Not pulling for 11 Months in Honkai: Star Rail

[@zmm1337]

It sucks to be hardstuck... won't be able to pull Acheron... 😭😭😭 (there's still a week left to beat MoC 12 though...) Sometimes I stream my pain here: www.twitch.tv/zetomai

[@BailuGaming]

Yo, do you remember how you cleared MoC 10 in 1.5? you stalled Gepard by breaking him before his second turn so he couldnt summon minions and the blessing would hit him for sure (idk if you have tried that already). Also, the way to go should be playing around the blessing. you could take March in side 2 to freeze the general everytime it tries to summon minions so the blessing will allways hit the Elites. IDK if that will work, because you need 20 blessing stacks per wave to hit an Elite(each hit on a Elite=5% max HP as damage) and in wave 1 you need to get 20 hits in 3 cycles(0-1-2) and in 4 cycles for wave 2, but that may be scuffed if you cant kill the minions SUD will summon, but March freeze could help with that. Sorry if you have already tried what i said, but i hope i could help you! GL on your goals man, you're the f2p Goat!

[@erasedkarma]

Its ok Mideron is unnecessary SAM our beloved will be the play

[@BailuGaming]

you could try Side 1:Serval Sushang Nat Phys MC(im thinking if QQ could be better for wave 1 to kill the TV before the end of 0c and maybe to break the Auromaton before it can summon fishes) Side 2:March Yukong Guin Ratio focusing break efficiency over damage could help a lot in delaying enemies so they can't summon minions, you could swam Yukong for Asta if that way brings more break efficiency.(Asta can also apply 1 DoT/debuff for Ratio)

[@Shinrujin]

pull her E6 :3 😆 HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@spaceglidinmio2388]

Please pull still It's fine man

[@BenkeiCh]

“What relic set are you running for-.” “4 PCS EAGLE!” “I haven’t even said Which characte-“ “4 PCS EAGLE!”

[@CHKurono]

Dear Zeto, luckily for you my man, you got me, and probably many of your viewers here, who only watch guides from their favourite creators only! The time you mentioned guidemaking, I'm already so excited to see those videos back, since let's be real here, and you probably know it as well; Your presentation skills are AMAZING! You're able to hook people up to your videos from start to end, and with you making guides, I'm sure even with all the CC server stuff going on, you can still make a good traction of views since they're so high in quality. But even then, I can't force it up to you. You control your content, so I will just hope for the best and wait for more uploads instead. I also really hope you'll manage to get into the Creator's Server soon, cuz again, we can't get enough of your guides. Godspeed dude❤

[@reismisaka7494]

Understandably MoC 12 3* can be impossible. But I think it's still valuable to see just how many stars the account can achieve. Is 0* the max? 1*? 2*? Worth a watch to see what the limit is-even-if cannot 100% MoC.

[@zmm1337]

Ya 2 star can be easily obtained. So max = 35 stars

[@Lybrel]

@@zmm1337 so we wait for the speed hack Hanya

[@ImxxFuZe]

Can't wait for the E6S5 Acheron Showcase!

[@ellechi7337]

Love your warpless series videos Zmm! They are all so entertaining. For the new challenge, my guess is full staring moc with new account in some time limit

[@AlohaCxbe]

It sounds boring but value wise and strength wise, E6ing supports is usually more impactful than E6ing DPS. Most DPS E6 aren’t that great, but for example E6 Luocha is the strongest E6 in the game with the most overloaded stats and new mechanics added to his kit. E6ing a DPS isn’t as boring and more fun though, and ofc it’s satisfying to see your favourite character E6ed and soloing moc

[@zmm1337]

Thanks for the insight! I'm hoping that March v2 will be a support cause that's the other character I am eyeing

[@Y_o_r_u]

E6 loucha just become a debuff+shield+buff+heal.

[@RandomBoi-nd5zf]

Imagine having a support so powerful that you can make any dps you feel like playing feel broken

[@melopilled]

you're so right that's why my goal is to e6 luocha, sparkle, and fu xuan lol

[@ennoffp]

Really? His E6 is good, but his E2 and E4 aren't that good tbh. His E2 buffs healing when healing a teammate that's lower than 50%, nice but his healing is already amazing and usually overcaps anyways so really not necessary. It also gives a shield when an ally is healed with his skill when they are higher than 50% health. This is mediocre for many reasons, first the shield is not even that strong, as it isn't affected by Healing Bonus, and just scales off 10% +240 of his attack, which is honestly really low. The second and more important thing is that the shield only activates when the teammate is above 50%, meaning his passive heal will never be able to grant a shield. So, you'd have to take away one of Luocha's best assets, which is his skill point positivity to give one teammate a weak shield. His E4 weakens enemies attacks by 12% when ulting. Of course, this is somewhat helpful when you need to avoid being oneshotted, but to be honest most enemies don't deal enough damage to counteract his healing anyways so generally a waste of an eidolon as it doesn't increase the team's damage in any way. It does count as a debuff though, so yay for Dr Ratio and Archeron I guess. To get to his E6 you'd have to get through some of these pretty mediocre eidolons so I wouldn't say E6 Luocha is the best E6 if I'm being honest.

[@nedlane]

I love your warpless run so much 😢❤ Don't give up your account entirely, I still would prefer you trying to beat everything with restrictions like that, it's so interesting and inspiring and your knowledge of the game is just that astonishing. Nevertheless keep up the good work! Thank you!

[@NovaEmpyrean]

One thing I've found helpful quite recently in warpless is to use Guineifen as Dr. Ratio's debuffer. Consistent dot applications and blast attacks are invaluable when fighting against death. I've found her best free lightcone to be "It's showtime" as at S5 when you meet the ehr requirements, you get your investment to ehr back as a large attack boost and now have more than enough ehr to consistently apply debuffs which really helps the strategy. Can't say I've managed to 10 cycle it yet though, but that is the closest I've got. Would want to see you continue warpless as perhaps new 4 free characters or future MoC's will be more doable

[@20127461]

hi, please consider making in depth guides for 4 stars with comparisons from similar 4 stars. It’s so hard to find up to date and in depth guides for 4 stars from creators who actually play them.

[@thcreedon]

The truest F2P and no pull account I have ever seen

[@hirugaymi]

Sad to hear about the guides but very excited for your new series! Whatever you decide to make next, it's always a pleasure to watch it!

[@darkknight9238]

You have inspired me of playing the game. Your dedication is gold.

[@erenchen8727]

Gachaless player here, yeah I’ve given up on MoC and Pure fiction. This game is much harsher in difficulty than genshin is. It could be another year of building and free content before MoC 12 is done

[@ChiefShady]

Easily one of my fav hsr creators. I hope you still put out guides, your way of doing things and approaching content is different from most.

[@ClanCrusher]

Every time Zmm mentions the four piece eagle set in his videos I take a drink. It's not a game, it's a coping mechanism.

[@user-it4wr1ss7x]

I predict that the next challenge for your channel will be that you can only use character listed as "C Tier and below" according to the Prydwen Pure Fiction and MoC Tier List.

[@zmm1337]

That's a great guess and a very unique idea :0

[@user-it4wr1ss7x]

@@zmm1337 thank you for replying to my comment, i've found your channel since your nihility swarm disaster guide! (btw that guide was amazing, it helped me clear difficulty 5)I've also started a warpless account for fun because i was inspired by yours.

[@MaWs-d9z]

11:31 no lightcone challange letsgoo

[@WeiForever]

Love that Dan Heng build! And eagle set always a great option to put on most characters. I did try floor 12 without Hanya, it would go over 6+ cycles easily even with all the eidolons, lvl95 mobs are no joke. Hopefully the game gives more character/lc for free. For the challenge, i don’t know, maybe get as many stars as possible within one patch?

[@WeiForever]

Actually Serval, Pela, Yukong, Lynx has a decent chance to 5 cycles first half

[@patatapotatoe]

yeah memory of chaos keeps getting harder every patch, as much as i love the warpless content, i bet you will deliver as always with other fun stuff !

[@ArchonKujo]

Knowing that someone who never pulled a single character yet sticks with a F2P team is Chad material.

[@jeremycase3047]

Thanks

[@jinwood]

Can he make a whale team without pulling? 🤔

[@Screwext]

@@jinwood That's his main account. This is just a second, challenge account.

[@bigmike5842]

What else is he supposed to do?

[@ehyzen]

@@bigmike5842 fr lol im confused with this comment?

[@JumpyZ_]

started this journey recently myself, but im hoping this year will give us more ways to clear MOC12. Maybe the next trailblazer path will be a huge help

[@Pogull]

I was at the moc 12 stream and you havve such a natural charisma for streaming. I know a lot of people were mad about you not reading chat, but don't worry that will come in time. In the meantime, the new account will be... NO GRINDING EVER only using relics from in game chests and only using materials pulled from the gates of hell

[@MooseRimha]

I really want to see you give mrpokke your account to review i think it would be cool and funny to see his reaction to this insane account

[@misusatriyo]

you sir are worthy of high praise and mad respect.

[@yeetlord8281]

I wish u luck for ur pulls man.

[@Xenoray1]

so pretty much close to THOUSAND PULLS on both Banners after a Year if we include Anniversy, pretty crazy

[@astikach666]

9:28 Just a quick comment on guide making. With most EN Guides, I find them lacking in the pull value analysis of a character. Most of the time, guide makers make guides on the basis of "You have got this character at the bare minimum, this is the recommended build". However, very rarely do content creators go "this is the minimum bare you need to be able to get, otherwise you shouldn't get and save for the future characters instead" or "this light cone release, let's analyse its values and see if it's worth getting". Guides are not set in stone, and the EN guide community is a bad example of it. See the CN guide community and you can understand on the variety of guides types.

[@Butterscotch2319]

I also feel the bigger creators have to get out the fastest content which leads to not as good guides with some misinformation so he can just learn from them and their mistakes and make his guides just better by profiting off of their mistakes. You can learn a lot within a few weeks after a characters release

[@scarletnoct5807]

Most people in EN don't play the game based on pull value though, so it's not worth including. People in EN usually play games for fun

[@astikach666]

@@scarletnoct5807 It's more of a case that people are hesitating between getting this character or wait for a future character, given the account state like roster and build levels. This is especially more important for F2P or low spenders, where they might not be able to get all the characters then want.

[@Bedrolicious]

Liked the video for the Lugia theme alone

[@rein5114]

To me, these early video type creator release is kinda lessen the hype when the real character came out at least to me. I mean, we usually hype af when character release on date and we summon and eagerly look for numbers and guide, but with this early video...i kinda know everything. When character release...i kinda less exited now because already know everything 1 week before 😢

[@HolySl0w]

12:50 AAAAAH you can't get the monthly "free" pulls. I didn't even think of that... that's pain

[@XMaxJunior]

it's sad that this serie is gonna take a hit after so many insane moc clutchs, but i hope your next serie will be even better, my best bet would be something like a "nuzlocke-ish" type of gameplay, where you can't use a character if it dies once or something like that also i enjoy your sondtrack choices, they really help build up the hype moments of your videos

[@TheJuicyTangerine]

Hi Zmm, I watch your guides because you employ cool strategies that other Ccs don't experiment with. I think not everything is about speed, quality and ideas are important too, and you have both

[@Blackhart-7]

I'm sorry to hear that you're stuck in such a shitty spot because of the guide making stuff. I'm really looking forward to your future work and what you come up with, cheers!

[@EddieBlake215]

I don't know what your next content would be like, but I have a suggestion for a challenge: every 2 months (or so) we get a new patch, what if you would do something like a 100 Pull challenge where you pretty much get an account to a level where you can do MoC, you are allowed to do only 100 pulls (no beginner's banner only the special banners characters & LCs) and what you get + what freebies are available is what you can use to do MoC 12 3 stars by the end of the patch. It might be a lot of work... so I don't know how much it will give back but its the first dumb idea I had when you were talking about new content so here it is!

[@oliverdrill6136]

I love your challenge videos/accounts and I love all of the other content you produce too! Don't worry too much about competition in the guide making scene, there's a reason there are multiple big channels who get a lot of views for the same character, there are a lot of people who watch guides just because they find them entertaining! Personally I'll watch whatever you put out :) As for the new series.. is it standard banner only? I tried a Genshin account like that a few years back and it was so much fun. If it's not that, I recommend trying it sometime!

[@a.dustin_]

11:31 Zero eidolon account maybe?

[@zmm1337]

🤔

[@Lim_bu]

He has destruction and preservation path MC at E6.

[@davestew5135]

@@Lim_bu They were talking about a future challenge account.

[@Kingamer521]

it's an HSR speedrun, "how fast can you clear the Jarilo-VI and Luofu forgotten hall levels on a new account", the reason I think it won't be a MOC or SU is you already milked MOC dry XD and SU will take too long to clear at high difficulty. I bet the rules would be something like: you can pull but only with the jades and free pulls you get (no swiping) and some kind of deadline.

[@mika4759]

Would be cool to see nation/affiliation-centric challenges E.g. only Herta Station/Xiaonzhou/Express teams etc uwu

[@mattheeG13]

11:31 Taking a deepdive in all the characters lore? I love a good lore series!

[@chukygames9640]

For the pure fiction 3 use March in the 1st team cause the Attack of the monkey Will be countered by shields

[@Tykoni]

I predict the new series to be a Honkai: Star Rail Nuzlocke :3

[@patricialock1862]

Oooooh

[@ababie7341]

i totally understand ur frustration with the new leak server. but i do think that theres a lot of ppl that like watching your content just bc its ur content yk? like i def don't need to watch any guides but i still watch your videos and mr. tash's videos just cause yall are funny asf !!!

[@erin.mp4]

an only astral express character run? only one path account series? other than those i have no clue what series could be in the works but whatever it is ik it's gonna be good and i'll watch!

[@lanayuu]

It was this account that inspired me to create my own, where I spend only standard passes and save jades in the hope of a 5* version of Sampo.

[@syahkise734]

"I saved 11 month on F2P account to pull for E6S5 Acheron"

[@dwdw97]

I don't know if you noticed or not, but your fire mc is lacking a bit effect res to activate the plannar passive, hence you don't get the cdmg bonus

[@yahoolocal849]

I've make an warpless account yesterday and I felt the real challenge that you can only use f2p characters and lcs and clear the moc, sw , gag, etc... at the end I hope you gusy win all the 50/50's in your pulls❤

[@AriLael-bp1fy]

Honestly I would check out your guides even if they came a bit late. You've proven to many that you know what You're talking about. And maybe if you had an f2p account that you started on the anniversary I would love to see the journey from TL1 to endgame. I know I would learn a ton from that. Much love bro

[@annazhang1434]

11:13 eagle set only challenge, you cant use other relic beside eagle set (no plannar ornament too) XD looking forward to your next challenge zeto! o/ i also recently start my own somewhat "challenge" with only using sustain character (only use preservation and abundance characters, probably will add blade too) the battle takes a while but at least im immortal lol

[@patricialock1862]

I was looking for the 4pc eagle only challenge comment surely this is it

[@nestie11]

I agree about moc 12 that stuff is kinda impossible for me even tho i have premium dps from pulling like blade and welt, i've never even come close to clearing stage 10 and 11, which makes it feel like i have to pull for all meta characters lightcones eidolons to even stand a chance in there, but yeah. I'm really impressed that you can 35* without pulling anything

[@TheLastGhostLegendario]

This odyssey was amazing thank you :D

[@efeozel9498]

definitely e6 acheron. it turns her skill damage into her ultimate damage. so ultimates are just "yay an extra oneshotting a wave". you will get a huge advantage along with only needing to build pela along with her. and doing safe sustaining stuff and good supporting

[@Misinfer]

bro has been edging his account for 331 days 💀

[@ezdone3886]

nah this is wild

[@quackbrold2483]

This is admirable, I have some experience I'd like to share as well I'm no content creator so I never really make videos of my whole journey. I managed to hoard in genshin for a long time F2P (80k near the first year, only did open-world content), and after some investment over years (c3 raiden, c0 yae, c0r1 ayaka, c2 furina), I currently have 230k primo not knowing what to do with it unless some character I really like aesthetically comes out (and they have to be strong enough). I have never had an issue with full clearing spiral abyss since the first raiden banner so I don't really use primogem for desperate clear either. Because the content never really gets more difficult, so it's much easier to hoard from my pov, primo might be saved but the fun is no where to be found, spiral abyss is too easy that I never ever read the random buff that it provides. I'm just sticking around until I eventually want to use my primogem for c6'ing couple of characters and will probably quit to watch story content on youtube only. In HSR, I managed to skip seele (everyone was so hype), I went wishless until silver wolf for the sake of future proofing knowing I would pull less characters like in genshin which I'm eventually quite wrong about that. And once I get kafka e2, more 4 stars char started reaching e6 and that's where I started full clearing every MoC consistently (3 patches iirc). And ever since I managed to also get topaz, ruan mei, black swan, I passively collect 73k jade + 90 ish limited passes currently with golden gear permanent reward being untouched. I'd say my end game experience with HSR has been more fun because I get to think more of who I should invest in (more roster/ counter pick/ pay attention to MoC/PF buff etc), and I'm quite happy that I still get this many jades at hand (6 monthly passes + 3 bp only). So I'm definitely looking forward to the future of this game, and also what you will do next as well, good luck.

[@-nice1050]

Maybe since march was confirmed to have a 5 star variant coming this year your next challenge could be a march only account and the goal could be to see how many jades you could get to guarantee 5 star march with only 4 star march

[@omeshpersaud4868]

11:31 I think the challenge will be that you'll try to zero cycle every memory of chaos as a f2p

[@EddieBlake215]

I''m not sure how the challenge was set-up but, my idea is to do it the old style - I just started - way, where you do it in two parts, aim the first part to keep all your guys alive regardless of the number of cycles and the second part to do as much dmg to get into the desired amount of cycles without caring for how many die.

[@Minotaur10]

I would guess the new challenge could be a low party member account. Like only 1 or two characters per fight. But with no restrictions on swapping them out.

[@wami3247]

you should keep a track of all the moc and pf of this acc so that people can know which patch you were able to clear and which you weren't, probably could also list the enemys as well. This could be a cool thing for you to do.

[@Yoru-k9j]

You shouldn’t do guides, guide making is overdone and generic. Your content is better than those typical guide makers lmao

[@sushcore]

I don’t know if it matters but I enjoy watching more guides even after people posting earlier ones

[@t0140]

for me personally i only watch guides after i get the character and try it myself and even then only if don't understand the kit fully.

[@Dian-p7j]

8:58 this drama only happens in EN community, CN & JP are pretty chill with this

[@alternativealan531]

random idea: beat or delete EXCEPT its standard banner pulls only. The goal is to use whatever you get from standard before the 300 pity to beat X amount of cycles of MoC + Pure fiction as well as all of GnG and swarm. Seems easier than the current challenge but I can see the difficulty coming from the shorter time limit if you are forced to spend everything all on standard (stellar jades, tickets, etc)

[@kalista2302]

You're the only content creator from hsr i actively watch, since you are the only one who makes endgame videos with a warpless account, its gonna be a sad day when you decide to spend those jades

[@WoWAltoholic]

My guess is a no sustain challenge, or a mono path challenge considering Archeron and the 2.0 trend of incentivizing multiple units of the same path/element.

[@savethprince]

I try to look at many guides from many people so I tend to look at any guides regardless of their release date, its OK if you make your guide few days past patch day

[@Assassin21BEKA]

Its so funny how crazy difference between cn and en reaction to new server.

[@kevinsanchez9009]

So sad its coming to an end😢 However, it's been great content pal! I think the next content would be trying best teams in the end game jaja Whatever it is, it will be cool! Cheers mate

[@breonix23]

Your relics are amazing. My relic rolls have been absolutely garbage. 😭

[@rsg_magfire]

I've been planning to do a defense only play through ever since the game's release but i held off because theres only 3 defense scaling characters. I even planned to make videos out of it but i don't have the resources to start making videos for KZbin or anywhere else. I hope someone else can make it a real thing. Defense only baby

[@kasumiinyan]

I'm guessing the new challenge is something similar to 'how far can you get in only (insert time)?'

[@Mike.Erman.Trout.]

Hey Zmm, been watching your videos for a while now as you are always recommended in my feed, to the point I didn't even realize I wasn't subbed 😂 rectified that mistake now, I know 1 sub won't do much but you were at 5k when I started watching you. Hope you get access to the creator's server!

[@kitoro]

will the new series be levelling up only through gameplay and no exp books?

[@Suuuushj1]

That actually could be it

[@KST_8]

11:31 I’m guessing that the new challenge account will be 1 equilibrium level behind (i.e you cannot ascend your characters past level 70 at max equilibrium).

[@namelessunnamed6544]

Its Zetover 😢

[@avidduzereader]

Now I fully understand 4pcs eagle + 150 speed = high chance win, all my harmony and nihility supports are on 4 pcs eagle with a copium amount of 140-149 speed. Harmony on lightcone with the ult-speed. Copium Copium Copium

[@carsongutierrez7072]

I am planning to this soon! Best of luck on me and I am sure I'll tag you, No Pulling for 5 Star Guru

[@shr1811]

One of the best secret weap zmm have is "eagle set"

[@speedwagon914]

Zmm i think for the older moc i think you should get Hanya . That would allow you to spam skills to charge the moc buff and clear it faster

[@tezcat186]

Man, I really respect this a lot ❤

[@monke3075]

11:31 3 star only challenge?Like only characters that are considered bad in their category,like Arlan in damage,Bailu in sustain,Yukong in buffing, etc.+3 star relics and lightcones,traces can be maxed

[@analysis726]

not me spending way too long thinking ab the challenge possibilities… it took “gun only” for me to realize how stupid i sounded

[@KING-fn2gs]

acheron E6 has so much potential

[@FREE2PLAYGOD]

higher production more consistent output ? Whatever you COOK I'M IN!

[@marvinkose1143]

If youre hitting a stroke of bad luck, getting only a couple of 5s early and lose a few 50/50s, its still Fairly possible that that amount of tickets wont even do for a single E6.

[@PoriyaChizani-vk9fh]

I would say if you intend to spend the wishes then by all means don't miss on sparkle. She will make your 4 star fps ( like serval) hit More than a 5 star unit. She's insane literally

[@DiamondXVIII]

I think seeing acheron e6s5 would be the best option imo❤

[@chukygames9640]

For serval and ratio i would consider going the new set its really good on them

[@slyferson9827]

i do have a no pull f2p account and another f2p account pulling only using the free normal tickets without spending the jades ofc the latter would be ideal for your next challenge 👌

[@TheDark78MC]

:) Thanks for the entertainment, sir.

[@椎名こえい]

For serval i prefer LC from moc shop(pompom) rather than serval one, it'll do more dmg

[@RainyYa]

Using only 4pc eagle set challenge maybe?

[@WhOaMi0.-.2]

Maybe an "only" account or a how far you can get in the story with only one character for the nect challenge Btw love your vids, keep up the good work!

[@dumbitchstella]

11:31 I think its gonna be a HSR nuslocke where you try to clear all the permanent content of the game but if a character dies it stays dead forever.

[@Hawkborat]

Seeing this just proves how much star rail rewards the players. 14 characters to use when tou have never pulled for anything. And of course, the fact Dr. Ratio is a 5 star is especially great.

[@ShinichiKudo14122]

i also started now my own kind of project. since there are alot of people doing non gacha accounts i want to do an account in which i pull on characters in which i will properly invest in. like pulling on lightcones. i think at some point it will be easy mode but for starters it might be hard since i dont have the luxury to pull on every shiny 5* ;D i thought myself: 90% of people always suggest do not pull on their lc as F2P, what if i make an account in which i exactly do that? my first target on that account will be my bae jingliu :D vertical investment might prove also good for f2p because we wont be able to raise every unit as f2p. lets see how this goes ;D

[@justashzz]

Hmmm he's doing every way to possibly play every character E.g. break effect Yukong Vs CDMG Yukong Vs support Yukong

[@samvalid]

Speed runs! Running moc and maybe PF.