Your Fnaf Hot Takes 3: Spicy Verbal Diarrhea Version

[@ftrwrwbg]

The writers have no answers to 99% of the mysteries of this series. They just create a bunch of vague concepts and know that the fans will eat it up doing all the hard work for them. The fans have made it where they have to do the absolute bare minimum writing effort for every game and they know it

[@Redheart709]

this isn't even a hot take this is for sure just true

[@am3z_ssbu]

This was confirmed

[@giovannisoto4353]

I completely agree, I imagine if people started hating the mimic as much as burntrap they would 100% turn around and say that it was Eleanor from the books the whole time.

[@jessejames1928]

​@@giovannisoto4353It Was Eleanor

[@jessejames1928]

The Answers Are In The Books 📚

[@caughtintheundertow]

a hot take: spiff’s whole mapbot theory isn’t actually that far fetched 😭 it’s definitely one of my favourite fnaf theories

[@kitdoesstuff_official]

What was his mapbot theory?

[@calisorbit]

​@@kitdoesstuff_official just watch the video it's good

[@Dressup_Doll]

@@kitdoesstuff_officialI think it’s about Mapbot running the show behind the scenes and being the overlord of the Pizzaplex.

[@charlesruteal9062]

​@@kitdoesstuff_officialMore fundamentally, it's a theory that takes all of Security Breach at face value (all the glitches and raw jank are canon in his theory).

[@kitdoesstuff_official]

@@Dressup_Doll I actually like that theory lol Better villain then the Mimic

[@fakelu8576]

My hot take: Monty deserved better, his design is so cool and he could be such a great character if they let him be an actual character and not just a tool or a minor inconvenience, everyone has something, even Glamrock Bonnie but Monty just gets “he is angry, most probably destroyed Glamrock Bonnie and he probably hates Freddie”. We don’t really know anything about him other than his anger issues, he is the most neglected animatronic from the Pizzaplex.

[@jitterclick3392]

I know, they didn’t even use him in Help Wanted 2

[@Dressup_Doll]

I’m 98% sure there’s a note that says Monty would skip shows and that he didn’t even want to be in the band. I don’t particularly care about the mystery, but that’s always stayed in my mind.

[@tarakeighran2184]

A golf level in help wanted 2 would have been cool😊

[@baileybhamjee8080]

Chica should get better before Monty. Chica has been in every game except SL and is NEVER loved a lot.

[@tarakeighran2184]

How dare you chica had chances in all those games she had chances to get fleshed out and she almost never took them Monty’s only personality trait is that he’s angry and he probably killed boney and he wasn’t even in help wanted 2 so I want him to catch up too the other glamrocks personality wise at least that’s how I felt😅 feel free too disagree 😊

[@LiterallyUnlovable17]

hot take: eclipse was wasted potential imagine having him be an unstable ally stalking you through-out the game instead of mxes

[@Chonk_enthusiest]

It's not a hot take if almost everyone agrees with you.

[@baileybhamjee8080]

It ain’t a hot take if a ton of people agree with you.

[@LiterallyUnlovable17]

@@Chonk_enthusiest I just never saw anyone else hold this sentiment they just all collectively went:"awe what a sweet munchkin you are" even though eclipse felt so shoe-horned in and unearned

[@tarakeighran2184]

Why wasn’t he in ruin

[@tarakeighran2184]

I want to know why

[@jackfrosty828]

My hot take: Bon Bon is under used and under apreciated. Like, he's his own animatronic, but people treat him like he's just their to be an extention of Funtime Freddy. He is adorable, and deserves more love.

[@IzzyKDoodles]

exactly! he needs a spotlight that uses him in a way that tries to make him more intimidating, without having to rely on funtime freddy. though more things for him to star in would be nice in general

[@PixPlaysoyeaaaaa]

Yes! More attention for our small bunny boy

[@jc_art_]

I mean, would you say the same about Chicas cupcake? Mangles 2nd head? Rockstar Foxy's bird? Even bonnet? Even if bonbon and bonnet are more expressive than those others, they are all still just literal extensions of the character theyre attached to, and frankly there isnt much they could do with any of them on their own, bon bon would kind of just be a less effective biddy bab

[@Fnafbonnieisnumberone]

Yess

[@Nan-bara]

Bon Bon is his own character, but he is a tag team with funtime freddy. Like, he is ususally attached to freddy. @jc_art_. Yes, i totally agree

[@Phosypha]

HOLY, that MXES Puppet redesign goes WAY too hard

[@tarakeighran2184]

Seriously that could be worth a fortune 🔮 😅😊

[@tayloranderson7547]

For real life

[@tayloranderson7547]

For real life.

[@ghidorah15]

I just thought of something! Maybe MXES should've revealed that the Bonnie-esque appearance was just a disguise and the Puppet design was its true form.

[@not_irlon18]

​​​​@@ghidorah15 That would definitely be an interesting and cool plot twist that would be implemented in-game! I can imagine it occuring when it's being sealed into it's box.

[@ItsHim_and_ItsMe]

Hot take: mimic shouldve been forshadowed more before the books

[@AudreyArnett-si3ss]

Yeah. Like maybe an easter egg in the SB or smth.

[@wakkaseta8351]

Hard to foreshadow something that was made as damage control.

[@krdt1111]

THIS!!!! I swear everybody wants to act like mimic was set up in SB when it was so clearly damage control for burn trap 😭

[@tarakeighran2184]

That’s not a hot take your just right😊

[@cosmic_strawberry]

This shouldn't be a hot take, people shouldnt have to read books that aren't even canon to the game to understand a character that gets randomly introduced

[@HeroponSuperT]

The hot take at 5:09 actually made an error. During his first FNAF theories, MatPat actually determined that FNAF 1 took place in 1993, not in 1995 or 1997. Also, the real life murders weren’t entirely the reason he said that year for the setting. His reasoning was that the paycheck amount lined up with the minimum wage of 1993, and the date on the check was a Friday in 1993. He gave more proof of this with how in FNAF 2, the night 5 payment amount and the date being a Friday were 100% accurate to 1987.

[@Wizardjones69]

Fnaf 1 can also take place in 1992, 1991

[@profsrlojohn635]

For one, I freely admit I misremember and put 95 when I meant 92. As for why I say that, here’s a quick breakdown! The big flaw in matpat’s theory is that he assumes that the player gets paid on friday… with no real basis for it. In fact just as many people, (including myself) get paid on Thursday, not friday. After all, there’s no reason for night 1 to start on a monday, it could just as well be a sunday. He did however correctly calculate the range of 1990-1996. Additionally fnaf 2 we know for a fact ends on november 12th, 1987. A Thursday. As such, it isn’t outlandish to assume that Fazbear, like many companies, pay’s its employees on a thursday. Meaning Fnaf 1 needs to to take place in a year where november 12, is a thursday. 1992, is the only day that happens. Thus, fnaf 1 has to to take place on fnaf 2. Simply put, the math was just wrong. No hate to mat for it, it just is what it is.

[@GianniLeonhart]

Delete this right now, you need to hate matpat for no reason to be a fnaf fan

[@Wizardjones69]

@@GianniLeonhart he wasnt hating LMAO

[@rimanahbvee]

​@@GianniLeonhart ?????

[@Phosypha]

Not me smashing my PC (typing this from my phone rn) after finding out that i missed yet ANOTHER chance to type out the most baseless and uninformed FNAF take of all time to confuse our fair narrator here

[@Good_luck_.]

Can’t wait too see you here next time

[@Takejiro24]

Is it ok to ask what your take is?

[@tarakeighran2184]

I had a take 😅 it’s in the comments of this video so check it out if you want

[@NocturnalLaVenge]

Monty had such good ideas behind him. A guy who killed Bonnie (willingly or not) and regrets it, replaces his victim, gets new claws because of which he accidently destroys stuff that he enjoys and becomes progressively more frustrated-angry as the time goes on. Now we only have snippets of this ideas with no real conclusion to what he was. My condolences to all Monty fans.

[@poppydelacy6961]

honestly my hot take is that, when fnaf is basically dead, there should be a book release that tells us the story directly. Like a narrative based book that confirms some things, and also parts where scott is like "yeah i just made everything up and now i have to struggle with a weird timeline". Would come as a relief to long time fans and be a fitting end where the pieces are put together for us and everything makes sense (for once lol)

[@demetriam2408]

Unless Scott experiences godly character growth I don't expect him to admit he's made any form of a mistake, he is the "only one retcon" man after all.

[@poppydelacy6961]

@@demetriam2408 loltrue

[@miwr]

@@demetriam2408the one retcon joke never gets old bruh 😂

[@BonnieThebunny7051]

Hot take: If Glitchtrap/Burntrap are supposed to be the main villain the next games need to tell us if they are William Afton or the Mimic,we need a confirmed answer, evidence towards them being the Mimic or evidence towards them being Afton isn't enough, they can't be the main villain if we don't even know for a 100% fact who they are.

[@MichealAfton1983]

I 100% agree, we can’t go on With the story while people don’t agree/know who the main villain even is

[@SkyLord1846]

Bro woke up and spoke fax. I absolutely agree. Steel wool needs to come out and say “yes Glitchtrap/Burntrap is this guy, k thanks bye.” I’m so tired of this debate. It’s gotten pretty out of hand.

[@artbyphobia]

In my opinion Mimic is quite a sort of useless villain, making him being the next afton makes no sense

[@TheJonkler1]

@@artbyphobia The Mimic is not the next Afton.The Mimic in the basement never got to be Burntrap and Glitchtrap died in HW2 which means all of the Mimic1 AI's that mimic Afton died

[@artbyphobia]

@@TheJonkler1 I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I do not like the idea. Nothings confirmed yet.

[@clobertina8176]

Idk if it's a hot take or not... but... even though it's probably not canon, the theory of Mangle being possessed by a dog (or by an animal in general) is my favorite fnaf theory. Is it simple? Yes. Does it have little fnaf lore relevance? Also yes. But I find the concept extremely fascinating in regards to fnaf; and it, to me, makes a lot of sense considering Mangle's more animalistic behavior in comparison to all the other animatronics (plus it would make them even more unique than they are already).

[@demetriam2408]

It's such a good idea they used it in the movie, albeit on a (imo) worse character

[@aaronymous9]

YES I DEFINITELY AGREE! I’ve thought of making my “own” version or “rewrite” of fnaf by keeping the core ideas but making it more like a linear narrative, and this is one theory I really would like to add if I did this. Not an actual fan-game or fanfiction of course, just a fun little thing I can make fanart out of.

[@FrostingTheBirthdayClown]

My hot take: Lefte did nothing wrong. Theyre the only pre SW animatronic confirmed not to be haunted. They were built by Henry to do one job, bring back the puppet so her spirit could be freed. It did its job well and Henry still burns them in the end, which is messed up since 1 of the few things we learn about them in custom night is they dont like the heat. Yes they attack Michael, but as established by the other animatronics hes often mistaken for William.

[@pez.emikazoo]

Why is it messed up that Henry burns it? You mentioned it's not haunted, and it's just a machine

[@breathair69420]

True. Lefty being a robot to free the Puppet is good, Even if it puts out the Puppet, My Music or by Eletrocuting, Their are just 3 problem I have with Lefty. Why can you buy Lefty? and Why is He only 5 dollars? That is so messed up when you think about it. Lefty haves the Puppet in there, Henry's daughter. Why the heck will he not get Mad at you for Letting you buy his Dauther for 5 dollars, and use her on stage as a Robot and Tool for Entertainment, all for 5 dollars, Lefty is worth less than Pieces for Trash, and is the same worth as 6 Paper Plates, but gets Mad and does something crazy when you mess with some Egg Baby and Learn some Blue Prints, Where he locks you in a Basement by him, And were you become Insane, just to hide that Secrets like how the Scooper atractes more Remnent, Women and Ice Cream than Mike ever did in his like what 50 years of living. You can say it's a different model of Lefty that doesn't have the Puppet, Put if so, Why does he have a level 9 Lilability, And Why does Lefty get in the Office gameplay during the Night Shiff after you buy him? All I have to say is that Henry is very Questionable, Lefty is also Questionable but not as much as Henry

[@FrostingTheBirthdayClown]

@@pez.emikazoo Even not haunted, its advanced enough to be sentient

[@pez.emikazoo]

@@FrostingTheBirthdayClown It's a machine that can and will kill. Who cares.

[@FrostingTheBirthdayClown]

@@breathair69420i guess the $5 dollars is to make sure as many players as possible got them so that the true ending wasnt as hard to figure out idk

[@Bonk-sf1wm]

Much as I hate robot Charlie, it could've been used as a metaphor for how some parents project onto their children. Maybe Henry has an idealistic view of his daughter and after her death he is so focused on replicating this nonexistent "perfect" child that he neglects his wife and son (leading to sammy's death). And after Sammy dies and a robot daughter just isn't enough he abandons her and dies. Charlie feels guilt about not being enough for him and becomes obsessed with reaching impossible standards to be the perfect daughter. Meanwhile evil Charlie manipulates Charlie and tries to slow her down so that she doesn't catch William. But gradually Elizabeth's soul takes over and she starts rebelling against her father and her bad behaviour starts coming from a place of jealousy. Maybe after seeing the toxic dynamics of William and Elizabeth's relationship Charlie realises that it aligns so much with her own relationship with John and Henry. After finding out from investigation and sammy (the puppet) the truth about her father's crimes and mistakes, charlie learns to stop idolising him and becomes her own person (with support from her friends).

[@channelboxboxy5403]

I’m not sure if this is a hot take or not, but I think Glamrock Chica should’ve been the character to befriend Cassie, instead of Roxy. To me, it would’ve made much more sense. Chica has a more sympathetic personality; it would make more sense to find her voice box that way, and we can find out more about your personality like what we had in Help Wanted 2.

[@MeloniestNeon]

Hot Take: I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Monty should have been the main antagonist for the Mask-on levels of HW2. Not the whole game, mind you, but for specifically the first half before it transitions to focus more on Moon, Cassie's Dad, and of course Glitchtrap and _THE MIMIC!!!_ It both perfectly ties into the theming around Cassie's Dad, Glamrock Bonnie, and could even tie into the theory that Cassie's Dad was the one who trashed Monty between SB and Ruin, if that was explained in a Mask-Off level. He would be perfect for the main threat in the Foxy's log ride levels, and it wouldn't take away from Jack-O-Moon as he still appears in the burning carousel level, and Jacko Moon could easily replace the Baby plushies in the final non-springtrap Fazerblast level. His boss fight could be the final unlocked level in the mask-off segment, a Bonnie Bowl level, where it finally reveals if he was the one who killed Glamrock Bonnie or not (both giving Monty a cool bossfight and giving us our first in-game scene of Glamrock Bonnie not being, y'know, dead), and if so it would be a super interesting mid-boss for the game. Honestly, if nothing else, I'd just want Monty to replace the Baby Plushies or the giant bonnie face that charges you in the bowling levels, just for him to be included in the game at all, with how much wasted potential he has.

[@justsomerandomperson6506]

Hot take: Gregory isn't this horrible monster that most of the fanbase paints him as. People mainly hate him because he destroyed the animatronics, but he destroyed the animatronics because they were trying to kill him for 6 hours straight, them being hacked doesn't suddenly make that ok, especially since he never found out why they were trying to kill him, and unlike Cassie he can't get ahold of a Faz wrench which is the only thing that can reboot them(speaking of Cassie why is it ok that she can electrocute Monty and seemingly kill him for good but that's fine because he would have killed her had she not, even though Monty and the others were also trying to kill Gregory, yet somehow only Gregory is in the wrong for defending himself), and he had nowhere to hide because Freddy's room had a camera in it. Also as far as he knew maintenance workers would have arrived that morning and would have repaired them. And to anyone who wants to say he's a cold hearted for saying the animatronics deserved it, keep in mind by the time he said "They get what they deserve" the animatronics had been trying to kill him for 4 hours. I feel like him saying that is completely reasonable and more than justifiable, because again they had been trying to kill him for 4 hours at that point. Who would care about the wellbeing of the same animatronics who had been trying to kill them? Gregory clearly cares about Freddy and his wellbeing, he even risks his life twice for Freddy, but thing about Freddy is that he wasn't trying to kill Gregory. People complain about him having an attitude, even though that makes complete sense when you look his situation because who would be all calm and polite while running for their life, I imagine most people would be a bit snappy. Also he's a kid, kids have attitudes. People want to say he's a horrible person for lying to Freddy about what happened to his friends, but he didn't lie to Freddy he told him that Chica and Roxy had accidents he just left out that he caused said accident. Because who in a situation like that would tell their only ally that they had to destroy their friends? Now I don't think Freddy would have abandon Gregory and went back to his green room and ignored him after that, but again given the situation who would risk that? People say he's a psychopath for killing the therapists, even though he was under the control of Glitchtrap when that happened meaning when he did it, it was against his will(y'know just like the animatronics who people defended for trying to kill Gregory by constantly bringing up them being hacked). People say he's (somehow)a selfish monster for dropping the elevator with Cassie in it, even though it was most likely not him(especially since there is a small generator next to the elevator, what's stopping the Mimic from just smashing said generator?), and even if it was him, he wouldn't be selfish for doing that since if the Mimic is freed it would kill who knows how many people, the Mimic can hack into the Vanni mask that Cassie uses threw out Ruin which basically implanted itself into her brain so if Gregory lets her go the Mimic could easily take control of her and have her do who knows what in order to free it again, and if he couldn't save Cassie then it was either leave Cassie with the Mimic to be ripped apart or lead her to the elevator to give her a quick and painless death by dropping it. Gregory is by no means my favorite character, but I'll never understand why he's so hated. He's just a kid who's trapped in a horrible situation and who just like any other FNAF character we play as just wants to survive, and I do hope he returns in a later installment and we get to see his character fleshed out. Also small nitpick about HW2 that I've seen no one talk about, and that's Roxy shouldn't be on the title screen, she's a Glamrock animatronic all the other animatronics on the title screen with her are Funtime animatronics, she sticks out like a sore thumb. Ballora or Funtime Foxy should have been in her place instead.

[@maas1208]

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[@Dressup_Doll]

“Little Nightmares Syndrome.” Gregory is hated while Cassie is loved for some reason. They’re roughly the same, yet it’s weird how some fans can’t see that.

[@tarakeighran2184]

May I add that security breach wasent finished if it was then Gregory would have been more fleshed out just saying also I agree with you 😊

[@irysgundam0052]

This. This right here. I fully support this. I would like to thank you for pointing out the detail of Freddy's room having a security camera in it. So many people seem to have either forgotten that detail or not realized it.

[@justsomerandomperson6506]

@@irysgundam0052 I had to add that not only because I've seen so many people believe that Gregory could just hide in Freddy's room while seemingly ignoring the both the fact that there's a camera in Freddy's room as well as the fact that the other animatronics and Vanessa can easily enter Freddy's room. But I also needed to add that because I knew if I didn't someone would have replied saying that Gregory could hide in Freddy's room when he couldn't. Honestly I wish the game had made it much more clear on why Gregory couldn't hide in Freddy's room since so many people think that Gregory could have done that. Like maybe at the start of the game after Gregory failed to escape have him ask Freddy if he can just go back to his room and stay here for 6 hours. With Freddy telling him no because of the camera.

[@CaptainWobbs]

We may not know who PERFORMED the bite of ‘87, but we know for sure that the victim was Scout TF2.

[@shanmoon537]

hell yeah fellow “scout the bite victim” theory enjoyer

[@benjaminryder770]

My hot take: While I don’t see Cassie as antihero material, I could totally see her becoming an advocate for ending what amounts to enslavement of sentient animatronics. It makes sense as she sees them as beloved friends. Since many of them respond to her kindness I could totally see her building up an army of loyal followers that follow her out of love.

[@anon8036]

"Mxes should've been the Puppet" -The renowned Puppet enthusiast. You're right but I couldn't NOT stop to enjoy some more puppet saltiness, have a puppet smiley! :D

[@shumanakazawa]

31:11 I also think that Withered Chica is an underated animatronic in terms of creepiness.

[@tarakeighran2184]

Sure I would like her if she didn’t replace candy cadet in ucn

[@GhostRose6500]

Hot take: either Ennard should've been a sperate character or Yenndo should've been given more significance. I remember the days of the SIster Location teasers and how there was a timetable througjout the week for the Funtime's party and maintenance schedules and things like that. We all saw the secret fifth animatronic that was out of service and thought it would be Ennard as seen in the teasers. Then Sister Location happened and we learned that Ennard can't be this fifth animatronic because he doesn't even exist until nights 4-5. So who is this fifth animatronic? Yenndo? If so what's his deal? Where, why, what, who is he? And sure Yenndo doesn't look like anything special but hey, he was probably one of the scariest things in Help Wanted 2. And if Ennard was his full animatronic we could've seen him manipulate or abuse the Funtimes, or could've stuck around for a few more games and then we start the fire. Being Fnaf's next grand antagonist after William and Nightmare and having both Baby in the mix of the animatronics that need to burn makes more sense.

[@tarakeighran2184]

Agree 👍

[@chasejensen4658]

The idea of Henry being a full-on sympathetic villain is awesome. Great idea! Also, yeah, giving William a tragic backstory would be a bad move in the long run.

[@breathair69420]

True. Isn't Henry already kinda the bad guy in Pizzaria Simulator? I mean he burns you and the others. But hey at least you get paid for it.

[@chasejensen4658]

@breathair69420 yeah, at least he was somewhat generous.

[@smcphee8499]

Afton fan girls would definitely uwuify him even more.

[@tarakeighran2184]

Question who the fu## is running fazbear entertainment at this point cus the only owners we know about are Henry who’s dead and Will who’s ether dead or is like another version of spring trap wow this was a hot take, NO STEALING!!!!!!!😅

[@socrates546]

Henry is anti hero and William deserves to have bad childhood anyway

[@HeroponSuperT]

My hot take (Probably): Balloon Boy has a lot of mysteries that have gone unanswered. Like, why did Scott take the time to explain that Nightmare Mangle and Nightmarrione are not canon, but state that Nightmare Balloon Boy was canon? He should have explained how Nightmare BB is canon.

[@davidhong1934]

The biggest unexplained mysteries in FNaF: 1. What happened at JR from Midnight Motorist 2. How Nightmare Balloon Boy is canon 3. The FNaF 4 box 4. Whether or not the pizza is actually edible

[@tarakeighran2184]

What’s in the box hmmm 🤔 😂😂😂😂

[@shadowbowser5674]

I think that Monty did kill Bonnie, But he didn't do it by his own will, I think he was under the influence of the Mimic1/Storyteller/Glitchtrap virus, The books did say Monty was harmless before he got hacked and would often do things to get a laugh, And considering one of the messages in SB states that Monty often skips shows to go hang up on the catwalks in Monty Golf just really contridicts his supposed goal of wanting to kill Freddy and taking over the Pizzaplex, I really hope Monty gets more development in the future, Same with Bonnie, I really hope they eventually show what really happened between Monty and Bonnie in the future, I just really want to know the whole backstory so bad! Monty is my favorite FNAF character and I really hope he comes back and gets character development like Roxy did, I don't think Monty is an irredeemable monster, I think he's misunderstood, I really hope they didn't actually kill him off in Ruin, I really want to see him again so bad, I was devestated when he was cut from Help Wanted 2, And I really hope Glamrock Chica gets a redemption arc too, She really deserves one as well, I hope Roxy isn't the only one to get redeemed, I hope Chica and Monty get redeemed as well, Please bring them back Steel Wool!

[@zanvox]

I agree it would be fitting if each Glamrock get a kid and each ennact revenge on the Mimic after what he's done to them.

[@allywood-op7xm]

Yeah when I first saw the matieance logs I saw Monty didn’t get his nails done until after Bonnie just noped out of reality, because with the context with op vanny/Vanessa hacked shit

[@allywood-op7xm]

Yeah when I first saw the matieance logs Of that Monty didn’t get his nails done until after Bonnie just noped out of reality, because with the context with oop vanny/Vanessa hacked shit shits about to be nutty

[@allywood-op7xm]

Yeah when I first saw the matieance logs Of that Monty didn’t get his nails done until after Bonnie just noped out of reality, because with the context with oop vanny/Vanessa hacked shit shits about to be nutty

[@allywood-op7xm]

Yeah when I first saw the matieance logs Of that Monty didn’t get his nails done until after Bonnie just noped out of reality, because with the context with oop vanny/Vanessa hacked shit shits about to be nutty

[@badoof1944]

i love how dramatic the intro is, it’s like going to watch a horror movie and then all of a sudden the my little pony theme starts playing

[@maveroni4154]

Not really a hot take, just a thought of mine. Feel free to put it in the next one if you want! :] After Scott retired it feels like the story (at least for the games) have gotten clearer, which is a good thing. There wasn't ever enough information given before SB: Ruin to do anything besides theorize. Once SB: Ruin and Help Wanted 2 came around and got tied together, I feel like we were given enough information to at least make a vague story being told between the two. It still has theorizing, but the entire story isn't made out of that. Most games before when Scott was involved only had stories made from theories because there wasn't any information at all.

[@Dressup_Doll]

You’re actually right, wow. The three games+DLC tie in together pretty well and offer more explanations than the rest.

[@evevoli]

THIS 100%, the story is far from perfect and i feel the execution could be improved upon but it is MILES easier to understand than the clickteam era lol. you can garner a good 85% of the steel wool era's plot just from playing through the games versus needing approximately seven outside video essays and flashcards to understand the older ones 😐 people act like the story starting from help wanted is so awful but just from a writing standpoint, i don't think it's ever been this good lol

[@MahNamJeff]

@@evevoli even if i dislike the character for reasons relating to the fandom. the mimics storyline has been very straightforward.

[@StrangerInTheSnow]

My hot take? The bite of ‘83 wasn’t caused by springlocks. We’ve been wrong this whole time. Why? ‘Cause we know the locks can only go off if they’re in suit mode, but Fredbear was on stage with no one inside, which means he was in animatronic mode, which ALSO means the springs were already in place. Because of this, the bite can’t have been caused by a springlock failure based on the rules established in FNaF 3. Now what killed the Crying Child, then? Well, I wouldn’t know because FNaF isn’t real, but if you go off of Fredbear’s pixel design, it looks like his jaw is a hydronic press since it only goes up and down with no other movement. With this in mind, it’s most likely that the Crying Child got stuck and the press simply pushed down on his head until either his skull cracked or Fredbear broke because his head was in the way. (Fredbear stops moving after the big *snap* sound.) Since the Crying Child was alive long enough to get to the hospital and be hooked up to an IV drip and heart monitor, he most likely suffered from a brain bleed caused by the excessive force being pushed down on his skull, which would have knocked him unconscious. Now with that all said, I think it’s very likely that Scott either: A) Forgot how his own rules work and intended it to be a springlock failure even though it isn’t, or B) Everyone saw that and just assumed it was a springlock failure, and ran with it.

[@ultimate-phenix]

To be frank, I always thought it was common knowledge Fredbear's mouth was just mechanically going open and closed to mimic (no pun intended) singing. Is the Springlock incident theory really that popular ?

[@StrangerInTheSnow]

@@ultimate-phenix In nearly every recent timeline theory, it still gets brought up. However, I’m sure there’s a recent timeline video that points out that it isn’t a springlock failure.

[@ultimate-phenix]

@@StrangerInTheSnow Ok, I didn't know that. That's what I get for not watching timeline theories videos (since I'm confortable with my interpretaion on the matter), I guess.

[@scribblecloud]

yeah i always get annoyed when people say this so matter of fact like.. no it obviously wasnt a springlock incident, why do people even assume that

[@unusual_sandwich]

​​@@ultimate-phenixI haven't seen one other person not think that it was spring locks until now so yeah I'd say it's pretty popular

[@SPG69]

Hot take: the way Remnant works in the books is better than the games and novel trilogy Clarification: it’s an easy way to explain how the animatronics become possessed, they were inanimate objects able to move but now they’re alive through child souls

[@nanuqo2006]

They work the same it's just applied more in the Frights

[@casualcommenter7152]

I’ve said this before, but shall say it again. My (literal) hot take is that Jack-O Bonnie is awesome and highly underrated. Nightmare Bonnie is already really imposing, with the wild stare and tall head but Jack-O Bonnie is that with hollow eye sockets and on fire. We have many characters that are burnt/damaged, but only a few that are BURNING, all the time. Just another hidden gem in the roster.

[@MeloniestNeon]

The Jack-Os should have been staples for the series going forwards, like HW and HW2 show how great Jack-O animatronics can be, imagine if one of the Glamrocks literally just got set on fire and kept going, like a Tesla engine just combusting over and over, burning down the whole building, and making the VIP ending have them as a final boss.

[@platinumg.8614]

I could see it. I mean, I just started to like Jack O Chica because of her voices lines.

[@ToyFreddyGaming1987]

Us Jack-O-Bonnie lovers gotta stick together.

[@tarakeighran2184]

Roxy was set on fire🔥

[@tarakeighran2184]

Jack o ranking 4.jack o Bonnie he’s cool but not as cool as the others.🎃🔥 3.jack o chica i like her more than Bonnie cus she has a cool pumpkin 🎃 2.grim foxy he’s sick he’s not just a recolour he’s just so cool the way he dashes and he’s in princes quest which is neat cool spright❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🩹 1.jack o moon he’s such a amazing design I love seeing him in the carousel and foxy ride he’s better than eclipse in my opinion 💔❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥😊

[@aregularhorrorfan4184]

43:09 yeah I agree with the whole thing that if they don’t make garret the puppet then what’s the point. I get the people who still want it to be Charlie in a way but from a movie timeline standpoint it would be way more satisfying if the puppet was a character we already been established to then one who is just introduced. Garret already also fits some criteria by being Williams first victim. SPOILERS: and the “come find me” at the end of the film would also just hit harder.

[@ghidorah15]

I'll be very shocked if Garrett Schmidt *isn't* the Puppet. It ties in too well with what the first movie has set up.

[@Cake2019_6]

30:42 Agreed in an instant, i hate the Bite of 83 it was unnecessary and it killed the importance of the Bite of 87, Sure CC dies and Fredbears shuts down and maybe Afton goes rogue due to that but now what? We now have like 5000 Freddy restaurants, CC was only important for FNaF 4, Afton kills anyone and everything he sees but this motivation for that is really dumb "Ooh my kid's dead i'm gonna kill kids lol" while Bite of 83 being 87 instead still brings importance with the Animatronics not being able to walk around during the day

[@Wizardjones69]

I like more the bite of 87 being in fnaf 2 than fnaf 4, better cc be the vengeful spirit after be killed by afton, his own father

[@Vanny_error]

Not rly a hot take- but I hateee how some people assume that if you think Monty killed Bonnie that means you hate him for that or think he's a bad character or something. Like Idk about anyone else but for me Monty killing Bonnie (assumedly out of jealousy or something like that) would make him a much more interesting character to me and I'd actually like him more for it cuz right now he seems pretty bland. (Unless he's done something in the books I don't know about- I've only read like the first 2 TFTPP books so far and I haven't heard of him having any major role in any stories yet so I'm gonna assume he doesn't really do anything and doesn't have any character development or anything.)

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Definitely agree!

[@jesternightlight]

I really like the headcanon that Monty murdered him on accident. It would add a whole layer to him, especially if they were atleast somewhat friends before their 'big fight'. I personally don't think Monty meant to do it, and I like the idea that a part of his violence comes from the guilty conscious :)

[@Vanny_error]

@@jesternightlight ooo that's cool I don't think I've seen that perspective before! Do u have any HC's on how he might have killed him? like maybe he accidentally knocked him off the railing of Monty golf or maybe attacked him thinking it was someone else? Maybe Burntrap or somthin idk

[@Zaxon_Rapial]

You, my friend, are 100% right. This would give him some much needed character development. It would make him out to be a jealous and wrathful crocodile, though knowing steel wool, they would probably be like "oh he was being controlled!" which would just reduce what little characterization he actually has, like what happened with Vanny.

[@Vanny_error]

@@Zaxon_Rapial Yeahhh I 100% think they're going to go with the "he was being controlled" route. I mainly think that since it's the most popular theory for why he could've done it. I would loveeee for them to take the jealousy route though or at least give Monty something- but given his state in ruin I highly doubt we'll see him again unless it's in something like a spinoff game, TFTPP story, or a prequel to Ruin or SB. After I finished typing that I remembered help wanted 2 is a prequel to ruin but we don't really see him there only a couple little cameos so maybe not lol. But who knows- I mean there's a fazbear frights game coming out and I never thought those books or characters would have much relevancy (other than in theories maybe) ever again so I guess we'll just have to wait and see ^^.

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

Marrionette eXamine Escort Secure system is probably the coolest redesign both visually and in concept that this fandom has produced and needs to be in the fan rewrite of RUIN when we are done rewriting SB.

[@kingbob5858]

Your friend has TALENT, if I saw that in ruin, I would feel more edged then M.X.E.S. would ever make me feel, like, that sting that plays when M.X.E.S. appears accompanied with a little jingle of a bell, but then again, the parent nodes you have to deactivate wou.d more reminisce of Ennard. But anyway I agree, with the marione-xes thing as well as what you said about the blob's head being lefty, not funtime freddy, also fun fact! In the character encyclopedia, lefty's game appearances say that they were in special delivery, possibly because they just looked at the files or whatever.

[@Wizardjones69]

Hot take: into the pit has the best MCI scene in the series

[@tperk7815]

Brilliant Afton reference when talking about mxes design. "I knew it was a lie the moment I saw him, obviously, but it was intriguing nonetheless." Fantastic

[@JJJacko123]

My hot take is that MatPat will say something and people will just believe it without question no matter how much or few evidence there is. (BTW I love MatPats vids)

[@Wizardjones69]

"Take cake to the children is in fredbear's because its a small location"

[@bgozpjsaawhhw0898]

44:50 - adding onto the daycare attendant and vanessa thing, i want to point out that in security breach there's a security office that has moon's merch on it (down in the parts and service tunnels where we get a security badge), and if you unlock the DCA's room you find a duffle bag message in there that talks about princess quest and says something to the effect of "i can save the princess." this makes me think that vanessa and the DCA do care about each other on some level, regardless of their actual relationship (be it friends, enemies, lovers, etc, however you want to see them) the DCA lover in me hopes that we'll get at least some crumbs about a moon redemption if vanny's redemption is indeed canon. gregory deserves two extra robot dads!!

[@phybebada]

nothing better than a 1 hour video to wash the dishes

[@giovannisoto4353]

I never got a chance to post mine but I’ll keep it brief. If the technicians had the VANNI network this whole time why did Vanny have to hack the building to gain access? And why would they have their own network based on a mask of a Serial Killer? Vanessa was never a tech either. (Keep up the good work!)

[@Midnightlunar10]

Finally, someone is questioning it. I ALWAYS see that poster and wonder why the HELL a serial killer that was never confirmed to be caught got A MANUFACTURED MASK of her face. If we get some kinda mind control thing, I’m gonna be mad.

[@giovannisoto4353]

⁠@@Midnightlunar10 It also means when the reluctant follower in help wanted says “I made it myself, I hoped you would like it” when talking to glitchtrap is WRONG now. Why make a mask based on glitchtrap if it had nothing to do with him?

[@Bluehawk921]

My hot take is why the hell are people so comfortable saying FNAF, but not TADC (the amazing digital circus) or GOBB (Garten of Ban Ban). Who chooses which acronyms are viable Love your vids by the way, you can really see the effort put into them

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Thank you! XD I think it's because Fnaf kinda rolls off the tongue. At least for me, lol. Though I could get on-board with Gobb.

[@zacharymcleod8050]

😂😂😂😂 tadc may not roll off the tounge so easy but it’s a lot easier than sayin the full name

[@algotkristoffersson15]

Because the other one are not East to say from a purely Phonetic perspective

[@algotkristoffersson15]

@@zacharymcleod8050no, because that specific sequence of sounds is physically difficult to make, which those that make up the words in the full name are not.

[@demetriam2408]

GOBB sounds like a real word plus isn't popular enough to get shortened like games like COD. TADC is just simply awful to say, even if you say the letter names. F-n-a-f and FNAF both roll off the tongue, but you wind up saying t-a-c-d instead of t-a-d-c and tadcuh is just uncomfortable

[@EpikTopW]

New hot take: the FNAF lore was made up as the games came out and the overall lore is a mess of story, retcon this, oop change that so it fits, more story, edit this, etc.

[@Wizardjones69]

We NEED fnaf 2.0 versions of the og games, now with updated lore

[@maas1208]

​@@Wizardjones69or just update the existing games

[@Shadowonwater]

that's not even a hot take, it's just true, lol

[@Archie_Cooper]

The reason the story has fallen apart recently is due to the fact that Scott's cryptic storytelling makes sense for the old games, since the story we're deciphering already happened years ago. We're just piecing together the mysteries of the past, making for an 'urban legend' type storytelling. But with Security Breach on-wards, the story is happening to the characters we are playing as right now. We know nothing about the characters we play as, their motivations; hell, we don't even know why Gregory was locked at the pizzaplex or why he immediately distrusted Vanny. The cryptic storytelling still works for SB's backplot (I.E. the events leading to the mysterious staff meeting), but having the active plot presented just as vaguely is unacceptable. Also, Help Wanted 2 didn't have a story. At all.

[@СарраКарагозян]

10:20 "Ensnared" as Blob's alternative name is _great!_

[@azimuddin1890]

(8:39) I personally liked GlamRock Bonnie’s design, although he has more clothing so it was off pairing him up with Freddy, but overtime I wasn’t bothered by it. I liked the bright colors, especially the cardboard cutouts based off of him.

[@ExtravagantEthan]

The Blob is probably the games biggest potential for a twist hero. I think its one of the few remaining ‘scary’ animatronics, but would be friendly with kids based on the souls inside

[@HectorTheIII]

37:08 That's literally how it be. It's like: Vannessa This woman got brainwashed into killing people and possibly even kidnapping Gregory and brainwashing him so The Mimic can have its new "David" (Edwin's son) "She's innocent. The Mimic will pay for what it's done to her." Gregory A kid who got involved in something terrible unalived his own parents, and therapists *might* have killed his friend against his own will, having 2 years of his life stolen from him breaking out of the mind control to now having to survive 6 hours against animatronics that want rip him and meeting Freddy who's hes only known for a few minutes and now putting his trust into and now freeing the woman who tried killing her FORGIVES her and stops other disappearances from happening seals away the monster that caused this mess in the first place and now having to make hard decisions for a better future for everyone and *might* have dropped the elevator with her friend inside because she might be mind controlled and if he reunites she might kill him and Vanessa so he can't risk that and can't have the mimic going on a rampage with Cassie along its side "This kid is was never controlled he's pure evil!!! He unalived his own parents because he wants to be the new William Afton!! He destroyed Freddy's friends because he was uncaring and selfish!! He doesn't deserve Freddy he doesn't even care about him!!" This was a lot longer than I intended, but I made my point here, and y know I can tell ya now if Cassie got brainwashed into killing people or destroyed an animatronic that tried killing her. people would give her a pass, not even up for debate.

[@breathair69420]

True. People always Try to defend Vannessa, Mike, and Henry, Even though they very mean/questionable people in genaral.

[@justsomerandomperson6506]

People already give Cassie a pass for electrocuting Monty(with no remorse might I add since they love to bring up Gregory destroying the animatronics with no remorse) saying ‘Monty would have killed her had she not done it’ even though Monty and the others were also trying to kill Gregory(far more than Cassie), and both Cassie and Gregory were in near identical moments with Monty(and Roxy). Yet only Gregory is in the wrong even though the animatronics were all still functioning after he destroyed them, and Monty was no longer functioning after Cassie electrocuted him, yet somehow only she’s in the right for doing that. Wouldn't surprise me if she was killing people while under the control of Glitchtrap just like Gregory, but because she’s Cassie they would automatically give her a pass.

[@platinumg.8614]

Wait the they killed his friend?

[@irysgundam0052]

Wanna know something really sad about all that? Leading up to the Curse of Dreadbear DLC for Help Wanted, there was a teased conversation between Glitchtrap and Vanny in the source code on Scott's website. In which the former asks the latter if she has "selected one". Considering what we know in hindsight, this is Glitchtrap asking Vanny if she's found him another follower/host. And we know that the host was Gregory. This means that, by proxy, it's Vanessa's fault that Gregory was even dragged into this nonsense to begin with!

[@justsomerandomperson6506]

@irysgundam0052 We can make it even worst. Remember how in Ruin Cassie states that Freddy is Gregory’s favorite out the Glamrocks? Well what if Vanny used Freddy to lure Gregory to her? After all Gregory would not have been willing to follow Vanny to wherever she needed to take him, and if she tried to take him by force Gregory would have no doubt caused a scene and other people would’ve stopped her. So it’s very possible that she told Freddy something like “See this kid? I need you to lure him away and bring him to me.” And since Freddy wouldn’t have been on safe mode at that time he would have of course obeyed her. So all Freddy would have had to do is wait for Gregory to be alone and then start talking to him, and then eventually tell Gregory that there is a fun arcade game or a new attraction that he wants to show him, so Gregory would have followed his favorite animatronic without any hesitation to somewhere he thought was going to be fun only for him to be greeted by Vanny and brainwashed.

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

34:32 This right here shows specifically why having a theory driven story was a terrible idea. People want concrete facts to follow, not just interpretations and will actively start to insert stuff as fact if they don't get it.

[@Wizardjones69]

6:40 Thats his first fnaf theory when he connected some shooting at chuck cheese in 1993 with the lore from fnaf 1, its very tragic and the killer was arrested thankfully

[@megasizoreman5918]

I know very little about the Monty Bonny mystery situation so i won't say anything on it, but i love the bit at the end "Also Monty did it." Said so non-shelount, i love it.

[@theepurplejayy]

I don't know if this is a hot take, I just randomly found you on my search results and I loved the other fnaf hot takes but here goes: 1. do you think that when Elizabeth got scooped, it happened around the same time as the Crying Child getting his head bitten because maybe William and the Afton kids' mom went to separate locations? probably would explain why we see the brothers focused in Fnaf 4 and Sister Location is... the sister. 2. I believe Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy should have been used more. the last time we saw Shadow Freddy was in Fnaf 3? and Shadow Bonnie is now reduced to William. I don't know if I want the shadows to be explained by agony/remnant or have 2 more kids missing, but they feel.... bizarre. which is why I love them. you probably won't see this, but if you do, make sure to smile

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Have seen and am saving them! 8D

[@Wizardjones69]

Another hot take: takecake minigame was always about freddy's instead of fredbear's, it was never retconned (minus the SAVE HIM part)

[@SnowFox-gv2rn]

I think the Marrionexes idea is one of the best things I’ve heard in a long time!! We’ve gotten so many non-Bonnie rabbits lately and it’s getting very stale. Puppet is one of the most iconic animatronics in the franchise and is super underutilized. Making Marrionexes adds that familiarity to older fans while making an actually effective and creepy design (which by the way, your friend’s drawing is FANTASTIC!!!) and it gets to tie in with Puppet’s security aspect. I mean, it only make sense because the base game literally has “Security” in the title

[@thedojo1025]

The concept of puppet strings being how you control your establishment from an advertising aspect is great aswell. The puppet not being mxes is crazy, a missed opportunity and a sin to poetry.

[@borisbradara5950]

My Hot Take: Fnaf and its theories were so much more fun pre sister location, sure there wasnt as much lore but nowadays it all feels so messy

[@tarakeighran2184]

Correct

[@SpyDoTF2]

30:05 yeah, the only way the diner animatronics could attack you was if fredbear was possessed by CC and springbonnie became aggressive because William killed Charlie and he wore springbonnie and the agony of the murder passed down into the suit. And that would happen with the place being closed like Freddy Fazbear’s pizza in the fnaf movie.

[@SpyDoTF2]

Wow, thanks notrealnamenotatall

[@WingedAsarath]

This is just what I need while bundled up in bed ill - thank you for making my bedrest a little brighter ❤

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

I hope you feel better soon!

[@t-eehee7057]

51:43 Honestly I really agree with this take. The Puppet was such an underutilized character in the original, is even sadder to see that even today there is barely any further iteration of the character in newer games. And the idea you gave of how unsettling and fitting it would be for him(?) to be a security hardware in Ruin? It's so perfect I'm kinda mad it didn't happen. It could also fit even more if you consider that M.X.E.S uses the endoskeletons to stop you in a way that makes it look like it's "giving life" to them. IT COULD'VE BEEN GREAT PD: Though that aside choosing this over the Monty and Rockstar Bonnie's thingy, really doesn't help the case of Monty being the one always left behind 😭😭😭

[@Placeholder-d1p]

22:43 I think this brings up a question should Afton need a motive ? It may depend on the person on one hand even if he does have a motive it doesn't justify or excuse what he's done. And on the other hand it could humanize him more. Besides we don't really know anything about him other then " me kiddie strangler "

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

In Afton's case I don't think he entirely needs a motive- if we're going serial killer angle. Because plenty of serial killers don't need motives. Though that doesn't mean you can't add one!

[@maas1208]

​@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Maybe Afton had a Horrible Childhood

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

People are too harsh on Vanessa. She's heavily abused and traumatized and was forced to murder people against her will. Not saying that how she treats Freddy or Gregory is okay, but honestly I'm impressed that she can function at all considering her situation. Also the hatred people have for her movie counterpart is insane. When Mike does something questionable because of his trauma, he's relatable and a babygirl. When Vanessa does something questionable because of her trauma, she's a b*tch. The misogyny is wild y'all

[@azimuddin1890]

Aubergine Shaggy (from the F.N.A.F.1 movie): I’M BURNING RIGHT NOW MAN! SUCH HOT TAKES

[@skylarsketch414]

I'ver never actually done one of these before, so here's my hot take: Candy Cadet is simultaneously one of the more important characters within FNAF, but also one of the more misunderstood ones (at least, in the past year or so). I think when Candy Cadet was first introduced, everyone pretty much collectively agreed on the meaning of his stories in Pizza Sim, but since his return in the modern FNAF games, a lot of people have forgotten or even don't remember how he operates. It's not that everything he says is one to one to the story, but rather, the main plot events and morals are what's important. In Pizza Sim, the "five becoming one" relates to the collection of the animatronics and bringing them all together. In Ruin, Candy Cadet's story literally just spells out the Mimic twist five minutes before it happens. And finally, in Help Wanted 2, I believe it has something to do with the protagonist falling under Glitchtrap's control, though I'm still not entirely sure myself. My point in saying all of this is because I've noticed that the more intense FNAF theorist community that we've seen in the past year is taking his stories word for word at face value, when I think that's the complete opposite thing that you're supposed to do. P.S. The Marionxes is the greatest thing ever, actually, and seeing ideas like these makes me wish we had more competant game designers and story writers in charge of FNAF

[@TRquiet]

19:30 Aww! That’s my favorite one! They’re right, your content is delightful.

[@mikeywaysleftpinkytoe]

Literally posted just when I needed it

[@mikeywaysleftpinkytoe]

AINT NO ONE GOANNA TALK ABOT THE FAZGOO PIC AT 0:18

[@Oli6906]

25:45 small correction for ya, in the movie, they had suits and animatronic puppets. Also Foxy was a full animatronic, no suit was ever used (minus the fixed foxy deleted scenes)

[@isabelortiz1230]

Fixed foxy was also a puppet

[@Oli6906]

@@isabelortiz1230 oh really? I was unaware. Thank you

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Ah, I stand corrected! I thought when they were moving they were suits. Still though, it would be a far cry from a real animatronic. Those things be rather flimsy!

[@jmurray1110]

Yeah but those were incredible difficult to use and didn’t have any animatronic parts Also didn’t foxy require 4 puppeteers

[@Oli6906]

@@jmurray1110 I think foxy required 4 normally, and 6 to walk

[@creeperflowey2969]

The design/concept of Marionxes is amazing, and more things like *that* need to happen in canon. Taking things of the past and giving them a healthy twist is great, and would help against the modern story feeling really... *unsatisfying.* In case there's a fourth hot take compilation, Phone Dude should've gotten more lines in FNaF 3's calls. Yes, he was a one-off, because Phone Guy's been dead since 199-whatever, but at least let him make comments before playing each tape like he did on Night 2. Maybe use him for extra hints on how to access the minigames required for the good ending. Like, on Night 4, have him say something like, "one of the workers got so annoyed at the faulty wiring that while on a call with the boss, he kicked the wall under the window repeating the supplier's number", thus planting the idea of sticking the numbers from the minigame from that night's automatic minigame into the 9 tiles in front of them. Is it contrived? Probably. Just spitballing.

[@sweethistortea]

The title is everything.

[@mitochondrialarson]

Awesome to see another hot take video! You really put a lot of time and effort into each video. I truly admire how much care you put into the channel and videos! As well as I really enjoy seeing your hit takes and own interpretations of the games. (twisted ones re-write, bonnie bowl boss fight, etc) The marionnexes idea is super cool and great! It really shows how creative the community can be, with ideas that seem to be way better than the execution of the games. Anyways have a nice one and love your vids :)

[@azimuddin1890]

(18:21) I’m confused, is Vanessa mind controlled?, a reluctant follower meaning she’s not controlled but is doing what it commands?, or has a Jekyll and Hyde thing going on? What is it?

[@pengwin3746]

Its not canon but after hw glitchtrap locked vanessa's mind inside an arcade game and vanny was the alternate glichtrap supporting version. After sb she is set free and is normal

[@purplecbean]

47:42 About the MXES, the narrative that could justified it being like that is if they wanted it to represent Michael and his duty as a security guard: Someone similar to his evil father (to the point that the he is confused for his father) but fundamentally different (Glitchtrap is a rabbit, while MXES is a hare) and working as security guard of the pizzaplex.

[@crazieanimefan1]

I guess this is a hot take for me: If Security Breach was ever revamped, meaning they decided to fix the mistakes and not rush it to a definitive version of the game, the truth of what happened to Glamrock Bonnie should be one of the side quests. In another video you had, you even laid out a senario for meeting a ruined version or a withered version of Glamrock Bonnie, yet I think most of us would want the truth if Monty really did it or if he was framed, this coming from someone who believes he did the deed and was going for Freddy next. Also Gregory needs a backstory I think. Sure, one ending says he's on the streets, but to hear it from him, probably would make him more sympathetic and also how he learns so much on tinkering with the robots to upgrade Freddy.

[@Adog00]

Yes an hour of hot takes! Let’s gooo

[@СарраКарагозян]

49:19 MXES as a new Puppet/Marionette character would have been awesome! It would also tie in new characters with the old ones, which is a great way of respecting the original characters while letting them to not "come back". After Burntrap's fiasco it would stand out even more! Great video, as always!

[@chaosshiva4165]

Hot Take: I think the games needs to start a whole new continuity with bits of the old one. Maybe a series of ‘What if Games’? Maybe a Sister Location Game where CC is possessing FunFred or a Security Breach where Freddy disappeared and Glam Bonnie replaced him?

[@ov-103]

glad to see we’re on the same page about glambonnie. his cut HW2 voice lines not even having audio - just being captions left over from development - just hurts me 😭

[@amybg04]

Hot take: I actually despise the Mimic. Not really based on principle, but an animatronic that can perfectly mimic voices in a series that relies mostly on audio tapes is a recipe for disaster. If it is revealed that the mimic was alive in the original series, then Nothing in the tapes can be trusted anymore because the devs could just make up some flimsy reason for why the mimic was the one who said it. I can smell the potential retcons from a mile away. And this series has so many retcons and misinformation anyway, and this is just going to add fuel to that fire.

[@Wizardjones69]

i think scott was lying about the series having 1 retcon lol

[@teajai45]

Someone should make a video covering the FNAF timeline, but only include the stuff we knew from the first three games.

[@MaxMallard]

I don't think making William a good person before losing his son would've necessarily been a defence of his character. In fact it could potentially work as a cautionary tale about how the best of intentions can lead one to becoming a monster if thsy arent careful. A real road to hell situation. I can see an alternate reality where William was a good man. Eccentric for sure, but with good standing in his community. Then his wife left him to raise three kids, one of which being in his rebellious teen phase. The shock and pressure of the divorce would be where the cracks start to form. He still tries, but he's bitter from the experience. Now he has to work his share of the diner and wrangle three kids with only Henry to keep his sanity. For the most part, William would've kept it together, until the Fredbear incident. That's where he truly spirals, neglecting Liz and berating Mike. After all, it's all Mike's fault. He deserves to be punished. In William's mind, he's just delivering justice. He's still a good person. Just a dad punishing his child. Meanwhile, jealous of Henry's comparatively great life, William sits stewing, self-destructing. Even after his first kill, he's still bending over backwards to justify his awful actions. If Charlie came back as the puppet, maybe his son can do the same. Maybe there's still time. He just needs a few more souls... I think when people want William to start off as a good person, what they're really after is seeing his fall from grace. Sometimes you want a villain who's been evil the whole time. A maniacal bastard. Sometimes you want a villain who became evil through suffering and a series of increasingly bad decisions. William's backstory had so much potential for the latter that for some people, the idea that he was always evil just isn't compelling. That being said, in a franchise with such a large online presence, I don't trust the internet to take a tragic backstory for the character well. Media illiteracy has too often lead to the mere depiction of dark subject matter being treated as glorifying it. The problem I see in William originally being good is the potential controversy from people who don't give the idea a second of critical thought.

[@bearcoptic]

agree with all of this and also about the cautionary tale bit Always felt as if William/ springtrap as a whole felt like an urban legend or ghost story Like there is this old rotting rabbit suit with the corpse of someone who everybody thought just vanished or died 3 decades ago

[@zacharymcleod8050]

You just described one of the best best fnaf fan games of all time return to bloody nights it’s literally a fall from grace story after every shift you hear a phone call between William and Henry and as the nights go on William loses it a lil more and more until the bite happens

[@socrates546]

William can have the worst childhood ever he still would be pure evil

[@gaymedievaldruid]

I think that, yes a lot of the theories we have around fnaf are unconfirmed. We can't take any of them as canon. But I really think that Scott and steel wool are aware of the conclusions and discussions the fan base is having, and are building their stories with this in mind. Either to divert us away from those ideas, or to carve the path that the fans pointed out

[@gemrock]

My hot take about the five nights at Freddy movie is that Michael should have been Williams's son, but he was taken away from him and was adopted by Abby and Garrett's parents . Garrett got kidnapped by mistake because William was not paying attention to his kid's having Michael immortalized as a little kid in his head. Only releasing after the Mistake was made. Yes, I know that would make Vanessa and Michael brother and sister, but that's how the relationship felt in the movie or to me it did.

[@aregularhorrorfan4184]

I remember seeing theories like this when Mike’s dad casting was published and while I thought they were interesting in a way, however I also kind of saw them as copium especially for a movie that seemed to be a more simplified version of fnaf’s story. I have still seen people theorize that mike can still be a afton. However I personally have the opinion that if they didn’t reveal it in the first movie then what’s the point now, especially with how that first movie’s story went.

[@gemrock]

@aregularhorrorfan4184 Sorry if this sounds rude trying not to be, but more of my idea was not so much making Michael a Afton more of giving a reason for William to remember him. Playing off the idea of William wanting to control everyone/ everything in his life. But Michael was the one person who got away. If that makes sense.

[@aregularhorrorfan4184]

@@gemrock oh yeah probably missed that point in the comment, my bad srry.

[@gemrock]

@aregularhorrorfan4184 it's no problem. You made a good point. I think it would be an interesting twist if in the next movie it's revealed that Michael is William son.Honestly, at the end of the day, it's just a topic to talk about.

[@socrates546]

That's not hot take that's a theory

[@agentboi4794]

I got a video idea, instead of hot takes you could do a video about people’s head cannons

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

That's a GREAT idea! 8D

[@agentboi4794]

@@notrealnamenotatall2476 my personal head canon is that Phone Guy’s soul is just lost. It doesn’t possess the phone or a suit, he just never finds peace. From devout model employee, to someone who saw the cracks in FazEnt but couldn’t escape before becoming a victim himself. And I we wanna get REEEEEAAAALLLLY into super head canon, Phone Guy is Old Man Consequences

[@Adog00]

Omg is that Freddy fazfur

[@iamthemouse4483]

Furry Facebear

[@kingbob5858]

forby faster

[@breathair69420]

Hur Har Hur

[@ImAHeroOnHiroin]

Hot take: the mimic was just made because people couldn’t accept that big ol grandpa Willy was back, also ruin was made only for fan service

[@SkyLord1846]

2:14 I actually agree with this. While Ruin had a better protagonist, antagonist, and a better story, I do prefer base Security Breach. Security Breach is just to much fun to play. 3:38 I disagree with this. Like what you said, instead of just remaking older games but Vr, Help Wanted 2 actually got creative and made original content.

[@baileybhamjee8080]

At least RUIN didn’t have thousands of glitches and bugs everywhere. Hello Neighbour 1 had better AI

[@baileybhamjee8080]

And also why are you acting like Help wanted 1 is just old games? Those had so many different things. Parts and service. Circus baby, a Halloween DLC.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

It wasn't just old things, but Help Wanted 2 definitely leaned more into that direction when deciding what minigames to make.

[@SkyLord1846]

@@baileybhamjee8080 It’s not. There is some new content in Help Wanted 1, just not enough compared to its sequel. As for the glitch thing, that’s more of a you problem. Last time I played SB, I didn’t encounter that many glitches. And when I did encounter a glitch, it didn’t cause any issues for me whatsoever. I think you’re exaggerating.

[@SkyLord1846]

@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Definitely. And that’s why I kinda prefer Help Wanted 2. I probably didn’t word it the best, that’s my bad. I meant to say that while there was some original content in the first Help Wanted game, it did just recreate some old games but Vr.

[@DonkeyzEatSoup]

hot take: we should get a fnaf game idc whats its about but lore wise it JUST connects hw1, hw2, sb and ruin together so the lore can finally make some sense again

[@galaxygaming5613]

The Game Theory Community Seems To Just Sometime Ignore The "That's Just A Theory, A GAME THEORY" At The End Of The Videos

[@syweb2]

21:08 As I understand it, MXES is the security network tied to the node system. The Entity, the glitchy rabbit that stalks you, seems somewhat separate or distinct from it. I think The Entity was supposed to be Malhare/Glitchtrap, what with the Glitchy Purple Bunny aesthetic, the same poses, blue (AKA company-programmed) Helpi mentioning that it was _hijacking_ security protocols, and the design elements seemingly referencing Burntrap, but the monologue near the end combined with the MXES box machine thing sort of gave people the impression that The Entity was created by the box, as opposed to simply inhabiting/infecting it. 30:45 They would have to totally reframe Fredbear's bite and the circumstances surrounding it. The Bite of '87 is "important" because it's the reason the animatronics don't move around during the day, so an animatronic would have to be free-roaming and then bite someone in order for it to have the known consequence. The story we are given in FNaF 4, where some kids go too far and commit animatronic manslaughter, doesn't really fit with that, as the humans are mainly at fault, and the animatronic is just the passive instrument of injury - like pushing someone onto a hot stove, the stove had no agency or fault other than being turned on.

[@СарраКарагозян]

Just started the video, and it's already absolutely scorching✨

[@umbreonhyperdream]

I don't know if this counts as a hot take. But I like Monty a lot. He is my favorite out of the characters from Security Breach. He was cool looking, different and yet uniform. HE HAS AN ACCENT. He's colorful and appears laidback in the art which I love. As little personality as we got in the games from him I loved him. He's show to be aggressive, violent and has clear anger issues which is *interesting* because of how much it contradicts his cutouts and such. You wouldn't think programming anger issues into your strongest hulking metal behemoth is a good idea but I digress. As you said Monty's not very smart. We couldn't gotten not one but two himbos! On two different sides of the spectrum. But all we got was an anger alligator with nothing on the side. I'm not mad people didn't like him their opinions are valid but I hate how so many solely seemed to hate him because of Bonnie's absence and it's so disappointing. It was worse in the beginning and definitely mallowed out but I feel lime the damage was already done. Like that one person said Ruin did him no favors. And again you stated the creators *over* correct themselves meaning because the hate he received we're probably never seeing him again or worst they going to make him into a joke like UCN Toy Freddy (or remove all his spice and overhaul what little of a personality they gave us, the only thing he had going for him.) I feel this is less a hot take and more venting in the comments, I'm sorry (

[@Cylly_Jinx]

Good, Not Real, _good_ ! Salt it. Salt it now.

[@Eggs_benedict_afton83]

48:58 idk if it was on purpose or not but I love how she quoted scraptrap "I knew it was a lie the moment I heard it. But it was interesting non the less" love that

[@sumthinorother9615]

35:20 I really wish I knew how to make a _sans is ness_ joke about this

[@jmurray1110]

One thing about glamrock bonnie is his model is really desaturated why is it so faded if it naturally that light or just age give us a full prestine model

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

Cross posted on the other thread because I worked too hard on it: Hot Take Pt 1: Steel Wool should embrace Storyteller and go full "Dream Theory 2.0, do robots dream of electric sheep?" I hate the conclusion that it's all a simulation- the Fazmatrix if you will- but at this point it might be the best way to write off the whole arc with some of these characters. Because I don't think SW is going to put in the work to reconcile the plot with the barn. PT 2 There are ways to rectify the plot so far, if SW puts in the work though, and this is how I would go about it-- •Put back in cut canon endings so we know the continuity we play in. Really, SW, this is the bare minimum to ask. At least cut scenes. •Make Vanny a bad guy. Cut and dry the virus takes over people's minds and is evil. Not the people, mind you, but the costume and persona. (No Vanny Anti-hero arc, that is stupid. Why would she put that back on willingly? So dumb, unless she is a villain playing both sides, in which case FREAKING COMMIT. ) Then make the hero that overcomes the virus fight with the memory and consequences of their actions. Don't just wave them off. Have internal conflict because it was still done by their hands. Wow. Bare minimum again. (Or actually make the woman in your franchise the big bad pulling the strings, but pretending to be brainwashed. I dare you. Do it. We would eat that up. Cowards.) •Make Jeremy from HW the protagonist of HW2 *AND* Cassie's dad *AND* MXES. No loose threads, self contained tragedy. Clean cut but takes work assembling the puzzle. •Give some sort of redemption arc to Monty and Chica. They deserve it, too. •Make Glitchtrap/VANNI the real menace and Mimic redeemable and just confused and running on bad data. Because as of now, Mimic is at best bland and has no motive or aspirations. And if we are to take the books as gospel (which I don't but whatever) is really misunderstood, neglected, abused... I pity it. •Commit to Afton being "back" or not. Now, with what I just set up it may seem impossible... But it isn't. Let me set it up real quick- Mimic is an old bot that long ago was a child's best friend. They could have been brothers. That child died, but Mimic didn't understand death. Instead of being taught it was abused for grieving and left to rot. Many years pass, and a new group of shareholders in a new Fazbear's LLC seek to rebuild the company and make their fortunes off of the brand. They remember the characters fondly and were likely super fans themselves, but never were directly affected by the murders and wrote them off as heresay. So when they find an old bot that can Mimic but has seemingly no character or purpose, they steal the tech to make the process easier... And then repurpose the bot in the image of their mechanical mastermind idol, William Afton. They can make a 'meet the founder' attraction, with a mimicking robot trained up in his likeness! What a tribute! .... Why is it acting like this? Why is the robot made into the likeness of the late, great, mechanical mastermind William Afton luring children...? Why is he trying to find an old Rabbit costume, obsessed with Springbonnie? Lock it away! And another 5 or so years in the dungeon. After the 30 or more before that. It doesn't know anything anymore... (Never really did. It never had a name. It doesn't understand it killed people, doesn't understand death.) But maybe it's best friend is still out there though. It needs to go find him! That's it. Fixed it.

[@gabriellockwood2780]

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with the comment at 5:40~ We should ABSOLUTELY start from scratch with NEW information and work backwards/downwards. FNaF 1 is in 2000. FNaF 2 is 1987-the Murders/Missing Children’s Incident was July 10/11, 1985 Charlie was 3 when Afton killed her: 1980 - 1983. (“Crying Child” = Charlie???) FFPS might be the FIRST Canonical fire burning down a restaurant-2014~15 FNaF 3 at 2017 (1985-87 -> 2015-17) Sister Location takes place in at least 2012~14, so the Funtimed had been left alone (without William) since at least 2001~02 (Dittophobia says the Experiments//Chamber has been running without a human for at least 10 years-Roy was like 10? When he was taken…) Then the PizzaPlex from the books could easily be 2020-2025. The “MEGA PizzaPlex” isn’t until 2029~30 or so. (RUIN DLC takes place in at least 2033~35.) - FazBear Entertainment Inc. was NOT Founded by Henry OR William-they weren’t born yet/old enough. They ran Afton Robotics, LLC. (1980~)

[@Darkblastz]

5:50 I’m pretty sure everyone thinks because 1 takes place in 1993 because of the paychecks 23:05 technically we didn’t know about the afton family until sister location

[@Wizardjones69]

It could take place in 1992 or 1991

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

I don't know if they'd postdate a check that far though.

[@profsrlojohn635]

For one, I freely admit I misremember and put 95 when I meant 92. As for why I say that, here’s a quick breakdown! The big flaw in matpat’s theory is that he assumes that the player gets paid on friday… with no real basis for it. In fact just as many people, (including myself) get paid on Thursday, not friday. After all, there’s no reason for night 1 to start on a monday, it could just as well be a sunday. He did however correctly calculate the range of 1990-1996. Additionally fnaf 2 we know for a fact ends on november 12th, 1987. A Thursday. As such, it isn’t outlandish to assume that Fazbear, like many companies, pay’s its employees on a thursday. Meaning Fnaf 1 needs to to take place in a year where november 12, is a thursday. 1992, is the only day that happens. Thus, fnaf 1 has to to take place on fnaf 2. Simply put, the math was just wrong. No hate to mat for it, it just is what it is.

[@Darkblastz]

@@profsrlojohn635 My only question is how did you get November 12th as the the date fnaf 1 took place

[@profsrlojohn635]

@@Darkblastz that’s the date on the fnaf 1 paycheck as well, only difference is the year is Xed out. Hence why there’s even discussion to begin with. Now, even fnaf 2s date is a little questionable, as the voice tapes contradict the paychecks, meaning either A) the tapes are old B) Scott made a mistake with the tapes, or C) Scott made a msitake when reusing the check illustration from fnaf 1. All of which are equally likely. Ultimately my point is that if something as ultimately inconsequential as fnaf 1s date is pretty easily proven to not be what the community thinks, what else are we wrong about? To use an extreme example, we have no proof that Michael is Foxy Bro, or even that CC is related to the aftons. Now, do I believe that they are? Yes but there’s nothing more than loose circumstantial evidince and hints to back it up. Therefore so much we assume rhat we could very well be wrong for, and if our entire tower of theories and information gets toppled and restarted with every new game, maybe our foundation is weak? Hence the suggestion to start from the top and begin again and reevaluate our assumptions.

[@NorthernWind0]

Being fair, there's a very large difference berween being an abusive parent and being a murderer. Having a child die, even to an abusive parent, can be a traumatizing thing. Can drive them to become an even worse person. That's how I view the afton narrative.