Adding Matter to Sonoff BasicR4

[@pinglow8911]

Hi there thanks for sharing the video. it's awesome. Based on your expertise, is the basicR4 possible to be installed directly with the wall light switch? usually for wall light switch will have 3 cables whereas for the basicR4 only have 2 cables input. I wonder if we can let the ground directly connected to the switch and L & N cable connected through basicR4 then to the switch?

[@MyProjectBoxChannel]

You could of demonstrated the "magic switch mode" for the new Sonoff basic. You don't need switch-mate. It can detect the transition of the changeover contacts, of a normal light switch. You just need to link the the two light switch contacts together! The Sonoff can detect the sudden dip in mains power delivered to it (the poweroff glitch). It's 🎩!!!

[@notenoughtech]

You would see the wires. My trick is better

[@MyProjectBoxChannel]

@@notenoughtech 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you do look like a magician🤣, with the switch-mate. But the built-in "magic switch" option is a pretty cool no-neutral required, at the switch-box, function😉

[@thebatu89]

@@MyProjectBoxChannel would it still work for fans?

[@MyProjectBoxChannel]

@@thebatu89 yes I think so 👍. The magic switch mode should work with ceiling fans.

[@Leonvolt28]

4:57 this new Sonoff basic also has a really interesting feature to use a light switch. You basically have to loop a 2 way light switch with itself so that the power gets interrupted for a short time when you toggle the switch. This will control the relay.

[@thebatu89]

Is that how the magic switch mode that’s advertised on their website works? So you don’t need smate with that

[@notenoughtech]

Smate is more for remote connections

[@thebatu89]

@@notenoughtech yep, hope you can do more test with magic switch mode on the next video

[@notenoughtech]

To be fair.. there are better switches for this use than R4. From my stand point it's more of a gimmick.

[@notenoughtech]

I exposed 2 pins after flashing tasmota. With that alone you can add inputs directly or unlimited inputs indirectly using serial protocol.

[@larsw.larsen4173]

Would / could you make an short description of the benefits from a newer generation of the basic R switches - what is better with R4 compared to R3. What is betterwith R3 compared to R2. All basic generations are available, at different price points - so what do I get for paying more for a new generation?🤷‍♀️. Thanks.

[@notenoughtech]

Actually you are paying the least for R4 (launch price) and as other gens will be pushed out . There is little benefit to buying older unless significantly discounted

[@PeterScargill]

Good point about the button being delicate - I just bust an original BASIC (button is the same on the new one) due to being over-enthusiastic with the top off. Around 2:10 you mention the CE certification. My main memory of the introduction of CE is how it decimated low--volume-production companies due to unfair pricing in the UK and rip-off measurement kit companies, favouring large-scale manufacturers. Meanwhile China simply bypassed all of that with their timely CE mark - or "China Export" - the only significant difference being a minor difference in spacing which an uncaring public would almost never catch. Having said that, Sonoff do seem to be using the right one. Matter - well, for now I've given up with Tasmota and Matter - you don't need that for Alexa as Tasmota supports Alexa anyway - always has - and I could not achieve satisfactory results on Google so went back to using Hardill's Node-Red software to get ANY Tasmota'd device (ESP8266 or ESP32) working with my Google Home device. BUT if the R4 DOES continue to remain price-competitive (AliExpress etc) with the originl BASIC, then why not? There is a point - the original - I just finished adding a DS18B20 to one of mine (no resistor needed) and the original has a clearly marked GPIO2 on the PCB to use for that.

[@notenoughtech]

Good thoughts on the subject. Plus the comment section works now :)

[@obijuan-]

I really do like Sonoff products. And I use a lot of RF versions. But I can't figure out the architecture what is what with this new gen remote gateway stuff. I've read it over and over. I can not figure out how I can benefit from using them.

[@JaysenPitot]

I cannot seem to find the link for the FTD flasher (9:47)

[@notenoughtech]

s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_EGVNuRf I have this one

[@eberger02]

For some reason I thought the ESP 32 C6 had matter and the ESP32 C3 only had BT and wifi, but the C3 has all of them? Just got a C6 development board; could have saved myself a couple of quid. Edited to add: Just thought Matter is multi protocol and not just Thread and does not need the Thread/Zigbee radio.

[@notenoughtech]

They need appropriate hardware encryption baked in.. but providing the hardware is up to the task you can add Matter via OTA to anything as long as it passes certification

[@neilwrightson5660]

Where is your screw driver kit from?

[@notenoughtech]

This is the one: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DlzvY7d

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Mat.

[@notenoughtech]

You're welcome!

[@squalazzo]

at 7:30, it missed a toggle?

[@notenoughtech]

I forgot to switch it back from push button mode.

[@tweebs1]

Did they ever fix the Tasmota Matter implementation on Google? or did Google get their head out of their bum and fix it? Annoying that we have a wonderful compatible "standard" but requires certification. We can all agree to use WiFi standards without blocking DIY hardware because it's not certified.

[@chuxxsss]

Morning mate, R4 . I remember do shows on the R1 sonoff.