Genetic Limits sucks, here's why... | Dead by Daylight

Genetic Limits is a new teachable perk from the Singularity. It seems like it was created to be a counter-weight to the strength of Made for This and other Exhaustion perks, but as you will see in this video, it's not very good at doing even that.
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[@Cancan86975]

The thing is, Blood Echo would have been so good here, since they were all injured, but with Genetic Limits it almost did nothing to punish them staying injured.

[@notOtzdarva]

Also Blood Echo would hit them with Hemorrhage, but this perk has no secondary effect.

[@Cancan86975]

​@@notOtzdarvaHonestly, if Blood Echo had no cool down, then it would be a very good perk, rivaling Fearmonger.

[@willlewellen1158]

would it be viable to wombo combo both blood echo and genetic limits to cover staying injured and healing ?

[@notbrandon9012]

​@@notOtzdarvaYou should try it with thanatophobia, fearmonger (so if they do gens they dont recover) and a slow down healing perk, it feels so nasty winning with this and then seeing everyone had an exaustion perk.

[@majickman]

​@@Cancan86975Wouldn't even rival fearmonger, blood echo synergizes with it. They can't recover from blood echo exhaustion while doing a gen.

[@Dweebazoid420]

I love how Otz's hair looks different in every video. I can't wait to see Otz's prestige 6 hair!

[@alpho_luny]

He should embrace his role as one the best old Trapper main and go bald

[@belafeldbusch3397]

Legend says, once Otz hair has reached Prestige 6, he turns into the legendary super trapper

[@danm7254]

I imagine a P100 Otz will have a bleach-blonde mohawk 3ft high

[@Caitlin7142]

One video he has different hair = every video he has different hair

[@vovablood]

Would it also be covered in blood like the other ones?

[@JustGunnarsen]

I think this perk would be more useful if the exhaustion effect applies when a survivor gains a health state (like if he get up by unbreakable it would apply the exhaustion)

[@thema1622]

Yeah,but at that point ¿why would you need it?

[@SindelXTrickster]

That would be so hot on plague

[@TheGamingGalaxies]

I feel like that should definitely be how the perk works, currently there is no incentive to use it on most killers, but with that change it's suddenly so useful (Especially for Plague!)

[@JustGunnarsen]

@@thema1622 well it would be better than this dog shit that it is rn

[@netecrivernetecassassins2945]

Or anytime they change a health state

[@phlojem285]

4 Adrenalines, 3 Off the Records, 2 Resiliences, 2 Made for this's, 2 Sprint Bursts, 2 Windows of Opportunity and 1 Prove Thyself. What unique and completely different builds

[@notOtzdarva]

Can't even blame the players when there's so many awful Survivor perks. Why bother right?

[@phlojem285]

@@notOtzdarva Fair, but still. It just becomes so boring when you know you won't see more than 8 different perks

[@cineva-wb1pk]

I've gotten a survivor team with about the same build( all maxed) + medkits and toolboxes, on my FIRST match as Wraith. Also my 2nd match ever

[@phlojem285]

@@Tufticles That it's boring. Everyone brings basically the best shit because we all know the other side will be bringing their best shit It's boring, we basically know what they've got before the game even starts. I wish perks were more consistent in their power levels, on both sides. That's my point

[@Kyle-bi7df]

@@phlojem285to balance every perk in the game is impossible, you should just be happy that there is even this much variety, the meta used to literally just be DS, Unbreakable, BT, and DH just a couple years ago

[@rolluponyostreet]

i do love genetic limits, but i think what it should do is “whenever a survivor GAINS a health state, they suffer from the exhausted status effect for 32 seconds” instead of the current “finish the healing action”

[@Casper.P]

That would make it better but it still has inbuilt anti-synergy because you need to chase healthy survivors there are perks like blood echoes or mindbreaker that exhaust injured survivors making them easy downs.

[@D-Doc-C]

It could afflict both people with exhaustion and it still wouldn't be op so I'd be fine if it did

[@sam7259]

People saying they love bad perks that they probably get 0 value from, because they think it makes them seem quirky.

[@fpedrosa2076]

@@sam7259 Or maybe they just like using the perk. People can like different things, it's allowed. Why do you have to be 'that guy'?

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@@fpedrosa2076 Because he's telling the truth. Liking a perk you get no value from is just stupid.

[@danm7254]

I’ve been going through a rough patch recently, yet somehow your videos always make me smile. Thank you for being you, Otz

[@notOtzdarva]

Aww thanks bud. Hope things look up soon

[@toast2401]

It really says something that I stopped playing this game years ago but still watch Otz

[@lemming3001]

I've never played the game yet I still watch every single one of Otz's videos. Something about the way he sets up a premise and then explores it over the video and lets you come to your own conclusions is addictive to me.

[@doug2555]

@@lemming3001 If you're fine doing that then thats fine. Otz makes the game seem not as frustrating because he's just incredibly patient but I know for a fact tons of players get angry all the time playing this game, especially me

[@Seoul_Soldier]

Otz is fun to watch. DBD is not fun to play.

[@lepsa8323]

Same! His videos are too entertaining

[@alive527]

​@@lemming3001same here. i think i played a match or two maybe, but ive never really played enough to say i plsy the game, and i dont plan on playing more rly, but i absolutely love watching otz play

[@georgek.5480]

The better strategy is to pair this perk with Fearmonger/Mindbreaker. This is because touching generators pauses the Exhaustion timer as well.

[@roningunslinger4511]

Thana, Scourge hook Gift of Pain, Fearmonger and Genetic Limits is my recent build I've been enjoying, it's pretty fun to run

[@basednappa]

​@@roningunslinger4511You been running it on Slinger dude?

[@TheKeeperofChaos]

"Hello friends, this is Otz, it'll be confirmed in the next Nintendo Direct"

[@lazygravy_brook]

when this perk was revealed I honestly thought it was power-crept Septic Touch, but Septic Touch actually has a few scenarios where it blows Genetic Limits out of the water, like at 5:20

[@DegrassiKnole]

If they wanted to buff Genetic Limits to S tier, make it so completing a healing action doesn't heal instantly, but instead starts a timer to regain the health state, ala Stiptic Agent

[@Maitredebo2]

That's maybe a bit too much against some strong killers but i love this idea

[@derpyduck5088]

@@Maitredebo2 Keep in mind survivors got a perk that gives them infinite toolbox recharges and another perk that gives them a free speedbost whenever they get injured AND endurance after they heal someone.

[@dipeshpatel1934]

Make it so that if they heal someone they just die, they straight up fucking die.

[@xvoidxhunter2129]

@@derpyduck5088 Its strong but killers already have a bunch of strong shit, so its not like they dont trade blows

[@NobodyNaboru]

@@dipeshpatel1934 How to spot a salty killer main

[@taszi1174]

Fun fact: Otz payed 21k auric cell for his hair cut

[@alexflorek6527]

10:08 Probably the saddest note. Imagine being nice and let David do his glyph before the down only to eat 3 adrenalines, this game really is cruel and wants you to be cruel.

[@SolanersRevengee]

sooo don’t let David do his glyph? lmaoo that would entirely be your fault and you deserve those 3 adrenalines :)

[@-elthiccy-1388]

@@SolanersRevengeeyou are the reason this game is cruel

[@YukiColburn]

@@-elthiccy-1388 I mean, it IS a channel entirely themed after Meg They're one of the evils among Survivor players

[@floofzykitty5072]

I find Fearmonger is just one of the better killer Exhaustion perks now. It used to be not that good because Dead Hard users didn't mind it that much, but a lot of these risky plays the survivors could only pull off because they had their Exhaustion perks still available to them while working on gens.

[@lachydragneel]

I use it on my legion I find it to be helpful

[@broek6075]

Yeah it's way better then it seems because if they use up their exhaustion and work on a gen it won't even fill up their bar, so it's the total gen time plus an extra 5 seconds plus their exhaustion recovery time, that they can't use their exhaustion. Against a solo q team the blindness also helps slow the game down a small bit

[@PlushLordOfTheSeas]

you missed one: people aren't going to heal right next to you, they're gonna heal someplace safe - and far away from your TR, which means good luck finding them in that 30 seconds.

[@joenorris5054]

I’ve been running genetic limits and fearmonger, so when they become exhausted their timer will pause when on a generator. So far it’s worked pretty good on my wesker

[@jamescaroline1844]

I don't see any goddamn reason of making them exhausted if you can slow down the game with perks for this or make some totems play that will be more worth it

[@АркадийАнисимов-т1я]

0:54 bro ignored the fact that adrenaline by itself inflicts exhausted for an even longer period of time

[@notOtzdarva]

Adrenaline inflicts 40s of Exhausted, but this is not affected or increased by this perk at all. So no, I'm not ignoring it. I'm just saying it's a form of healing that does NOT get affected by this perk. You might as well not have it and it will be the same outcome.

[@lazerax9]

Genetic limits basically requires Fearmonger in order to get any value whatsoever. It's just too easy to shed exhaustion by sitting on a gen. Ideally you'd also have an incentive for survivors to heal, either thana for slowdown or blood echo to lean into exhaustion (survivors that stay injured get exhausted), then throw in something like corrupt to help in early game. It's a pretty good build for some killers but it's quite literally the only way to get value from genetic limits.

[@deyontemyers4109]

Or worse...the feared and dreaded Vigil

[@candi_appel]

Hey Otz, I've been watching your content for a long while. On and off, but mostly on lately. Just wanted to let you know: Thanks a bajillion for being a funny beacon of light for me to look to in rough times. I've really, really needed it lately. Much love, Otz. Hope you continue to be prospeepus in your journey from the very bottom of my heart.

[@Jaxzun]

From my experience I think the perk is decent. In most of my matches survivors will either bring a medkit or something to heal themselves along with an exhaustion perk (sometimes made for this but mainly like sprint burst or lithe) so I think of it as they have to decide whether to use their exhaustion perk but be injured or heal and not have it. The perk icon also looks pretty cool

[@zlaggaming68]

i think a decent rework would be causing a vault speed debuff whenever you vault a window kinda like a opposite version of superior anatomy. Maybe this version of genetic limits could force survivors to slow vault windows and pallets for 10 seconds or so

[@makimakimakimakimakimaki]

in my opinion i think blood echo does a much better job by countering made for this but obviously these counters to BE like healing fast and other stuff like that, BE and GL often do well together and it helps a lot because how popular MFT is rn

[@makimakimakimakimakimaki]

ik hes doing a random perk build but BE would of helped many different times in this video

[@Kiwi-pd5mk]

Legion with Thanatophobia, Blood Echo, Genetic Limits, Purple Blade, and Jolt or another similiar perk. Thrilling Tremors would work, too. Imagine the painful stall game and guaranteed won chases. Bonus points for sending yourself to the meat plant. Tremors is insane on Gideon.

[@rtristan8572]

I though people said it was a better Blood Echo. I'm glad I wasn't wrong, it does suck.

[@BouncingTribbles]

Genetic limits is a pair perk for Death Bound. It's literally the only use I can think of for it, other than a full exhaustion theme build

[@austintomlinson7863]

The biggest problem I have with Genetic Limits is it feels *way too similar to Septic Touch to me. It's not terror radius based and lasts longer in exchange for no blindness and not helping if you interrupt the heal. I feel like both perks are mediocre and cannibalize each other. In fact, I'm worried they will avoid buffing Septic Touch now because doing so would likely make it even more similar to Genetic Limits (the first thing that comes to mind for me is removing the terror radius aspect of Septic Touch).

[@dicerson9976]

Genetic limits is another perfect example of how incredibly oblivious behavior is to the state of their own game. it's very obviously a perk designed with the old medkit superheal meta in mind, despite the fact that that meta got deleted and made basically non-existent- a fact cemented further by the introduction of perks like Genetic Limits and Made For This which punish healing and reward staying injured respectively. It honestly feels like this killer was designed a year and a half ago, then was stored in a back closet somewhere and brought out to release only now because of delays in other departments or (more likely) bad executive decisions.

[@j.o.7521]

Well they do Design the killers over a year but the perks still should be done last and changed before release

[@derpyduck5088]

The perks this chapter are complete memes. Survivor get one of the best SoloQ perks right behind Kindred imo. A perk that rewards you for getting hit. And infinite toolbox recharges with barely any drawback. Killer gets a perk that's only useful with old medkits and old dead hard. A perk that's only useful vs flashlight squads and like the 3 killers that encourages you to group up. And a perk that rewards you for losing a very specific gen...for a whopping 30s.

[@peeposleep7470]

I love how much effort you put into all of your videos, really cool to see.

[@WonderlandRogue]

Okay this video made me realise how funny I must look to killers when I constantly go back to the same gen after getting hooked 😂 going to start mix it up now

[@AskAndGamplay]

Survivors now have status indicators for their teammates but when they add something for the killer like an indicator that the survivor is affected by invulnerability or exhaustion.

[@Helena-me6mp]

these indicators should be affected by blindness, that would make the effect even remotely viable

[@AskAndGamplay]

@@Helena-me6mp Great idea

[@SolanersRevengee]

the “status” indicators were implemented to help solo-qing players get a better sense of what their teammates are doing .. whereas killers wouldn’t need any status indication because they’re already targeting a survivor to apply the status effect on. That would also mean killers would know when an unhooked survivor is no longer endured or affected by haste. The idea is all together a very poor idea but I see where you’re headed with this :)

[@Helena-me6mp]

@@SolanersRevengee So a sprintbursting survivor 99ing their sprintburst shouldnt be visible to a killer? Thats something you CANT know, even if you are a good player.

[@SolanersRevengee]

@@Helena-me6mp no that would make 99ing a sprint burst predictable which literally defeats the purpose of 99ing sprint burst. Still That wouldn’t change much so your not making a whole lot of sense 🌚

[@LethalShadow]

As a Killer main, it always surprises me how often Survivors do not bother healing. In the moment I think to myself "wow they went back to the gen without healing, that's a silly mistake now I get an easy hook", and yet, the teams who heal the least are often the ones who get the most escapes. I made builds focused on slowing down healing and had horrible results. It sucks because I feel pigeon-holed into the meta slowdown perks Corrupt and Deadlock.

[@SethWulfstone]

Agreed, I play a fair share of both and the feeling that healing seems almost completely fruitless in most circumstances feels wild. There being not much downsides if you just want to bullet down a gen, especially since people will still pack Resilience to be a little stronger in chase along with Made For This coming into the lime light to back up that thought process further.. Pretty much "counters" a fair share of killer's powers too. Insta downs end up being pointless since you'll drop in one anyway, and some maps have so many resources on them that it may be better to bait the killer into a long enough chase. The Game is especially guilty of having so many pallets in such close proximity that you can most likely run pallet to pallet, wrap around one time, then throw it and be safe for the entire match if your team is even somewhat competent.

[@Metalmimikyu]

Funny how a toxic killer will always mention that they are a killer main

[@SethWulfstone]

@@Metalmimikyu What did they say that makes them "toxic" in your eyes? Or do you have no reason and it's just one of the cool things to say nowadays?

[@Wayhoo]

If Otz ever becomes a survivor in DBD he better have different hair customization.

[@AverySadBear]

Maybe instead of just putting exhaustion perks on cool down, add X number of seconds to their exhaustion cool down next time they use it. So, if they complete a heal, a gen, an unhook. The next time they use an exhaustion perk it is put onto cool down for much longer. Would fit the theme of the perk, allow survivors to still use their perks, and give the killer a tangible benefit that would show up later into the game.

[@mgg8524]

I think it would be cool if they buffed it like it activates not only when healing but when stopping repairing or searching a chest or vaulting or any circumstance where any human can get exhausted, idk it would be cool to make this perk a little bit more usable

[@Bannith]

It's most efficient as a pressure point against healing rather than being a full on counter to exhaustion perks. I think it would pair very well with fearmonger as well. Basically forcing them to plan out gen progress to avoid being afflicted with constant exhaustion. On the flip side you can also take a couple perks that can counteract the aspects of staying injured like Thanatophobia. It creates a trade off if they refuse to or can't adapt to the exhaustion issues either way if paired right. It definitely doesn't do much on it's own though.

[@zin_d_]

thanks for the vid otz, im currently ill i have the worst cold ever my back is killing me and this vid (and all of your vids in general) have brought me some joy today, thank you :)

[@Phantom73949]

Get better soon chief

[@zin_d_]

thanks bro 🫡

[@Phantom73949]

@@zin_d_ 👍👍👍👍

[@connermiles7425]

Same been coughing my lungs out and body aches. Hopefully we get well soon

[@notOtzdarva]

Get well friend!

[@MiyazakiGoonFest]

I was looking for asmr videos and u popped up on my feed. I really can’t escape DBD

[@rafaxexe]

Hi Otz, I'm not as experienced as you are, and probably you have a better eye for these things, but didn't Claudette finish healing Gabriel at 7:34? that would make her exhausted by 32 seconds so just until 8:06, since she was running for the last seconds of that time, maybe she recovered while trying to blind you at 8:12. My point being, she shouldn't be exhausted when you downed her at 8:41. Paired with Fearmonger though, we would be telling a different story... 32 seconds exhaustion after healing and you can't do a gen? if you want to use your exhaustion perk? My silver ass thinks that's a big deal.

[@captainpancakes1893]

So ive only ever noticed genetic limits working on an anti exhaustion build on twins. Granted i couldn't tell if blood echo or genetic limits was working, but people were exhausted frequently enough that i know i shut down some made for this, sprint bursts, and lithes

[@yourskydad]

"Hello friends, this is Otz, according to this dimension's parameters"

[@gabrielandrade8482]

i wish there was a perk that was simply: whenever a survivor goes to the injured state, he suffers from the exhausted status effect for 3 seconds until they heal themselves it would probably make septic touch, blood echo and genetic limits useless tho-

[@jonathanmartin4919]

This is why I like running Fearmonger with Genetic Limitations, to make it so that their Exhaustion is paused while they’re working on gens

[@arcarc2663]

It wouldn't do anything about Adrenaline anyway because Adrenaline already gives exhausted? And any anti-healing perk would've looked awful in this game because they basically never healed. Even something like Sloppy would've only bought maybe a few more seconds, if it didn't instead push them to slam out gens instead of the one heal.

[@notOtzdarva]

You're right but if you bring anti-healing and they don't heal, now you have Survivors exactly where you want them (injured). But if you bring an anti-Exhaustion perk and they can still use Exhaustion freely... what's the point??

[@jamescandler4218]

Hi Otz do you post your whole video anywhere? Or just really long videos of games back to back? I’ve seen you post these but sometimes I just want to chill and watch some games back to back :)

[@TsubasaVotora]

They could make genetic limits trigger upon gaining any health states and the perk would still be low-mid level of usefulness. Fearmonger is my go-to exhaustion debuff perk because it fucks over sprint bursts just for doing gens.

[@KM-jb3vg]

I liked the part where he spawned in and all the tassles on his outfit were stuck out, like they had seen a pretty lady

[@LeRawNugretaw]

I personally think that they should reduce the duration of Sprint Burst by a second or half a second. Then completely remove the speed boost from Adrenaline. A free health state is already strong enough.

[@bensoontm5244]

Pair genetic limits with Fearmonger, they never get rid of those 32 seconds :)

[@notOtzdarva]

Use 2 perk slots that potentially do NOTHING if Survivors don't have certain perks? It's just a terrible idea I'm sorry.

[@rusticpath2244]

​@@notOtzdarvafor how common Made for This is. I think you're bound to get value out of it every game in one way or another.

[@scottmaughan1053]

Hey Otz really enjoying your streams at the moment I like the style where you add your own voice notes on these videos. I find it really helpful. Hens does the same thing

[@mythos951]

I wouldn’t say it’s worthless. For solo que teams and less experienced ones I have had it come in clutch. But with made for this being so strong right now, there is less incentive to heal, especially at higher levels and very aggressive survivors. It would be better if the exhaustion effected you after an unhook or after any type of heal(ex. Adrenaline).

[@DankSquid]

Great video! Perfect example of why I never want to play this game again, at least not as killer. Matches like this are absolutely something I’d only want to watch Otz go through. Being in a match like this yourself is hell lol

[@antoniohagopian213]

Pop would have been huge with how many time you kicked the generator.

[@shining9559]

Oooohweeee the tease at the start dude had me in the first half

[@inertia179]

Genetic limit should be "if exhausted survivors lose a health state in your terror radius, this perk activates. While the perk is active for 60 seconds. All survivors in your terror radius suffer from the exhausted effect. OR all survivors cannot perform fast vaulting for 60s

[@noiz9239]

Imo, they should make it work like fearmonger, where you get x amount of seconds of exhausted when doing any healing action, not a finished heal.

[@the_undead_birb3660]

Better Septic Touch

[@Evalora]

if this perk was going to be an actual thing you give up 25% of your perk capacity for in a game whose design actually works, it would trigger on any instance of being healed and inflict exhausted *permanently,* but it was never going to be something that actually matters - not with being so specific, not with being such a weak effect, not with that tepid duration

[@rcqrd]

“I might be naked under these clothes” aren’t we all?

[@theenduriangamer5509]

TBF when it comes to Genetic Limits as an idea- It was BOUND to be made. We have exhaustion on repairing, now we needed Exhaustion on healing. Idea as a "fix" for this perk, "When a survivor begins healing an injured (not downed) survivor that's above 67(66.666)% healing progress, the survivor suffers from the Exhaustion status effect for 32 seconds. Survivors that self heal are effected at 50% instead" since that actively rewards interrupting healing and running perks that synergize with seeing healing or healed survivors.

[@lukemiller7864]

It would be dope if it was 40 seconds, and worked anytime a survivors health state changed. Injured or gained. This would also make it work on syringes. Preferably it would not work as soon as you were unhooked

[@meistermody]

Wouldnt it be better if Genetic Limits would pop on health state change? like getting injured, downed or healed up from those states. OR a 3% hindered for 15-20 sec after getting hit maybe?

[@ColeMeCrazy]

"THE ORGANIC BODY IS SO LIMITED?" More like "THE PERK IS SO LIMITED!"

[@naia4381]

Chat said it's rude but i think Otz not respecting the gylph there kinda actually save him the game/streak

[@nor8a653]

Are we not gonna talk about this sick rhyme

[@Merc_507]

It should be if a survivor is injured for 40 seconds they get exhausted for 40 seconds this would make it way easier to know when someone has the effect

[@godjacobson3451]

honestly, in my 600 hours if playing, I didn't even know this perk existed because I've never seen it

[@wendigomaneiro8892]

One idea i had is slapping Septic Touch and Nurse's Calling (Sloppy can be interesting too) But yeah, i like the idea of Genetic Limits, but i can now see why it's not that good

[@SoulPriest]

well… it would certainly be fun if perks like Up The Ante and Claustrophobia became viable perks. There are no truly useless perks, but many which do not guarentee value. An Up The Ante could be the difference between a teammate suciding into an unhook and snowball to a win. A Claustrophobia could be the surprise perk that the killer uses perfectly or luckily to block a vault a survivor was planning on using, snowballing the game into a win. A Red Herring could be the difference between escaping through the hatch or wasting the killers time enough to secure the win. Predator could be the difference in losing an injured survivor to secure the win. This goes on. Even Furtive Chase could mean you walk into a Survivor on a gen for a free hit which wouldnt have happened otherwise, which could secure a win. Similarly, Poised can make the killer lose you and could secure a win. Like, there is genuinely no truly useless perk, they are just not consistent. It is possible to generate game-changing value with all perks in the game, but they are not guarenteed or consistent.

[@nicholite697]

Loving all these uploads. I am a huge fan of discussion videos.

[@gifowny]

I think a nice potential rework idea would be something like call of brine and skill checks, but for heals Like missing a skill check while healing yourself or others leaves you broken for 32 seconds instead of exhausted if successful heal

[@Daddix0]

when are you realistically missing healing skillchecks

[@D-Doc-C]

​@@Daddix0Coulro + unnerving presence but even then, that's 3 perk slots for a mediocre effect.

[@TheReZisTLust]

Ooh what If you miss 5 skillchecks in a row you down yourself 😂

[@avrandlane2735]

it needs a buff to be like, made for this survivor perk. it should have a secondary affect! it should reduce survivors movement speed by 1% if they're near terrain.

[@AosorarisuUnedited]

8:35 it did matter for Claudette to be exhausted she had Made for This and would have had that pallet I think.

[@GrimReaperZ_]

10:00 if he would have waited for David to finish the glyph, He wouldn't make it to that gen last second!

[@TeHappyHippo]

What if they changed it to also affect when a survivor unhooks someone?

[@Left4Sharkbait]

I honestly always figured this perk sucked, I mean I didn't even bother trying it since I don't care much about applying exhausted, but it just seemed really bad anyways, as Fearmonger or even just Blood Echo would largely work better in the scenarios I can think of.

[@Mosestrialman]

Good thing otz had genetic limits, I don’t think he would’ve won without it

[@Zerog41612]

Just combine it with blood echo, alone neither does almost nothing, combined is exhausted if heal exhausted if not, lose lose

[@jackrigby5186]

1) Should be gain a health state, not finishing a healing action. 2) Even with that, you still kinda need Fearmonger to take proper advantage of that

[@TheGreatDemon666]

Regarding the random perk challenge, wait till you hear what I got for my random perk lineup. Mettle of Man, No Mither, Overcome, and Self-Care. I still finished the challenge, but I hate having to play cautiously. As soon as I spawned in, and heard my character moaning, the first sentence out of my mouth were: “Oh for fuck sake.” The second sentence after I saw the other perks: “Why do you hate me, BHVR? I buy skins, DLC, and all that shit. I may as well just castrate myself as that would probably hurt less than this match is going to.”

[@Phrygid]

The big reason they lost this game I think was because they were so insistent on doing that gen. They and Otz fought over it from 3 gens to the end of the game, and that fighting let him get into chase easier, get way more pressure from hooks and let him hook and pressure the gen at the same time. I really think that with Prove, they could have just dispersed and went to a new gen, and they would have won the game with the 4 adrenalines.

[@CreditR01]

Some Survivors do this a lot and I don't understand it as a gen jockey. They get so greedy for one gen and start making mistakes when they could easily split up and pressure 2 others at the same time.

[@MrSen4lifE]

Just like all killer exhaustion perks, the problem is not the killer perk, the problem is Sprint Burst

[@Sprucelass]

Using it with Fearmonger is a way a different reality, since unless they want to not work on gens for 32 seconds to get it down to five instead.

[@moistdragonqueeen]

what they can do is have a mind breaker effect but with healling and rescue actions instead

[@canismajoris3959]

This is why I run Fearmonger on Ghostie. Better application of Exhaustion imo.

[@MiraculousMilk]

It's funny that you put it on Ghostface at the beginning of the video. I love it on hit and run ghostface.

[@thurvokun6571]

well the problem is, people like to be injured rn because of made for this. so that’s why blood echo is a hard counter to this because if your exhausted u can’t get your haste. i would just go blood echo especially in this meta

[@hybridflame2500]

“Hello friends this is otz, although still in development”

[@PistolSlinginMothMan]

Would be cool if it was a healing equivalent of Fearmonger, like it wouldn't necessarily be as good but would be nice (maybe)in slugging scenarios/healing interrupts

[@gaj7062]

I feel like this perk can be nasty with builds around it. Imagine this w fear monger. Now either they wait an additional 32 seconds before doing a gen just to have a 5 second wait when they're done or make the time 37 seconds which would be hard to get use out of. Especially when they can't heal or do gens in that time. Maybe run it on wraith w sloppy and thana and now they all stay injured amd suffer huge penalties or can't use their exhaustion perks

[@katieoh9557]

My favorite intro so far

[@twitchtherocket6192]

Definitely a one scenario perk that gets blown away by blood echo and fearmonger. It really needs a secondary effect. Even if they added blindness i would still choose fearmonger over it...

[@vladspellbinder]

We're all naked under our clothes Otz, that's nothing special./ That Ghostface outfit is so extra. I hate it. Yeah, the strength of Perks to swing the game is pretty crazy. Thanks for the video Otz.

[@oimeee]

u gotta try this perk with the "suffer no matter what build" which includes thana, gift of pain, fearmonger, and genetic limits.

[@Chemba7]

The fact that Otz used to dodge every lobby with an anonymous mode user…

[@hektorwojciechowski5038]

"Hello this is Otz I might be naked under these clothes." WHY IS THIS SO RANDOM😭 😭 😭

[@tikki2340]

I wonder how this perk would be if it activated whenever a survivor went up a health state

[@SilentlyFalling]

There's also the fact of people healing on the other side of the map, and then going to sit on a gen, having the perk do nothing. What if they changed it so that after they finish healing, it doesn't activate until you initiate chase with them?

[@callmetex6980]

Doesn't work. They can use Lithe, Sprint Burst, or whatever before chase starts.

[@SilentlyFalling]

@@callmetex6980 potential

[@OptimaOgitus]

I think whoever will make DBD movie absolutely SHOULD give OTZ cameo, i would go 10 times on this movie in theatres if this happens

[@SteffPls]

if Survivors would be exhausted as soon as they healed, like with Fearmonger and touching gens, it would be way better

[@derpudeldestodes4614]

It breaks my heart how you being nice and waiting for David to finish the Glyph at 9:35 would have made you not reaching the gen in time and thus losing the entire game.

[@greenasweed8100]

some perks are not working by themselves, only in synergy, i think this perk is just for set of exhaustion perks, maybe they should make it 45 secs or smthg, then u can keep surv always exhausted with this and another perks

[@colossaldonut5190]

At least Genetic Limits might have done SOMETHING compared to Blood Warden which did absolutely nothing as usual.