Now What? You’re Carrying A Handgun During a Medical Emergency

[@USCCAOfficial]

How do you handle your firearm in case of a medical emergency?

[@gw6496]

U would take pictures of all EMT AND POLICE who on scene if possible.

[@Saanonymous80]

Make sure whoever calls tells the operator that you have a concealed carry permit. They'll dispatch police also.

[@oldcop18]

@@Saanonymous80 If we got called we’d take charge of the gun and turn it into the evidence room. Once the person recovered they’d come to the PD, show ID and & p/u their property.

[@phillippatterson1080]

@@Saanonymous80 After watching this video and taking into consideration what you have said, if I had it to do all over, I would call for medical and police and let the officer know when he arrives why he's there. It's a toss up wether I would notify dispatch. Good point and advice.

[@McRod-1]

I watched a video on ASP where emts rescued a guy who ODd on the bus, gave him some sort of pickup injection. He was CC. Police were questioning him and wanting him to go to hospital. They noticed his bulge on his hip, asked if he had a weapon and it ended in a gun fight.... I was like, how did the emts not notice this when he was passed out??

[@TannerP97]

I actually had this happen to me a couple weeks ago, I got t-boned on my driver door a couple weeks ago and hit my head pretty good. Was really out of it and didn't even remember about my firearm until I was getting checked in at the ER. There were a couple police officers in the waiting room and thankfully they were pretty friendly about it. They asked if there was someone who could remove the firearm from the building for me (which there was), got it out of the building, and that was the end of it. Thankful they were cool about it.

[@jrbailey3208]

Cops like that seem to be a RARITY these days.......I yearn for the days of my youth, when MOST COPS still thought for themselves and were NOT just automatons carrying out contra-constitutionally laws like the para-military LEOS of today. Glad things went well for you sidearm wise and I hope you are fully on the mend now. Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY and Merry Christmas

[@chuckz28]

Was it easy to get it back?

[@TannerP97]

@@jrbailey3208 Thanks man, I appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you as well!

[@TannerP97]

@@chuckz28 Yup! The officers never took possession of it or anything. I was luckily with a family member and they were able to take it and get it locked up in the car we took to the ER. I'm not quite sure how it would've went down if I didn't have anyone with me to take it outside the building.

[@percyfaith11]

Why wouldn't they be cool about it? It was legal for you to carry it.

[@justynraymond78]

Had a motorcycle accident while carrying. Let the state trooper on scene know about it, gave my fathers information. They met and he gave him the handgun at the hospital. Just had to not panic, carrying is a huge responsibility, have to keep a level head in high stress situations.

[@Real_Tech_Skills]

I experienced a similar situation. I was in a car accident while carrying concealed. I have no memory of this encounter (knocked unconscious with severe concussion), but the responding police officer told me the following story when I contacted him several days later to arrange the return of my firearm: "When you woke up, you literally told me seven times that you were carrying concealed and that I needed to secure your firearm. I knew your head was pretty messed up since you couldn't remember talking to me about this after just a few minutes." I wasn't physically able to remove my firearm. The police officer removed it for me. All I had to do to get my firearm back was to make an appointment at the police department that served the city where the accident occurred. Simple process. The "always be sure to notify law enforcement when carrying concealed" part of my concealed carry training must be deeply engrained into my brain. :)

[@gmac8852]

Same exact thing happened to me in September.

[@LLD_RDU]

Had this happen earlier this year. Local PD took my pistol and told me I could come and get it from the department. Department was “Closed” during Covid. Finally got someone to respond to an email. Long story short, I had to go through a petition from the court to get my gun back. Took 5 months since local PD wasn’t helpful. Had to contact a DA’s assistant to help. It was a nightmare. They don’t make it easy in NC to move past a medical emergency.

[@Athonite]

Interesting to see the effects of Covid on this process. How much did you have to spend in total (aside from your time) to get your property back?

[@LLD_RDU]

@@Athonite just under 6 months. I feel like the process could have gone faster had the PD actually did what they said they would do rather than me going on a wild goose chase myself.

[@ArmaGuyz]

EXACTLY... There is no oops you were involved in an accident well take it for safe keeping and you can pick it up when youre well... No its a big stupid drawn out process where they make you feel like a criminal for carrying.

[@alucard3600]

Depends on what county you are in as well, some are much more gun friendly than others.

[@Chebva]

This is a fantastic topic that I was pondering the other day.

[@USCCAOfficial]

We thought the same thing! So we made this video.

[@dalemaloney255]

@@USCCAOfficial thanks, guys!

[@creamythroat]

I don’t know if this was satire but made me laugh, good information glad i clicked.

[@ipodpancakes2874]

I never even asked just found out lol

[@DrTarte]

Working in EMS and found this rather enlightening.

[@USCCAOfficial]

🙏

[@palanthis]

I've been carrying for a very long time. Initially there are a lot of "what if I am carrying when _____" questions. After a while, your mindset shifts to where carrying a concealed firearm is the default and the questions become "what if I am not carrying when ____". This is why I like things like on-line banking. lol.

[@doughesson]

It's been a while since I've been in the lobby of a bank to conduct business. My sister commented on how long it takes to divest of my guns(I carry a backup)& the ammunition just for a 10 minute transaction.

[@charlescarmichael1124]

I remember the last time I went into a bank UNARMED. I accidentally handed the teller my CCW permit for id by mistake instead of my DL. I then said don’t worry I left it in the car. He said oh don’t worry, we actually feel safer when people like you carry inside, you’re not the threat! I guess if I’m cashing a check for a large amount, I would rather walk back to my car with a gun on me. That was several years ago.

[@DavidMcCoyII]

I got transported by EMS the other night and asked the paramedic this question. He said officially, get out of the ambulance and call the police. Unofficially, take the gun and set it aside and have the police meet them at the hospital. I'm also a medic myself, so this really means a lot to me both ways.

[@phillippatterson1080]

Thank you for your service.

[@clocksurfer]

As an EMT who is coincidentally also an IL CCW holder, I've been well prepared to care for patients who are carrying legally. We have good working relationships with various law enforcement agencies which overlap our district, and I would reassure any patient that I trust our LEO's.

[@dirtybauer7022]

You can if you want but I don't trust anyone, even badged revenue generators.

[@clocksurfer]

@@dirtybauer7022 I trust OUR LEO'S here where I work. Your results may vary.

[@ryanvanliew6910]

@@dirtybauer7022 I was a paramedic for many years. And I was 100% a badged revenue generator. That’s a pretty funny description, even though I’m sure you’re referring to LEO. Lots of first responders, including police, are big 2nd amendment advocates. But I’ve also met cops that are actively looking to infringe on people’s rights with the unconstitutional laws in my state. You never know what you’ll get.

[@musicman1eanda]

The 2A says shall not be infringed. There's no such thing as a patient carrying "illegally". And if a law says that it is the case, then that law is unconstitutional.

[@TexasDog3]

No LEO can be trusted. You're delusional and naive if you think you can trust a cop.

[@skipwatson1951]

I was a dispatcher for my local police department for 8 years. This happened several times and the EMS personnel just called us and we'd send an officer to take charge of the firearm. No big deal.

[@ArmaGuyz]

No big deal to take an arm from a law abiding citizen sure NO big deal BUT how often was the firearm immediately returned to the citizen of those times without long several month holds and rigamaroo? How many times was the citizen also cited for improper carry because the magazine was loaded and the firearm was chambered and was reported to the state who issued the license? How many times was it a truly Citizen Rights friendly matter to simply hand over possession of the firearm to the citizen when they came down to get it without a court date having to have passed over a scene citation ect?

[@skipwatson1951]

@@ArmaGuyz I don't know where you are getting your info for "improper carry ..." in my state if you're licensed to carry you can carry...fully loaded, round in the chamber, safety off or on. When the individual was released from the hospital he came by the PD and his property was returned. Good grief; some of you people need to get a life.

[@skipwatson1951]

@Bob McCaskill same goes for you...what I said above. Sheesh!

[@user-vz2sy7tx3w]

@@skipwatson1951 Yea well you got a good department it's not like that everywhere. Try an average of 5 months till you get it back and that's if it doesn't disappear

[@themightypen1530]

I have been in this situation. I just told the EMTs I needed to secure my firearm and they didn't even really seem to care. I live in rural Idaho though, pretty much everyone is armed.

[@TheOutlawMan]

It's because we really don't care, lol. Would you, if you were being paid slightly above minimum wage?

[@philiprichie9419]

I hate to use the meme LOL but it really applies. I live in a People's Republic and even though I'm a licensed CCW permit holder I don't know how it would go down. The LEOs here seem to run the gamut.

[@isaacstiles5710]

I am a Security Manager at a Hospital/Truma Center. If you came into our hospital as a patient with a firearm the firearm will be held and secured in our safe and released back to you when you are discharged. If you happen to transfer to another hospital or facility we would hold it at our hospital until it is claimed or 60 days, which ever comes first. It really isn't seen as a big deal, actually happens more then you'd think.

[@13BGunBunny]

What happens if it's unclaimed and the 60 days has expired?

[@bcarss1970]

Hi Issac. Just curious. Does you hospital post signage regarding firearms be prohibited on all entrances? Thank, Brad.

[@percyfaith11]

@@13BGunBunny They hold a raffle.

[@13BGunBunny]

@@percyfaith11 Thank you, Isaac Stiles.

[@doughesson]

Most of my fellow firefighter/EMTson my volunteer department are also gun owners & wouldn't be bent out of shape to find a gun on a patient. Local protocol is to inform the responding LEOs & have them secure the firearm & verify carry status while we focus on getting the patient ready to go to the hospital. Someone gets detailed to be the patient's rep for the gun until the situation is calmed down & the patient is able to take questions about who to call to get the gun.

[@10RRASK]

I’ve had this happen. I got carbon monoxide poisoning, local PD were the first ones there to get me on oxygen. When PD arrived I handed them my DL and CCW permit. Once the ambulance showed up I asked PD what they wanted me to do with my firearm. The officer removed the firearm with the IWB kydex holster and safely unloaded the firearm. It got put in the evidence locker and later that day, once I got out of the hospital, I when to the station and picked it up.

[@ArmaGuyz]

That is a rare occurrence. Majority of people have to wait to pick it up and pay fines and such. How about the ammo was it returned with the firearm?

[@joshuab77829]

@@ArmaGuyz never had an issue with people picking up there firearms as long as they legal and proper documentation. Honestly though I have had to call for securement of firearms for more law enforcement officers than anyone else. Usually a on tbe job injury

[@10RRASK]

@@ArmaGuyz no reason I would’ve had to have paid any fines. Everything was there, they told me that they would run the serial number when they got to the station, as I would’ve expected they would do.

[@mcroadracer1]

Extremely good information! That is a terrible scenario that could happen and should be addressed more. Thanks brother for making this video.

[@chipmunk9911]

Perfect timing! I've been recently thinking about this very topic. Thank you for all the great work you do!

[@fredmyers485]

I was in a car accident last year requiring a ambulance ride to the hospital and was armed. I handed my CCW permit to the cop, he removed my pistol, unloaded it and put it in the ambulance with me. When I got to the hospital, their security people locked up my pistol until I was released. It was no big deal at all.

[@ArmaGuyz]

No reason to have it placed in an evidence lock up if there's no crime to need it as evidence of. It should be secured at the hospital and returned as soon as possible to the owner. Just like this officer was kind enough to do. I dont like the unloading part but I totally understand the safety concern of a loaded pistol being transported not on your person and by third party.

[@bronx52]

I have a resident CCW Permit from Virginia, back in 2019 I was housesitting my son's home in Maryland. Following a break in while I was out the local County Police were called. When they arrived they made me stay outside while they went in to "clear" the house. While inside they "searched" and found my firearm that was hidden. Subsequently they asked about it and I told them it was mine. I provided proof of purchase as well as my legal permit. The on-site officer in charge said they would return it following a forensic examination. However after it cleared national forensics and not involved in any crimes it was sent to the property clerks office. They refused to release it to me because I didn't meet the criteria for gun ownership in the state of Maryland although I do as far as the state of Virginia is concerned. I'm retired on a small fixed income and cannot afford an attorney. I even suggested that they ship it to a authorized Firearms agent in my state and I'd pay for shipping, all to no avail.

[@pulpfiction2122]

I got hospitalized for an allergic reaction a couple months ago. The hospital doesn't allow firearms. The nurse wanted me to put on a hospital gown, but when I told him I was carrying he said "ok, keep your clothes on" then he ran cover for me when the other people tried to get me to put on the gown.

[@kreeperskid]

I got into a car crash earlier this year, had to go to the hospital but it wasn't anything serious. I told the officer that I had a concealed firearm on my right hip, and asked him what he wanted to do. Luckily here in Tennessee, at least the middle TN area, it is extremely gun friendly. He asked if I had anyone that could come pick it up, so I got my mom to come. Once she got there, he asked the basic questions "Where is it again? Is it chambered? Is it a leather or a kydex holster?" so that he knew how to go about taking it off my hip. Since it was in a good kydex holster, he just helped take the entire holster out of the inside of my pants, and handed it off to my mother when she arrived. He asked if he could run it through to see if it was stolen, yada yada, and I jjust asked that he didn't. Nothing to hide, just don't like people running my stuff, and he completely understood. Overall good experience, besides the wreck lol

[@molonlabe8470]

"Gun friendly". Is that why he wanted you to not have a firearm?

[@wolfsbane938]

The Officer is gun friendly the hospital is not

[@ArmaGuyz]

As far as Im aware TN is not a gun friendly state. Ive heard of several really unfriendly gun laws there.

[@waynewill801]

Got into a motorcycle wreck this year with my revolver in my pocket. Told the police and EMTs it was in my pocket when I was in the ambulance. I had my gun back by the end of the evening. Had no problems. Just be upfront.

[@ChristianConstitutionalist3192]

My Gun Is ALWAYS With Me; I Carry All The Time. You Could Hand The Gun To Someone You Know And Trust Very Well (My Former Boss, My Mom, My Uncle, My Neighbor, And Brothers Boss Are The ONLY People I Would Trust To Hold My Gun For Me). You Could Have Someone You Know And Trust Drive You To The Hospital (My Sister Is The ONLY Person In The Medical Field That I Trust).

[@aazv23]

WoW.... Excellent presentation... A very much needed video.... these are issues that most of the time I don't think about... Thank You.... Keep them coming

[@guydavid8656]

This actually happened to me about six weeks ago, as I am always caring, and having to go to the hospital, fortunately it was not a problem, though it could’ve been, a wonderful hospital staff treated me, and no one noticed the G 26, so that went well, I had received a stab wound that narrowly missed my femoral artery, it cut a nerve bundle, and so now if somebody kicks me in the left shin, no problem I’m not feeling it, I guess if you got to take the positive out of the negative

[@hogzy1227]

This scenario happened to me just last year. Easy common sense process that couldn't have went any easier. I informed the EMT and he summoned the on sight police officer. I was able to get my firearm back a few days later when I got out of the ICU.

[@aerospacepatriot8177]

I read a lot of these responses. Wondering why firearms need to be treated any differently than any other belonging, or personal effects? Such as my wallet, my knife, my flashlight, my cellphone, etc? Put any and all items in a bag that stays with the injured to be either locked up in a hospital locker, or given to next of kin at the hospital. It really doesn't need to be part of the "on sight" police investigation unless used in the commission of a crime.

[@Pikawarps]

It’s generally hospital policy that no firearm is allowed on premises, which would include personal effects storage

[@charlescarmichael1124]

@@aerospacepatriot8177 THANK YOU!!! This is what I’m saying too. Hospital policy does not effect our inherent rights.

[@Dylan-cg9gv]

@@charlescarmichael1124 considering it's private property it does. Your rights apply on public property not private. Just because it's a service offered to the public doesn't mean it's public. It's the same reason any store can refuse you service if you come in with a gun and they don't like it. Not sure why they would but it's their RIGHT to dictate what goes on, on their property.

[@charlescarmichael1124]

@@Dylan-cg9gv yeah I get the private property issue. If you go into Walmart or target etc., and they post a sign… One of my favorite restaurants in town has a sign that says no open carry. I respect that and keep it concealed. However, they can’t search you without your consent…

[@Saanonymous80]

Put your permit behind or beside your Driver's license. If you're KO'd, they'll take your ID to get information, an observant responder will see the Carry Permit Edit: Get one of those "make your own tag" necklaces. Name, Blood Type, Allergies, and "Carry Permit". That's the first thing responders see if your unconscious. Usually a dog tag shape and size. IN RED. You can also put an ICE number on it. They'll usually know you carry, also.

[@doughesson]

Most states cross reference Driver's License files with the advisory for a Handgun Carry Permit for that or any state. One of the numbers on my HCP is my driver's license number

[@mattconklin4026]

@@doughesson same here in NC , also it's attached to my license plate, which kind of upsets me but it's whatever

[@GunCollector007]

Great topic and info!

[@USCCAOfficial]

Thanks!

[@tjsylla]

Great topic.. was wondering about this exact situation since I recently got hit by a car while I was on my morning walk..I happen to not be carrying that morning...

[@michaeljulian4997]

As a paramedic of 25 years, I come across this issue often. I will remove and clear the firearm and place it in a "patient belongings" bag and give them the tear-off strip with the bag number. I then hand it off to security who will return it to the patient when discharged. This being said, I am a gun person and can safely clear just about any semi-auto or revolver. Some that I work with will let the police deal with it.

[@SDbeermug72]

I went for an annual check up at my local clinic. When asked to remove my shirt, it dawned on me I was carrying a concealed weapon. I explained the situation to my provider. She remained very calm and called maintenance. I removed it very carefully, in the holster, wrapped it in a towel, and he kindly took it and locked it in my truck. All was well! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@lanedexter6303]

When I laid the bike down and got a tib-fib fracture a couple miles short of work, the buddy who gave me a lift to the fire station was fine with me leaving my Kimber in his glove box (carried concealed for 40+ years with a PC employer who’d have fired me). In my EMT days I recalled finding a large shoulder holster on the driver of an overturned pickup, just moments before another EMT found his Super Blackhawk on the other side of the cab. Gave it to our Deputy.

[@tommyabernathy9880]

This is a great topic. I’ve carried since ‘97 and I honestly don’t recall ever having thought this through. Very nice! 🍻

[@scottp4077]

Most ambulances carry a lock box for firearms which are handed over to the local PD or Sheriffs dept after arrival at the hospital

[@insaneadventures4391]

From an EMS perspective, please tell us if you are carrying so that we can get a cop to secure it. The guys in my area, for the most part know how to handle a firearm, but not everyone. One good idea is to have a dog tag on your person specifically requesting that your firearm is secured and a receipt is placed with the belongings that go with you to the hospital. I try to be accommodating with patients, but I'm limited with resources.

[@patrickhieb6624]

As a FF/EMT and also have worked as a dispatcher in for about 15 hospitals including a level 1 trauma center. We had lockboxes and a log for any weapon.

[@DC632A]

“Allowed to carry?” That’s the issue. Under the 2d Amendment we are all allowed to carry. Permits should not be needed for A constitutional right.

[@champy1210]

Agreed. Moreover, it’s a Constitutionally guaranteed Natural Right.

[@Jtex_123]

That’s why I love Texas

[@LanternOfLiberty]

This pertains to carry a firearm in a secure area, like a hospital. That's a big difference. Outside of that, I totally agree with you. I hated not being able to carry at the Brad Paisley concert in San Diego. On the other hand, their security team carried AR-15s and MP 5s. 😁

[@Jtex_123]

@@LanternOfLiberty I want an mp5 soooo bad

[@LanternOfLiberty]

@@Jtex_123 We all do...😁

[@entubadao]

Recently I've watched an ASP video where the LEOs and EMR/T crew didn't follow protocols and did nothing of you've just described. The accidented was a felon who hid his prohibited gun in his large pants. Short story: in the ER he pulled his gun on the escorting officers, and a gun battle ensued inside the hospital ! Fortunately, only the bad side was shot and lost. No innocent lives were impacted that day.

[@joshuab77829]

Our protocol is to notify law enforcement. I also document in my care report who it was given to

[@jerbear57]

Hit a deer on my hog in 2019. My weapon was holstered in my saddlebag. Luckily I was conscious and told the state trooper at the scene. He retrieved it for me, then personally delivered it to my home a week later.

[@Sgv1tm]

Thank you for this information

[@patrickmchargue7122]

Good advise for a situation I'd never even considered. Thanks.

[@drewmcvicker1445]

Thanks Kevin, that was very valuable information to know. I hadn’t thought about this type of incident happening.

[@noname47032]

As a veteran, I want to speak to this. If you can drive or have someone to drive you, leave the gun in the car when you arrive. If you are transported by ambulance and are able to speak, inform the paramedics. If you're transported by ride share, inform staff when you arrive. Chances are when paramedics find it, they will secure it and turn it over to the police. VA Hospital rules specifically address this issue as an exception to 18 USC 930. If you're transported to a VA hospital and have your carry pistol, VA police are instructed to remove and secure it, but you *will not* be charged with a crime. You will have to go through a process to get your gun back, though.

[@phillippatterson1080]

Great info. Thank you for your service.

[@maxM38383]

I’m an EMT and an Armed Security guard, this is a great video. Also luckily a lot of people in my Ambulance station are active or retired police and military and we even have our own range group just within our ambulance station. Plus in my county ALL police officers are trained as and have to maintain their full EMT certification which they get in their academy.

[@Dylan-cg9gv]

I honestly thought all officers across the country had to be certified EMTs just because of the crazy situations they can find themselves in. It would make sense in my mind anyways.

[@maxM38383]

@@Dylan-cg9gv unfortunately no they're not. In most places police officers at very least are CPR&AED certified and/or they are Certified First Responders (CFR) which is a lower level of basic 1st aid training than EMT.

[@TheOriginalRick]

I had a slip and fall with the back-of-the-head smack on the concrete sidewalk a few years back, giving me a concussion. The ambulance came to collect me to take me to the hospital. I knew my concealed handgun wasn't going to jump out and hurt anyone so I didn't feel any urgency in explaining that I had one on me. When I got into the emergency room the nurses began prepping me by removing my clothing. At that point I knew it was time to say something. When I notified them that I was carrying a legally concealed firearm I told them there was no need to be concerned or panic over it. One of the nurses laughed and told me her husband had more handguns than he could count and she certainly knew how to take care of it. One of the security guards came to retrieve it, and the next day when discharged I picked it up from the security office with no problems.

[@ArmaGuyz]

Precisely there really isnt a reason to involve Law enforcement and let them sniff you out simply because youre exercising your Constitutional rights. They can take it and return it easily. I think the advice of calling the police ultimately comes from how they do things by the books to prevent any danger of a loose canon to medical staff. I get the safety issue but if you can call a family member and have them meet you at the hospital or the scene I see no reason to involve police be treated like a potential criminal and have your accident treated as Crime scene simply because you opted to carry that day... Or pay citations and fees before having your property returned.

[@Matt-dg6ue]

EMT here. I've ran into this with my patients quite a few times. If they're unconscious, no big deal. If cops are there, I tell them and that's it. If they aren't, I remove the holster if possible, otherwise I cut the belt. If they're conscious, again, no big deal. Cops will handle it, but if they aren't there I typically stand on their non dominate side within arms reach and have them remove the holster and specify to not remove the firearm. I secure it in the locked ambulance narcotics drawer and have law enforcement meet us on scene or at the hospital. If I'm in a more sketchy situation and see the firearm, we swiftly exit the scene and wait down the road in the ambulance until law enforcement arrives. I have no way of defending myself and my safety is top priority. I also want to note that I take a picture of the firearms serial number and during my patient care report I annotate all firearm details. If law enforcement takes it, I have them sign my patient report as well. Always cover your ass.

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

As winter is hitting hard this year, and I’m hearing of a lot of accidents on the road… and also the comments below, I never really thought about this… Thank you for sharing the advice! Definitely makes me rethink some of my practices about carrying in a vehicle.

[@Sully380]

Now if your are in a state like Maryland and you are carrying a gun and even if you are not breaking the law except carrying a gun which shouldn’t be a problem because to keep and BEAR arms is a civil right not a privilege but you will be handcuffed and charged with carrying a legal firearm. More people need to ignore these unconstitutional laws and do what is right and not what you are told. The common criminal even after shooting at someone will get a simple slap on the wrest. Just go to any criminal court and sit and listen and you will see. It is sickening. I am licensed to carry in most of the 50 states because I want to follow the law but to pay and ask someone permission to exercise a civil right is completely ignorant and we should not have to pay for someone else that breaks the law and kills someone.

[@gr8ride411]

As a retired LEO, your advice is on target and very helpful to our Carry community. 👍🏽

[@kennethbrooks1134]

Several of the major hospitals have security with locked boxes.

[@MessySketcher]

Ok , I work for a major medical company in my area, 9 hospitals , I work security services .if an armed patient comes in we ask the patient to make the fire arm safe if able. Then we unload it inventory it in front of the patient place it in a sealed pouch and place it in the safe , then when they are discharged we return the firearm to the patient along with their receipt. Most hospitals even with the no carry permitted policy understand that these things happen and have some sort of safe for these items.

[@motorinmaineiac5081]

Here in Maine we have permitless carry, it is a class C felony if we don't tell EMS or police that we are carrying if we are able to do so. But the funny thing is, if we have a carry permit, we aren't required to inform them that we are carrying.

[@billbailey4641]

Kevin I like all your training videos keep up the good work

[@USCCAOfficial]

Glad you like them!

[@tedgottinger121]

In a gun friendly state it’s not a big deal. I was in a car wreck and had to be taken to the ER. My wife had arrived on the scene, and the responding officer took control of my gun, and put it in my wife’s car.

[@montanamornings8526]

Thanks. Great info

[@mro2352]

When placing my weapon onto myself I always point it in a safe direction, chamber a round, turn off the safety as I’m placing it in the kydex holster. I then insert it, the holster, into the IWB location. Removing it is similar with the exception of pulling it about an inch so I can engage the safety and replace it back in. Anything to protect the trigger. I even store the weapon with it in the holster. Primary concern is trigger protection.

[@johnarnautou8523]

Paramedic Here, this video is very accurate but as to EMS handling a firearm we generally don’t do it even if we are trained and familiar with the procedures. It can potentially delay care if I try to secure a firearm. Not to mention the possibility for negligent discharges that could cause injury to responding personnel or bystanders, it’s much easier to have le secure any weapons we find.

[@psnewsauditor-az5244]

Responded to calls like this. As Incident Commander 1st on scene, I have to insure the scene is safe and secure. Once it is discovered or victim reveals he has a firearm, I call it in immediately with my assessment. Protocol is wait for Sheriff’s to arrive and secure weapon, we are not trained to disarm anyone. We are there to lock and load get victim to ER. This poses and escalates the call, and delays transport. Good info you put out there. Normally when we arrived , officers there, not always the case.

[@honkerman74]

I had a motorcycle crash six years ago and had a concealed handgun on my person. I alerted the first responders and they held it at a local police station while I was in the hospital (they did give me a receipt). They were grateful that I had alerted them, and the process was no hassle at all. So long as we act reasonably and responsibly, things like this usually go smoothly.

[@nicholashahn3476]

This happened during my ride along hours of my emt cert. FBI agent on the way to a press conference for a weird family murder via shotgun. The agent tried to merge at the last second, and rolled his car. I was being messed with by my fto repeatedly during that shift including false calls. 🙃 so I thought they were messing with me until I jumped out of the ambulance and we were in the middle of the freeway. He gave me the 411, but because i was a young newb nobody listened to me, then plop. The gun fell to the floor of the vehicle. The cops and ff freaked out then looked at me and I sorta shrugged lol. They had me do his vitals in the back on the way back. Was a rad experience. Thank you first responders for you service.

[@oleksandrakimov9776]

Thank you Kevin

[@RealDonLarson]

Not a problem around here. Most of us in EMS around here carry as well. This was also a “class” we have done on several occasions for first responders as well as ER personnel.

[@rega3160]

Kevin, thank you for this very informational video. I have always wondered about the what if I had a medical emergency while carrying a weapon. I have a CCL and carry every day. This topic provided much insight for me.

[@johncox2865]

As always, Kevin, very good info. Thank you.

[@NQTOD]

I am a national registered EMT On several occasions I have requested PD to scene to take possession of a firearm on unresponsive patient or motor vehicle accident. I have put it in our narc box if they weren’t available for security. We have a decent sheriff dept. and local PD’s most of them lock it in the trunk and leave their cards with the patient and have them call them when they’re out of ER and they meet them to give it back. We’re all 2A folks in my part of Indiana.

[@azranger8408]

Thank you! Great info - I had never thought about this.

[@doughesson]

The only person who answered my call for help & to take custody of my firearm was my ultraliberal hoplophobic sister. When she got it from the police officer,she held it between her thumb & forefinger like a soiled diaper. The cop, EMTs & I were all laughing & my sister was snarling that"I should throw this in the river!" I stopped laughing & told the officers that I might need to file a stolen firearms report. He suggested that my sister take the gun to our parents' house ASAP & leave it unloaded.

[@DavidMcCoyII]

🤣🤣 every family's got at least one of those, am I right? She sounds like she could do with a healthy dose of Buddy Brown.

[@doughesson]

@@DavidMcCoyII Who?

[@JugglesGrenades]

I ran into this situation once at the scene of a motor vehicle accident. The driver was concerned about leaving their pistol in the vehicle that was going to be towed. Police secured the weapon.

[@seanomeirs8362]

I was on a trip to do some training with my brother out of town. I had to stop and get a motel on my way home, when I had a medical emergency so I called law enforcement to take my guns into the station for safe keeping, because I didn't want to leave them in the car until I got out of the hospital. I was told that I could come to the station to pick them up when I was feeling better. Everything that I have is legitimate, legal, and in my name. It took months and hundreds of dollars to get my legally owned property returned to me. Stuff happens.

[@BlueDragon755]

What state?

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@BlueDragon755 Fresno, Calif.

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@BlueDragon755 The Fresno County Sheriff's were good guys, and eluded to the fact that it was the DOJ that made it so difficult. My record is immaculate, and I do everything by the book, so I knew it would work out. The Deputy that gave me the wrong information was either ignorant of the law, or lying. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@Super_Trooper]

That lock box or "gun box" as we called it at our squad, was actually for the LEOs firearm if we needed one to ride along with us if we had an unruly "passenger."

[@stillplayswithtrains1442]

Thank you I have not thought about this scenario.

[@travissmith2211]

In an effort to reduce a negligent discharge, I prefer belt holsters that don't require a belt to be removed. A paddle holster has been doing well for me with my SP101. The holster that came with my P238 has also served well.

[@akugelman1111]

Great info. Never thought about that.

[@GaveMeGrace1]

Thank you

[@Yes_Alex_Cook]

This is a really important question that I never knew I had. Thanks for the great video!

[@teknoguy2002]

I work as a security supervisor for a healthcare organization. Most of the time the police or EMT crew will let us know that there is a firearm. Security will either try to get it taken home by a family member, or we can secure it in our safe. Granted, each org. might do it a bit different, but that's how we handle it. It's usually pretty simple for the owner.

[@thionic_acid]

I was rear-ended by someone going highway speeds so needless to say I was hurting very badly. Fire department was the first on scene. The immediately started going to work to get me out of the truck. I told them I am carrying and need the deputy to come see me the second he gets on scene. The deputy arrived a few minutes later. I told the deputy I was armed and where I had it. I was shaking badly so the deputy had fire cut my belt and holster came free. Deputy said he would come find me later and I was carted off to the ER. An hour or so later the deputy showed up with my backpack which he put some items from my truck as well as my holstered handgun. He said the only way he could bring it into the hospital was unloaded and he has to keep the ammo. I believe he did me a huge favor by bringing it to me rather than trying to chase it down.

[@ccsmith2937]

I’m a Paramedic & I CCW. It’s a mixed bag at my agency about half the personnel are shooters but by policy if we are on scene & know about a gun then Police secure it.

[@822dennis]

Excellent information.

[@billvilla7799]

Great topic Kevin! This never crossed my mind.

[@13BGunBunny]

I am physically disabled and had two heart attacks. This is good information to know.

[@Just1American1966]

I'm a former LEO who has been an EMT in Florida for almost three decades. Given the prevalence of carry-licensees, I think some rudimentary training in EMS on this topic is certainly warranted. (..and, yes, I carry off the job.)

[@jamesalles139]

thanks

[@rudimarchand8613]

Great info, thanks Kevin!

[@anothergoogleuser]

Thanks for the update, and thanks for sharing.

[@polarisgm]

Great advise! I have wondered about this myself what I should do in any of these situations!

[@rickl.1603]

Thanks for the tips!

[@peterbernard3068]

Good advice.

[@Surferjo]

great video ty.MERRY CHRISTMAS...........

[@kitvandaveer7735]

Very good advice.

[@johncolon244]

Thank for your For you advice kavin.

[@phillippatterson1080]

Great video and information but you're about 10 days too late. Last week while at work I had to call an ambulance for a heart attack, I was awake, conscious and worried about what to do with my weapon. Someone was coming to get the vehicle that I was driving but I did not know when. I let my EMT know that I was legally carrying a weapon and he told me they'll take care of it at the hospital because he did not want to wait with my transportation to the hospital. As they were checking me in and stripping me at the hospital, I removed my weapon, dropped the mag and cleared the weapon after letting the people know that I have a weapon on my person, the ER tech's response was great, they called security to store and secure my weapon on premises, I picked it up as I was discharged after showing ID. I'm not saying this is the right thing but all things considered I think it went very well. And yes, it did give me a whole different aspect of looking at things when carrying. Thanks again for your videos I learn something with every one of them. Since I'm on here commenting I will also tell you that not only those of you that carry a weapon but those of you that own a weapon, the first thing you should do once you purchase that weapon is join the USCCA, you will not regret it. GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Excellent topic. Thank you. The comments are also very helpful.

[@wayne1559]

THIS HAPPENED TO MY NEPHEW , EMT CALLED POLICE TO TAKE THE GUN OFF HIM

[@toniamoore1]

Thank you Kevin I love your videos

[@johndennis6253]

Good info, thanks.

[@philiprichie9419]

Kevin, This is great information and one of my greatest concerns as a CCW licensee. Thank you for this video. I frankly never thought of removing holster and contents as a single package. Great idea. Thank you.

[@MrLeram12]

Very timely information. Just the other day I was thinking what if. Thanks.

[@USCCAOfficial]

Glad it was helpful!

[@10bbremer]

What if you fall into a wood chipper? Is that a problem?

[@theultimatetowerofterrorre301]

Great informational video!