Composed and written by: Josef Franz Wagner (20 March 1856 - 5 June 1908
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@kaiserfranz31387 жыл бұрын
My kind of music.
@franzjosefi73275 жыл бұрын
same
@arikborisov81314 жыл бұрын
Your wife was murdered and you just sitting here, enjoying music
@im.koyami4 жыл бұрын
this is your fault
@jakubbenco51434 жыл бұрын
@@im.koyami what?
@wilhelmiivonhohenzollern61484 жыл бұрын
Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser!
@darkeagle5537 жыл бұрын
You chose a proper day to post that. The 26th of October is the austrian national day. Happy national day to all fellow austrians!
@darkeagle5536 жыл бұрын
No problem. Viribus Unitis!
@MikeAnderson-mh2og6 жыл бұрын
Philip Mastny Restore the Habsburg Monarchy Gott Schutze Den Kaiser Osterreich !!!!
@Kameliius5 жыл бұрын
Thx man, appreciated
@LegoGerald Жыл бұрын
Amen, viribus unitis!
@speedawaaagon74925 жыл бұрын
when the Italians refuse to give you back south tyrol
@diedeutschenkonservative75514 жыл бұрын
It has ten likes now
@lon97304 жыл бұрын
South Tyrol is Italian
@lon97304 жыл бұрын
@UCaFnSuTfd3QyDWFDp7Igrqg why? South tyrol was indipendent until ~1400 when Austria annexed it. Before, during Roman Empire, Tyrol was part of Roman province, meanwhile Norik (odiern Austria) was another province. After Roman Empire, Tyrol was part of ostroth kingdom, longobard kingdom. Each kingdom had the entire Italy as border so we can consider them as Italian kingdom. Tyrol became indipendent around 1200
@hodor98514 жыл бұрын
Because south tyrol is rightful Italian clay
@jaykilbourne11104 жыл бұрын
@@hodor9851 *Austrian
@Vetrarbreytin3 жыл бұрын
The Austrian accent, the most beautiful spoken German. A heartfelt welcome from very friendly, respectful Austrians when I went to their little country pearl in the Alps. One of my best memories. There is kinda "Austrian dolce vita" in the Germanic way that we immediately feel when we travel to Austria. Those who've been there and to Italy will know what I'm talking about. Messieurs, sabres au clair et présentez les couleurs à nos amis autrichiens. Kindest regards from France.
@Tubulce2 жыл бұрын
mei größta Respekt vo Östareich noch Frankreich 🇦🇹❤️🇫🇷
@sauronmordor74942 жыл бұрын
@@Tubulce You too fur vaterland ^^
@Tubulce2 жыл бұрын
@@sauronmordor7494 ^^
@sauronmordor74942 жыл бұрын
@@Tubulce ;)
@petko-05822 жыл бұрын
Most beatiful.Dont even joke with that.
@Sgtdoc7 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the Empire still existed.
@SeenuGadwalАй бұрын
Old times ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨
@SeenuGadwal29 күн бұрын
1918
@dominikkafka85227 жыл бұрын
long live my Austrian friend
@derphoneguy98477 жыл бұрын
Du musst deutsch können um unser Kaiser zu sein! Kannst du deutsch ? You can Germany?
@kaiserfranz31387 жыл бұрын
Thx Willy boy.
@sultanmehmedv9576 жыл бұрын
Yes long live archduke Franz Ferdinand and all the hapsburgs Edit: Yeah sorry about that didn't realise who that sent killed, but we will win right, Right?
@gungdegalang46355 жыл бұрын
Friend ? German , austrian , hungarian are brother Restore the monarchy!
@Hammadz-li5 жыл бұрын
its not austtria its HRE
@Masquer21 Жыл бұрын
!!!WARNING!!! This music can cause strong patriotic feelings for a country, that you don't live in, or doesn't even exist anymore!
@damatapetindvajset6540 Жыл бұрын
Just wait
@teodorrada96699 ай бұрын
@@damatapetindvajset6540🧐
@exmuhtar3734 жыл бұрын
Turks and Austrians fought each other for centuries, and they die together in WW1. Respect my imperial friends from Turkey.
@busodelor19773 жыл бұрын
Turks in 1529 and 1683 near of Vienna
@haruflol22953 жыл бұрын
Austria won! 🇦🇹⚔️💪
@TheAustrianAnimations872 жыл бұрын
@@isyraf9989 Because the Russian victory over the Ottomans after the Seven Years' War threatened the balance of Europe, so Prussia suggested Austria to partition Poland in the first place. If Austria didn't join, Prussia & Russia would simply take everything. Also, the fact that Poland became the weakest major European power is the fault of their own nobels. Austria was the only country where Poles enjoyed autonomy and Polish language/culture was respected. Polish uprisings happened in Austria sometimes, but oppression of Poles in Prussia and Russia was worse. There were no Germanization or Russification policies in Austria. Either way, there was nothing Poland could do once it showed its weakness to the world in the 1770s.
@Lucas-iy7ix5 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of having princess Leopoldina from the Austrian Royal Family as a person who helped in the Brazilian independence process.Without her Brazilian monarchy wouldn't be the same.
@SchimmeIpfennig10 ай бұрын
I heard that the yellow in Brazil's flag is a hommage to the House of Habsburg
@jackvieira51578 ай бұрын
Bullshit lol
@jackvieira51578 ай бұрын
Don't forget you guys got kicked face twice during world war 1 and world war 2 so much for the Austrian Hungarian empire with your partner's the Germans
@jackvieira51578 ай бұрын
End don't forget with the Russians at your front door at the end of WW2
@SchimmeIpfennig8 ай бұрын
@@jackvieira5157I don't get how that's on topic?
@therealgrixly55927 жыл бұрын
When you arrive too late and everyone has said all the jokes
@mrstenroller23094 жыл бұрын
Long live Austrian Empire and the Habsburg-Lorraine. One day, our double-headed eagle will return.
@lmaocetung3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Glory to margrave, Glory to emperor, Glory to king!!! Greetings from Moravia
@petko-05822 жыл бұрын
Probably not but okay
@Martin-zg7hx2 жыл бұрын
@@petko-0582 who knows... democracy wont last forever... xD
@That-Austrian-Guy Жыл бұрын
hopefully
@bici_oh Жыл бұрын
Wir wearn tsrukkomma und des is fix oida
@МаксимМельничук-п9щ Жыл бұрын
All dislikes are from Italians, Hungarians, Chechs, Slovaks, Slovens, Bosnians, Serbs, Poles, Ukrainians and Romanians.
@FrederickvonKroner7 жыл бұрын
For God, Kaiser, and Fatherland!
@davew42726 жыл бұрын
ddr puppy of soviet
@Monsterpala4 жыл бұрын
and for Sisi !
@sauronmordor74944 жыл бұрын
@@Monsterpala Why is Sisi?
@mrstenroller23094 жыл бұрын
One day, our double-headed eagle will return.
@derniercaesar53193 жыл бұрын
DDR: gott, kaiser & vaterland 2021
@Flavaop11692 жыл бұрын
We literally played this song in band one year the fact it’s a Austrian makes me so fucking happy
@duskthunder9274 Жыл бұрын
Same bro I just realized this😂 this was always my favorite
@MCwooka6 жыл бұрын
Lang lebe ÖSTERREICH
@pisscore42073 жыл бұрын
OSTERREICH UBER ALLES!
@GNRA1GreatNorthern14703 жыл бұрын
LANG LEBE KAISER FRANCIS
@mattsproductions75253 жыл бұрын
HEIL UNSER VATERLAND ÖSTERREICH!
@nahidbethehonoredone5 жыл бұрын
Germans/Prussians, Austrians and Hungarians all brothers! Restore the Habsburgs! Restore the monarchy! Restore the Kaiser and the Reich!
@busodelor19774 жыл бұрын
du bist ein Idiot, die Deutschen/Preussen haben Österreich 1866 abgeschlachtet, welche Idioten kotzen da immer aus von wegen Brüdern
@jojomj4 жыл бұрын
@@busodelor1977 wir hören nicht auf deutsche revolutionäre staaten. Deutsche können gehen
@mrstenroller23094 жыл бұрын
One day, our double-headed eagle will return.
@ArwenUndomiel4063 жыл бұрын
Viribus Unitis
@busodelor19773 жыл бұрын
@@MsVulgus erklärst du mir das? Mir als Tiroler?
@marycavender71364 жыл бұрын
This is a familiar old March! I love the melody and enthusiasm of this dandy March! I will put this on my listening list too !❤️🎭🤗🎵🎶🎼👍🌹
@thebesteu-west27634 жыл бұрын
Play this music when you try to get to the front while being on an 10km/h train
@Historical_Recordings7 жыл бұрын
Keep it up with the 19th century music. Best century by far.
@00MSG6 жыл бұрын
Historical Recordings True
@HashimyHuseini6 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer the Middle Ages
@napoleonibonaparte71987 жыл бұрын
Restore the Habsburgs!
@dznts53136 жыл бұрын
Holy shit Napoleon, you aren't the same man as before.
@cagrbatur75705 жыл бұрын
@@dznts5313 For crush them again
@veilumn43695 жыл бұрын
Omg a twin xD
@WienerVL4 жыл бұрын
Holly shit NOOOO! We dont need them anymore! They are murderers of millions!
@kaderpdi19824 жыл бұрын
But you defeated and hated them
@pedrornunes966 жыл бұрын
The final drop. You just gained another subscriber!
@Amir.9722 жыл бұрын
to think that this small and peaceful country was once a great and powerful empire
@GoodVideos235 жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece of music, danke :)
@lucianogalli29476 жыл бұрын
Simply wonderful.
@MenschMair7 жыл бұрын
*OH JA THAT'S HOW I LIKE IT* Even on the fucking National Day god should bless you my lord!
@LukasPedron6 жыл бұрын
Austrian Nationalist, doesn't that make you automatically a German Nationalist ?
@epc-mi5ij6 жыл бұрын
no
@LukasPedron6 жыл бұрын
Well then it is simply nonsese.
@cheezycrackers86776 жыл бұрын
Austria is a meme country
@MenschMair6 жыл бұрын
Austria Hungary oh hello there you went missing for long time
@edwardfranks52152 жыл бұрын
someone blamed the austrians for defeats against napoleon. france had a populaiton of 30 million in 1800 although only 7% spoke parisian french. austria had 3.5 million and 22 million and 11 language groups. like herding cats. it's a miracle the empire did so well
@syborgcat38302 жыл бұрын
I love how this sounds exactly like classic folkmusic
@4Pidxce Жыл бұрын
in my opinion, 0:57 is the most epic
@mugapuglov1002 Жыл бұрын
2:45
@Mehmet_Ergin Жыл бұрын
Me: I fall off the mountain by defending in the isonzo mountains Meanwhile, commanders:
@saeedalmodaber20263 жыл бұрын
Hello. Yes I play this March so many times thanks Dr
@fredklein72411 ай бұрын
Thank you. My Grandfather served in the Austrian army in WW1 😂.
@williamrhodes80597 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! My kind of music!
@thetrashman53817 жыл бұрын
Great recording as usual.
@joseluismassari3 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty Nice⚜️
@f0xtr0ti.527 жыл бұрын
These artwork is beautyful
@austria-hungaryempire17626 жыл бұрын
Viva la Austria-Hungary!
@HashimyHuseini6 жыл бұрын
VIVA?
@joao-jn3ck4 жыл бұрын
Bet someone said "wOw 'vIVa lA' iS IN FreNsh nOt geRMan r/WoOsh"
@harrys.truman54574 жыл бұрын
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY!?
@taysea7v4 жыл бұрын
Viva la Monarquia de los Habsburgo
@aserver8gaming4964 жыл бұрын
this is austrian empire not austria hungary
@abu-hureraali45316 жыл бұрын
Conrad get the flag!
@Kardia_of_Rhodes7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help Baron
@captncutlass4050 Жыл бұрын
POV: Blood and Iron victory song 0:10
@williamdufour48265 жыл бұрын
Outstanding march!
@saeedalmodaber20263 жыл бұрын
Hello its very nice March thanks Dr
@saeedalmodaber20263 жыл бұрын
Hello its me. I like this March thanks Dr
@johannesmuth9552 күн бұрын
Gottes Sonne strahl in Frieden auf ein glücklich Österreich!
@manoflamancha2184 жыл бұрын
When you declare war but you only know how to do happy dancing music.
@ElectrifiedGremlin Жыл бұрын
The Australians do make some good music
@lisarino11804 жыл бұрын
When the french emperor who said that France will never have an Austrian queen had to marry an Austrian queen
@КняжествоСилэнд6 жыл бұрын
Indivisibiliter ac Inseparabiliter!
@himnosdecolombia71066 жыл бұрын
Very popular march used by the military academy in Colombia which uses Prussian style uniforms with spiked helmets
@robrot4047 жыл бұрын
Id really like if you do any Arab military march songs or Franco era patriotic songs. Thanks!
@sreideur35066 жыл бұрын
Robrot Veillons au salut de l’empire , le reve passe , le chant du depart, le marche de la garde consulaire, marche des bonnet a poils, te souvient tu? Et autre . And other :)
@maloflory6 жыл бұрын
Screideur I think he was talking about Franco the Spanish dictator.. Not France
@veilumn43695 жыл бұрын
Nice song🙂😯☺️
@l.djouder27167 жыл бұрын
Great shit
@derphoneguy98477 жыл бұрын
YES YES
@Carol-hs3kz6 жыл бұрын
wow is very nice
@StaleBaguette5 жыл бұрын
When you lose 5 wars against Napoleon and have no part in beating him for the final time.
@maximanuel97125 жыл бұрын
you know about the battle of leipzig, also known as battle of the nations?
@juancarlosdegoya27574 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of the battle of Aspern Essling?
@busodelor19774 жыл бұрын
Respekt für die franz. Idioten, die immer noch Afrika ausbeuten, ja immer noch im 20. Jahrhundert
@yeetspageet67074 жыл бұрын
When hundreds of thousands of Austrians die fighting Napoleon and 2 hundred years later some no life on the internet says this
@TheAustrianAnimations873 жыл бұрын
Austria lost 4 wars against Napoleon, not 5. They still won at Aspern-Essling without the help of anybody after the French emperor didn't lose a battle for a decade, plus also gave Napoleon a hard time at Wagram despite defeat. "no part in beating him for the final time" Then (according to your logic) Austria didn't fight at Leipzig along many other countries. And yet, Austria was still at the winner table in Vienna, the Austrian capital. Austria was a formidable enemy, but almost every European country lost wars against France, not just Austria.
@russkayaimperiya57794 жыл бұрын
Great job from an old friend-Russia
@Poor_Wayfaring_Stranger2 жыл бұрын
Allies in perpetuity may our Monarchies Rise Again
@iqm45747 жыл бұрын
Amazing:D
@Tommygunn5294 жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy but I first heard this in Kill la Kill
@pparisps51414 жыл бұрын
Any Brazilian? It was a Brazilian march too, probably because of empress Leopoldina.
@busodelor19774 жыл бұрын
perhaps people from Treze Tilias sung ist?
@geraltzrivii45826 жыл бұрын
Hey man, could you upload Austro-Hungarian Anthem in Hungarian? I Cannot find it :D ps. You are doing a great job m8
@danubianempire51895 жыл бұрын
"Tartsa Isten, óvja İsten", if my memory is correct, but I am afraid that thing doesn't exist on YT.
@danubianempire51895 жыл бұрын
Hungarians used regal national catholic anthem "Boldogasszony anyánk", before Kölcsey's "Himnusz".
@ebinboiz89143 жыл бұрын
When you prevent prussia from unifying germany in vic2
@sixtovallecera18303 жыл бұрын
Love that music :)
@hunter_istrash72942 жыл бұрын
Imagine having onions This post was made by Hapsburg gang
@sreideur35066 жыл бұрын
If you have not idea for your futur music i imagine « veillons au salut de l’Empire » or « la marche des bonnets a poils (with voice or not) » was a good idea :) Thanks :D
@saynomore87953 жыл бұрын
Austria in its glory days-"Austria est imperio optime unita!"
@redtra2366 жыл бұрын
all fun and games until the enemy has a needle rifle
@Guilherme-qx9iz2 жыл бұрын
Sob a dupla águia, da Imperatriz Leopoldina.
@davesabaton92807 жыл бұрын
Can you please upload military music from Bulgaria?
@pumfeethermodynamics32864 жыл бұрын
I thought this song was German. But now its even more epic
@busodelor19774 жыл бұрын
no it is from Tirol/Austria, composer Karl Ganzer from prov .Kufstein
@busodelor19774 жыл бұрын
Unterm Doppeladler Composer Josef Franz Wagner from Vienna, Vienna ist in Austria,
@Hoi4291 Жыл бұрын
Austrians are German
@carry9295 жыл бұрын
これが運動会とかで使われてると思うと…悲しい…
@loki77714 жыл бұрын
Yes
@anisar1137 Жыл бұрын
i came here after listening to j'aime les oignons
@hermannheim9473 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the comments in favor of Austria. Sorry to tell you this is only histroy. They broke our bones.
@user-bfg90006 жыл бұрын
Holy God didn't I march to this when I was a child?
@KaiserFranzJosefI7 жыл бұрын
DO WIEN BLEIBT WIEN PLEASE!
@julielferreira96903 ай бұрын
The Brazilian version is infinitely better
@mikegalanter94084 жыл бұрын
I like it
@ethanliu6184 жыл бұрын
Wenn wir etwas Land wollen und unsere Feinde es nicht geben wollen!
@alvaromarinmolina17 жыл бұрын
when you think that imperial Austrian army couldnt be more ridiculous and you discover that this march is used by Monty Python R.I.P. english
@goldenlily26182 жыл бұрын
Long live the empire,from Bosnia!
@missiavu3 жыл бұрын
The Austrian army defeated so many times by our great Napoleon......
@TheAustrianAnimations873 жыл бұрын
And yet they continued to fight.
@TheAustrianAnimations873 жыл бұрын
@@stare2620 The Austrian army, since 1809, was hardly "shit", since it was responsible for Napoleon's first major defeat at Aspern-Essling without allies (unlike Britain & Prussia). It was just not as good organized as the French army and the reforms were not completed, yet Napoleon still had great respect for the Austrians after his victory at Wagram. "but they were shit and depended on others" Pretty sure that Prussia, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, Saxony, Westphalia, Bavaria, Württemberg, Sicily, Sardinia, ect. were then "shit" too and needed help from their allies. However, France had the largest army aside maybe Russia in that period and the entire European continent needed to work together to defeat it, so every Coalition member was technically depended on each other, it was not an easy task at all (Austria had the 2nd largest Coalition army after Russia). Oh, and there were still moments where Austria was both an independent and effective military force - the battle of the Gefrees in 1809 (aka the Saxon campaign), where the Austrians conquered Saxony from two times bigger French-Saxon-Westphalian armies. Or better, the Neapolitan War, where the Austrians single-handely defeated a bigger and better equipped Neapolitan army at the decisive battle of Tolentino (12K Austrians vs 25K Neapolitans), taking a role in ending Murat's regime in Naples. Austria actually proved to be a strong military force many times in history.
@TheAustrianAnimations873 жыл бұрын
@@stare2620 Austria was simply unmotivated for fighting a war in 1805, but Britain tried to dragge Austria again and again into the war against France. Franz von Weyrother's plan (Austrian commander of Austerlitz) was not very bad (the most incompetent Austrian commander was Karl Mack von Leiberich), but Napoleon was much smarter and more brilliant. Of the Austrian commanders here, only Archduke Charles could give Napoleon a really hard time. But sure, Austria suffered many defeats against Napoleon just like Prussia and Russia on the battlefield. "couldn't beat Serbia alone" Yes, Austria actually could beat Serbia alone, but it was only possible if Russia and France stayed out. Serbia had more experienced troops in that period, but it was far easier for Austria to replace its losses as it also had a far better industry (but still worse than Germany). And while yes, we Austrians had poor commanders, they still could be replaced with better ones. Most of the Austrian army was struggling against Russia, one of the reasons why the Serbs survived. Serbia also got supplies by France. And yet, after the first Allied victory the Serbians screwed up their own invasion of Hungary, search up "Srem offensive" (2K Austrian vs 6K Serbian casualties). Austria beating Serbia was as long possible until Russia joined. Also, the Americans lost in Vietnam, the Soviets struggled against Finland, the Italians couldn't invade Greece, the British lost the 1st Anglo-Afghan War, the French failed their first colonization attempt on Morocco (Larache expedition in 1765), the Ottomans lost against Montenegro, the Spanish lost the battle of Annual in 1921 against some Riffian tribes, and even the Prussians failed to subdue Denmark in the 1st Schleswig War. People should finally stop criticizing Austria for failing to invade Serbia when all those countries above lost/struggled against smaller/inferior armies too.
@TheAustrianAnimations873 жыл бұрын
@@stare2620 Good. 👍
@theleader46202 жыл бұрын
napoleon was a tyrant
@ティーガーI-l5q3 жыл бұрын
運動会の行進曲やん!
@yuise71762 жыл бұрын
たしかに
@Yuh_www3 жыл бұрын
Irgendwan wird dise musik in der statsoper forkomen🇦🇹❤️👂
@antonisgiannakopoulos75687 жыл бұрын
hey there norwegian baron could you please upload a version of the deutschmeister regiment march but with lyrics if possible
@hanz29045 жыл бұрын
Oh god an ancap
@busodelor19773 жыл бұрын
Deutschmeister Regimentsmarsch gesungen von der Militärmusik Tirol
@oberstbaum6 жыл бұрын
Wjich infantry unit is showed in the pics
@AEIOU056 жыл бұрын
German Grenadiers
@mrbanana696 жыл бұрын
Isn't this in rollercoaster tycoon 2?
@OfficialTigerWeedz3 жыл бұрын
Die guten alten Zeiten
@svy53943 жыл бұрын
My 2mm of Austrian genes are firing up, I NEED BRATWURSTS
@ooccoo68903 жыл бұрын
ayo do you have a discord?
@2qwuyw447 Жыл бұрын
The Austrias should rule the américas, like it used to under the spanish crown
@tktoast95552 жыл бұрын
i cream to this
@jimoroll2 жыл бұрын
💀
@oliverlaw85406 жыл бұрын
Pariser Einzugsmarsch? 1940 version perhaps.
@JacobM.S4 жыл бұрын
For our päsť country god save kaizer
@Kbuildsmodels_245 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain the symbolism of the double headed eagle in the flag?
@finnishguy40025 жыл бұрын
I recommend that you google it. I do know that it was used by the Byzantine empire after the old roman empire, which used the eagle with just one head, collapsed. Im guessing that it's supposed to mean that the eagle is looking both to the west and the east, because the empire is so big.
@hermannheim947310 ай бұрын
@diegoferiol St.Helena!!!
@frenchieboyonyoutube5631 Жыл бұрын
Yez
@teaminkompetenzchris58835 жыл бұрын
Is the grenadier on the left andreas ? Am I the only one seeing this ... HAAALT STOP
@pparisps51414 жыл бұрын
🇧🇷🇦🇹
@demynemy74283 жыл бұрын
Y does it sound like waltz music?
@kadiremredemirbas625 жыл бұрын
OTTOMAN EMPIRE
@simonbrandstetter96934 жыл бұрын
who would march with me to Budapest and restore the Empire?
@simonbrandstetter96933 жыл бұрын
@@stare2620 ;(
@piepiep23683 жыл бұрын
Hello 👋😊, comment vont les autrichiens depuis ? (je rigole, vous aviez un belle empire et je vous préfère à vos voisins du haut qui eux n'ont pas la façade aussi blanche que vous. Bon heureusement la les allemands sont moins nationalistes je suis alsacien et il sont super sympas peut être pcq ils pensent venir en terrain conquis. Cela peut être forcément que mieux avec eux que depuis 2siecles)