Northern Irish Unionists visit The Republic of Ireland, 1973

Part 2 - • Northern Irish Unionis...
Protestant couples from Belfast in Northern Ireland travel south to spend time in the Republic of Ireland and experience life across the border.
The six Unionist couples are: Fred and Molly Otley, Sam and Ann Egerton, Alfie and Elsie Large, Bill and Betty Brown, Alec and Ella Hill and Jim and Anne Smith.
Will seeing life over the border and meeting the people there change some preconceived ideas?
Twenty-nine year old Fred Otley and his wife Molly live in west Belfast. Fred is a lorry driver with Harland and Wolff.
Before the Troubles ever started I had a good relationship with down south, so much so I went down there as pipe bands, I’m a pipe band man. Now I wouldn’t put my foot in it, normally, only for this programme.
Sam Egerton has lived all his life in east Belfast. His father worked in a shipyard and he has relations are in the Ulster Defence Association (UDA). Sam has
Become more hardened towards men of violence on both sides.
His wife Ann does not take much interest in politics and finds she disagrees with her husband on some points but
Otherwise I would just sit and listens and take it all in.
Alfie Large is an Orangeman from Ravenhill Road area of Belfast.
It’s not the south I fear, it’s the people who are wanted up here, that have gone down south and they’re safe down there.
His wife Elsie grew up without any idea of differences between Protestant and Catholics.
The first time I ever learnt the word Fenian was when I started to go with my husband.
Bill Brown was born and raised in the Shankill Road in west Belfast.
I always believed there was always a certain amount of animosity towards the Northern people both Protestant and Catholic, because the Northern Ireland people are different although the Northern Catholic tries the retain the same cultural background as their counterpart in the south.
His wife Betty is a proud Ulster woman who does not think the south has any jurisdiction over her. She is convinced people in the Republic have no freedom.
You haven’t the freedom to think, you’re a puppet on a string, you can’t even read a dirty book. I’m not advocating that you do read a dirty book but if I wanted to read one I don’t think anybody should tell me not to. I’m not afraid of republicanism.
Alec Hill is a fitter by trade who takes an interest in his trade union and the Orange Order.
I have been down south not dozens but hundreds of times prior to all these Troubles.
His wife Ella was raised to respect the Queen.
Jim Smith believes the Catholic church
Exerts far too great an influence, not only over it’s only members, but also over other religious groupings who happen to be a minority.
His wife Anne leaves politics to her husband and is looking forward to her first trip down south although
I expect to find an awful lot of poverty but there again as I say I might be wrong.
‘Down There’ was broadcast on 12 July 1973. The reporter is Tom McGurk.

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[@lawrencesmith7009]

Yes

[@ghowe79]

Are there any more parts to this.

[@tonemc6047]

He’s 29 ? Christ he must have had a tough paper round .

[@rebjorn79]

Looks 46 at best

[@raftonpounder6696]

I was thinking exactly the same thing!

[@seanolaocha940]

@@rebjorn79 Jaysus even 46 is being kind

[@conorgallagher313]

Paper round in Chernobyl by the looks of things

[@cheiftain732]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rivolinho]

When the 29 year old fella left home, he told his father, "You're the man of the house now!"

[@RonSill1986]

😂😂😂

[@MsRichycon]

😅🤣

[@brazil8426]

🤣🤣🤣

[@SuperTonyony]

29!? Jesus! Does he have Methusela syndrome?

[@f.b508]

😂😂😂

[@ruairimaguire220]

They say Ulster as if Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan don't exist

[@13strange67]

Do they ? !

[@itsmesoitis4059]

6+3=1

[@lewiswatson3503]

poor protestant boys very uneducated

[@padruigmacrodain]

Damn right Mr. Maguire. More power to ya. I am a Munsterman and a Corkman with relations in Monaghan and Fermanagh and a surname out of Donegal. Every time the Six Counties of Northern Ireland are referred to as Ulster I want to bang someone's head against a map.

[@ruairimaguire220]

@@padruigmacrodain ha, good way of putting it

[@user-ox8ui7zm7j]

Your man's fair shook for 29.

[@Dreyno]

Hate will do that to you.

[@nightrunk]

@M F I'd say your right. Sad really how it was back then.

[@Hipit55]

@M F so true

[@Chilavertish]

Lovely to see a nice bit of hiberno English in KZbin comments 👍

[@johnmccarron3479]

Big bitter head on him.😂

[@blackarrow5218]

Yes looks like a 29 year old of the era. Try atin’ half a dozen sody bread with sausage bacon and eggs followed by 8 pints of Bass and a fish supper for tea every day and see how you look.

[@clundgeweep]

Sody bread😂

[@gerardmcauley2822]

😂😂😂 bunch of clowns , sad thing is their offspring are the next generation of the hatred we see of today, its always the Republicans, Catholics, they have no trust whatsoever in anyone with a different view....and cannot believe that guy is 29 😂😂

[@jamesonpatrolagain6975]

29 fcukin hell, tough paper round

[@danielbuxton4493]

Stop it, my mouth's waterin'!

[@softdaythankgod2524]

Cookstown, ye can't have a sausage without a sizzle!

[@senorcoonster]

I want to see a birth certificate for that man.

[@merrybutcher2978]

When he was killed in '88 he was aged 44 .

[@merrybutcher2978]

@@anthonyjames4247 Bullets.

[@bright9187]

@@anthonyjames4247 IRA car bomb.

[@pipingbob720]

Fkin paddy losty genes on him

[@anfieldreds_1892]

@@merrybutcher2978 how and why was he killed

[@brazil8426]

The 29 year old looks old enough to be his own granda

[@gizzajobla]

That was a mad 7 minutes for me. Started off thinking it was a parody for the first minute almost waiting for an audience laugh then quickly sobering up to how real it was. Am I the only one who thinks it's utterly tragic how people on this island have been led their whole lives by religion, government and monarchy, none of which could care less about the people on this bus? Depressing stuff

[@chrisclark1761]

I agree. They feel that the Catholic Church has too much influence, whilst their own head of state is one and the same as their head of church. On the flipside, Nationalists are generally of the same opinion but would never agree with a Unionist on the matter. Northern Ireland are like bickering children volleying 'he said, she saids' back and forth. Until they can agree amongst themselves, I would never vote for a United Ireland.

Yes unionists are pathetic simpletons trapped by nonsense and lies, always have been.

[@MartinT5600]

@ And it's dismissive, arrogant opinions like yours that keeps the hatred alive, Sean.

[@chrisclark1761]

@ And Nationalists are so different ?

[@chrisclark1761]

@@user-rz4mg6mx7r I'm just more equal.

[@kevobrien4329]

That’s definitely a swingers bus trip

[@nightrunk]

Brilliant 😂

[@danbreen6946]

Superb 🤣😂

[@James_BAlert]

They broke the swings when they got down to Bray sea-front!! 😀 ...... Oh wait there! I see what you're saying now, in which case "Ulster says YES!!"! 😄

[@seanfan69]

😄

[@kevburke]

Definitely. We know who has the "dirty books" as well...

[@Basement_crusader]

Imagine living your whole life in complete contempt of people who are more closely related to you than the people from whom you derive your identity.

[@ixlnxs]

And that's why my grandparents fled Lebanon. ;)

[@AWhileHanlin]

It's tragic how poor unionists have been lead on. And in recent years its a speicif brand of being DUPed. I have a mixed background and see it more clearly without prejudice or much bias from one side or another.

[@irishcowboy42]

Closely related?... I understand what you say but this predates the beginning of any conflict pre the 'easter rising'. The fact of identity becomes irrelevant, it's like saying to a muslim, can you please become a christian for the sake of a border and vice versa. It's a sad indictment of religion and it's dogma that cripples people and it's attitude to one another.

[@conorharris2451]

It’s not everyone. I’m and unionist and am from a unionist background. I’ve never had contempt for the Republic of Ireland. I used to go there every year for the six nations and of course supported Ireland in other sports too. It’s just we don’t see ourselves from that country. From the island of Ireland yes. I’ve no problem saying that. I’ve never voted DUP and never will. I think most family and friends would agree with me. This is just a bunch of hillbillies on the bus!

[@jdlc903]

They fear the people who hate and kill them. The irish would do ethnic cleansing of protestant farmers in the border territories.

[@antoanto5301]

CR, you're selection of footage from the past is PRICELESS!

[@fintonmainz7845]

The South of Ireland is a totally different country a half century later. Northern Ireland has not progressed.

[@MB-pe1dw]

The people in the north of Ireland are more religious be they Catholic or protestant.

[@seandoherty925]

I'd have to say as someone who lives in N Ireland, you obviously have not spent too much time here back then or more recently.

[@RobertK1993]

Republic of Ireland is hesitated about taking over NI.

[@LeMerch]

@@seandoherty925 Ireland is decades ahead of NI. The south Dublin economy alone is worth more than the whole NI economy. It’s chalk and cheese. I’ve worked in both, and I love both.

[@Drifty40]

@@LeMerch Google......Irelands False Economy.....🙄

[@alspenlow6399]

As an Irish man they're not wrong about the Catholic Church having way too much control but that day is long long gone

[@spudsmuggler1821]

In my opinion,They did more damage than the Brits,but the Brits built the seminary in Maynooth to kerb seditious priests

[@MB-pe1dw]

The Catholic church is part of Ireland's identity. When you lose your identity you have no country

[@Hipit55]

too much control is what loyalists had back in that day and Derry was 70% catholic

[@alspenlow6399]

@@MB-pe1dw were part of irelands identity

[@MB-pe1dw]

@@alspenlow6399 It will always be part of Ireland's identity.

[@frankkelleher1888]

Their still paddies in the eyes of the English

[@Ricardo-mr3bg]

Definitely true, the English tories and conservatives seen them as regular Irish. And see them with the same contempt.

[@matthewwilson3202]

Still the same. Try to pay for something with Northern notes in the majority of England and they'll look at you like you handed them Zimbabwean shillings

[@winco68]

Yes for the most part you’re correct. I’d say a large proportion of the English population and particularly Southern English have very little or zero knowledge of Ireland and it’s people and politics. They don’t understand Republicanism/Nationalism or Unionism/Loyalism nor do they understand why the troubles happened or that six of Ulster’s nine counties are part of the UK - literally part of the same nation state that they are in! They hear an Irish accent and are unable to distinguish whether it’s Northern or Southern and that’s it they’re Irish not British!

[@WheelieMacBin]

@@matthewwilson3202 - The same with Scottish, Manx, Channel Islands and Gibraltar banknotes. None are legal tender in England, although shops can accept them and bank them if they wish. At the same time, Bank of England banknotes are only legal tender in England, but shops can take them if they wish elsewhere in the UK.

[@icemanire5467]

If you ever worked on the building sites in England in the 80s. I can't even tell you how correct you are. It's quite hilarious.

[@lmc4964]

Actually sounds like Harry Enfield's Ulsterman

[@Micheal-es1ki]

😂 Mrs Binfield! From Belfast 50 years here, your comment was spot on, couldn't believe someone else was thinking what I was as I was watching this!😆

[@thatbuckmulligan]

I started watching it and thought it was a Harry Enfield sketch

[@Micheal-es1ki]

@@thatbuckmulligan 😂

[@thomasskeffington4539]

Pineapple with cheese on a stick for all.

[@rhythmicallydivine]

I made a legitimate request for cheese and pineapple on a stick!

[@thereseflynn7615]

The lady that said you're not even allowed read a dirty book was a cruel cruel woman........why didn't she bring us down a box of them????!!!!!

[@johnq.8889]

Probably compensating because her husband reads them.

[@boomtish4520]

Nobody *reads* a dirty book.

[@RobertK1993]

​@@johnq.8889 Ulster Unionists Presbyterians such hypocrites so telling Republic of Ireland off for Roman Catholic dogma and when they have Presbyterian dogma running NI.

[@nunyabizness690]

I hope they had cheese and pineapple on a stick

[@melgrant7404]

My favourite

[@geoffduke1763]

It is only a legitmate and peaceful request to get cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick.

[@deformednutsack9886]

Legitimate request 😂

[@TheMusicianTom]

Mrs Bunfield. I legitimately demand cheers and pineapple on a stick.

[@mochababy2]

He's 29? He needs to drink more water

[@celticfire9881]

And less alcohol 🍺🥃

[@dogwhistle8836]

No just water, holy water

[@bordercollie1140]

He's 27 now.

[@JDLeonard74]

Thanks for sharing this CR. It's very informative and interesting when you don't know what all happened. I know it can be a very painful subject brother man. Sorry if I over share in the comments some times.

[@paulgrieve7031]

One of Harry Enfield’s best early shows. “Ulsterbus Tours”

[@bordercollie1140]

The bus was driven by William Ulsterman. Mrs Banfield!!! It is not me it is youuuuu!!!!! Pineapple and cheddar cheese on a stick you contemptuous bitch!!!!!!!😂😂😂

[@briandoherty245]

29 in dog years!

[@crashbangwhallopwhatavideo]

Lol!!!

[@theheaterguyryan5052]

This is like one of these old carry on movies.

[@conorharris2451]

I thought this was a comedy. That opening would lead you to believe that but apparently it’s serious

[@bikeman9899]

What's striking here, 50 years on from this video, is how much the South has changed. And how little the North has.

[@Chris_Tinacan]

That woman talking about dirty books is a great reflection of the protestants in Monty Python's Meaning of Life.

[@henryfitch8710]

Dr Ian Paisley's voice rings out :'No, no, no'. Years later he sat at the table and chuckled with his 'brother' Martin McGuiness of Sinn Fein. Who would have thought it possible?

[@scooby1992]

The lady who talked about not being able to ' read a dirty book ' was referring to the time in the Irish Republic where the Catholic church did hold massive influence over the moral and social fabric of the country . Times have changed exponentially now and the Republic is a much more secular state due to the church being the author of it's own downfall , mainly due to the abuse scandal . ( I say that as a practicing Catholic and I dont take any pleasure in saying it ) . I think if anything any hard line Christian teaching now comes from the likes of the DUP and Presbyterians in the north .

[@turnip5359]

Presbyterians are nuttier than a hazelnut spread, dunno why the english get so much flak when it's the Scottish who are to blame for importing this mess

[@DaraGaming42]

Sex in tv and books was banned in Ireland till the late 80s

[@anfieldreds_1892]

@@DaraGaming42 wow that’s crazy

[@johncahalane7327]

@@DaraGaming42 Gwann out of that now there was no sex in the South of Ireland until Gay Byrne and his auld show you know

[@DaraGaming42]

@@johncahalane7327 ah sure you know🤣🤣🤣 Twas a simpler time LOL

[@ENGABU1]

She sounds like she REALLY wants to read a dirty book! What a lovely piece. Very proud of my country's flag Green White AND ORANGE. These people are as Irish as me, sure they identify as British (no issue there), but they are still IRISH, different to my political views maybe, but non the less, they remain my kin.

[@thischannelhasnoname5780]

Yep, that's why your lot burned them out in the south and bombed, shot and maimed them in the north, and why over a third of you plan to vote for a sectarian murder gang.

[@cedricliggins7528]

Unionist/Ulsterists are traitors

[@9inchsnails829]

Too bad then that the IRA stained your green white and orange flag beyond repair. The Union flag contains the cross of St Patrick and you're more than welcome to embrace it whenever you like

[@ENGABU1]

@@9inchsnails829 I disagree...having lived in the UK for over 14 years in the 80s and 90s...I saw how the BNP and the racists STOLE the Union Flag from a proud nation. The PIRA might have tried to do the same here...but I for one wouldn't let the fuckers have it.

[@thebomb78]

If you're Irish, they're not your kin. They were planted in Ireland.

[@finhyland4270]

29?could easily pass for 55..

[@John-gx2ry]

does 29 years of age mean the same thing in Ireland?

[@johnturner3455]

Jesus.....29 going on 50

[@nolans11]

29. Twenty-nine. Need to let that sink in. Beyond the ridiculously low age of that man, I can't get over how different the Republic of Ireland is and how little has changed in the North since this video.

[@shredder9536]

The south has no soul anymore it's a globalist entity run by big tech corporations like google and Facebook. All the politicans are puppets of the World Economic Forum. Sad state really

[@basedbob277]

The south has changed surely alot more foreign criminals and rapists, EU is a disaster for native Europeans

[@merrybutcher2978]

INLA took him out.

[@lukewilliams4572]

@@merrybutcher2978 for a meal?

[@CinCee-]

The knuckle dragging unionist dotes are the people that time has left behind.

[@billybhoy32]

I think he meant to say he was born in 1929.

[@thatbuckmulligan]

How is that man 29…

[@TheBenzer9]

Hagas and stitched tartan underpants

[@limita9961]

Deep fried food and lots of alcohol

[@ameliaoc]

:" God save the king" He said ..??? In 1973?? I can well understand their perspective... I'd love see the rest of the video ... living history - thanks for sharing !

[@crose7412]

amelia o connor He was reading out Edward Carson's 1912 statement...as was said immediately afterwards.

[@lauraswann5543]

Amelia, They were quoting the words of Edward Carson, and at his time the U.K. had a king, so he said king.

[@ameliaoc]

I totally missed that (sigh) thanks for letting me know x

[@johncahalane7327]

That was King George V ,Michael Collins was about to drink his first legal pint about then

[@CrazyMonkey679]

Would love to watch the rest of this

[@Dreyno]

Alfie Large has to have been the inspiration for Uncle Andy. Has to be.

[@nigelmcdermott5942]

The then 29 year old Fred Otley was later shot dead by the INLA on the Shankill Road in 1988. He was a senior loyalist.

[@5888max]

RIP

[@olearyma57]

@@5888max Whaaaaaat ?

[@megaluke007]

Methinks they showed the wrong person with the "29 year old". That's the only explanation

[@patmchale9719]

29? 😂 that owl drum banging would age ya surely

[@phillipecook3227]

I really would have liked to have watched the whole of this.

[@mulv8272]

You can watch the part two if you look at the top comment.

[@petercross3984]

Not me lol

[@williem1710]

Jim Smyth became well known a year later in the UWC Strike. He was a trade Union conveyor at Rolls Royce.

[@simondavey7787]

Seeing this has acted as a warning to me as we move into these very divisive post-Brexit days. We never want to see army checkpoints on the island of Ireland again.

[@misterx1342]

@Cian MacGana The island that both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland are on is official named Ireland. As such it’s the island of Ireland. It’s like how the island that Haiti and the Dominican Republic are on is officially named the island of Hispaniola.

[@haroldinho9930]

@Cian MacGana just to stop arguments I presume.

[@dominicwood7865]

Never again RUC and Army at a false boarder. Brexit was not thought through.

[@dod4004]

​@Cian MacGana on the contrary - it's mostly used by politicians in the south. The official name of the republic is simply 'Ireland'. So they need to use a different term to indicate they are including NI. Hence the island of Ireland.

[@jBread28]

@cianmacgana9092 What did he say that's wrong, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing

[@J_Teriyaki]

Greetings from Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia to everyone in Newry and Wexford. Two places, this year and previously, where I've met real characters🥃

[@cathalorourke1]

Greetings from Ballyhogue in Wexford, hope you enjoyed your time there 👍

[@J_Teriyaki]

@@cathalorourke1 I always do. Gus the Publican @John Barry Pub couldn't get a working visa when in Australia so he went to every pub from Melbourne to Cairns instead, Paddy Heffernan (his pub now closed) still can't make a Baby Guinness shot after 45 years in the business, Michael Power of St George Bed & Breakfast (now retired) can't stop talking and then there's Gorey...a picture on Wikipedia's online search of that town of a guy seemingly about to be run over by a bus. Characters!. Cheers 👍

[@conorryan8636]

Imagine being genetically Scottish, growing up thinking you're English and living in Ireland. They are a confused olde bunch

[@gojimovedchannel1478]

They don't think they're English

[@gojimovedchannel1478]

They are British

[@tc2664]

@@gojimovedchannel1478 They use god save the queen England's national anthem as their own they are English.

[@gojimovedchannel1478]

@@tc2664 God Save the queen Is the British national anthem

[@gojimovedchannel1478]

@@tc2664 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIWUeXiOg65smZY This is England's national anthem

[@msgfrmdaactionman3000]

Great history about Ireland, thank you!

[@seanrathmakedisciples1508]

A great video to watch. It’s amazing the changes in people over time. I’ve spent over 3 years living in Belfast and I’ve been in the Shankill Road and the Falls Road.. We’ve many friends from Belfast who visit us down south on a regular basis and visit us for holidays. . I used to stay in Farset Hostel cum Hotel. It’s now occupied by refugees and no longer available for visitors on holidays. A change of scenery is a tonic for us all. Life goes by too quickly and we need to enjoy and be a blessing to our fellow humans in every way possible in Jesus name

[@Wonderkid44]

Very free state way of looking at things.

[@afitzsimons]

29 years of age...really, He's had a hard life.

[@andrewlyng4855]

I know. He looks in bits 😂

[@S7tronic]

29?? What was he driving, a fucking time machine?

[@jdlc903]

The intro was awesome

[@winterishere9828]

I haven't watched this youtube video but I saw it on tv at the time in B&W (iirc) and what struck me most was a Unionist woman in a two up two down house up there saying that the reason they wanted to stay in the UK was to preserve their superior standard of living. Also remember them commenting on the grottos to The Virgin Mary as they drove down and saying how southern protestants had been brainwashed or something. Going to watch it now to check out my 49 year old memory

[@stephensmith4480]

Some people genuinely seemed indifferent to the politics of it all, but if you listen to some of them, The Bigotry is festering below the surface.

[@davidfielding8001]

The legroom in the old coaches, luxurious.

[@adrianc1264]

😀 beats Ryanair. Wish we'd had UlsterCoachesAir instead eh

[@smurph4959]

I've only been to Belfast once 🙈 but I want to do the Antrim coast this summer. I guess the beautiful side couldnt be on the tv foreground at that time.

[@RobertK1993]

Where did you get the footage m

[@shaneryan9040]

Is this a Monty python skit??😂😂😂😂

[@bob7923]

Orange men never aged very well did they?

[@Hipit55]

must be all the stress of working 2 jobs RUC by day UDR eveing defending ulster from catholics on the dole.

[@odonnchada9994]

God Bless Roman Catholic Fenians.☘🇮🇪

[@odonnchada9994]

@@Hipit55 And You Shut Your Huns Face.💚

[@Lee-cz8dh]

The way Betty Brown was talking and her voice,reminded me of the mother, Mary in Derry Girls 😭😭

[@opencurtin]

If they had treated the Catholics as equals instead of second class citizens the troubles would never have happened,

[@williambinions4205]

The troubles would have happened anyway. Don’t forget the stranglehold the Catholic Church had on the country at that time. There was massive sectarian hatred on both sides.The troubles were inevitable at this time

[@opencurtin]

@@williambinions4205 the Catholic Church was outlawed in Ireland under the penal laws until Daniel O Connell got Catholic emancipation in 1827 Catholics were persecuted in their own country for 800 years , it continued in the north after partition the civil rights marches were peaceful marches looking for equal rights to stop gerrymandering and discrimination against Catholics in seeking jobs and housing blaming the Catholic Church for Protestant discrimination is a bit rich , the Bloody Sunday massacre was the catalyst that caused the IRA to start their bloody campaign, don’t forget the sunningdale agreement (which Paisley brought down with mass demonstrations and strikes ) was the good Friday agreement for slow learners ..

[@williambinions4205]

@@opencurtin I am not denying that there was not discrimination against Catholics in the North. Far from it. What I am pointing out is the Catholic Church had an equal hand in encouraging Racial Discrimination Segregation and hatred against their fellow Protestant neighbors long before Bloody Sunday or event the Modern troubles of the latter Half of the 20 Century ever started. This made the troubles inevitable. All you have to do is look at the racist bigoted teachings of the Catholic Church on mixed marriages their children etc. the Fethard on sea boycot of 1957 is an example of when the Catholic Church attempted to Flex its power and the Devalera government became alarmed that it could escalate into Bloody civil war. It had been such a cauldron of tension for many years it was inevitable that the troubles were going boil over. You also have to remember that particularly after 1916 many Protestants were discriminated against as well the vast majority of these were not landed gentry but were ordinary middle class and working class Irish Protestants. Thankfully oppressive institutions such as unionism and the Catholic Church are slowly but progressively being dismantled. Hopefully never ever to rise again 🇨🇮 💪

[@celticfire9881]

@@williambinions4205 The Catholic Church was “ Racist” towards Irish Protestants? 🤔 I think maybe you mean “Sectarian”? Catholicism, and Protestantism are not races. The Catholic Church never condoned racism. Spaniards, Portuguese, and Frenchmen intermarried with indigenous native women, and female African Slaves in their colonies. Slavery, and Imperialism, are both wrong, but the “Catholic” Empires still treated their subjects better. Irish Catholic Slaves intermarried with African Slaves in the Caribbean, because they sympathized with the Africans, because they were also treated harshly by English Protestants. White Supremacy spawns from English, Dutch, and German Protestantism.

[@williambinions4205]

@@celticfire9881 your Statement that white supremacy is the result of Protestantism is one of the most ignorant uneducated that I hav ever heard ever heard 😂 what about all the atrocity’s commited in the America’s by the Spanish and Portuguese ?Also all the many many. atrocity’s commited against the Muslims during the Crusades ?? All done in the Name of Rome!!’

[@PeterShieldsukcatstripey]

fellow who is 29 is a big lad.

[@SeanKiernan420]

Man that accent fits perfectly to the ludicrous mindset of the elusive unionist “who are these people anyway?” Lmao

[@stuartparker6838]

You nationalist down south would still be living in mud huts without the EU .

[@seankeogh1401]

@@stuartparker6838 You Unionist up north would be sleeping in ditches if it weren't for the UK pumping money into you.

[@brazil8426]

Reading both these comments I can see why there are jokes about us . You are both combined running down the whole island lol .

[@stuartparker6838]

@@brazil8426 I'm only running down the Republican it is not my country

[@SeanKiernan420]

@@stuartparker6838 🤦

[@m.g.3013]

Ah man upload the rest of it.

[@conorwhite2066]

Yep... gotta upload the rest

[@FishingIrishMan]

I guess you could call this a fish out of water type documentary!

[@antokent]

It's amazing how ignorant each side was and still are of each other

[@mfitzy100]

Where is the rest of the footage? Fascinating

[@kevincallaghan3212]

Its in description under title

[@jaqian]

Where can I find the full version?

[@afitzsimons]

The woman on about the freedom to read dirty books reminds me of the protestant man in The Meaning Of Life, going on how he can wear a rubber if he wants to. I love his wife's expression of chance would be a fine thing. I wonder what the firebrand Paisley would have to say about dirty books?

[@ruairijoseph]

‘Ya can’t even read a dirty book’ 😂

[@davidlawlor4317]

The lady who makes the point about freedom had a point. The Republic was under the jackboot of the Catholic Church at that time.

[@tjclarke1892]

Republicans won't admit that. They think everything was fine and dandy ( they shoved protestants under the rug and ignored them)

[@user-ir4xe9li1t]

whats the song at the start of the video?

[@hhhieronymusbotch]

I notice all the men are sitting on the aisle seat. Was this a custom back then?

[@DarkValorWolf]

@@marykategraham.205 just what is wrong with you...

[@thesatisfiedcustomer4869]

So they can all the men talk to each other with the women quietly looking at the view

[@celticfire9881]

The aisle seat is best, especially on a plane. A lot easier when you have to pee lol…

[@pervazkhaliq4598]

Women first?

[@rge43074]

It's so if the bus is shot at, the women get it first. Subtle but obviously chauvinistic. That's my theory

[@rudetc]

0215 - 29 years of age? Christ, all that marching ages you apparently.

[@hypercomms2001]

Almost expect the Beatles to suddenly appear on their Magical Mystery Tour.....

[@seanpadraigobrien1260]

Where's the rest of it??!

[@Ryan-xz4te]

All that really stood out was the gripe of the Catholic church and it's say in Ireland. Let's just ignore Ulster and the main thing in the unionist ghettos that holds power is a religious organisation OO also the main political figure (at the time) was a reverend, unionist-loyalists are a fickle bunch 🙄🤣🇮🇪

[@timalloy3775]

Stunchness hanging out of them 🤣

[@stanr3383]

It’s interesting to hear that their main issue was the Catholic Church’s power rather than Irish people per se, and in all fairness, they were dead right

[@Druach]

Unionists have used a ‘papist boogeyman’ throughout the entirety of their miserable existence to justify pogroms, extra-judicial executions and the political exclusion of catholics. And fat Stan here is agreeing with them

[@andynixon2820]

That bus driver has a wicked comb over .

[@SuperTonyony]

I've never understood the Loyalists: "Let's kiss up to our conquerors across the water instead of joining with our actual kinsmen, with whom we share the same small island!". It's ludicrous!

[@Valencetheshireman927]

“Let’s kiss up to our conquerors” Unionists were not conquered by the British. Many either came from Scotland or were Protestant converts.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

“With our actual kinsmen” That would be the British not the people who have spent decades trying to murder us.

[@shaunsteele8244]

most of them are Scottish if you go back a few generations

[@paulc3749]

as long as the Catholics remained 2nd class the prods were happy

[@thischannelhasnoname5780]

Your lack of understanding reflects your total ignorance I'm afraid.

[@mexicanpaddy]

29 years old. He was later portrayed in a biopic, Benjamin Button.

[@edmundpower1250]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TheBenzer9]

The lad 29 looks like hulk after he turned into the hulk 🤣🤣

[@ryanrobinson3900]

That fella at the beginning is 29? I think I look brilliant for 41 now

[@boldhylandpaddy6809]

And we are all off to Dublin in the green 😆😆🇮🇪😎

[@noelmaher4633]

The ordinary citizens of both sides have since been left behind, The main protagonists or leaders have done very well out of "Peace Process"... The leaders...

[@richardkerry5650]

Would be interesting to know how many of these people are still alive today would like to here a comment from them nice blast from the past 👍

[@Sinnerboy88]

I think the big fella who said he was 29 year old lorry driver was killed in the troubles years later. I googled his name "Fred Otely" just out of curiosity to see if he was still alive and it came up that he was a UVF man and was killed in his shop on the Shankill Road in 1988. The age would add up as he said he was 29 here in 1973, and it said 44 in 1988. The newsreader said he had appeared on TV previously and it showed a short clip of him.. he grew a beard but I'm pretty sure it's the same guy. Ironically he looked younger in later years than he did here. Here is the clip if anyone wants to see it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnuyeHlslt2JoMU

[@UncleDavey]

Looks like they never got past the customs checkpoint. Probably found a shed load of jazz mags and rubbers on wee Billy from the Shankill Road...

[@niallyshere]

Those protestants, always up to no good

[@gregbrogan9061]

Listening to this... the Republic of Ireland has changed a lot more than NI Unionists.

[@patrickcoleman7997]

It has changed but what is better Now in the Republic of Ireland ?

[@gregbrogan9061]

@@patrickcoleman7997 - Clearly YES!! There has been wonderful progress in the ROI - making it more open and liberal - and kind. And too many NI Unionists remain ignorant and hateful.

[@patrickcoleman7997]

@@gregbrogan9061 OK , what is better?

[@gregbrogan9061]

@@patrickcoleman7997 - Did you watch this vid? For one thing, the Vatican does not control the ROI now as they describe... which has liberalised society... The ROI economy has been totally transformed. The English played rugby at Croke Park in 2007 - GSTQ was played and the Irish remained respectful. Queen went to visit Ireland and was warmly welcomed. All this shows the ROI has matured and moved well beyond its history.

[@patrickcoleman7997]

@@gregbrogan9061 I lived through those times, nothing is better now, people were kind and mostly good then helped one another and knew right from wrong good from evil eg abortion is evil murdering children is evil, if for no other reason things are not better now, doors were not locked then or gates very low crime, we had freedom then unlike now, we live in tyranny now, drugs are out of control now, all the old Priests who I knew back then who are dead now, were very good men who thought good from evil, and people did live their lives by the Catholic teaching, now we live in murder suicide drugs crime and just pure nazi Germany evil killing children abortion, Ireland is now an evil dead country in the most

[@jc-16.]

Fear is such a terrible weapon.

[@crookedpaths6612]

I used to be 29, twenty years ago too.

[@padruigmacrodain]

All the people on the bus could easily be Southern. Physically we don't differ all that much. Hilarious hearing a woman who i assume on Sundays would classify herself as a God-fearing Protestant defending the reading of " dirty books ".

[@capnskiddies]

The free will to do so. There's virtue in having the ability to do something but denying yourself. There's less virtue in banning all vices and claiming piety.

[@padruigmacrodain]

@@capnskiddies True but there are limits and all societies should have them. Should we allow people to access paedophilic material simply on the basis that " if you're not into it, leave me be and let me do my own thing ". People will argue that the child has not consented but what if they did? If they had simply been brainwashed to the extent that they believed it was entirely natural themselves? All I am saying is all societies must know limits and if you believe certain things are just utter poison and will simply wreak untold damage on a society by their being released into them, you have every right to ban them. Her statement is made to sound reasonable but it is essentially anti-catholic diatribe. There will always be the temptation to do the wrong thing but to legislate for evil is to condone it and Christianity by definition, regardless of denomination, never seeks to condone wrongdoing. She is the hypocrite in this regard, I am sorry to say.

[@paulgalligan1916]

Is that the bus Boris threw them under ?

[@Team-fabulous]

No.. Its probably the bus the cowardly ira put a bomb under and murdered a lot of children..... Happy now?!

[@paulgalligan1916]

@@Team-fabulous aye you.d know about pulling buses up on lonely back roads in the dark of night to execute innocent people with your state backed terror squads Ayyye

[@Team-fabulous]

@@paulgalligan1916 have a look in your own back yard.. Sinn fein ira are the masters of that game....

[@paulgalligan1916]

@@Team-fabulous the north is our backyard

[@Team-fabulous]

@@paulgalligan1916 why are you talking about donegal

[@ArmyJames]

Fred Ockley is 29 years of age? That is the most shot-out 29 year old I’ve ever seen in my life.

[@GraveVisitations]

The guy speaking at the start sounds like clip from the butcher boy 😂

[@miriambourke4505]

Thank god that we live in more modern times. Human kindness goes a long way

[@patrickcoleman7997]

What human kindness ? Would you be talking about abortion the killing of thousands and thousands of innocent children ?

[@ajorngjdonaydbr]

@@patrickcoleman7997 stick to the subject at hand instead of sensationalism

[@shaunsteele8244]

lol 1973 was not the dark ages, it was fairly recent

[@williamgoldsmith3796]

The English head of state is also head of a protestant church. Their English prime minister, who must be protestant by law, as there never has been a Catholic prime minister of Britain, appoints protestant only bishops to the British house of lords. . There are no Catholic bishops or priests in Dail Eireann, Ireland has had two Protestant presidents voted into office by a 85% Catholic electorate. End of story.

[@jharekcarnelian]

There is nothing preventing the British prime minister being Catholic. Boris Johnson was baptized as a Catholic, although raised as an Anglican and he was married in a Catholic ceremony while in office. There are no Catholic clergy in Dail Eireann mainly because the Church forbids clergy running from office any more. However, some of the seats in the Seanad are filled by special interest groups such as the six members elected graduates of two universities.

[@faithlesshound5621]

Rishi Sunak isn't a Protestant either. I doubt that there are any legal restrictions as to who can be prime minister, as the title was unofficial until a few decades ago. It became official after people stopped caring about all that nonsense.

[@jharekcarnelian]

@@faithlesshound5621 A good point - Rishi is a Hindu of course.

[@jamesb7529]

5:12 i love how there was barely any traffic on the motorway back then, i wish it was like that now, driving would be much more enjoyable lol

[@5888max]

Doubt you are from Ireland , the Motorway's ( with the exception of the M50 ) are hardly ever congested . Incidentally at the time of filming that Motorway they are on was the only bit of Motorway on the whole Island , we in the 26 did terrible roads until the EU started forking out for them in the '80s and 90's

[@thecarpetman7687]

Anyone know that Customs Officer?

[@thesatisfiedcustomer4869]

29 - I wonder what he looked like aged 50. The woman saying im curious to see how they live in the south - like she is exploring a South American tribe. The world was very different then eh

[@Dreyno]

Trust me. There’s plenty of unionists that have never set foot south of the border have have no idea what it’s like. Even Stephen Nolan had never set foot in the south until he did a programme less than 10 years ago where a BBC presenter went south and an RTÉ presenter went north. And he’d have a few quid to spare and a car. Said he “never had a reason” to visit the south. A journalist who never had the curiosity to drive an hour south of his house across an open border? Or a conscious or subconscious avoidance of the south?

[@Dom-fx4kt]

Probably looked exactly the same as he did 29 lol

[@eireann6135]

@@Dreyno of course we found out later he was in a sexual relationship with a Catholic man from the falls

[@alastairward2774]

Down South in Mexico.

[@meab12]

@@eireann6135 was he really?