きているかを理解することができる。

[@stephenindc9102]

This was done before computers ... before WWII. A great experiment.

[@biggus8158]

World War 2 had already begun the previous year

[@ابوسارةابوسارة-ز6د]

هذة العملية الابداعية الصناعية الذى صنعها الانسان دون يدرى انها ستحقق من ابداعها الكثير دون يدرى ان صناعة الافلام الكرتوتية مبدعة حقيقية لابد ان تنتشر لانها بمسابة علاج نفسى لاكثر البشر نحو الطفولة التى حرمنا منها ونحن صغار لذلك الجميع يذهب اليها فى صمت تام ........ ❤❤❤❤ ‏‪1:38‬‏

[@unknowndes1re]

ها

[@ابوسارةابوسارة-ز6د]

ها

[@MageryWiz]

after effects v0,1940

[@veronicavero9498]

McLaren was a Canadian Pioneer of Experimental and Cartoon Movies

[@ShuuC]

Watched this in a modular theatre, a couple of days ago. Had to rewatch. God, this is trippy, but one of the most amazing things ever.

[@PunmasterSTP]

Dots a really good animation! 👍

[@tandy5811]

the fact that this was made during ww2 is absolutely amazing

[@vonbontee]

I can't believe those sounds weren't created by a Moog! McLaren was some kinda genius alright.

[@hfhehdhwhhahshhauwunsnammw6790]

If you want to find ocmments that are 8 years ago, you've come to the right place!

[@thunderpeel2001]

Sounds exactly like my old ZX Spectrum... How did he managed that in 1940?

[@ThisGuyFrritz]

He did it by drawing lines on the soundtrack.

[@DrRestezi]

True story. It hurts to think about about it, but that's actually how he did it.

[@poughkeepsiejohn1]

How many animators today, aside from Bill Plympton, do their own animation by hand by themselves with no CGIs? This is incredible!

[@rwall514]

Probably a fair few, but I don't know of anyone else who DRAWS the soundtrack to their films.

[@homesca]

Can't beleive this thing was made in 1940. That's fuckin unbelievable.

[@EnterTheMold]

the godfather of techno!!!

[@daniiiiiiiiii5809]

Incrível que se hj vc fazer isso num fl studio da vida não é nada. Mas escutando isso sobreposto à época em que foi criado... Tudo. Porém me lembra SOPHIE. Então é alguma coisa. A prova de que sempre poderemos desenvolver coisas incríveis e novas.

[@Sorayaji]

1940 ????

[@davidvandervegte]

impressive, when you know that every sound was made by scratching the audio-track, master of mechanical/technical expirimentation whith the celluloid medium

[@elixorvideos]

Norman McLaren: The Original Dubstep

[@tonyboneful]

Thank gorde again for Chris Knox hooking me on to this brilliant dude.

[@jarblewarble]

It sounds a lot like an analog synthesizer.

[@djvskakdgsjxgdoe]

im investigating this right now and yes, this was one of the inspirations for synthesizers, but they were created over 20 years after this was made! this man was REALLY ahead of his time

[@dr.intellectual]

Telling my kids this was Aphex Twin

[@OfficialNitroPulse]

Is that a synthesizer? How the fuck . Such an amazing animation job

[@SonicYM2612]

Actually, Norman McLaren would physically draw the the soundtrack on the optical sound portion of his films!

[@Cricriiii]

He would draw the sinusoid ?

[@prod.impherno]

It sounds like farting spits. If you have seen the move Treasure Planet it sounds like that fart language.

[@cesarandrade1987]

What kind of software did you use man?

[@isaacstephanomunguiahernan3273]

César Andrade Nothing :)

[@aromalrays6530]

:55-1:10 is some proto_Aphex Twin material

[@Soulwatcher56]

0:54-1:11 - a VERY early trance music! ❤️

[@wherestherealsky]

The fact that the soundtrack is manipulated film is amazing.

[@krautgazer]

THAT WAS WONDERFUL!

[@lolvi9094]

No se pero amo los sonido que se usan para esto extrañamente....

[@KyleAButler]

Can't wait for dots 2.

[@rajeshk3699]

..

[@foketesz]

@leongeyer well, actually yes, but it always sounds presumptuous and cerebral. This sounds like the result of an inspirational process, and that's what's touching about it...

[@Eye-am-Metalchip]

So this is what early Canadian animation looked like 😍

[@vfnk]

incredible!!!!!!!!!

[@kicksmartjumpstick9889]

big chungus was contemporary to this

[@Ideasquevalelapenadifundir]

genio de la animación. no hubo cámaras involucradas y, la música de los cortometrajes fue hecha manipulando la sección de audio de la cinta.

[@GeoCloset]

@torker24 Hi, can't find nothing about pierre drouin, could you give me some links ?

[@L0RDK3Y]

spinnin records before its time

[@MegaspelYT]

@jasarm He didn't actually scratch the soundtrack into the film by hand.

[@devanganabose9119]

Brilliant stuff.

[@aidanyakymyshyn9636]

electronic music before electronic music

[@marlletrose5503]

Geniale!

[@RuggeroMantovani]

thanks!

[@shelltheobjectthingy327]

Norman McLaren doing these movies kind of looking like the 60s enough.

[@モダンポンチョ]

凄いなあ…

[@vdeckardv]

absolutely a classic.

[@leongeyer]

@foketesz : actually isnt for the means it is made. But yes to aesthetics - when do you think appeard abstract music? 1990s? have you heard music of the time here first electric means where used? Even before that years

[@livinagoodlife]

I loved the when the drop hit

[@memelord4411]

Thunderdome 90s slowed

[@sebastianbermudez4081]

Looks like synth image and sound but those were not even a thing, all was made on film, crazy!

[@Cjdisncucjdns]

Is there anyone who can explain how things work?

[@thelionkingisthebestmovie8808]

Well you see, this was drawn onto the film of audio, and that's why it was timed so well!

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

If someone would port this onto an 8-bit computer as a demo...

[@RA984U]

what thom yorke song is this

[@postironiac]

3D in 1940

[@urfdragon]

@SirSinister Yes he did. Watch the video Pen Point Percussion.

[@luciavijande]

Amazing

[@WeskerXM96E1]

So just hang on a second. While WWII is going on some fella in Canada is "inventing" this i?

[@zealwarriorgaming5315]

Johnathan Coates, ikr

[@zincnims9514]

Ikr, He should have participated in the war and shed some blood too. That's a MUCH better thing to do.

[@meooowww3672]

Zinc Λnims no

[@m_tmt_m]

@@zincnims9514 no

[@berkany.476]

@@zincnims9514 it's sarcasm but still no

[@ismbc09ers]

gotta love his stuff

[@DangerEye]

The first motion graphics ever

[@Moccigatto]

- HM just a random abstract animation. *see the publication date : AYO W-

[@aliffnaufal6115]

*headbang to the beat lesgoo

[@ponstan13]

never mind the sand part, I mixed it up with another artist: Caroline Leaf. Damn, canadians are crazy!

[@zoggo6225]

*is this the dlc of conway's game of life?*

[@ivanc3176]

Flatulence: The Movie

[@ae756]

My thought the whole fuckin film. Lol

[@dancingplanet]

totally awesome

[@NitramZiarreh]

not sure whether this would qualify as electronic music or musique concrète though :D

[@Aleebi]

This was made in the 1940s???? Holy shit.

[@kinokogalya]

This is my brain when I wait for the tram

[@SantiagoRevecoLepeReborn]

Early anime sounds in the 40's

[@indelaxiom]

Early, early electronic music!!

[@rsstnnr76]

This makes me think of the notes played at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

[@UndMasMut]

Have just seen the origins of dubstep O-O!?!?!?!?!?

[@davidlincolnbrooks]

Amazingly forward-thinking for 1940!

[@PietroOliveira]

Sinestesia pura!!

[@ivahedableful]

greatness

[@AnnanyaGeorge]

This is sick

[@prod.impherno]

It sounds like distorted spits- Am I wrong?

[@Setherian]

Proto IDM? ;)

[@kamui411]

este lo vi en Locomotion!!!. Los ultimos Locotomias que hubo

[@Marasmatique]

1940 minimal.

[@Mantreetime]

Hanno già fatto tutto in epoche passate...siamo solo miscele ormai e questo video è l'ennesima fottuta prova

[@torker24]

@GeoCloset You know, I've been looking, and I can't find anything either. Maybe I have the name wrong; I know I read a little thing about him in this DK book. If I get anything, I'll let you know.

[@wigwagstudios2474]

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS FROM 1940 SOMEONE EXPLAIN I AM DYTIGHNIOERTG YOBIMJKKITK9OITFNJK9O0IFN

[@wigwagstudios2474]

He draws on the sound part lol

[@ValisAttitude]

BOSS

[@jordanbarrett1391]

Beatboxing?

[@leongeyer]

@obrazov : dont forget that futursimo is inside of a time with a lot of diferent directions. It would be wrong to say that it is only son of futurismo, maybe you want to say one of his parents may be futurismo, as like other movements of that times (suprematism, abstracionism, surrealism, dadaism), or parents of also futurismo. But definitvely, futurism one of the most influyents in that times.

[@rjb0572]

Very interesting 😂

[@grilllca]

exactly :)

[@leongeyer]

@obrazov : dont forget that futursimo is inside of a time with a lot of diferent directions. It is worng to say that it is only son of futurismo, maybe you want to say one of his parents may be futurismo, as like other movements of that times (suprematism, abstracionism, surrealism, dadaism), or parents of also futurismo. But definitvely, futurism one of the most influyents in that times.

[@MitchCyan]

I liked the part when there were dots.

[@walpoleandworcester]

The Jetsons before The Jetsons existed!

[@chairshoe81]

swag

[@choccocker]

Pov: Just shapes and Beats gameplay