NOT A TOOTHPICK - EMAX Tinyhawk FREESTYLE!

[@AndyRCchannel]

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[@brownster4865]

AndyRC - this or GEPRC Phantom. Yes, they are different but similar. Any thoughts?

[@Billbobaker]

Andy this or the GepRC Phantom?

[@AndyRCchannel]

@@brownster4865 emax for power and flight time. geprc for range

[@AndyRCchannel]

@@Billbobaker emax for power and flight time. geprc for range

[@X4SnipeRR]

Hey Andy what hd DVR cam could you swap it out with? And what prop gaurds could you use?

[@CurryKitten]

I'm a whole quad behind - I only just flew the TinyHawk S today. I do love that Emax smoothness though - the freestyle looks cool

[@Billbobaker]

Andy I thank you so much for the cli dump.. Thumbs up from us who don't have a finesse and your expertise with tuning in Betaflight. I flew this, the Geprc Phantom and the original Tinyhawk as well as the new Tinyhawk S and I must say I had loads of fun doing crazy aerobatic maneuvers with the two cell freestyle but running through the trees as a slalom course and around obstacles the original Tinyhawk with the Mockingbird tune just took the lead in every way except flight times.. the Geprc Phantom with 650 2s flew for over 11 minutes in mixed flying and was the quietest of all four.

[@Largetalons]

You should give the phantom another try with a 450 2s or 300mah 3s. It's really setting a handicap to run that big of a 2s in it against the two tinyhawks.

[@Billbobaker]

@@Largetalons True and I will try it with the smaller battery packs.. I run 550 and 520's on my Tinyhawk original and the s version and they are still nimble.

[@Billbobaker]

@@Largetalons Drone Camps recommends a 3s 450 and that is quite a bit heavier than the 2s 650 and 550's and loves the performance.

[@Largetalons]

Well the manufacturer recommends 300mah 3s for the phantom and with an 11 minute reported flight I would wager that performance is being traded off for flight times with that setup.

[@AndyRCchannel]

Time Stamps: 0:00 Intro 0:30 Why? 1:40 Specs 11:46 Betaflight 15:06 left in the box 15:39 LOS With Emax Tune 21:28 FPV with Emax Tune 25:57 Preview of my Tune

[@IndigoRyno]

I wanted a mob6 but they are sold out everywhere, so I ordered one of these. I just want something to rip up and down my street, not far, and I'm impressed with this little one. Thanks for your review, and it's always a pleasure to watch you fly.

[@gmascagni]

Andy just wanted to say thank you for posting your pids. I'm using them on a Toothpick build and there so much better than the BF Community Presets for 2" Micro's. Your doing an amazing job for us Micro enthusiasts. Keep it up!

[@richosb100]

Andy your videos always make sense of the madness that is the fpv industry. Your common sense approach is admired and appreciated.

[@AndyRCchannel]

Thank you. Means a lot

[@mrph678]

Good review Andy! Emax are smashing it at the moment. I've got the tinyhawk v1 & v2. I'm definitely going to be getting this little beast for a bit of playground fun and tight spaces where a 3 inch would be too much. They are really good at releasing products that are just bind and fly and no bother with pids and other annoyances! i've flown the v1 tinyhawk to within an inch of it's life and all i've broken are props! couple of quid later and boom, your back in the air again😊. Very good company with very reliable products

[@billsomrak]

I could hear the difference your PIDs made in the motor pitch noise. Nice to be able to do that .. I wouldn't have a clue. Not a fan of limited VTX channel selection .. reminds me of the KingKong/LDARC 16 channel limitation. I was going to say something about the low RSSI values, but you covered that. Thanks for the review; great as always. Cheers!

[@johnmullen2017]

Hi Andy,you can fly this on a 1s,you just need a plug with positive and negative wires soldered together and plug it in where your 2nd battery would be😉

[@robertzoellner424]

Thanks Andy I just received mine today looks like I bought a good one especially thanks going through the Beta flight program. Everything should bind up perfect. I’ll be back!

[@smokeintheeyes]

runs on 1s just fine.even comes with a little plug with a looped cable to fill the slot the the 2nd 1s gos.

[@thairalazawy6835]

Andy, Your reviews are very since you really cover the products from all aspects, thank you very much

[@AndyRCchannel]

Thank you very kind

[@iflyfpv5927]

Hello Andy, I am a fan of your work and just want to say thank you for your great videos. My question is I’m new to the fpv hobby and I just purchased the Tinyhawk FS and was wanting to know how do I input all that info I just looked at with your rates? I want my Tinyhawk to fly as good as possible without the oscillations. Teach me please I’m a fast learner and am willing to learn. Thank you Andy. I meant your tune.

[@graham69parkinson]

Andy, I was thinking of getting the Tinyhawk s but this new Tinyhawk Freestyle has saved me the need to buy another frame which was my plan. And this new drone looks like it might be able to carry the Hawkeye Firefly HD camera.

[@philipstrom6966]

The model has a great look , I hope the Capacitor doesn't Break off with a head-on collision , I think they should have brought it forward another 10 mm and put a Cable tie around it & the inside front arm for a little more support with the heat shrink 😁👍 what a difference in the end after your pid tuning , well done

[@a_mech7336]

nice model I'd buy it but i'm still skeptical of the jst connector. and the answer is simple, theres a jst connector so they can sell the rest of their 1s battery stock. if the connector puffs the battery then you'll buy even more batteries. Thanks for the review.

[@brucebosma6887]

It did seem quicker with your pids. Good job Andy.

[@riggermortisfpv526]

Thank you for this honest review, I purchased one and am super happy with it.

[@timmichalchuk5134]

Bought one of these, and an eachine novice 2 with flysky and flymore options, At the same time that I bought a tiny hawk 2 freestyle, I have respect for the drone, but the eachine is WAAY better bang for your buck Eachine is totally modular so upgràding is easy! Plug and play, but the emax it a pain to upgrade

[@Wildicon19]

Hi Andy. I am getting this very quad in the spring, and I am happy it is getting great reviews. Thank you for the review. Drone On!™

[@LovemyDrones]

Thanks Andy, just got the Freestyle 2, has a 200mw VTX, Looking forward to your video on that. There are differences, for one, no cap, at least on the arm... Packs charging now, LOL.

[@AndyRCchannel]

? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHrNc4l8f52MbtE

[@doubletapgaming1189]

I love watching you fly. I'm an old airplane guy so I can relate. Have you ever done a video showing how to add a flysky or spectrum recieiver to one of these? I dont want to buy a new radio to fly there quads.

[@anonymouslegion4928]

RC with Andy

[@pixelshot09]

Hmmm dunno which one to pick...this one or the diatone gtb229 ? cons : 25mw and the cam :/

[@youbek]

Nice Review 👍 Which one would you prefer? This Emax tinyhawk freestyle or the Geprc Phantom??

[@Marksmonkey1980]

I'm wondering same

[@AndyRCchannel]

@@Marksmonkey1980 emax for power and flight time. geprc for range

[@alumahomeinspections7009]

Hi, I got one of these yesterday and I am having a bad time trying to fly it. Betaflight shows controller is bound to drone but is not armirng, motors do not receive any signal. What do you think? Thank you

[@VoodooTrance]

if you take the foam out it fits with props on

[@RCinginSC]

Andy, in your CLI dump, which profile is your custum tune ? Thx and great review.

[@alexramirez970]

Nice review, I have a question can I bind the E6 transmitter that comes with the tiny hawk rtf to this quad? And if so how do I do it?

[@brandohim]

Alex Ramirez yes you could!!! I did before I bought the q7s. Tiny hawk, Tinyhawk s, Tinyhawk 2, and two freestyles on that little white transmitter. The Cli dump is on EMAX website.

[@im_ricebowl]

"id be suprised if it ever breaking" Watch me break it on my first battery....well hopefully not. GREAT REVIEW ANDY!!

[@michaelmontgomery6388]

Hi Mate, good luck and i hope you dont. Have a good flight mate. 👍

[@ItzAnthony]

Hey i have the same drone and in broke off the port that the camera plugs into, i was wondering if i can use the the other 4 ports on the drone for a camera?

[@Life_a_bike]

What's with the face in the clouds? 😎

[@PowerThumb]

Obviously my VIN pin is defective. Is there a chance to remap any other solder joint and resolder VIN cable? If yes, how?

[@TheCupra1985]

Does this model support D16 for the UK like the Tiny Hawk S?

[@djs134]

Really stupid question Andy but I’m gonna ask anyway lol. With your tune do you keep any of the rate profiles the same as the stock ones or are all of them your custom tunes? I just ask Incase I wanted to go back to the stock tune. And ty for sharing your tune and review

[@AndyRCchannel]

I didnt touch the rate profiles only the pids. and if you dont like them you can download the original cli from emax's website

[@Dangeresque14]

Or keep the original pids in profile 1 and Andy's pids in profile 2

[@markvandesande8855]

Oh yes with a jumper it will 1s fly Awesome i can't wait to have the money to buy one.😁👍🇬🇧 Thanks Andy. 😁👍🇬🇧

[@jackmaddox4960]

I'll bet it would fit in the case if you took the foam out... Maybe..? Then the foam could be cut up to make a few pieces to wedge around it to keep it from moving around... Not the best solution, obviously, but better than taking the props off, I guess....

[@lichen901]

Hey Andy great review as always! Just a quick one from my side how would you compare this to the GepRC phantom and which one is better in your opinion? I love both GepRC & Emax products and I see the only competition in the recent toothpick hype between those 2 so far. I'll appreciate your inputs on this. Keep it up mate !

[@AndyRCchannel]

emax for power and flight time. geprc for range

[@DoRC]

Mine will be here tomorrow. Looking forward to making a review vid! There's still time to enter my giveaway if anyone is interested btw:)

[@MrEidroeg]

Hey Andy! Great video. I bought this on your recommendation and it is awesome! however, a few weeks in, I had a small crash, and lost all video. The camera and vtx work, as I have diagnosed everything correctly. any idea how to fix this issue? I assume the osd chip has somehow died but not sure how? otherwise any idea where I might be able to find a replacement board? Cheers

[@AndyRCchannel]

an osd chip dying would just get rid of the OSD. its possible the vid in and vid out trace got broken in the crash as im guessing you checked and double checked the solder joints

[@MrEidroeg]

@@AndyRCchannel ahh yea makes sense. I have resoldered and no dice. Looks like a new board. Is the original tinyhawk board the same? Seems to be the only one I can find. Cheers.

[@jdm724]

Crazy pids, but if it works for you why not. I thinks its more about filtering

[@Vynnicus]

Would your tune work on the Tinyhawk Freestyle 2?

[@FPVMgunit13]

What do you mean dont get caught out using Race band 1?? I put it on there and it works fine....or do you mean dont get caught by authorities?

[@djs134]

Looking forward to your vtx antenna fix video

[@Cc-nj2zm]

Is there a way to take an xm+ reciever and turn off the part that causes unwanted failsafes?

[@kennyl7209]

Does your tune affect the flight time or the video at all? If it doesn't maybe what we were hearing was more of a harmonic rather than oscillation?

[@AndyRCchannel]

Yes it improves the flight time because the energy isn't being used up in heat. Harmonics wouldn't go away if the tune was changed due to it being an acoustic artifact

[@FlyingRun]

you think that it can support a Gopro hero 5 or Session 5? :D

[@Retset]

Thanks for the review. Sort of a "Toothpick Plus"! Would an XM+/R-XSR be a sensible upgrade? I see it has the UART spare. I got into Frsky for my quads very recently so have an X9 Lite = no D8. I don't want to buy a module just for this ...

[@AndyRCchannel]

yes you can fit a full range receiver. Cheers

[@droneable1717]

Do you know how to bind it with Taranis x9 lite, since it is using d16?

[@timbobain]

Hi Andy,will this bind with the jumper t8sg? Cheers

[@mdh2006]

Good honest review. GJ Andy.

[@naufeltajudeen3769]

You always do a thorough job, thanks!

[@danwood6726]

Can I use my EMAX rtf goggles etc from the original Tinyhawk with the freestyle Andy.?

[@mantisfpv4514]

Yes you can use the goggles right away. You have to do some configuring to get the RTF controller to work.👇👇👇 kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKnMcpyji7V8arM Its should be the same as the Tinyhawk s since they use the same board.

[@commitfpv]

Would it be possible to replace the vtx with the unify pro32 nano, and add a crossfire nano rx?

[@jonathanulery1610]

hate to tell you but that bottom plate will definately break its wise to have spares emax has them 8.99

[@Leonn_.]

Hey man! Would you try running it on 1s? (Frequent flyer did it aswell)

[@mantisfpv4514]

I have a video on my Channel with it on One S if you would like to see

[@playmatee1]

what do i need to change in BF after adding a flysky receiver ? (and what could go wrong? )

[@jake5ter1]

Just picked one up. Thanks for the 10% off coupon Andy. Keep up the great content!

[@mikepdel]

Hi where's the coupon for this model Tinyhawk Freestyle thanks

[@dryink7735]

Do you need ham permit for this drone?

[@michaelmontgomery6388]

Hi Andy, Another great video.👍 Is there any chance you could help me please. I brought a tiny hawk 1 off eBay a few months ago, but when I plug the battery in, all it keeps doing is flashing red and bleeping, I can't seem to bind it. Granted, I've brought me the taranis x9plus and have no clue about it. I've try watching a lot off videos on how you lot set them up, but all it has done, it has confused me, and makes me feel like giving the drone thing up. So I would be very greatful if you could spair abit of your time to help me please. Keep up the good work, I love watching your channel. 👍👍

[@Life_a_bike]

Hold the Tinyhawk ~leveled when connecting the battery and you should be fine.

[@tiggerbiggo]

Emax should hire you for your expertise, their products would be even better with your knowledge :P

[@Marksmonkey1980]

Thanks for the detailed review andy. I was about to go geprc toothpick from your earlier review.... I'm thinking stick with this choice? Basis being geprc better range? 👍👍

[@AndyRCchannel]

stick with the geprc. it has less power but for a beginner its got longer range.

[@vonster22]

me too .. geprc has a 200w vtx and it is 2-4s and you can get tbs crossfire for 149

[@Marksmonkey1980]

@@AndyRCchannel thanks andy

[@zoltangremsperger5361]

I just ordered the GEPRC. it has longer range and better camera. I also ordered the 2S and 3S 300mAh batteries. (though I've ordered 5 days ago it's under backordered status at Banggood)

[@echo-_-radio]

lovin ur own pid tune those osolations are wack aparat from flyin tuning is the best bit ;) payyyce.

[@checkeredflagfilms]

Hey Andy, can you post a link to your tune?

[@kandifpv9266]

hi andy can i bind this to my turnigy evolution transmitter? thanks for the videos and keep safe mate

[@horstknatter9823]

No, emax uses frsky Receivers

[@lorentacar]

Hi Andy I double check but I found that your pids in your cli dump are no difference from original.

[@HomeDronen]

Thanks for the share my bro!

[@MiKeeGee1949]

liked your review Andy,Thanks.

[@Heiple2007]

Bravo young man, Andy. Hey Emax, - - - - - nice model! Jeff

[@olivermerritt701]

Is the 50gs with the batteries? That would be insane

[@olivermerritt701]

Ahh soz I’m an idiot

[@mantisfpv4514]

This quad or the geprc phantom?

[@mantisfpv4514]

I decided to go with the tiny Hawk freestyle. And I can say it is truly amazing. I have a couple videos on my channel if you want to check them out. Disclaimer I am a noob

[@ethicfpv]

Thanks for the review! Does it beat the geprc phantom you loved so much or not?

[@AndyRCchannel]

the geprc phantom is a toothpick model. this is a brushless micro and has way more power however for a beginner the geprc has the longer range vtx and receiver so id go with that

[@M.L.R.Z.]

How did you bind it pls help me, bought a taranis x9 lite and it's not binding...

[@illchicken]

You would have to go into Betaflight and change the receiver to be D16. Check the description of this vid.

[@illchicken]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJzceIaqadKGg7s

[@wooler78]

Andy can you put a xm-+ on this

[@manuelalvarez3394]

can you put a gopro on top of it

[@slyoldfox11]

Did any one else notice the face in the cloud......at the beginning of the flight.....

[@AndyRCchannel]

humans are pre programmed to see faces in things. I have some patterned curtains that I see faces in all the time

[@Scott_Bishell]

How does this compare to the geprc phantom? I see kabab said this was the best toothpick style he has flown, but don't think he has tried the phantom. Which would you recommend? I only have 5 inch quads at the moment.

[@l_chapo_1017]

Kabab also reviewed the geprc phantom. He likes the tinyhawk way better and guessed it's because of the weight distribution (both have 1103 motors and almost the same weight)

[@AndyRCchannel]

@@l_chapo_1017 emax for power and flight time. geprc for range. emax has way more power on a triblade but the geprc would burn out on a triblade with 8000kv 7000kv is not enough for a biblade

[@l_chapo_1017]

Ah, interesting point. Thank you for the reply!

[@glumfish6862]

How does this compare to the babyhawk series of quads?

[@AndyRCchannel]

Lighter and safer but with the same power. Just not as much range

[@glumfish6862]

AndyRC Thanks for the quick reply. So which would you recommend? I am looking for a small quad to have fun.

[@ax1573]

Nicely done Andy thorough as always.

[@iced-halyard6963]

what contoller did u use??

[@AndyRCchannel]

X9d taranis plus she but don't think they make that version any more

[@davidmyersretiredaerospace8038]

Nice quality.

[@Gienbfu]

Kabab tried some bi blade props in his video that seemed to work well too. Great review 👍

[@AndyRCchannel]

too heavy and not enough kv for bi blades.

[@thetubemeister82]

Matter of opinion it seems...Kabab swears by them. Just watched his review of this same quad.

[@3o1Golf]

can i put a gopro on it :D?

[@itsoah_fpv1509]

one question, can we use the same battery connector for tinyhawk S?

[@AndyRCchannel]

no as the tinyhawk S 2s lipo uses one ph2 connectors and the freestyle uses 2 ph2 connectors in series

[@itsoah_fpv1509]

@@AndyRCchannel how about we convert it? so on tinyhawk S we can use same like freestyle connector. it is possible?

[@Billbobaker]

On the audio is there a way to filter out the breakup?

[@AndyRCchannel]

Not really other than edit it out in the video editor and replace with non break up audio from other parts of the flight

[@Jahoosapheth]

Best review of this yet!

[@jandomingo9806]

Try some gemfan 2540. Its lighter.

[@AndyRCchannel]

I did. less power i found

[@archer4922]

At least their using solid pins on the ph2 connector. Definitely try the twin blade 65mm props on this one. I would assume the lighter weight of the props would really help out tho this one is pretty responsive with the avans on it

[@AndyRCchannel]

7000kv would be gutless 8000 is the sweet spot for the 65mm

[@archer4922]

AndyRC true. My betafpv hx100 just arrived so I’ll be testing 8000kv on 65mm 2s real soon 👍

[@f2gdfpv]

With those voltage sags I wish they added a small current reader that was tuned. Personally I would add crossfire and swap out the cam/vtx, but other than that it looks great

[@olivierdudu6213]

Geprc phantom as a better specs imho

[@dempa3]

Nice! There are so many type of multi rotors now. How about making an overview video about different types of quads? Discussing in which respect they overlap in their qualities and in which way they are different. What type of flying and what type of pilot should choose the one type or another? Should we be building some or all of these types of models to get for example value for the money, quality, performance or creative satisfaction?

[@AndyRCchannel]

its so hard to do with a new model coming out every day. ny favorites are the skystars starlord for 5 inch freestlye. for a racer id custom build 6s these days. for a beginner would be the original tiny hawk. a 3 inch racer would be the diatone gtr 369 with my tune and cinewhoop would be the geprc cinepro4k

[@dempa3]

@@AndyRCchannel Thanks for the quick reply Andy! Yes, it is definitely difficult to keep up with all the models that the manufacturers are pumping out. Therefore I thought it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on why should one fly a whoop or a 5 inch freestyle or racer or similar. How are the experiences similar and how are they different? What makes the different styles fun or a good choice so to say :)

[@RDsRCReviews]

Wow, looks awesome!! Stellar review as always Andy! Thanks for making this hobby great!

[@johndarylcacho6811]

Im buying my first drone Which drone would you prefer? Emax Babyhawk R 3 inch or this Emax Tinyhawk freestyle?

[@AndyRCchannel]

the tiny hawk original version with protectors

[@Darksagan]

First drone go with the Freestyle that Babyhawk will be too powerful.

[@stevega1000]

Thanks Andy for what I think is the best review so far (I have watched 6) just ordered one and copied your CLI Dump for when it arrives. :)

[@AndyRCchannel]

awesome let me know what you think compared to the stock

[@stevega1000]

@@AndyRCchannel Hi Andy, put your Tune/PIDs on my EM Freestyle which came last week and flew it today. Wow man what a difference, so smooth and responsive compared to the stock tune. I am well happy, thanks again mate and keep the videos coming ;)

[@archer4922]

Great review! Seems like a good one. Just wish they would’ve changed the cam and vtx. I won the tinyhawk s on their Instagram giveaway a bit back and while I love how it flys and it does seem to handle better than the original it’s not as fast to me. On 2s the speed seems just a hair faster than the 1s model. The thing I hate about both of them is the Fpv feed I get white flashes in the feed and makes it hard to see to fly. And all of a sudden today my 2s th doesn’t work. It worked fine yesterday and today nothing. No power at all. I didn’t even crash it. Weird. But overall my th with mockingbird at least in angle mode flys better but the 2s even on 1s flys way better in acro. Now for the new th freestyle it definitely seems like a great one and can still use the same batteries in 1s or 2s modes. I do like that. And of course I just ordered the betafpv hx100 Monday and now Emax comes out with this one lol. I am a Emax fanboy but I’m not sure ima grab this one I wanna wait to see what the new diatone gtb339 and gtb229 brings.

[@sbelljr]

The white flashes are multipathing, maybe consider a rhcp antenna mod?

[@archer4922]

Sam Bell I’ve tried the axii micro still didn’t work. Even being miles out of town no where near cell towers it still happens.

[@bentray1908]

Can loading the tune cut the camera feed?

[@AndyRCchannel]

Possibly because I unlocked my vtx so if the cli is set to a channel that is locked then it won't produce a signal. Unlock the vtx to access the channel

[@gregsargeant9924]

Another absolute direct review covering everything! Wicked review Andy! 👍👍👍😎

[@Jwillie]

So this vs the geprc phantom? What would you choose?

[@AndyRCchannel]

emax for power and flight time. geprc for range

[@aTuWitty]

@@AndyRCchannel is the power consideration because of the props? I would imagine the 1103 8000kv on the Phantom aren't too much different in power than the 7000s on the Tinyhawk?

[@Jwillie]

@@AndyRCchannel ah thx. I guess I will have to get both! Lol

[@Fpvfreaky]

Andy it’s Christmas everyday for you😁

[@BigAlFPV17]

Excellent thorough review Andy!!