Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen7) - slower than before, but a better laptop overall?

[@bharat5194]

Was waiting for this review

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I hope we did not disappoint! :)

[@crazyelf1]

I find the P1 tends to go on sale much more aggressively than the gaming notebooks on Lenovo's website, so the price gap when it's on sale is much lower. For example, where I live, the Legions go for around 15-20% off around the Black Friday sales, but the P1 and thicker P16 when on sale for as much as 60% off. That's where the price gap tends to close. I really like the Sensel touchpad though -that should be standard in the future and the gap between Windows vs Apple laptops, which used to have a touchpad that no Windows laptop could match, has largely closed.

[@thesun___]

I like haptic touchpads, but the people in Lenovo should really not be diluting the Thinkpad identity by removing the trackpoint buttons, even for their own sake. However, the benefits of the trackpoint buttons are controversial.

[@matkeyboard8054]

btw what if mac book pro m4 with parallels , does this combination can beat native windows laptop that use core ultra 7 series 2 and also ryzen 9 ai 365 .. this will be interesting topic to discuss

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Good question, but since its not "native" I simply cant see this being able to compete, especially once you add a dedicated GPU into the mix!

[@hirunguyen4522]

the extra ssd for window parallels working machine would cost more than the window with core ultra 7, lol

[@Burbanana]

this laptop has many issues, i know a few people who returned this because of VERY inconsistent problems, be it touchpad, windows, drivers and what not. A quick google would show these as well, I wish reviewers also had a section called 'prominent issues'. Either way thanks as always for the reviews.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I get your point, but it would be a lot of work to research such issues and especially try to validate them. So, we mostly stick to "our" experience with our review sample!

[@Burbanana]

@NotebookcheckReviews may I ask how long you use them? The people I know had a lot of issues that were strange.

[@rey6253]

The price is ridiculous, I would not pay more than 1600EUR for this.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Im not sure, that you can get a Core Ultra 7, RTX 4060 16" laptop for this price at all, unless you make significant sacrifices to the chassis or maybe the screen.

[@Darkknight512]

ThinkPad X1E and P1's are some of the best laptops to buy used off eBay due to the availability of replacement parts.

[@rey6253]

@@NotebookcheckReviews i got a Thinkpad T14s Gen 5 few weeks ago, for around 1200EUR, and it was a joke for the price, even though it was specked out. Considering how much of a downfall Lenovo has been in the course of the past years as far as the quality is concerned, i would not trust this is worth 3000EUR, especially when Macbook is an an option and much better.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

What bothered you about the T14s?

[@simondj8572]

Indeed, for this IPS display I would not pay more than you mentioned, asking 3groud for such display it’s pure rubbery😂

[@lylewarren4391]

How many P1 generations has there been? Why not put the generation in the title?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Its the Gen 7 for 2024, I added it to the title!

[@lylewarren4391]

@NotebookcheckReviews thank you.

[@simondj8572]

In 2025 they still asking more than 3ground for low quality IPS display!😂

[@miguelangelt1445]

Entre este y el Dell Precision 5690, ¿con cuál te quedarías y por qué?

[@nishiljaiswal2216]

I wish we could get such dgpu options on the p14s at 14in form factor

[@andyH_England]

CAMM2 64GB costs over £700 in the UK for a Dell board, and that is for 4800 speed. Crucial is sold out for the higher speeds. The problem with CAMM2 is that it is much more expensive than alternatives. If you want to upgrade from 32GB to 64GB, you have to buy the 64GB and try to resell your 32GB, as you cannot simply add 32 GB. So, like with whatever laptop you buy, if you follow common sense logic, buy the new one. most laptops can be used based on your perception of the next 3-5 years of personal use, as CAMM2 will not be the solution in the near future. Most people buy modular RAM, to buy the least and upgrade cheaply. This model is £2350 in the UK with those specs, so it's hard to recommend outside of a sale.

[@eduardocanahuati7180]

i got one with a WQUXGA 60 hz display, ultra 9 cpu, and rtx 3000 ada, and the screen flickers sometimes when i open the action center on the task bar.. should i return it, or should i not worry about it?

[@itsallminor6133]

Whats better made? The lenovo p1 or the lenovo p16? I'm looking long term use graphic design. Want upgradability, strong chassis, lots of ports.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Probably the P1, but read for yourself: www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P16-G2-Laptop-Review-Improved-with-165-Hz-screen-Nvidia-RTX-2000-Ada.787612.0.html

[@gnooy13mdfk]

I can't decide between previous version of this P1, 2024 Asus G16 with OLED, 2022 Asus X16 with miniLED and Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Aura Edition. I know, it's all over the place. But for now the cheapest (Yoga) option seems most user friendly - keyboard, weight, battery, screen, touchscreen and size.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

All pretty solid options, I would even consider the Yoga Pro 9 as well. I am currently working on a video comparing the Yoga to the G16 ... might help you a little ...

[@gnooy13mdfk]

Yup, Yoga Pro 9 seems perfect on paper, but user feedback in regard to battery is so so. Moreover I couldn't find a discount for the 32gb version (EU). Neither for the Legion 7. Idk, but simply being able to run Cyberpunk or Death Stranding on e eGPU blew my mind. And Lenovo keyboards are unbeatable (in G16 it's hard to even see the letters without the backlight).

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

I've owned the gen6 P1 with an RTX 4090 and it was very good, better than this gen7 which is a step backward in my opinion. I've recently sold it and switched up to a Razer Blade 16 with the same GPU, though, to have more wattage on the GPU (P1 was limiting it to 80W to prevent overheating as it's such a slim chassis).

[@gnooy13mdfk]

I had a battery drain problem after installing windows in my P1 Gen 6. After I left it to hibernate the battery showed 95% and couple minutes later it showed a critical level. Idk if it's because it was a warehouse leftover one (though new) or just a bad apple. I might give it another try though - size and build quality is excellenr, with no gamery bs. Mine has rtx A2000 though. I have 1 more week to decide. Playing around with the bulky X16 now.

[@vasudevmenon2496]

QHD IPS? Thought QHD and above were Samsung 120Hz OLED. It seems the audio port is headphones only. I can't even get to recognise my Sony levalier mic.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Its a 2560 x 1600 pixel IPS. It should actually be a combo port ...

[@vasudevmenon2496]

@NotebookcheckReviews on T14 and P14s realtek audio console detected it as speaker. On old Dell and Lenovo which had configurable audio input or output ports within Dolby or creative audio settings app it's detected properly and works.

[@adinnugroho6544]

I seriously didn't know if this Laptop now featuring Haptic Trackpad, like Surface Laptop 7 did (Snapdragon X powered) even XPS 13 Plus that just started the trend I guess

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Yepp, they are one of the very few manufacturers betting on the haptic touchpads! I hope we will see more of them in the future!

[@ludara8697]

Wallpaper link? :)

[@TaktiiiDerBlonde]

Got one last week, but it has a problem with the screen. It is flickering in the 165hz mode, but not in the 60hz. Does anyone have an idea oder some tips for fixing this problem?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Might be worth if all of your drivers are up to date. Check your windows update (dont forget the advanced updates), see if there is anything in Lenovo's Vantage App and last but not least see if your Nvidia drivers are updated. If that doesnt not solve the problem you may have to talk to Lenovo's customer service! :/

[@TaktiiiDerBlonde]

@@denistaran do you have the version with intel ultra 9 185h and rtx4070? mine is going back the next few days... couldn`t solve the issue and it was already the second p1 gen 7 i got from lenovo. First had the exact same problem... if i only want a laptop with 60 HZ, i can also take the asus proart p16

[@TaktiiiDerBlonde]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks for the quick response, but didn`t help...

[@lacsarlacsar3566]

what about the SD Card slot, is it flushed like the Gen3, or not (like the gen 5) ? please please Lenovo make it flushed again!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Good news, its flush ;)

[@lacsarlacsar3566]

@NotebookcheckReviews great! But the trackpoint buttons are missing. Yikes.

[@AizenSousuke92]

comparing this to macbook pros, is macbook overall a better buy if you don't need windows?

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

Yes. MacBook is always the better buy if you don’t need Windows or gaming, since it’s silent, fast and offers longer battery life. Source: I own both a MacBook Air M2 13” and a ThinkPad P1 gen6.

[@AizenSousuke92]

@@little_fluffy_clouds similar. owned a m2 13in and thinkpad p14s gen 5 amd.. m2 battery life and performance is sort of better than the p14s by miles on battery mode

[@adinnugroho6544]

LPCAMM. Reminds me the phenomenal CAMM that Dell introduced in 2020 or 2021 I guess 😅. That type of RAM just excited to me to be honest 😅

[@eiceys4612]

i got the same spec for 1700 bucks. i love this laptop

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

You got to love US prices! :D

[@eiceys4612]

@@NotebookcheckReviews oh yes, i live in europe, but thanks to internationnal warranty you just need to find a good friend xD

[@thesun___]

In Lenovo's site, there's a configuration costing 2,500 USD with an IPS FHD screen, so I don't know what you're talking about.

[@eiceys4612]

@@thesun___ There are other big retailers in life besides Lenovo Store, my friend.

[@aizekpersonal6389]

Hi! As compared to Macbook Pro16 M4 Pro (base), what would be the equivalent specs for this P1 Gen 7? I'm deciding between the two.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

would love a head-to-head P1 versus Asus P16.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Unfortunately I do not have the P16 anymore. But you can compare them directly on our website.

[@andrewhawes3134]

Can it be used as a hacky sack?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Might hurt your foot!

[@uladzimir7638]

Wow! they put this ugly camera island (which also ruined X1 Carbon design) to P1. Congratulations to lenovo they kill ThinkPad design again. After 7 years of following IBM design traditions I almost believe in them)

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Why is everyone so upset about the camera up? At least its something visually interesting, and I think it looks quite decent.

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

@@NotebookcheckReviewsit’s breaking the sleek black ThinkPad design language, but I guess one could get used to it over time. The real dealbreaker is the removal of trackpad buttons and high end GPU options such as the 4090. That’s why I’ll ignore this gen and stick to the previous P1 gen6.

[@nagumosuzuno]

​@NotebookcheckReviews if only the bump added/facilitated to a better camera quality. But it doesn't, so it's useless.

[@jddplays2757]

I really like this, but the 16p seems like a better overall option. Maybe when the 16p goes on sale, I might take it.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

It is from a performance and value stand point. Its bit larger and heavier tho and you also do not get the same battery life.

[@omarcortes5754]

The company I work for has a deal with Lenovo and got one of those with a nice discount.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Sweet! Which config did you get?

[@omarcortes5754]

@@NotebookcheckReviews The ultra 7, 4070, 4k display.

[@goddesseddog]

your company should get you the laptop for free

[@omarcortes5754]

@@goddesseddog I do have my workstation but that's property of the company. The one I'm refering to is completely mine, that's why I paid for it.

[@jccnguyen]

AMD please give us the Z16 Gen 3 with Ryzen AI.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

That would be awesome!

[@JudahRichardson1]

Let me guess, no automatic keyboard backlight either 🙄

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Nope, not for this one!

[@JudahRichardson1]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Not for any Lenovo, is my point ;) idk what they have against that feature.

[@alexmason7393]

Trackpad reminds me of the t440s trackpad not good

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

We did an article about that: www.notebookcheck.net/The-return-of-the-clunkpad-Lenovo-ThinkPad-trackpad-comparison-Sensel-vs-Synaptics.920560.0.html

[@AgentZeroNine1]

I wonder what percentage of the users will even game on this to inflate the price for such a high refresh rate. It feels like the (specifically PC) laptop world is cursed with trying to serve office workers, photo editors, video editors, finance people, programmersz students and gamers. Honestly feel like the PC world needs to stop trying to satisfy gamers on non-gaming laptops. PC gamers will always complain about not being able to run some old game at 100+ hertz.

[@tac4137]

I enjoy a high refresh rate display for general productivity.

[@chestnutlee3665]

Too expensive!! In China maybe thinkpad t14p is a more appropriate choice. : )

[@KC-uf1rg]

This laptop's fans are so noisy

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Its not a quiet one, that is for sure.

[@smokingpumpkin]

What do you guys think about this gaming laptop ? Is it worth to spend 2000€ and will it handle older and new AAA games really well ? Notebook Acer Gaming Nitro 17, NH.QSCEX.006, 17.3" 2K IPS 165Hz, AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS up to 5.2GHz, 32GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX4070 8GB

[@lacsarlacsar3566]

oh crap, its the no trackpoint nav button design again. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo why oh why Lenovo!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Its better this time around: www.notebookcheck.net/The-return-of-the-clunkpad-Lenovo-ThinkPad-trackpad-comparison-Sensel-vs-Synaptics.920560.0.html

[@onetwofourfive]

“Slower than before, but better laptop” does it even make any sense?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

It is slower than the last gen, since it goes only up to an RTX 4070, but the package (chassis, keyboard, upgrade options, etc.) makes it a better and more well-rounded laptop.

[@burger-enjoyer]

Yes because it is a laptop. You have to consider not just performance but formfactor, build quality, battery life, keyboard, display and many other factors. Just watch the video.

[@alexeiz]

You say it's expensive, but a similarly spec'ed Macbook would cost $4000, whereas P1 is "only" $2500 (including Lenovo discount).

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Fair point, even though I was more referring to the windows competition!

[@blackice214]

Na a 3k MacBook would blow the breaks off this thing

[@konstantinoskotzakoulakis6841]

How can a reviewer be sponsored by a company whose products he is supposed to review (NVidia)? This is clearly a case of competing/vested interests. For example in science journals, anyone who publishes has to declare that has no competing interests/funding in the topics he is publishing... I am not accusing the specific reviewer since he seems very honest, but I am wondering on the state of the commercial product reviews...

[@mzamroni]

Meteor lame

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

ok :)