Why US Desperately Needs NEW Icebreakers

Why the United States has only two icebreakers and Russia has 55, and why that is not a big deal, is #notwhatyouthink #nwyt
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[@NotWhatYouThink]

What are your thoughts? Is the Coast Guard staffing crisis a bigger issue or the delays on getting new icebreakers?

[@zohaibtariq7351]

How do icebreakers work?

[@tunguska2370]

Does US even need icebreaker

[@mooglemy3813]

The US army has staffing problems and is off by 15% for enlistment, General Miley stated this recently. Looks like this may be across all the armed forces to some degree. Why? Maybe a different generation that is not interested in serving or the bannefits after such as GI Bill? How about many young people are not fit enough to serve? That's an issue as well. So coast guard is affected by same circumstances as the US military. US navy recruiting numbers were down about 7,000 + overall. Not looking good for any of the services never mind manning new ships.

[@flowers7348]

The Ice is melting, someone let Noah know.

[@SuperchargedSupercharged]

You could start with allowing mustaches and beards. Followed by acknowledgement of there are only two sexes. This would help with recruitment numbers.

[@germshroom9786]

my question is where is canada in this story. they have significantly more arctic coastline to take care of. Apparently they operate 21 icebreakers and as an ally of the US i wonder is maybe the US together with them could have some kind of joint arctic presence.

[@dr.victorvs]

Exactly. Global warming is only going to accelerate now that Russia realized they'll actually benefit, and Canada will be threatened by Russian militarism. Canada and the US need to do something about it before it becomes an issue.

[@lukas4866]

Finland, Sweden, Norway and the UK also each operate some icebreakers

[@VerdeMorte]

They're currently too closely allied with China for their own good

[@RadDadisRad]

Oddly enough they do. So they use nuclear submarines under the ice that they use. They open vents and disrupt the ice when keeping a ship underway. It’s something that is not talked about much but is commonly practiced.

[@pkz420]

Canadas icebreakers are why the US can risk a single point of failure. In any kind of worst case scenario they can likely get us to help. It makes it reasonable for them to gamble with only one.

[@thescotslair]

Polar Star: "please let me die" US Coast Guard: "it's time for your annual antarctic trip honey"

[@user-bf1md8xv1p]

Russia needs icebreakers. They have a number of Arctic ports. The US has only two ice ports in Alaska.

[@Silver_Prussian]

Yes thats why they are currently building quite a bit and all of them nuclear powered, they actualy launched one of them several months ago.

[@bettyswallocks6411]

While we still have ice.

[@al1sa920]

That's why we're building a lot of them

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

my friend worked on a HUGE icebreaker just one month ago. We are both swedish and it is a swedish military ice breaker from the 1960s. The ship is called YMER and its frickin epic.

[@monkemode8128]

Ice breakers always look so badass

[@rykehuss3435]

@@monkemode8128 I've been on a ship with ice breaking capabilities, but it wasnt a true icebreaker. We were traveling on some relatively thin ice (about 4 inches thick), and the noise is something else. Cant imagine working on a big icebreaker that goes through steel ice like nothing, it must be maddening inside. I wonder if the crew sleeps with ear protection

[@TurboAutist-sg7lo]

u got that right!@@monkemode8128

[@rubensandstrom6824]

Was a Military ship they are entirely civilian now a day and yes the atle class is really cool

[@donhardy-hd3gk]

@@rykehuss3435 i work on the one in the video, its not loud, only a lot of vibrations and shaking during the winter heavy ice season

[@mohamedbaradji7504]

“How did the US lose the icebreaker race?” Simple, they never had an interest in competing

[@AngryAmericanWizard]

Can't loose a race you're not a part of. Who needs Ice Breakers when the caps are melting anyways, I'd laugh if I weren't crying.

[@cgmason7568]

​@@AngryAmericanWizardbut that means you need them more. Thiner ice means you can cut into it

[@theodoreolson8529]

9:15 Hull cuts are a major engineering evolution but not unusual. Every nuclear submarine that goes through a reactor overhaul gets hull cuts and that steel is much tougher than the typical ship hull. This episode calls attention to the long history of under funding the US Coast Guard despite their critical mission.

[@THE-X-Force]

It's still insane to see it though (imo) .. watching them remove that enormous section of hull like a jigsaw piece was incredible.

[@ntrgc89]

Sounds like hull cuts are "not what you think"

[@evanogburn]

Not only are they underfunded, but unlike the other 4 branches of the military, they won't get funding during a gov shutdown. This already happened a couple years ago, where they went for over a month without pay (but still continued to operate) and will potentially happen again this year.

[@supa3ek]

Hull cuts inevitably ruin acoustics or the balance of the ship. Especially since that they always make sure the result is tougher to make up for the artificial fault line.

[@theodoreolson8529]

@@supa3ek This might be true on a very small scale, but I don't think it's a major thing. I served on an old Sturgeon class attack boat and we did a two year reactor overhaul. Many hull cuts. After overhaul the boat has to recertify in many categories including time at an acoustic range where the submarine was evaluated for noise levels. Regardless, there's simply no way to perform certain maintenance and repairs without hull cuts.

[@azstumbler]

When I was in the Coast Guard back in the 70s, while stationed on the Northwind we used to call the Star and the Sea building 10 and building 11. Simply because they were always in port for repairs. I see that much has not changed.

[@cscam56]

I remember it well. Both breakers had major problems with their props not meeting specifications. When a new set arrived we discovered that the transport truck had hit an overpass and curled the blades.

[@tuunaes]

That sounds similar to how battleship Yamato was jokingly called as Hotel Yamato by sailors when admirals didn't want to risk ship getting fired at in battle and kept it safely at port/away from battle zones.

[@kevjtnbtmglr]

Hey guys, us here in Finland build top quality icebreakers.

[@letsplaywar]

Finnish ice technology is held in high regard all over the world. As activities in the Arctic increase and the Northern Sea Route opens up for traffic, all while environmental regulations become tighter, the demand for high-quality icebreakers and ice-strengthened cargo ships rises. Each winter after the Baltic Sea freezes over, Finnish foreign trade depends greatly on efficient winter navigation. Icebreakers are necessary to keep ports and sea lanes open, and only ice-strengthened ships can move on their own in conditions dominated by ice. This has led Finnish ice technology to develop to a world-leading level over the past 50 years.

[@JIUNnF]

@@letsplaywar на столько высокого что сказать что будет дешевле воспользоватся сопровждением не то что выгоднее а лучше для всех.

[@TrojanManSCP]

Great video. I did the McMurdo trip way back in 2002. Recruitment/retention is the biggest challenge of every service right now. Historically, a poor economy helps with that, but we're not seeing it currently for a lot of reasons.

[@LordOceanus]

Because an E-4 makes less than a fast food employee in every branch so the only real incentives to serve are - Sense of duty (not prevalent in much of today's america) - Benefits (Not even good benefits, everyone has a 'screwed by the VA' story)

[@mesiroy1234]

Why cant europeam coutnry such norway, sweedn help the reaserch statiom

[@mesiroy1234]

Surely surely thre eueopean resrchers thre

[@honkhonk8009]

Ask anybody in my generation, and they would all unanimously say: nobody wants to die for "gods chosen people" The pay is dogshit. Litteral minimum wage work. And you cant even put it on your resume like you can if you join CBRN in the army. Its utterly useless.

[@AlexRepin]

On a side note, you can actually take a trip to the North Pole on a russian nuclear icebreaker. With helicopter excursions, zodiac boats and all that. It's pricey, though, as it starts from $25k per person.

[@divoulos5758]

It is unless someone decides to bring a cruiser ship behind the breaker, that would decrease costs 10fold

[@JIUNnF]

Курс.

[@mtthyw]

I just had this discussion with my dad, E4, yesterday. Thanks for making this.

[@beverlychmelik5504]

We were never in a race. We just ignored the needs of the Coast Guard and the Artic sea lanes, as well as letting our ability to build ships degrade.

[@THE-X-Force]

This was incredibly interesting, and I learned a lot. Watching them pull out that chunk of the hull like a jigsaw piece (10:10) was absolutely insane. Thanks for the great video! ☮

[@ericjones9367]

Took a lot longer than a month!

[@mesiroy1234]

Why cant europeam coutnry such norway, sweedn help the reaserch statiom

[@mesiroy1234]

Surely surely thre eueopean resrchers thre

[@johnsimpson4009]

I helped build that ship. The Healy. 😉👍

[@eherrmann01]

I helped build USCGC Healy (WAGB 20). I worked in the shop that cut the hull plates and a lot of the structural steel.

[@NotWhatYouThink]

Very cool 👍🏼

[@andrewpotapenkoff7723]

I live in Murmansk, Kola peninsula. North Trade Route starts here! We have never freezing port - because of warm Gulf Stream.

[@J069FIX]

I wonder, if the US really wants/needs new icebreakers, why have they not tried contracting Norwegian/Swedish and/or Finnish shipyards to build some? All three have significant expertise in using and building icebreakers. Norway and Finland are also in NATO, and thus allies of the USA, and Sweden will, in time, also join NATO officially. Is there a clause in US law prohibiting them from doing so?

[@H3rraM4juri]

no because they own those ships and usa doesn't and usa cannot demand them to give them up they have to pay for them to make some because they are not cheap

[@J069FIX]

@@H3rraM4juri Et tainnut lukea kovin hyvin kirjoittamaani tekstiä... Kirjoitin kysymyksen miksei Yhdysvallat vain tilaa tyyliin esim. Rauman telakalta (tai mikä telakka nyt Suomessa jäänmurtajia valmistaa) että rakentavat uuden jäänmurtajan.

[@billdurham8477]

It's called Congressmen. " My district has a shipyard, why should some other country build it" and on and on it goes.

[@Jonezkin]

US law(14 U.S.C. 1151 and 10 U.S.C. 8679) doesn't allow US Navy and Coast Guard to buy vessels made in foreign countries.

[@JIUNnF]

Финляндия входит в нато кхкх

[@dinsdalemontypiranha4349]

I'd have to say that they are both vital for the US. Thanks again for another great video! I was just thinking about Canada's need for ships in the Arctic yesterday, so this was a very timely video for me.

[@chugachuga9242]

Learning about the Russian icebreaker that was contracted to clear the rout to McMurdo Station, really takes me back to that time were Russia actually had normal, even good relations with the west, but now that time feels so long ago.

[@hashteraksgage3281]

Russia has nothing against the west, it's just that it doesn't want to follow USA rules like all western countries do. In fact Russia would love to be in good terms with western countries.

[@chugachuga9242]

@@hashteraksgage3281 yet they ruined that by invading a sovereign country and threaten to nuke any body who looks at them wrong

[@hashteraksgage3281]

@@chugachuga9242 the same thing America has done on a yearly basis since the end of WW2🤷🏼‍♂️

[@chugachuga9242]

@@hashteraksgage3281 that’s irrelevant because that doesn’t excuse Russia for doing too

[@hashteraksgage3281]

@@chugachuga9242 when did the west condemn USA proxy wars and invasions? It's only valid if one country does it? Both are bad, I'm not saying otherwise, but why does the world casually jump only when Russia does it?

[@robertbehmer6575]

Learning something new while working, thanks NWYT!

[@letsplaywar]

Ask not what this Country can do for you, Ask what you as a Fellow American can do for your Country. America needs your help. Ask yourself Are YOU Prepared To join the Fight to prepare for World War 3?

[@henrycarlson7514]

So Wise , Thank You .. A fine example of the short sightedness of oir (u.. S. ) government

[@Vdossed]

Keep making awesome videos man!

[@simokoistinen276]

There is an easy solution for this. US officials should ring to Finland and order some. (About 80% of world's icebreakers are designed in Finland and 60% are built there.) Americans get their vessels and Finns get the money.

[@JIUNnF]

Воспользоватся услугами сопровождения будет не то что дешевле на порядок а выгоднее для всех.

[@Zarobien]

As I understood it, the problem with that was that, US border guard is a part of US military and their law says the ships need to be atleast 51% domestic producted. My guess is that US is waiting for F-35 deal deliveries to start rolling, because that deal has buyback clause and 49% of icebreakers would qualify.

[@simokoistinen276]

@@Zarobien You make a good point but is there really said in the F-35 deal that the US border guard can't make any production orders before they have provided planes to Finland?

[@johnransom1146]

You showed a Canadian ship as American a couple times. It had the red maple leaf. If Russia bought Canadian ice breakers….. buy or contract out the ice breaker service. If you stopped the military stupidity of screaming at recruits you’d have more applicants

[@takumisunss2382]

Nigaaaa whaaaaa

[@theknifedude1881]

We (the USA) don’t need to remain relevant in today’s world. All I(a politician) need to do is be re-elected. As long as I can keep my face in the trough and keep my congressional health care (which I will make sure no citizen ever gets) I’m happy. I’ll just keep promoting, or fighting whichever headline generating social issue will keep my Sheeple happy. I’ll have a list of books to ban and fight against the School District’s plan to install a Same Sex Cat Box @ Brand X Middle School. God Bless America!

[@Jordan-du6fu]

We have patrol ships in the New Zealand navy that are designed to break through ice. Because some of the patrol ships often patrol Antarctica.

[@ChristofferGroop]

thank you for using my video on Oden🙏🏼 very nicely done⚓️

[@whatever_12]

11:00 no surprise there, people don't like to be treated like shit

[@kellerweskier7214]

my thoughts? is that military requirements are too high for getting too little out of them. a budget of $890 billion, but you can make more money at burgerking.

[@guru47pi]

They're in a different environment. The US also has a lot more alligator farms, orange groves, and pineapple plantations

[@woopityscoop2863]

America’s been losing a lot of things lately. Just glad we’re starting to realize we’ve been losing our damn minds for over a decade.

[@TheLooking4sunset]

A great video!

[@reformed1trick739]

The problem with personal is that anyone with the skills to fill these positions is probably going to be hired in the private sector for more money

[@alexeylutskyi6420]

Then hire people from the Second World countries who would work jobs that require 15-20 years of experience for the wage which is about the same as the minimal wage in the US. I mean a captain of a dry cargo ship earns about $8,000 per month - that is considering they're Ukrainian, Philippino or Indian.

[@justinfowler2857]

USA: We don't need more icebreakers. We have global warming on our side.

[@thwingc]

Global warming and a possible Arctic shipping route are why we could utilize more icebreaking capability.

[@user-mo1of1xz1m]

@@thwingc agreed

[@al1sa920]

My conspiracy theory is that US and Europe are trying to avoid global warming because it would make Russia's geography absolute imba in terms of agriculture, access to rare earth resources, ice-free massive coastline that would be marvelous in terms of logistics, etc.

[@user-zf9oo8gs4z]

Are used to live in Juneau, Alaska, and have toured both of those icebreakers. They were often dock in Juneau. Sometimes they would have tours.

[@mikedrop4421]

There's so many ridiculous "World's 1st" born of the cold war when everyone was turning anything and everything into another "race" I'm just hoping that we win the "1st talking dog", "1st cordless TV remote that's truly impossible to lose" or "1st cellphone charger cable that doesn't short out of the by phone plug after a few months". You know, the important races ...

[@andreibaciu7518]

First bag of chips full of chips with no excuses (impossible challenge)

[@AngryAmericanWizard]

I've used the same cable for years and never once lost my remote get your life together bud. Space Race is a worthwhile investment into the far future of humanity and a great short term display of might to detour an actual war. I'd rather piss away billions on silly races then invite an actual shooting war with a peer. I'm just grateful we have no near peers or peers in the defense sector closet thing to it is the regional power with a white water fleet and a lot of missiles known as the PRC.

[@electricheartpony]

​@@andreibaciu7518want chip pieces or whole chips?

[@electricheartpony]

Do you abuse your cables or sumthin? Been using the same cable for a year and a half at this point.

[@nportillo]

"The Fox and the Grapes" from Esopo.

[@flowers7348]

"Their main mission is to break ice" Yup, pretty much what I was thinking lol

[@nikolausbautista8925]

As a Seattleite, it would be a wonder to see the Polar Sea take to the waves again- and at a price of $250 Million, it's more cost-effective, and if both Star, Sea, Healy, and up to 3 of the Polar Security Cutters enter service, 2 In-Service, 2 Winding-Down, and 2 Preparing for Deployment will suffice our Arctic Needs cleanly for the next 15-25 years. At one point, we used to have 9 major Icebreakers (8 Saltwater, and 1 Great Lakes), that could take-on the world. Now, we have a Medium, a Heavy, the (smaller) 2nd Mackinaw, and a bunch of little ones. Bring back the Polar Sea, and get the Polar Security cutters underway!

[@Vaporizer_YT]

There’s a mandate from congress for the DoD to enhance its arctic operational capabilities and the lack of any specific requirements means it is utterly ignored

[@fearthehoneybadger]

Opening the sides of vessels is common during overhaul.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

The blockage of the Suez did NOT "bring global trade to a halt". It put a serious dent in that trade, but that was only ONE of the major trade routes in the world. Certainly had ZERO effect on most of the global trade routes in the Pacific Ocean, Indian Ocean, or the majority of the Atlantic routes (North and South America to MOST of Europe, MOST of Africa, were unaffected, for examples - or Japan/China/Korea and such to the Middle East for OIL or to North/South America AT ALL). There is more shipping through the Straights of Malacca (next to Singapore) than ANY OTHER area of the world - and shipping volumes through that straits blows BOTH Suez AND the Panama Canal, well, out of the water. Quite a bit wider than both canals COMBINED, yet more crowded.

[@samuelpankonien4084]

I was on the polar star and it was actually pretty fun

[@bernardkealey6449]

How about talking about the - the Jones Act making the US shipbuilding industry the most highly protected and inefficient shipyards in the world; a billion bucks a piece for icebreakers is only realistic because there is no real competition when they have to be built in USA - Aiviq being “proposed” for purchase by 2 congressmen who just happened to have one thing in common; the owner being their biggest campaign contributors - Aiviq being unfit for most service, major design flaws that lead to them grounding a billion dollar Shell rig, Shell consequently cancelling orders for 2 further ships

[@armorbearer9702]

Are these Artic trade routes better for transporting food. I figure the cold temperature can help with food preservation.

[@maxxmich]

the reason why no one was t to work in the cost guard is they do t want to be yelled at.. they technically are not a military branch.....

[@calebbearup4282]

With Iceland being a non military NATO member I feel like Iceland should be expected to contribute a bit above their weight class in this particular area.

[@robertgutheridge9672]

I've done work as a civilian contractor employee on both the polar star and polar sea

[@neonyman2008]

Its wierd that even Finland has more icebreakers than the USA and we are a tiny nation in comparison

[@FEURVERMONTO]

well the video alrdy explained why the US doesn't have ice breaker as it's not Quite beneficial in any way for them even with the Alaska having less than 70k population and not much ports and if they do really need help they got Canadians ice breakers which roughly have around more than 20

[@Gerhard57NL]

1:04 this guy flipped when there were too many ice cubes in his drink

[@HATECELL]

Russia once even considered turning an old Typhoon ballistic missile submarine into a freighter to support some very remote stations. The reasoning was that for particularly long but low-cargo volume routes it would be cheaper to use such a specialised vessel over having to keep the entire route ice free. But I doubt this would be a viable option for the US, as their routes in Alaska have a much higher traffic volume. It might be an option for the antarctic, but a SSBN needs even more specialised personnel than a regular icebreaker. I think Russia only even considered this because the shrinking of the navy after the collapse of the Soviet union meant they had submarines and trained personnel just lying around

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

Question is... Is there need to have a passage? In Russia they transport their oil by ship, and USA uses pipelines

[@worldoftancraft]

So Russia doesn't use pipes?

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

@@worldoftancraft nothing near as much as the US, no

[@davidyoung3288]

navy personnel to be transferred to coast guard since u.s. navy do have to traverse northern route when; as such for time being transfer few naval personnel to do the job; create northern route command or such; to work wiht coast guard on paper; and build icebreaker for navy to lease to coast guard; to operate; under naval personnel; with panama cannal blocked; going tip of south is one option but going north is another; options should be left to open; we can always go other way;

[@user-fi4eh3im1b]

Coast guard is hard asf to join, they accept like 500 outta 4500 applicants each year.. almost 1/10

[@thwingc]

Definitely not as difficult as it used to be

[@user-fi4eh3im1b]

@@thwingc how many are accepted outta applicants now?

[@thwingc]

@@user-fi4eh3im1b There's a CG Facebook post from 2012 that says less than 4% then. I'm not sure what current numbers are, but they've raised the maximum age, and relaxed some other requirements. I don't know the specific numbers, but I'm certain it's one piece of the effortnto increase the number of servicemembers.

[@MrSpicabooo]

Theyre desperate for members just like every other branch now. Theyre even thinking of having 2 yr contracts or some sort of part time service system

[@vaakdemandante8772]

Yeah, the years of neglect by the US due too its perceived superiority in its own backyard seem to be coming back with a vengeance. Once a chain of training, maintenance and shipbuilding is broken it's really hard to get it back up running smoothly.

[@davidclark7584]

You gotta love the level of incompetence of the us government. Nothing like waiting until the last minute to address a problem.

[@SlimothyNate3218]

To bad all the funds that could be used to update non essential but potentially important US maritime operations, is being sent to other countries

[@z000ey]

Both problems are actually very easy to solve, IF the US Goverment is willing to PAY the higher wages and subsidize education of the crew, and PAY for buidling new icebreakers. Meanwhile, the US Goverment is spending zillions on a multitude of other completely non strategic stuff...

[@Pimps-R-us]

Like sending all the TAX payers money to Ukraine and now probably Israel .

[@AngryAmericanWizard]

Zillions isn't a number and when you get hyperbolic to the point of inventing numbers it's hard to take you seriously. We spend more then anyone else in the world on global and national defense we can already afford the Ice Breakers, as for wages the US doesn't build their own gear the contracts do so take it up with your boss if you're not being paid enough. We need to cut the fat and eliminate the profit margins of defense firms. They are stupid bloated.

[@z000ey]

@@AngryAmericanWizard I'm not a US citizen and I pay myself my wage for my own work, so I'm my own boss. I do agree with you that profit margins are one of the problems (and thus my zillions in mention) cause they are in every country in the world, including mine. Also, in most of the world countries the people that the governments should pay more are actually underpayed, and thus those jobs are left vacant, like the icebreaker crew jobs, or soldier jobs (or education jobs, probably the most important ones...)

[@projecttitanium-slowishdriver]

Or buy those from Finland. Higher quality with lesser price

[@Davit1600]

yes

[@mesiroy1234]

Yeah we need to buy ship for this one in gernation acident

[@wpatrickw2012]

Building additional icebreakers would be an excellent way for Canada to increase defense spending while at the same time contributing to the domestic economy.

[@honkhonk8009]

Yea. I think thats why the US doesnt care if it only has 1 icebreaker left. It can just ask Canada for help lol.

[@johnsimpson4009]

Healy broke through 24 feet thick ice. I welded on its hull and especially that Bow. The last 4 numbers of my social security number is stamped all over it. Its not medium. Its heavy duty. .

[@mattkratochvil8386]

What about the R/V Nathaniel B. Palmer? Its owned by a US company and contracted by NSF?

[@CALIBER-AN-ELITE]

ngl, us aint really breaking though ice all the time, but russians kinda are surrounded by it so they had more opportunity

[@rdizzleoriginal]

I'll never miss being on the Healy

[@Canada-_]

for those commenting about Canada helping, The artic is one of the only places Canada and the US are not "allies". But they agree to do nothing about it as keeping the status quo is better then running Canada-US relations. For context the US broke the Arctic Cooperation agreement in 2005, in 2019 U.S. State Department spokesperson Morgan Ortagus said, “We view Canada’s claim that the waters of the Northwest Passage are internal waters of Canada as inconsistent with international law,” which is funny cause the US isn't even apart of UNCLOS so they cant really talk to the Law of the sea if they don't recognise it. So for are help some concessions would have to be made regarding the US's view on Canadian sovereignty

[@guatf1]

Royal Dutch Shell😢 sad to hear that, unfortunately they left the Netherlands and are no longer "Royal Dutch"

[@eiv-gaming]

I think if im captaining a US fishing boat or ice breaker. I'm bluffing that i have an escort. One that doesnt need to break ice but sails below it.

[@THE-X-Force]

I mean really .. they were in the U.S. exclusive economic zone, and had every right to be there. He said they were ordered to leave, but didn't mention if those orders came from the Russians or from the Coast Guard / Navy. If it was from RU then they should have just kept fishing. It's not like they would be fired upon. As crazy as Russia is acting, they are not insane enough to directly initiate a conflict with America.

[@paanikki]

American icebreaker design is based on horsepower, brute force. For example, Finnish modern diesel-elctric icebreakers are more powerful than those built in early 1970's, but with less engine power and a fraction of operating cost. US has laws and regulations protecting American shipbuilding industry. The US government cannot purchase other than American-made icebreakers. The cost of an American-made icebreaker is 3 times the costs of a the most modern and most powerful Finnish-made Polaris-class modern Icebreaker. Polaris class has dual-fuel engines (LNG/diesel).

[@UliMuliko]

Finland is now U.S partner and we have best icebreakers

[@Shyhalu]

11:28 Lowering eligibility requirements to attract applicants. Yup, sounds about right. The entire military is doing that right now. We'll be a massive joke soon enough.

[@projecttitanium-slowishdriver]

Finnish companies have designed 80% icebreakers and manufactured 60 % build in Finnish shipyards

[@TheHenchmen69]

Big brain US politicians: “Don’t gotta pay for new ice breakers if there’s no ice to break”

[@p2wbedwarskid]

Easy solution, I think putting icebreaker hulls on all ships going to, the antarctic

[@thwingc]

Unfortunately, that's a massive undertaking. It'd be similar to modifying every vehicle to be a school bus so they could transport 70 people. It's probably possible, but requires substantial changes to the parts of the vehicle that really make up the core of what it is. Pretty sure that's a terrible explanation. I wish I could do better.

[@shaunmcknight7354]

I worked for the clown college that was contracted out to build and design the PSC (Polar Security Cutter) electrical systems. Massively over budget and behind schedule. Don’t bet on any of those ships seeing water.

[@ivechang6720]

They are old and we need more of them on the great lakes.

[@crazestyle83]

Our industry and allies will bridge the gap.

[@crazestyle83]

Just like with space x

[@ericcsuf]

There's always something laugh-out-loud funny in your narration. This time there was a very strange one. At 10:25, the Closed Caption says "The piece of the hull was put back in place, and duct taped ... or welded." However, you removed that sentence in the audio.

[@NotWhatYouThink]

😁

[@fogster8886]

1:04 dude.

[@danielbeck2739]

One major problem, least years ago and probably today, getting into the Coast Guard. By that they didn't have many openings, and to my knowledge they still limit how many they take in. Its why it's easier to join one of the other branches. From those who need people badly to not as bad follows usually like this, with the Marines usually at the top, followed by the Army, Navy, Airforce, and then National Guard. Coast Guard is dead last just because they limit their openings based on time frames and other reasons. While the other branches can fluctuate in recruitment drives, this list tends to be the average. At the time I was joining the navy years ago, the Coast Guard was only taking 13 people as that was their cutoff at that time. They wouldn't have another opening for months if not the next year. The navy had closer to 20ish counting myself, the army and marines damn near on par with each other with maybe 30 a piece with National Guard having 1. However, the National Guard did have more leading up to this with approximately 20ish, the guy who signing in had showed a day or two after, but still had to swear through the Army and go through boot camp like the others before him. He would just be catching the same bus with all the Army and National Guard recruits to head to boot camp in a few weeks following the swearing in. As for the Airforce, think maybe a little over a dozen, but they were expecting another 30 to show up in a week or two. But point is that most times the Coast Guard doesn't have recruitment drives like that often if at all. And looking at this vid now that might change or might not.

[@MrSpicabooo]

Nah they been needing people desperately for yrs its just people dont know about it or people look down upon it. Theres a staffing problem at every level. As well as funding and equipment.

[@robandcheryls]

With Canadas new “Harry De-Wolfe” Arctic patrol (ice breaking) vessels, we have your North! Canadian 🇨🇦 Veteran

[@jackhowe6]

Americans in general like new, shiny, glorified, headliners of systems. We don't like maintenance and maintenance-like things. So, we can spend $450 billion on another carrier (unneeded), but cut budget on maintenance. We buy billion dollar F-35s, then leave half in the hangar for lack of parts. And we buy more shiny new war machines without a mission need while doing without the heavy shipping, icebreakers, and other accoutraments to get those war toys to where theyre needed. We think like politicians and MBAs.

[@ryelor123]

How do you run a ship out of oil? That should be impossible. I doubt it only had a red genie light.

[@riadulislam1816]

Just wondering what a line charge would do to the ice

[@zachmoyer1849]

not much the ships work by putting all their weight on the edge of the ice so you are getting a large concentrated force going one direction with a charge on the surface not much is gonna happen unless its massive.

[@dastankuspaev9217]

classical case of austerity

[@ejejruurenjeieurrj3157]

Was good

[@MattPerdeck]

Why is it so hard for the coast guard to attract people? Could they hire Canadians or other foreigners?

[@muhammadishmamabdullah5347]

I would love to work in coast guard

[@THE-X-Force]

Why don't you?

[@ether23-23]

Do it, they need people

[@muhammadishmamabdullah5347]

@@ether23-23 sadly because of my health problems my own countrys military and coastal Guard won't take me. Let alone USCG

[@alexandergrace]

Thought this would be a Meme video ending in 30 seconds saying "Climate change lulz". lol. Awesome Work!

[@aelfredrex8354]

Given the length of our Arctic coast compared to Russia's, why would there even be a race? Should we build 70 of them just to sit rusting at their docks when we only need 2?

[@worldoftancraft]

Indeed, Amêriqua has exceeded in its understanding of the reality. What a sight: truly a big sooperpower's frame of mind

[@pmue437]

The US should order 8 Icebreakers in Finland Arctech. 6 Heavy and 2 Midsize ones. If they where smart around 2012 the have rented long-term 3 Russian Ice breakers Diesel ones. Today that is not longer possible.

[@dreaming_fox163]

Money can be 🖨 but I guess even the USA cannot print humans 😂

[@robertpatrick3350]

The US could close and overcome any gap if they wanted too using their superior industrial capacity.

[@maxxmich]

sounds like we need to put our priorities straight... like not give away money to Ukraine... that mi why would fix and build a new ice breaker

[@danielomingomingsr9203]

They have been talking about it for years.

[@theromanorder]

please do a video on these (this is a copy and paste list for a few channels) units and tactics/evaluation of loadouts of troops (from different jobs (and other branches) the tank doctrine of countries evaluation of tank veiw ports evaluation of tanks/armored vehicles of different countries navil ship cross sections (all the rooms and how it all works) evaluation of types of ships or evaluation of navil warfare flag ship vs capital ship, battleship vs dreadnought air craft carrier strike group formations exsamples, ancient persan ships, ancient veneti ships (gauls that fought ceaser) better for squads to be 2 teams of 5 or 3 teams of 3, and probably the esayest, better to keep troops well feed or starved like an animal how dose age effect comsnders eg napoleon got older so took less risks, ancient urban warfare ww2 tactics in Asia, tactics in the Chinese age of warlords, tactics in the ruso jap war cold war navil tactics, Korean war tactics, strange tactics or unque battles from the American war of independence and America civil war why did the Japanese empire fall, dont just say "America" like things like how there army and navy argued alot

[@dr.victorvs]

The problem is that the US and Canada haven't joined into a European Union-like confederation yet.

[@gnypp45]

1:04 WTF? Is he well? 😂

[@thwingc]

It's some video from boot camp. So, naw, probably not very well at the moment and super stressed out.

[@Gorphee]

Seriously, I immediately went to the comments and started wondering why no one was talking about this....

[@killerbern666]

1:06 wtf he doing 🤣

[@johnroberts9922]

The US does not need Ice breakers because we don't have to keep sea lanes cleared of ice. That, however, is critical for Russia.

[@letsplaywar]

There are several strategic reasons why the United States may need more icebreakers, even if the situation is not identical to Russia's.

[@xaina222]

@@letsplaywar Just ask Canada to do what ever the job is, they have a decent icebreaker fleet.

[@philipb2134]

American ice-breakers wouldn't provide deterrence; A few F-16s would.