NU METAL THEN VS. NOW

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Thomas Hogue

Thomas Hogue

4 ай бұрын

Nu Metal stripped out much of the ornamentation of traditional metal - it was all about simple groovy riffs, down-tuned guitars, and angst-driven lyrics, often combined with electronic, rap, or industrial elements. This simplicity made heavy music that was extremely accessible and broke through to the mainstream like never before, with bands like Linkin Park, System of a Down, and Limp Bizkit reaching their peaks in the 2000s. However, these same qualities have caused nu metal to sometimes be rejected by hardcore metalheads as "not metal enough."
After dying down by the late 2000s, nu metal has started to re-emerge recently with modern bands that draw heavily from those early nu metal giants, this time combined with metalcore and djent influences. The focus on groove remains, but how do you think their riffs stack up to the classics? Let me know in the comments!
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@sweetypuss
@sweetypuss 4 ай бұрын
putting vended right after slipknot was very clever, hehe
@davemorris7678
@davemorris7678 4 ай бұрын
There’s the comment I was looking for! I thought the same thing lol
@thelittleowl1
@thelittleowl1 4 ай бұрын
static-x push it. Total banger of a song.
@Landekar
@Landekar 4 ай бұрын
Industrial
@thelittleowl1
@thelittleowl1 4 ай бұрын
@@Landekar industrial nu groove metal I define it lol
@myfaceismyshield5963
@myfaceismyshield5963 4 ай бұрын
​@@Landekarit's NU metal. Textbook definition of it, barely proper industrial elements to it. Even Slipknot has more industrial in it than Static-X does.
@schwann145
@schwann145 4 ай бұрын
​@@myfaceismyshield5963well that's just wildly inaccurate 😂
@salsashark2004
@salsashark2004 4 ай бұрын
Metalcore has definitely rubbed off on a lot of new nu metal and I dig it.
@lendariorandom
@lendariorandom 4 ай бұрын
prog metal yet
@AgachartSukchouy
@AgachartSukchouy 4 ай бұрын
djent
@Frankieskorns
@Frankieskorns 4 ай бұрын
@@AgachartSukchouysound not a genre
@carlosgarate5708
@carlosgarate5708 4 ай бұрын
Jajajajajajaja que alguien le explique quien influenció a quien
@ristoherranen816
@ristoherranen816 4 ай бұрын
And vice versa
@luciopaz6271
@luciopaz6271 4 ай бұрын
I really miss 2000's nu metal songs, thanks to them I got into metal and eventually heavier stuff, but nu metal was where I really found my starting point identity as a teenager.
@TheSimonHxC
@TheSimonHxC 4 ай бұрын
These twins really know how to play the guitar. Wow!
@vladv5126
@vladv5126 4 ай бұрын
The guy on the left has better taste though.
@viscid09
@viscid09 4 ай бұрын
Triplets you miss the third brother behind the camera!
@Kupferhans
@Kupferhans 4 ай бұрын
One step closer decides it! Im impressed by the creativity of some of the older riffs. Thanks for this great video!
@TheVVK1991
@TheVVK1991 4 ай бұрын
never been a fan of Nu metal but those old tracks sound so gorgeous and remind me of my school time when everyone used to listen to LP, Korn, Papa Roach, SOAD etc. Goose bumps indeed
@hatempire
@hatempire 4 ай бұрын
Tallah has some tricky riffs without losing that nu metal "bounce". A vibe similar to "we could go full on mathcore if we wanted". Hope to see them live someday.
@RainbowGravity92
@RainbowGravity92 4 ай бұрын
Bonus song is Push It from Static-X. They're my all time favorite industrial metal band, and Wisconsin Death Trip is my favorite album from them. May Wayne forever rest in peace.
@cardinalcopia2762
@cardinalcopia2762 4 ай бұрын
Old Nu Metal for Life ❤️🤘 RIP Chester
@digitaldeathsquid3448
@digitaldeathsquid3448 4 ай бұрын
Was pleasantly surprised by the inclusion of Nova Twins and discovering Omerta. If anyone happens to be attempting to look for a modern nu-metal band with some fantastic original content, I believe Red Method should have you covered.
@BenMcManus
@BenMcManus 4 ай бұрын
They're really good, thank you for that recommendation
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 4 ай бұрын
still blows me away how nu metal came back in fashion and that it's ok to like it now
@salvadorricardojimenez5401
@salvadorricardojimenez5401 4 ай бұрын
It's probably the kids of original Nu Metal fans & artists that are making the subgenre come back. I don't see how else it could come back. Nu Metal riding the popularity of Rap's 90s mainstream success helped catapult it, so now I think it's just the Gen Z kids of original Nu Metal fans & artists resurrecting the subgenre.
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 4 ай бұрын
@@salvadorricardojimenez5401 it is most likely because of millennials’ nostalgia. A lot of us got into metal, or more into metal because of nu metal. Also it was a really fresh sound at the time, completely divorced from what were then perceived as outdated musical tropes or playing super fast and soloing and what not
@northwindkey
@northwindkey 4 ай бұрын
Honestly? I think Bring Me The Horizon has a lot to do with it. They put A LOT of Linkin Park inspiration on Semptinernal and That's The Spirit, both of which became very influential albums in their own right. Suddenly you had Motionless In White bringing in KoRn influence after that.
@skullcrushincaleb13
@skullcrushincaleb13 4 ай бұрын
TALLAH!!!! Finally someone recognizes them such a good band
@MattCanev419
@MattCanev419 4 ай бұрын
Thomas, these are really really well done on so many levels. The song choices are killer 🔥 ..and once again youve introduced me to a few new songs/bands 🤘
@ryandonavon7451
@ryandonavon7451 4 ай бұрын
Push It! Wayne was a legend! great vid!
@treyelrey8548
@treyelrey8548 4 ай бұрын
Facts!! Criminally underappreciated band.
@-.MICHAEL.-
@-.MICHAEL.- 4 ай бұрын
Old: Nu-Metal New: "Hey! Let's play Mick Gordon!"
@ZeyTheDaemon
@ZeyTheDaemon 3 ай бұрын
Truuuuuuuuue lol
@TooYourBro
@TooYourBro 4 ай бұрын
Sound quality is on another level! Great video!
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@koki31
@koki31 4 ай бұрын
I love this series!
@Wherespaulbearer
@Wherespaulbearer 4 ай бұрын
I'm old as shit but still so much character within the older tracks.
@isaiasabinadisosagarcia936
@isaiasabinadisosagarcia936 3 ай бұрын
Might just have found a couple of new bands to check out. Thanks!
@mattreynierberger7529
@mattreynierberger7529 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always !Seeing Nu Metal in the title I was hoping for some Tallah riff aaaaand.... Yeeaaaa second riff is a Tallah riff. Great playing great tone and great mustache well done !
@mitchthemetalhead2589
@mitchthemetalhead2589 4 ай бұрын
I clicked on this just to make sure Tallah is in the Nu Metal now, and appropriately they were the first in line! Tallah is SO slept on! 🤘🐸🐇🌀
@mattreynierberger7529
@mattreynierberger7529 4 ай бұрын
@@mitchthemetalhead2589 Yeah another Tallah's fan !! Imo the music they make is so much more than "just" Nu Metal but they Indeed have a huge Nu Metal influences 😁🐰
@mitchthemetalhead2589
@mitchthemetalhead2589 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree…A HUNDRED AND FIFTY PERCENT! 🌀🤘
@ellocodelbajo2060
@ellocodelbajo2060 4 ай бұрын
I like Tetrarch, Vended and Ded, of course, but nothing beats the classics.
@Nishinga.
@Nishinga. 4 ай бұрын
That Stricken riff is still one of my favorites, holy shit it rips. That song was so fun to play on Guitar Hero 3 but man my fingers hurt from the chord progression hahah
@danlesterchua7923
@danlesterchua7923 4 ай бұрын
The pinch harmonic inserted before the second verse sounds badass
@metallov3r893
@metallov3r893 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the list of cool gangs I haven't heard.
@AltaPisco
@AltaPisco 4 ай бұрын
So hype to see Omerta !!
@jacksonaugust7310
@jacksonaugust7310 4 ай бұрын
That homage to static at the end my dudes magic.
@burnman669
@burnman669 4 ай бұрын
Static-X - Push it !!
@PrakharSrivastav
@PrakharSrivastav 4 ай бұрын
Hey man - love your channel for these kinds of videos! It would be awesome if you could also add the tuning of the song in the video or the description so that I can decide to learn them :D
@deanlewis4074
@deanlewis4074 4 ай бұрын
Drop C or C# should cover you for just about everything
@Spiderlix
@Spiderlix 3 ай бұрын
The first modern nu song ressembles with a modern metalcore/djent song to me.Good video.
@astonrichardson5288
@astonrichardson5288 4 ай бұрын
They all sound pretty cool!
@funnyperson4027
@funnyperson4027 4 ай бұрын
I love tallah so much thank you for choosing them
@dimadima2705
@dimadima2705 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, you push it!🤘
@Sxionix
@Sxionix Ай бұрын
really cool to see Nova Twins getting some love here
@ncochran01
@ncochran01 3 ай бұрын
Nu Metal was a product of the time period. The 90s and early 2000s were a time of difficult times in the US. Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City. Gang wars, rise in drugs, Y2K. All of this came out in our music. Nu Metal was a rock for many of us angsty teenagers. Glad to see some of that went forward and parts of it can be heard in current songs.
@x-Gingerbeard-x
@x-Gingerbeard-x 4 ай бұрын
Old Nu-Metal is way better! Much more memorable and recognizable songwriting. People have been and will still be playing Linkin Park, Korn, Disturbed, Static-X, Mudvayne, SOAD, Slipknot etc. for years to come.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 4 ай бұрын
I agree with that. I appreciate the new one, but there’s no denying that the old guard had riffs that can be recognized on first listen.
@x-Gingerbeard-x
@x-Gingerbeard-x 4 ай бұрын
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 Exactly! Not just that, all those bands have a sound of their own, you can easily tell them apart. With these modern bands it just sounds like it could almost be written by one and the same band. Same production styles, same tropes, riffs that are more so about the chugchugs + octaver pedal instead of writing something engaging/memorable/recognizable. This is just my opinion ofcourse and I'm sure there are some great modern nu-metal bands out there that I've not heard of yet.
@michaelstewart4461
@michaelstewart4461 4 ай бұрын
The new songs ARE memorable and recognizable, you just aren't familiar with them or aren't AS familiar with them. I'm familiar with both old and new and recognized nearly every riff in this immediately.
@asre1503
@asre1503 4 ай бұрын
Is it because they are nostalgic to you?
@funnyperson4027
@funnyperson4027 4 ай бұрын
@@x-Gingerbeard-xI’d argue that you could tell tallah wrote a song if you heard it those guys are wild as hell
@DylanJouglah-Shields
@DylanJouglah-Shields Ай бұрын
Great to see Nova Twins included! Underrated band who need more attention
@awaanparis811
@awaanparis811 3 ай бұрын
I found classic Nu Metal vibe in Nova Twins and Omerta. Finally.
@Landekar
@Landekar 4 ай бұрын
Hey, Tom, been asking you consistently, cause it's in serious demand: how do you achieve such sound? Through which IR or DSP are you processing your tracks? I get that songs are fully arranged, but the sound of your guitar specifically is what I don't get. You better start making your own sound archetype, or give some producer tips away, cause I've dying to find that out.
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I use Helix Native actually and an Ownhammer IR. Maybe one day I should make a quick video about the details...
@szynom2587
@szynom2587 4 ай бұрын
I love that Slipknot/Vended comparison
@andrewcoates4952
@andrewcoates4952 4 ай бұрын
For me old Nu metal still reigns supreme
@joshbabbitt9243
@joshbabbitt9243 4 ай бұрын
Ohgghhh, I see it, oogghhh I need it!
@DigitalBath742
@DigitalBath742 4 ай бұрын
As an old skool nu metal fan, I love a bit of Cane Hill, Nova Twins, and Wargasm in my playlist.
@GnildnewOfficial
@GnildnewOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Tech Death, then vs. now when?? 😮 Would die for that one. New Job For A Cowboy is an extraordinary example 🤘
@dorsia6938
@dorsia6938 4 ай бұрын
That band made a really cool evolution
@GnildnewOfficial
@GnildnewOfficial 4 ай бұрын
@dorsia6938 yes! They've come a long way and I definitely love them more as they've evolved
@dorsia6938
@dorsia6938 4 ай бұрын
@@GnildnewOfficial me too, their recent singles have been absolute bangers
@GnildnewOfficial
@GnildnewOfficial 4 ай бұрын
@dorsia6938 oh yeah dude. Full album drop on the 23rd!
@Bravelonelypeople721
@Bravelonelypeople721 3 ай бұрын
People gate keeping old nu metal is incredibly and hilariously ironic. It used to be the most derided musical genre at the time now its "good". Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. I also say this as someone raised on nu metal.
@GT-qv1gl
@GT-qv1gl 3 ай бұрын
Tallah is on a whole other level. Nostalgia holds every old band here above water except System of a Down, let's be real here.
@user-ks3jk2cf5p
@user-ks3jk2cf5p 3 ай бұрын
Eeee You Push It! 🤩🤘
@quinn.89
@quinn.89 4 ай бұрын
Bonus song : Static X - Push it. 😎✊️🤘🎶🎵🎸🥁🎵🎶. R.I.P. Wayne.
@rayes119
@rayes119 4 ай бұрын
Nu metal is just so cool!! Also your covers sound ever better than the original!!
@MattCanev419
@MattCanev419 4 ай бұрын
Agree
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 4 ай бұрын
High praise! Thanks so much
@thomask9577
@thomask9577 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I love Nu Metal, but normally don’t like singing in it. I would love full versions of these!
@raulfigueroa588
@raulfigueroa588 4 ай бұрын
Except the Korn one but yes agree
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 4 ай бұрын
Bonus Round: Static - X - Push It.
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 4 ай бұрын
I see that everyone else said it before me, but once I got the end, I noticed the riff right away.
@Augustines
@Augustines 4 ай бұрын
What the model LTD do you have? Some kind of custom?
@rolandvoros6640
@rolandvoros6640 4 ай бұрын
KS M-6 Ken Susi signature
@MightyGuy8885
@MightyGuy8885 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't really consider the new stuff Nu Metal. Nu Metal had that funk and hip hopish grove that this other stuff doesn't really have. Especially when you look at the drums, most Nu Metal drummer beats weren't double bass focused. That was more when 2000's Metal started becoming popular, and triple picking became more mainstream. Before that, it was mainly Fear Factory and kind of Static X doing that.
@thomassochacki128
@thomassochacki128 4 ай бұрын
Being nearly 40, growing up there was no better album than slipknot's 1st album. Around that time, there was nothing else like it.
@Matthew-px9nu
@Matthew-px9nu 4 ай бұрын
Im 40 too , still remember the day my brother gave the CD and I put it on in the car , jaw dropped - perfect by all accounts raw and aggressive
@deafworldstudios8644
@deafworldstudios8644 4 ай бұрын
Then Iowa came. Tell me you loved Iowa.
@miahthorpatrick1013
@miahthorpatrick1013 4 ай бұрын
Slipknot’s first album is an absolute classic from start to finish. There hasn’t been much in the last quarter of a century to top it.
@deafworldstudios8644
@deafworldstudios8644 4 ай бұрын
@@miahthorpatrick1013 what about Iowa? it's literally the best sequel.
@miahthorpatrick1013
@miahthorpatrick1013 4 ай бұрын
@@deafworldstudios8644 Iowa is amazing. To be honest it’s just as good and essential as the self titled record.
@clavicusvile5450
@clavicusvile5450 4 ай бұрын
What guitar amp is good for getting those sounds?
@clothbooster
@clothbooster 4 ай бұрын
6505
@nucygnet5881
@nucygnet5881 4 ай бұрын
Should've used Too Far Gone for Cane Hill and Architect for DED. I also think that instead of Stricken, you should've Stupify for Disturbed, and replace Nova Twins for another band like Ocean Grove or UnityTX.
@MP-et1eu
@MP-et1eu 4 ай бұрын
Any other recommendations?
@Mad-v3d0n
@Mad-v3d0n 4 ай бұрын
Antiamorous is the best track I discovered in 2024
@Armageddon-yt3so
@Armageddon-yt3so 4 ай бұрын
Yeah Imma go with the old Nu Metal on this one. Listening to the new Nu Metal tracks here, aside from like 1 or 2 songs, the they just sound kinda samey to me. Whereas the old Nu Metal songs all sound different from each other. Also the Bonus Round song is Push It by Static-X!
@mammontustado9680
@mammontustado9680 4 ай бұрын
I like that the guy on the right has a thicker mustache 😂
@farhanvamp
@farhanvamp 4 ай бұрын
The old nu metal is where the feel is real. Every song written with lots of pain and hatred
@juanarroyo5973
@juanarroyo5973 4 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell me the model of both guitars?!?! They are spectacular!!! I’m hard of hearing and it gave me chills. 😢
@benjipc5637
@benjipc5637 4 ай бұрын
Schecter C-1 FR S SLS Elite and ESP LTD KS-7.
@XannMagus
@XannMagus 3 ай бұрын
These sound like different genres all together lol I was a fan of nu metal back then but nowadays I prefer the modern approach because in the meantime I've come to live djent. Also the bonus is Static X, Push it
@jordantesta3915
@jordantesta3915 4 ай бұрын
I was surprised to not see static-x and here it comes ❤
@miahthorpatrick1013
@miahthorpatrick1013 4 ай бұрын
Nu-metal from today has definitely taken on other genres and made itself into something that may be seen as a betrayal of old school nu-metal but I like both.
@asyrafishak4619
@asyrafishak4619 3 ай бұрын
What guitar model is that on the left? Thanks
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 3 ай бұрын
Schecter SLS elite
@asyrafishak4619
@asyrafishak4619 3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasHogue whoa, got a reply from the man himself. Thanks 👍🏻
@sadxxaaxxsak4841
@sadxxaaxxsak4841 Ай бұрын
the song was push-it by static x
@MrAlmostheros
@MrAlmostheros 4 ай бұрын
I love the new stuff but nothing is going to be the old school nu metal that opened the door for all the bands today and this further proves it
@THCSkateCrew
@THCSkateCrew 3 ай бұрын
Personally I find the new style of nu-metal way more entertaining to listen to and it feels so good how heavier it seems to have become and Tallah is just outright crazy.
@sabakun0gaara
@sabakun0gaara 4 ай бұрын
Static X- Push it🤘
@MetalHeadJagger
@MetalHeadJagger 4 ай бұрын
the Bonus Round Is Obviously Static-X - Push It my all time favorite band!!!
@livingeveryday777
@livingeveryday777 4 ай бұрын
Tallah is the only good new nu-metal band. Love them
@Raadicality
@Raadicality 2 ай бұрын
I'm fill with 2000s nostalgia
@dadish90
@dadish90 4 ай бұрын
The bonus track should be push it, from static-X
@sadjesuschrist
@sadjesuschrist 4 ай бұрын
я металист новой закалки и так же, как и большинство начинал с ню метала. Но я даже не пытался притрагиваться к современному ню металу. Почему? Хороший вопрос. Тут дело в том, что ню метал это про несколько известных групп, андерграунду внимания никакого не уделяется. Щас слушаю, и вроде даже хорошо. Видос огонь🔥
@krailanuar
@krailanuar 4 ай бұрын
Love Nu Metal Till Now 41 Y.O
@mancy101
@mancy101 4 ай бұрын
I find Tallah because this video, so thanks
@Elkin-B
@Elkin-B 4 ай бұрын
What tuning is it? Drop C?
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 4 ай бұрын
Some on the left are Drop C like Bodies, Strickened and Toxicity. But there's a mix of tunings so I'd google check which song you're interested in
@quad4machine769
@quad4machine769 4 ай бұрын
PUSH IT !!!
@marcosjuan3142
@marcosjuan3142 4 ай бұрын
Oldy it's goldy
@nigiltor1486
@nigiltor1486 4 ай бұрын
5:47 Static-X - Push it
@alejandrotejadam.151
@alejandrotejadam.151 4 ай бұрын
Yeah! You push it! (x3) 'yu, ya pasha asha! (x3) 😂 It's 'Static-X - Push it'! It reminds me the year 2000, I was 14 and I loved to watch the weird video 🤘🏼 (similar to Tool's videos)
@illalternative
@illalternative 4 ай бұрын
Bonus is STATIC-X - Push it
@akshayde
@akshayde 4 ай бұрын
Old numetal was recognizable because the riff was great. It was all about that one riff. New numetal is all about upping the technicality. Also the lower the tuning the less memorable the riff
@Tyelkormoko
@Tyelkormoko 4 ай бұрын
great video, but I don't even understand what Nu Metal is supposed to be? I thought metal with rap lyrics and a dj, but everybody puts in Disturbed, SoaD and Papa Roach in it too, so ist it just metal bands who made music in the early 2000's?
@d3th_2_all
@d3th_2_all 4 ай бұрын
No. Nu Metal is categorized by bouncy and groovy riffs because of the hip hop influence. That’s why SOAD, Disturbed, and Papa Roach are labeled as Nu Metal. If it was only bands that made metal music in the early 2000s then bands like Killswitch Engage, Bring Me The Horizon, Bullet for My Valentine, Converge, etc would be labeled as Nu Metal Edit: supposed to be informative. I’m not being rude
@nobrkt
@nobrkt 4 ай бұрын
Static-X - Push it. Yeah! YOU PUSH IT!
@TimOGhoul
@TimOGhoul 4 ай бұрын
Bonus: Static-X - Push It
@MooseDefenseAndOutdoors
@MooseDefenseAndOutdoors 4 ай бұрын
YEAAAAHHHHHH NOW PUSH IT! Static-X babyyyyy
@northwindkey
@northwindkey 4 ай бұрын
Was not expecting the first "Modern Nu Metal" song they played to sound like a Converge instrumental lol. Since when did Nu Metal mix with Mathcore?
@musicalcompanion5890
@musicalcompanion5890 4 ай бұрын
sTATIC x
@kommissar.murphy
@kommissar.murphy 3 ай бұрын
Somewhere along the way we lost that laid back groove in favour of forced technicality.
@4pplc0r33
@4pplc0r33 4 ай бұрын
Clicked for Omerta
@landmine55
@landmine55 4 ай бұрын
If anybody liked new nu-metal, definitely check out Moodring!
@facundoleonel487
@facundoleonel487 3 ай бұрын
bonus: static x- push it
@DrxSlump
@DrxSlump 4 ай бұрын
Slipknot defined metal playing for so many decades to come...
@roshanrao4738
@roshanrao4738 4 ай бұрын
omertà mentioned ‼️‼️‼️
@marcelpilz5101
@marcelpilz5101 4 ай бұрын
Last song Push it Static X
@ElAbismo
@ElAbismo 4 ай бұрын
Say what you will about modern nu-metal. Vended is awesome! I'm saying it as an old-school kind of musician
@mflambert
@mflambert 4 ай бұрын
everyone should just vote THEN
@ihateyou0000
@ihateyou0000 4 ай бұрын
somewhere it's getting better. Somewhere worst.
@loganryan1317
@loganryan1317 4 ай бұрын
I feel like that antiamorous song was VERY similar to science by soad
@custardstuff5178
@custardstuff5178 4 ай бұрын
I'm just here to learn new bands
@IamCceeLL
@IamCceeLL 4 ай бұрын
new nu metal experiments with complexity that ita hard to headbang to it. you cant beat fpr example "korn's blind" riffage in a live concert.
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