Notching and Backcutting

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Workplace Safety North

Workplace Safety North

Күн бұрын

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@bombadiltreefarms314
@bombadiltreefarms314 4 жыл бұрын
The forest is a beautiful and wonderful place to work. It is also unforgiving and doesn't offer many second chances. Terrific educational videos like this one are immensely valuable. Thank you!
@MrFly2011
@MrFly2011 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I've just upgraded from an old Stihl Wood Boss to a larger MS 362 because I have a fair bit of clearing to do on my property and while I've felled a few smaller trees I wanted to get a good theoretical understanding of cutting techniques and safety before I experiment with larger trees. This video is practical, straightforward and to the point.
@gunterbecker8528
@gunterbecker8528 5 ай бұрын
Well demonstrated and presented a great opportunity for all to look at their techniques and always improve on ones knowledge!
@renostubbs8504
@renostubbs8504 6 жыл бұрын
I respect this video,cutting in the snow has to be done professionally and precisely. Thank you guys
@kcender3771
@kcender3771 5 жыл бұрын
The best video I have seen on vertical timber falling. Good job, especially the mention about skidding direction. As a young skidder operator fifty years ago, I had a faller that would leave just enough connection when he bucked logs on an above-trail fall to allow me to drag it down to the road/trail w/o disconnecting. I could easily choke it, draw it to the road and snap it off (w/o commercial damage) and go back for the next skid. Good stuff.
@copenhagensnuff5991
@copenhagensnuff5991 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you this is true and Genuine video of how to cut Timber.
@damnmyeyes7950
@damnmyeyes7950 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very good video because of the statement of examining your stump for improvement of your cut. I have cut many many trees. I still examine my stumps to see if I did it right. Good video for new guys learning to cut.
@dogpalacedogtraining
@dogpalacedogtraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an explanatory video. I took down a rotten maple so it wouldn't damage our fence we are putting up. And thanks to this video I did it on my own and it wasn't the biggest 3 but a good 16 x 16 inches and it was the first time using a chain saw. Truly good video.
@hosocat1410
@hosocat1410 6 жыл бұрын
Best instructional video on basic tree felling I've seen on KZbin. Thanks!
@dansigmon1559
@dansigmon1559 6 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video. Thanks for showing both the how and the why.
@dougouste3418
@dougouste3418 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Thank you for your effort to keep people safe and productive!
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video on the principles of felling.
@clearedhot7030
@clearedhot7030 4 жыл бұрын
Best tree cutting video on the internet.
@michaelferguson167
@michaelferguson167 4 жыл бұрын
Why do the other sites make this so complicated? This was easy to understand and by far the best explanation of the subject matter at hand presently online.
@mattvanberkel7847
@mattvanberkel7847 6 жыл бұрын
Best 1 i have ever seen!!!
@chris082681
@chris082681 6 жыл бұрын
Helping with Tornado cleanup tomorrow. I don't think I'll be doing any big felling but this safety series was great for brushing up, pun intended.
@pocket83squared
@pocket83squared 5 жыл бұрын
Clear, comprehensive, concise, professional, and factual. Thanks for a great video!
@tolun99
@tolun99 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the hinge a little narrow in some of these examples? The vertical fibers are cut almost 100%, either in the notch or the back cut. When the tree falls, the hinge is lost too early and the tree starts to twist. Just my opinion.
@matsgranqvist9928
@matsgranqvist9928 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@ixoipsop7142
@ixoipsop7142 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. See at 3:18 That shouldn't happen.
@tolun99
@tolun99 2 жыл бұрын
@@ixoipsop7142 exactly.
@TwW1178
@TwW1178 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. You don't just keep cutting until the tree falls (as shown multiple times here). You cut until the tree starts falling OR you reach the proper remaining hinge (~10% tree diameter)...whichever comes FIRST. If the latter occurs, it'll need an assist...wedges, etc.
@gunterbecker8528
@gunterbecker8528 5 ай бұрын
U didn't look at the broader picture, it gives u the various examples and most of all what not to do "Sleepyhead "!!!
@TruckTaxiMoveIt
@TruckTaxiMoveIt 4 жыл бұрын
This video is exactly what I was looking for -- the academics of how to use a chainsaw to cut down a tree. thank you very much
@wxmyjnsn
@wxmyjnsn 5 жыл бұрын
Now that was a good video!
@martinchen3838
@martinchen3838 Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation. thank you
@izzycamaro
@izzycamaro 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, this video and information is great.GOD bless
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 6 жыл бұрын
By far, best tree trunk cutting vid.
@debaterofeverythingpresent2775
@debaterofeverythingpresent2775 4 жыл бұрын
13:01I like how the worker assesses the stump then gives it a little pat like "good job boy"
@ryanjohnson985
@ryanjohnson985 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@Dmitry-ggc
@Dmitry-ggc 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting - very useful!
@ЕржанМуратбеков-о4е
@ЕржанМуратбеков-о4е 3 жыл бұрын
My respect this video.
@daveliniewski5013
@daveliniewski5013 5 жыл бұрын
WOW GREAT VIDEO-JUST LEARNED ALOT ---THANKS FOR VIDEO
@distinctivemf1918
@distinctivemf1918 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, thank you and wish me luck.
@zulhaidir5695
@zulhaidir5695 2 жыл бұрын
Sangat mendidik, terimakasih berbagi ilmu menebangnya, semangat...
@darrellbaty4127
@darrellbaty4127 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks!
@lostgriz
@lostgriz 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work!
@jimthode
@jimthode 7 жыл бұрын
The back cut at 3:20 was way too deep . The hinge was nearly useless. Watch when it falls. See 6:10 for a correct back cut.
@Jason-wc3fh
@Jason-wc3fh 6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. It's bizarre because the video itself is pretty good for the information given, but they really didn't address the dangers of over shooting the back cut and how it can make it extremely unstable and let the tree fall anywhere.
@ericsmith8961
@ericsmith8961 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Thode agreed 100%
@TheVTRainMan
@TheVTRainMan 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed... I was thinking the same. i am also surprised no mention of a wedge in the backcut. It also looked like the face/undercuts were too deep (nearly halfway through the trunk on the "v-notch").
@timlindner6326
@timlindner6326 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Every little bit of information adds up to a safer cut.
@jfparent695
@jfparent695 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Same at 1:20, 10:37, almost no uncut fiber left. (I am not a professional). I just don't like the tree to fall strait from doing the backcut. I prefer to finish with a wedge and chainsaw OFF, allowing me to concentrate on the tree, see the smallest movements and hear my what's happening. Hearing the tree falling is part of the experience.
@chadrides914
@chadrides914 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for doing such a well job putting this together!
@okabear1
@okabear1 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use the aiming lines on the back cut
@mechanicalman1068
@mechanicalman1068 5 жыл бұрын
A quick note to those watching this for instructional purposes. I can’t believe they included the video of the v notch example as it was very bad. The back cut was over cut, causing the hinge to break before the tree was down. Notice how the hinge breaks and the tree slides down the notch while still fairly upright. This can be VERY dangerous because it loses predictable directionality and can even tip back in extreme cases. Also, the sliding force could introduce pressures that could cause a split up the middle in a sick tree and can “barber chair”, even more dangerous. This is why I prefer a steep conventional notch of 70 degrees or so and a flat bottomed notch. This way the hinge breaks once the tree is fully on course and the flat bottom doesn’t allow sliding. Watch the long Husqvarna felling video for more info. It’s the way I was taught and once you hear the explanations you’ll be convinced. Felling trees can be extremely dangerous, even deadly, if you don’t understand what your doing. Stay safe.
@edwardtelling4258
@edwardtelling4258 5 жыл бұрын
Very well said
@TwW1178
@TwW1178 2 жыл бұрын
Agree...LOTS of cut hinges in this video. Both the Husqvarna and the Worksafe BC video series are excellent.
@MrThenry1988
@MrThenry1988 6 жыл бұрын
Except at 9:50. Broke off early.
@RR-et6sh
@RR-et6sh 5 жыл бұрын
I loved it! Thanks
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 6 жыл бұрын
AS MOMMA ALWAYS SAID ..................... HE WAS SUCH A NICE YOUNG FELLER.
@titoortiz5953
@titoortiz5953 6 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by how it looks so easy to make those cuts. What brand of chainsaw did they use?
@russellk.4896
@russellk.4896 5 жыл бұрын
If the saws in this video are cutting much more easily than your saw, you chain is probably either unsharpened or sharpened improperly.
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 5 жыл бұрын
There's a reason it's called a CHAINsaw. You don't run it until the chain is dull, you KEEP it sharp by periodic filing. Only takes a couple minutes, extends life of chain, bar, power-head, operator. And ... a dull chain gets grabby.
@MrThenry1988
@MrThenry1988 3 жыл бұрын
I alway make an undercut on my notch when I'm in the woods. Don't matter much in a yard or a fence row where the tree won't get hung up.
@michaeledlin9995
@michaeledlin9995 6 жыл бұрын
a lot of so called wood cutters need to watch this. what o have seen around here is they just want to get the tree down and dont care how
@elizabethtaylor9321
@elizabethtaylor9321 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Edlin dead right ! Watching epic chainsaw fail vids , just can’t believe how stupid some people are, on watching this though isn’t the hing a bit big , most courses now teaching almost level cut or half inch , I still do the same as shown here . C Taylor .
@eunicewhite9155
@eunicewhite9155 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing informational....
@gregtaylor8327
@gregtaylor8327 5 жыл бұрын
How blunt is that saw.
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
Whose boat is that boat?
@gregtaylor8327
@gregtaylor8327 3 жыл бұрын
@@donmoore7785 How longs a piece of string?
@Selkirk69
@Selkirk69 5 жыл бұрын
so why not just use a Humboldt rather than a convention ?
@ronaldwilkins6056
@ronaldwilkins6056 4 жыл бұрын
Easier to cut a conventional..
@Selkirk69
@Selkirk69 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldwilkins6056 thanks
@אוריפלסי
@אוריפלסי 5 жыл бұрын
Always important to remember to wear bright colors so the tree can see you while it falls!
@CountDomula
@CountDomula 2 жыл бұрын
Yellow jackets attack the camera at 12:32?
@outthere9370
@outthere9370 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been good if we could have seen the stump to see the result of the "cuts". Apart from that, excellent video. I liked all the safety tips. Most important. Tree's can hurt people!
@johnrogan9420
@johnrogan9420 3 жыл бұрын
The straight backcut seems like it could bind...is a downward backcut acceptable?
@TwW1178
@TwW1178 2 жыл бұрын
No, backcuts should be level. If the backcut kerf binds, it's telling you the tree has backward (opposite your notch) pressure...and needs a wedge. Wedging the backcut is a good default plan to help ensure control. Recommend the Worksafe BC video series.
@dienmayvienbich
@dienmayvienbich 5 жыл бұрын
the saw is too good,invite you to play
@missourimule2827
@missourimule2827 3 жыл бұрын
Well in my Opinion as long as you get the Tree on the Ground without Busting it and you go home in one Piece everyday and the work Crew is safe and sound ,you did your Job Correct.
@sboom1381
@sboom1381 5 жыл бұрын
wow the hinges on all these cuts were way to short!! They all broke away and trees rolled.....yikes
@markdavies4307
@markdavies4307 5 жыл бұрын
The hinge is the strip of wood holding the tree between the notch and the back cut. It should be at least 1-2 inch measure horizontally, This video never made that clear. Many of the hinges were way too small. That vertical bit of wood with the grain has no strength. This would mislead many people watching this video who dont know! There are way better videos out there that show a proper hinge.
@jedidiah5131
@jedidiah5131 4 жыл бұрын
1/10 th my friend, we professionals don't guy by inches.....as that itself is very misleading.
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. They did stress the importance of the hinge, its width and making it even. They said 10% of the diameter.
@TwW1178
@TwW1178 2 жыл бұрын
@@donmoore7785 they TALK about it, then cut right through it SEVERAL times.
@tommytt5564
@tommytt5564 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the part where the trees fell down
@elizabethtaylor9321
@elizabethtaylor9321 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the clowns on epic chainsaw and tree felling fails videos should have been watching vids like this , might have saved them a lot pain on their body and there bank balance .
@timlewis9873
@timlewis9873 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe the amount of people I see on ladder's. You can pretty much see their going down well before it happen's. People have no common sense anymore.
@suleshangodoyin
@suleshangodoyin 6 жыл бұрын
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@blueplasma5589
@blueplasma5589 2 жыл бұрын
V-notch 8:16
@csul5961
@csul5961 5 жыл бұрын
would it be safe to fell a tree digging up the roots of one side with an excavator then pushing it over with excavator?
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe yes, maybe no. And depends on what you mean by "safe".
@thomasgronek6469
@thomasgronek6469 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a John Facenda sports documentary.
@JamesWest-iu4jx
@JamesWest-iu4jx 2 жыл бұрын
To bad the tree didn't fall on the music.......why does everyone think they have to play music in their videos......very annoying
@jasonblanton7185
@jasonblanton7185 4 жыл бұрын
Making the back cut higher then the face cut is dangerous, and should only be done in the right situations by an experienced faller !!!!!
@ronaldwilkins6056
@ronaldwilkins6056 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
Source of this (mis?)information?
@nightfighter7452
@nightfighter7452 2 жыл бұрын
@@donmoore7785 that's something I was taught at a chainsaw workshop my job held this week. Apparently your back cut doesn't actually need to be that much higher unless you want to make the tree jump the stump a little. people teach to go a couple inches higher because it's a lot safer than trying to match cuts perfectly and accidentally going under. Not sure how true all of that is, though that does seem to be the way people on the west coast cut when they do Humboldts.
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 5 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that all the sawyers shown here like to make their backcuts a bit high, and pitched down towards the hinge. Takes some of the primo wood from the butt log, no?.
@marknussbaum8394
@marknussbaum8394 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Most tree cutting videos show cuts that leave way more stump than they should. I can sell a log but never have been able to sell a stump. Cut low and make more money.
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 5 жыл бұрын
And I've been known to kid some fellow firewood-cutters: "Don't leave that high stump there in the woods." IMO it's all about conservation of resources, and the butt-log potentially holds lots, for any use.
@dnash57
@dnash57 4 жыл бұрын
And less safe, as others have noted.
@TXsnowman812
@TXsnowman812 5 жыл бұрын
This is a bad video if your actually veneer cutter vs a junk tree hacker
@shaggycreatoranddestroyero5615
@shaggycreatoranddestroyero5615 6 жыл бұрын
These saws are extremely dull if you can’t keep your saw sharp you clearly don’t know how to properly cut a tree down
@alecbildeaux4774
@alecbildeaux4774 5 жыл бұрын
There is always a know it all on the bunch
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you say these saws are "extremely dull"? They cut the trees like butter.
@mikethetreeguy
@mikethetreeguy 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry , but using the top of the bar in felling a tree is incorrect , and possibly dangerous ! I'm Mike the tree guy !
@jkgkjgkijk
@jkgkjgkijk 4 жыл бұрын
I see first tree go down with no wedges, no release strap.....I'm out. This is crap.
@Boost_Addict
@Boost_Addict 2 жыл бұрын
So I just started my own chainsaw Chanel and its picking up slowly . Any tips besides being kind and polite? @boostaddict
@creektilghman9187
@creektilghman9187 3 жыл бұрын
I did it with Woodprix.
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