I’m still in shock about the fact that 1 RTG becomes orphan in the USA everyday. I’ll do my research and bring it back to my fellow colleagues to see what actions can be taken on it. Be sure to show love to Kyle’s original video which I’ve linked in the description and to check out his channel. ☢️👩🏽🔬
@LogicalNiko Жыл бұрын
Correction 1 uncontrolled radioactive source (an orphan of any type of radioactive regulated material) on an overall average. Most of these tend to be smaller samples, or radiological sources used for cancer treatment/imaging. RTGs are very uncommon in the United States and mainly are only used in military or space applications (very rarely). Other sources of material are way more common, and some have very short half-lives so are not necessarily a big worry. But sometimes they are larger. I used to live near, and visit, Red Gate Woods in Illinois. And there is a history of people finding parts left over from the first secret reactors/piles that existed there. There is a high probability that it’s all found and buried now (it’s now swept and checked every few years as after operations were declassified, the NRC stepped in, and later turned it over to the EPA for long term management. And this is why there are “do not dig” signs everywhere, areas covered in concrete, no drinking fountains, a mountain of paperwork for any park maintenance, and why it can not be used for anything else but a park for a few thousand years) I suspect a lot of these are small lab samples that accidentally get thrown out or misplaced in universities or the like (it happens, especially with lower end radiation sources).
@spvillano Жыл бұрын
@@LogicalNiko especially true given NASA has ran out of RTG's to field in their deep space probes. What we do end up with is orphaned *sources*, each of which can result in a massive fine for the abandoning party and trust me, they'll find a responsible licensed party. Anything hotter than a smoke detector being orphaned will bring a significant regulatory response and the sound of a wrist being smacked - with a sledgehammer. Don't mind me, I still remember the volume of crap I had to go through to just enter a room with sources, all to fix one computer and be nowhere physically near a source. Situation: You're in a radioactive source repository and a sealed radioactive source falls on your foot. What is the appropriate response equipment to be summoned? A toe truck. I'll just get my hat...
@jonhutto580 Жыл бұрын
Most "Orphan sources" are not like that.. I know of one in the US that was handled.. It was a damaged and neglected X-ray machine from a Clinic that closed years ago. It had a small amount of Cobalt 60 in a shielded section of the device. It was barely detectable outside the device, but it was, by law a "Orphan Radiological Source" and HASMAT closed the area, removed the device and properly disposed of it.
@spvillano Жыл бұрын
@@jonhutto580 yep. And the US NRC is really good at locating those responsible, even when the organization ceases to exist and administering a very, very firm and stern pee-pee smack.
@LogicalNiko Жыл бұрын
@@jonhutto580 yeah it’s the medical devices that tend to be the worst. They sit in the hospital/clinic for decades, the buildings get sold, moved, equipment hauled off, and people don’t realize it’s a regulated nuclear device.
@kylehill Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Elina. Appreciate you and your work, but I'd prefer in the future that you don't use my *entire* video so there's no reason for your audience to check out the original. Thanks.
@colsylvester639 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks to both. Elina, did you know about ration pack heaters? kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4PcZYR4hsqdfLc
@arizonadeux Жыл бұрын
@Elina: one thing you'll learn from Kyle's Half-Life playlist is that if you ever see a suspiciously shiny cylinder somewhere, you RUN and tell some authorities.
@real_MacrocosM Жыл бұрын
@@arizonadeux or anything mysteriously self illuminated!!
@JSMan5000 Жыл бұрын
Holy hell. Kyle putting down the ban hammer!!! 😮😮
@MeppyMan Жыл бұрын
I saw this video and went straight to your video and watched that first, but then I am already a subscriber. I then came back here and skipped to her reactions. I think there is a place for reaction videos like this, but agree she used way too much of your original video content.
@marvintpandroid2213 Жыл бұрын
Strangely warm cylinder --- Hell no.
@spvillano Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think I'd only feel safe if I had safely stored it next to photographic film.
@EShirako Жыл бұрын
"It's like magic! And surely TOTALLY safe!" I like a comment from @AllExistence up above. "Remember guys, if energy appears from nowhere, it's most certainly paid for by your lifespan." That really seems to sum up the 'new saying' that I'd love to spread through our parents. "Look both ways" and "No such thing as a free lunch", "Invisible energy comes from your life force." Though really it should be seen as an extension of "No such thing as a free lunch", because that lunch is simply 'heat', and it's VERY not 'free' in the end.
@BenjaminLupton Жыл бұрын
Kyle also did one about a similar accident in Brazil from an abandoned medical device that caused an entire city to get exposed
@marianmarkovic5881 Жыл бұрын
First time I heard of this was on Plainly difficult channel 2years ago,.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGTOlqCvjciVjtE
@orangecat504 Жыл бұрын
Yep I highly recommend her checkout the Goiânia accident doc. It is mind boggling how much incompetentnce went into that disaster
@Juanxlink Жыл бұрын
That was goiania, no "entire city", altho that makes no difference. If you dont already, check "plainly difficult" and enjoy.
@olenilsen4660 Жыл бұрын
@@Juanxlink What do you mean "not the entire city"? I know not everyone got terminally ill, but this shit took the bus around town! It´s a nightmare in terms of uncontrolled radiological exposure!
@Zarcondeegrissom Жыл бұрын
plainly difficult has a play list of them things. it's always the less educated that pay the price for the actions or neglect of others.
@theAessaya Жыл бұрын
Frankly, having lived through the 90s and early 2000s in a post-soviet republic (even if I was but a child then), I am absolutely not surprised that something like RTGs or other kind of radiological sources could get lost. The times were bad, especially deeper in Russia, and nobody really cared about things like that. Hell, nobody really cared about them when USSR still existed, but at least then there was some accounting. With the collapse it was all spread around and all paper trails and traces were lost among the over a dozen breakaway states. As for the incident, I've been aware of it. Outside of Kyle there is another youtuber who does similar kind of videos, Plainly Difficult. He's racked up a significant amount of radiological disaster videos of his own there.
@captainz9 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but at least they should have been properly marked... Danger symbols & writing at least to warn most people away.
@theAessaya Жыл бұрын
@@captainz9 yes, yes they should have.
@SeamusDonohueEVEOnline Жыл бұрын
Kyle Hill's entire "Half-Life" series is worth watching. :D
@marianmarkovic5881 Жыл бұрын
If you are bored, Plainly difficult "nuclear stuff" playlist is for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGbai6KprLiBrcU
@philshorten3221 Жыл бұрын
It's worth remembering there are many many medical applications for radioactive sources in everything from Hospital, to Dentists to Vets etc etc. Whilst staff may be trained in the operation of "new" kit, as staff change and the fortunes of private facilities change it is easier to understand how the danger posed by an old obsolete piece of equipment can get forgotten. Videos like this should be shown at Schools to make the general public much more aware of the dangers.
@danilooliveira6580 Жыл бұрын
that is basically how the Goiania incident happened. it was a improperly discarded nuclear source used for radiotherapy. people that didn't knew about the radioactive material just discarded the machines in a dump instead of calling the nuclear agency when the hospital was demolished.
@marianmarkovic5881 Жыл бұрын
if it is warm/hot for touch, and you dont know why,. Drop and run,...
@spvillano Жыл бұрын
@@marianmarkovic5881 just stack photographic film around it. Once processed, you can sell the imagery as "ghostly images". ;) Although, to be serious, a ring of buckets of water would be more than adequate shielding for a 0.6 mev beta source, with a couple of inches of wooden cover. At least until they could set up a proper nuclear security theater company to deal with it.
@michaelpettersson4919 Жыл бұрын
And the staff must be careful at work with these radiation sources. As such, as a patient I may stay there totally exposed at the X-ray machine but the operator are at a safe distance, protected. For me it a few times during a lifetime exposures but the hospital staff work with these on a daily basis.
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
I watched Kyle's video before your reaction video, and it was chilling to see your response. Tragically, the chaos inside the former Soviet Union after collapse means that few, if any, of those responsible will be held accountable. Those poor woodsmen were probably barely literate, and were ignorant of any radioactive devices smaller than reactors or bombs.
@ianmcintosh418 Жыл бұрын
Most of them were fired by the government - without reference to what they were managing as I understand it? The whole place was a bankrupt mess, and a revolution rarely provides much continuity of management...
@AllExistence Жыл бұрын
Remember guys, if energy appears from nowhere, it's most certainly paid for by your lifespan.
@YouTubeSupportSucks Жыл бұрын
Great way to phrase it!
@femmefuntime Жыл бұрын
The law of equivalent exchange
@BabyMakR Жыл бұрын
The sun? Wind? Waves?
@AllExistence Жыл бұрын
@@BabyMakR It isn't nowhere.
@BabyMakR Жыл бұрын
@@AllExistence Neither is the energy from an RTG.
@faurovidiu Жыл бұрын
RTGs are commonly used for space applications, Elina. Some US Mars rovers have them as power and heat source, since they can be used as TEGs when patching them with peltier elements or connecting a Stirling engine in a closed loop
@theAessaya Жыл бұрын
Yup. Both Voyager probes and the New Horizons are powered by RTGs. Basically anything that goes beyond Jupiter orbit needs one, as there's just not enough solar power there.
@faurovidiu Жыл бұрын
@@theAessaya oh that I didn’t know, I thought they’re powered by fission reactors
@Firebuck Жыл бұрын
@@theAessaya The most recent Mars rovers also use RTGs. That include the current one, Perseverance.
@theAessaya Жыл бұрын
@@faurovidiu RTGs _are_ a subtype of nuclear fission power sources, but they're not _quite_ reactors, as they're nowhere near being at critical mass. The main reason reactors aren't used is because they are very bulky, and have lots of moving parts. Plus, 470W (275W in case of New Horizons) of power is enough for a probe that's smaller than your regular car.
@theAessaya Жыл бұрын
@@Firebuck yes, many were, including just lander probes. Percy is powered by RTG, but Oppy and Spirit were solar-powered, however.
@szeredaiakos Жыл бұрын
Girl, you seriously underestimate the sheer amount of fucks the USSR didn't have to give.
@coodudeman5 ай бұрын
or at least chose not to... and you just can't fix stupid! lol
@israeltovar3513 Жыл бұрын
You forget how things were in the former USSR. The physics and engineers who knew about them were jobless, the records were probably fragmented, heavily censored, and in many ways, classified. It was unlikely that anyone knew all about them, as how the Soviet information management standards were maintained. After the fall and for like a decade, Russia was lawless, ran by gangs and oligarchs, who were only concerned with getting as rich as possible. The huge TB epidemic, the rampant alcoholism, crime, the cold weather and the power cuts, emigration... Russia lost a lot of population, the biggest lost since WW2. There were fears of losing whole nuclear warheads, given the deplorable state of control and recording. The transfer from Ukraine and Kazakhstan were almost miracles. Some of these situations have never been properly dealt with. One of the largest is maybe the whole Russian Artic fleet homeport, where they have even whole nuclear submarine hulls rotting and rusting in seawater, and God knows what else the Soviet government buried, left, or just dumped into the bay...
@deansheets Жыл бұрын
Kyle hill sent me here to help flood the video with positivity 😊
@kakarikiIck Жыл бұрын
Elina! Hope your well and thank you for making these videos. They debunk nuclear energy for people who are not in the know about the great benefits from using nuclear power plants.
@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist Жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it 👩🏽🔬☢️
@scottmclaughlin1410 Жыл бұрын
Kyle's video on the first meltdown in the USA really was shocking to me. The fact that this happened after the fall of the USSR made it less surprising because I have seen a lot of videos lately about how hard those times were
@danilooliveira6580 Жыл бұрын
though the video about tree miles island was also meant to debunk a lot of myths about the incident. it was showing how a properly managed meltdown is supposed to be handled. it was so uneventful that the second reactor in the island is still running to this day. what that video also shown is that the media is ready to panic about everything nuclear related before they even get proper information from trustworthy sources.
@Voc_spooksauce Жыл бұрын
And how irresponsible people were
@kenibnanak5554 Жыл бұрын
@@Voc_spooksauce In the USSR many workers weren't told what they were building, carrying or guarding. There was no perceived need. If the workers died, they would be replaced by someone else. Such was the way. What the people don't know won't hurt the leaders. Russia still works that way.
@themeez1000 Жыл бұрын
Kyle's videos are so so so good
@informationcollectionpost3257 Жыл бұрын
In the USA many of these orphaned sources were from old X-Ray machines. They never collected the radioactive material from the machines. Many hospitals shut down and the material was left in canisters and closets within the abandoned hospitals. My older sister & I actually witnessed such a canister within one facility in the early 1990's when the owner of the abandoned hospital allowed us to briefly view it. It was marked with a radioactive warning label but the closet was unshielded and had no warning symbols. ( unbelievable) We were not allowed in that part of the building for long. The government wanted and wants to collect these cylinders after 9-11 because they are afraid that the material would be turned into a dirty bomb. ( otherwise the materials would still be locked away in old hospital closets) No such information was publically issued but the owners of such properties who are aware of such materials should have been notified. The government will send someone out to collect the containers. ( it took them a long time to do so ) It is what I have been posting on your channel, not all governments and companies treat nuclear material responsibly. This what makes nuclear energy dangerous, irresponsible people is the biggest danger in nuclear power, not the technology. It is also why Americans find the Simpson's so funny.
@radeksvoboda Жыл бұрын
X-ray machines do not contain radioactive material. They use X-ray tubes instead.
@redox4088 Жыл бұрын
@@radeksvoboda Yap, I think he means Cobalt-60 machines used for cancer treatment. And many sensors and meters are also mildly radioactive. All lost radioactive sources are not as harmful as RTG's but rather milder sources of radiation and thus cared for with less importance. Not to mention the US has admitted to loosing 6 nuclear warheads so the actual number is likely much much higher.
@Psi105 Жыл бұрын
The Proper People on KZbin came across some medical device with radioactive signs sitting in an abandoned hospital they were exploring. We don't know if the source was still inside the machine or not. Thankfully it was a very fast decaying element, according to the manual for the machine, with a half-life in days. So even if it was still there most of it had decayed into something stable in the many years since the hospital closed
@llwellyncuhfwarthen Жыл бұрын
Let me clarify a few things.. remember the term was ORPHAN SOURCES.. now a lot of developed countries use radioactive material for things like the fire sensor/alarm in your house is radioactive. If you have a broken fire alarm/sensor.. most people just throw them in the garbage.. THAT is now an orphan source.. (and yes some one even tried doing their own build of a home made nuclear device using collected radioactive sources from fire sensor systems at their local dumps). Orphan Source becomes a correct, but misleading term. You need to look up what the IAEA defines as an 'orphan source' to see that it covers a lot of things, that are really safe unless collected into large sums.
@jassenjj Жыл бұрын
Orphaned sources could be a problem in a very surprising places like in the middle of a city. In Bulgaria, in the town of Buhovo, which is a few kilometers away from the capital a radioactive rod was found on a kids playground which was estimated to have spent there more than 40 years before being discovered by accident.
@Jablicek Жыл бұрын
We've areas in London cordoned off for this reason too.
@dozaarchives2225 Жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised a nuclear physicist hasn't heard of an RTG. They have been in use for awhile now. Even on the Mars rovers.
@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment, I am aware for the space use but it was a surprise to know they’re extensive use here on earth.☢️👩🏽🔬
@Zarcondeegrissom Жыл бұрын
@@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist if left alone and kept away from people, it's not that bad (looks in the direction of the Voyager craft and New Horizons). it's when people that don't know better start taking wire, and metal off the RTGs to bring to the scrap yard that things get iffy. same goes for medical equipment that gets left abandoned due to whatever shenanigans (plainly difficult has a playlist of them, "Sources in the wild").
@petermargie Жыл бұрын
Was coming back from a trip and was waiting for my bags at the Philadelphia International Airport when a noticed a pile of boxes in the corner. Appeared it was some sort of cargo that hadn’t been pick up yet. It was addressed to the hospital where I worked. It had radiation warning signs on the boxes. I assumed it was some low level medical grade pharmaceutical type substance but who knows. .....All I could think was someone could casually swipe the boxes and do something dirty with the material.......whatever it was.....😳
@maulerrw Жыл бұрын
For react content if you're new to this I think it's important to give some insight based on your specific knowledge so it brings additional material to the video and adds value, making it your own. Otherwise without that its really just watching a person watching the video which does not add extra value. If you find videos where your background and knowledge allows you to chose key points in it to address and expand on them and give deeper meaning then that is an ideal opportunity for a review video. And I think specialised knowledge like yours could be very interesting in such cases
@clambino7980 Жыл бұрын
How have you not heard of RTGs?
@채월Sky Жыл бұрын
Like this: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@robertmonroe9728 Жыл бұрын
Also surprised. I immediately understood it is rtg, ruzzian РИТЭГ, has Sr90
@laurdy Жыл бұрын
4:20 The heaters could never become critical as the isotope used (Sr90) is not fissile
@danuttall Жыл бұрын
A positive thing about the subsequent search in Georgia is that those 300 orphan sources were found and steps could be taken to inform people about the risks and then steps could be taken to remove and, as much as possible, safely dispose of those sources.
@flyfaen1 Жыл бұрын
Well, after having spoken with people that grew up in the CCCP and experienced the collapse, the reason such things were lost/forgotten about, is that people was so fed up that when the CCCP collapsed, people just stopped and dropped whatever they were doing and went home. EDIT: Have watched (all, I think) Kyles half-life series, and they are awesome. Quality content for sure :D
@Chris-hx3om Жыл бұрын
Same. That series, for me, is THE very best. Concise, informative, and non-accusational.
@andreyturkin Жыл бұрын
Well, there not fed up per se; more like suddenly a lot of low level government (or army) positions stopped getting paid - at all - and they needed to keep feeding their families, so they quit their jobs and moved to whatever paying job they could find. Add to that rise in number of "junk" collectors who were looking to loot abandoned (or "abandoned" as in not guarded) metal scrap and such, and this is the end result. Collapse of the USSR wasn't a simple "switch" from single country and government style to a bunch of smaller countries with different government style; oh no, it was a huge humanitarian disaster and this incident is one small tragedy of many that were caused by it. I'm puzzled Elina reacted this way to it ("they just left them?!!") as there likely weren't many, if any, of "them" left to care about the RTGs.
@renscience Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They had more pressing problems, like eating. Americans and Westerners in general cannot comprehend this kind of mindset and emergency, except the homeless.
@BertNielson Жыл бұрын
If you haven't also seen them, Plainly Difficult (aka John), covers a lot of the radiological accidents. I've learned so much from his episodes.
@joewiddup9753 Жыл бұрын
He does such a good job!
@KarinaMilne Жыл бұрын
Love John and Kyle
@MichalKolac Жыл бұрын
I agree it is sada that noone did a reaction vid to his videos
@Grak70 Жыл бұрын
I like how the best answer to every shocked question you ask throughout this is “it was the Soviet Union”.
@WJS7744 ай бұрын
Yep. The US also did all kinds of stupid, dangerous, or just plain wrong stuff with nuclear materials during the cold war, but basically any category you care to name, "Soviet Union was worse".
@aeryncowell3046 Жыл бұрын
To say these items weren't even on the radar of Duma during the COLLAPSE of the entire nation is an understatement. You need to quit the 20/20 attitude imho. Was it bad sure but the chaos that was going on especially in the satellite states can't be understated.
@TomcatChriss Жыл бұрын
I have only one word for this: unbelievable... Love your content :)
@tadhggoreyoneill13666 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if I see a metal cylinder in the snowy weather and there's no snow around the damn thing I'm backing TF out of there real quick
@jeriwollmann7366 Жыл бұрын
2 other accidents worth reviewing are David Hahn. Built nuclear reactor in back yard and 3 mile island. Great Channel. Cheers
@BDWANNEMACHER Жыл бұрын
Here from Kyle's channel and I felt myself age when you said 2003 that was like 20 years ago
@brianward7550 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you come upon a metal cylinder in the forest which is too hot2touch for no apparent reason, so you decide to strap it to your back?
@philshorten3221 Жыл бұрын
I was so glad you finally covered this. I did put it in the comments but to be honest I assumed you knew all about Orphan Sources and maybe it was something already "done to death". There's another similar accident in South America called the Goiania Incident.
@kylehill Жыл бұрын
Have a video on that too
@MichalKolac Жыл бұрын
There were many more plainly difficult had made a lot of videos about orphan sources
@lxndrlbr Жыл бұрын
@@kylehill your exposé on that incident was both very deeply documented and very concerning, and it does make an argument that long-term use of nuclear power MUST NOT TOLERATE ANY LAISSEZ-FAIRE ON SAFETY Yet in France (my country), the government wants to divest from the IRSN (Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire, Radioprotection and Nuclear Safety research Institute) who are the technological and scientific experts and only keep the ASN (Autorité de Sûreté Nucléaire, Nuclear Safety Authority) who are mostly administrators and lawyers, and that concerns me.
@boRegah Жыл бұрын
I was just about to take a walk in one of the beautiful Siberian forests... Holy macaroni
@vesawuoristo4162 Жыл бұрын
The people living in Georgia and rest of the Soviet Union were very tired and disillusioned about the future . Caring for even dangerous materials was ignored, especially when the system collapsed. Just look at all the submarines with nuclear reactors still rusting away abandoned.
@cho-yv6kk Жыл бұрын
T H E R M A L E L E C T R I C G E N E R A T O R { please STOP calling it a HEATER } it's Main purpose is Closer to Being a BATTERY than a Heater
@PainCreator Жыл бұрын
There is a youtuber from UK that covers all kinds of mishaps: Plainly Difficult. He has whole nuclear stuff playlist.
@elvinhaak Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've seen a lot of is video's too.
@dr4d1s Жыл бұрын
He does good work for sure.
@grumpyboomer61 Жыл бұрын
The largest problem with orphan sources comes from improperly decommissioned medical equipment. And, to be honest, I expected this to fall into that category. But, good grief.
@CMDRSweeper Жыл бұрын
Well this one is fairly mild compared to the Ciudad Juarez incident in 1984... That one is a lot worse.
@Oktokolo Жыл бұрын
I saw the soviet union dissolving in the news back then - i am not surpised that a lot of nucular stuff was just abandoned. Pretty likely, that these RTGs where actually stored behind locked doors and maybe even guarded. But the state buerocracy basically ceased to exist for some months and state-employed personel had to find other sources of income lest they and their families starve to death. So maybe, that RTGs got displaced by looters (maybe they even died from doing so). Normal people in rural areas also had no idea about the danger of radiation sources because they where never exposed to any information about them. When they find a convenient heat source, they are happy to use it.
@Alexx120493 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with orphaned sources after the collapse of the Soviet Union was the lack of accountability. Those who knew that those sources were there (mostly Soviet officials) didn't care anymore and those who cared (the new Georgian officials) never knew. This was not only a problem with radiological sources but also tons of other things like all kinds of weaponry, art and other valuables from collections and museums and effevtively large portions of the soviet republics economy and infrastructure that were snatched up by what is now known as Oligarchs in often less than legal and certainly immoral ways.
@Candilion_626 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love you and your videos so much!
@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!☢️👩🏽🔬
@minacapella8319 Жыл бұрын
Your reactions near the end are especially perfect. Its exactly how I felt hearing those numbers.
@Biggerbadwolf Жыл бұрын
1950-60, quite believable and maybe understandable, 2000+, that is insane!!!
@bhartley1024 Жыл бұрын
2:04 You think it was just the nutty soviets? Americans put tiny versions of these things in freakin' pacemakers
@remembertostayhydrated Жыл бұрын
A radioactive geological marker was lost in a sand quarry. Subsequently, it became a part of a concrete wall in an apartment building. Subsequently, one family died of "some illness", another family lost several members to "some illness". Eventually the building was evacuated and dismantled. Yep, it was in soviet union, yep, my relative (aunt's husband) worked in that quarry, yep, everybody knew about the marker being lost, yep, nobody cared (as long as nobody would be held responsible, which nobody was)
@5tarSailor Жыл бұрын
Wake up sees Elina uploaded Day improves significantly
@petermuller6658 Жыл бұрын
First of all, I'm super happy that I discovered your channel, I'm currently binging it and the following question might be irrelevant if you've already covered such a topic, but I'll ask anyway. I'm not sure if it's too far off the main theme of your channel, but I would find it really interesting to compare like actual, concrete figures on the costs, efficiency and most importantly the Co2 Emissions of nuclear energy in comparison to renewable energy sources like solar and wind energy. Because considering the fact that renewable energy obviously also has to be "collected" somehow and those collectors, be it wind turbines or solar panels also have to be produced, often requiring quite an energy intensive process, complex logistics and supply chains and much more, all resulting in still pretty substantial costs and Co2 emissions along the way, until the renewable energy can be collected/transformed into electricity and such for a while until they require repairs, spare parts or have to be replaced and recycled completely. Not to speak about the environmental impact of plastering wide areas with solar panels or wind parks. This of course is also the case for nuclear energy, even on a much larger scale, but considering the enormous and pretty steady output of a NPP I would really like to know how much of a difference there is in respect to all these tangible and intangible costs and if renewable energy is really that much environmentally friendly compared to nuclear energy when adding up all the indirect costs that often get overlooked. I know that this would be quite a complex thing to break down and evaluate, but looking at your videos and qualifications I would consider you to be the right choice and Im sure many of your viewers would be interested in it too! All the best from Germany, slava Ukraini!
@michaelogden5958 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that one of the things "The Martian" came across and/or used?
@pedroelton7040 Жыл бұрын
16:56 Elina, you should have a look at this Goiânia Accident and react to it. it was massive, the largest in Brazil, maybe in the whole South America.
@FalcoGer Жыл бұрын
RTGs are not meant to be heaters. They use the heat of radioactive elements to power a thermoelectric generator, for example using the peltier effect but instead of creating a cold and hot surface by applying a voltage, you just attach a hot and a cold object (a heat sink and the radioactive element) to create a voltage. RTGs are used for remote systems that require reliable power but not very much of it. For example some space probes like voyager use them because solar power is unavailable that far out in space. Also one of the rovers on mars uses an RTG. They're very reliable because they don't require moving parts. They usually use plutonium.
@kanwalpreeetsingh Жыл бұрын
You cannot miss Kyle's Half Life series on KZbin. You will sitting like this 😮 throughtout the video.
@richard7crowley7 ай бұрын
That incident at Lia, Georgia seems minor compared to what the Soviets did in Semipalatinsk in north-eastern Kazakhstan. The Soviet Union conducted 456 nuclear tests at Semipalatinsk from 1949 until 1989 with little regard for their effect on the local people or environment. The full impact of radiation exposure was hidden for many years by Soviet authorities and has only come to light since the test site closed in 1991. According to estimates from Kazakh experts, 1.5 million people were exposed to fallout over the years. Continuing generations of citizens are still suffering the effects of radiation-caused mortality and morbidity. The Soviets have a very poor reputation of handling both military and civilian "orphan sources".
@winzigmann2137 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of topic of relatively unknown nuclear accident, I've got recommendation of video "The most radioactive man in history" or something like that made by Peaked Interest. This is the video I know and it reminded me of this and I think this should be also the video to react.
@JV-un7qw Жыл бұрын
It was USSR, lady! Now we, ukrainians, have to fight to death to not to get back into that stupidity...
@TheOldBlackCrow Жыл бұрын
That's so messed up. Never even heard of this. So glad you're on this!
@Totallynoteatingyourfood Жыл бұрын
Kyle,I watched your video before subscribing to Elinas channel and I am Preety sure she wasn’t bad intentioned when analyzing and reacting to your video,she is a physicist and for us the viewers is good to see and hear a different perspective from someone else as well!!Elinas channel,yours and radioactive Drew are the most go to channels for me when it comes to info about the mighty ATOM!
@ashleycook3009 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insightful reactions! Seeing your outrage at the irresponsibility being portrayed in these videos convinced me to subscribe.I agree that nuclear can be beneficial, but only if we handle it with the utmost care and respect it deserves.
@bestimmtkeinbot9793 Жыл бұрын
Those men when they first saw those RTBs: "A gift from heaven" The men once they got hospitalised: "The devils work".
@CanusDirusx Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the problem. When you have a well funded, well regulated society it might be okay but societies decline and fall apart. Checks and balances can disappear overnight. It eventually happens to every society.
@ingframin Жыл бұрын
It would be very nice to have a joint video with you and Kyle Hill!
@kylehill Жыл бұрын
I'd be down
@pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 Жыл бұрын
@@kylehill 😏 Ok im sorry
@davidhenry5128 Жыл бұрын
"I'd be down" means what? Interested, or not?
@dr4d1s Жыл бұрын
@@davidhenry5128 It means he would like to do a collaboration with her. Q: "Hey man, do you want to make a video with me about Nuclear Physics?", A: "Sure, I would be down for that."
@paulthing Жыл бұрын
wow, so crazy. I did read about some medical equipment sources being lost and found the hard way, like in this case. thank you for sharing.
@sverrg2 ай бұрын
I love closed captions sometimes, I use them instead of headphones late at night, this time it told me you measured radiation with a tiger, now that I would like to see :D
@hotduelist Жыл бұрын
Kyle has a lot of these videos about nuclear incidents if you're wanting more videos to review
@jasonlib1996 Жыл бұрын
RTG's are incredible and very useful inventions. Whilst the USSR did love a bit of nuclear energy, they put these things everywhere. They're great sources of power for incredibly remote regions where the logistics of constantly supplying them with power lines or fueling diesel generators is impractical. When you over look the fact they literally a block of Plutonium. They're most commonly used in space, because the safety issues of radiation and access to nuclear material kinda doesn't exist out there. RTG's power the Mars rovers and various satellites, particularly deep space ones that receive little solar energy like the Voyager probes. are powered by RTG's
@captainz9 Жыл бұрын
"only in the Soviet Union"... Actually, no, I'm pretty sure RTGs are used to power the Voyager probes, and possibly others... But being space probes it obviously doesn't have the human risk once it's out of Earth orbit, probably the launch was the biggest risk. I remember reading a story about two guys in Mexico (iirc) that disassembled an abandoned Cobalt radiation machine (medical) with similar outcomes.
@TheDenOfTimbsStudios Жыл бұрын
I glad others are enjoying the experience he is giving us for free! Much love to you!
@christianheichel Жыл бұрын
The men working on the recovery of those radiological devices had to have hearts of lions. Especially knowing what they were dealing with. I hope they got medals because of the bravery they displayed.
@milos_radovanovic Жыл бұрын
You sould react to some "Planly difficult" channel content ! He did this one too, as well as meny other radiological accedents including meany orphan sources and reactor meltdowns. My favorite so far was abaut Vinca unshealded reactor!😂
@martindesrocher4528 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR ACCENT ! AND NOT ONLY INTELLIGENT , ALSO VERY BEAUTIFUL. THAT'S WHAT I CALL A TRIPLE THREAT !!
@falconfira Жыл бұрын
RTG, reminds me of the radiotrophic fungi found around Chernobyl. Which I would love to hear you do a video about!
@guidmarques Жыл бұрын
Hey Elina! Can you make a reacts like that about the The Goiania Accident? it's a similar acidente that happens in Brazil in 1987!
@ThatJay283 Жыл бұрын
at school (a couple years ago) we did a class about radioactivity. TDS was definitely used. the source was definitely pretty radioactive (idk what the mSv/hr was but the geiger counter went pretty crazy), but had a very short half-life (of a couple minutes), and we all stood pretty far back and were told to keep any close exposure minimal.
@sairus6055 Жыл бұрын
Actually after end of USSR many gowerment departments was closed, so sometimes important information just lost. RTGs just dumped without control and mental scrapers turn them a part. P.S. the are Karamatorsk nuclear disaster nasty story.... 300 is probably mostly smoke detectors.
@KarinaMilne Жыл бұрын
This
@FranckLarsen Жыл бұрын
From someone who watched both videos, THANK YOU to you and Kyle, for making us all viser on this important topic. No doubt though, that fission power is the future. Fusion has at this point, more or less prooven itself useless.
@granttaylor3697 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to get more information on RTGs and the current level of improvements in this area of technology?
@newcastleman86 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're watching Kyle Hill. He is a good one in the sciences community. Love your videos. Thanks!
@Rorschach1024 Жыл бұрын
A gamma camera used to radiograph pipe welds was stolen out of the back of a truck here in Houston just last week while the crew were in a restaurant eating lunch. Still haven't heard whether it was ever found.
@clausqp Жыл бұрын
OMG! 300 orphant sources of radiation! That's just mindbogeling....
@autohmae Жыл бұрын
7:49 I think you very much underestimate what a societal collapse looks like, what is strange is how they didn't put warnings on these containers.
@ben-jam-in6941 Жыл бұрын
Great video. It’s a crazy story and also a tragedy. I think you might have misunderstood that these things were originally electricity generators for these very rural construction projects. Anyway keep up the great work of teaching people that nuclear energy is safe if you respect it.
@cmm30 Жыл бұрын
This was such a crazy video that I just watched it for the second time.
@MikinessAnalog Жыл бұрын
My question is if weight is not a concern, is this still a viable source of power if enough shielding is provided leaving only the infrared heat leaking. I know about thermoelectric devices providing power with temperature difference. They provide much current but little voltage.
@paulh1493 Жыл бұрын
Because you are open mind and knowledgeable on the subject, can you look into "Broken Arrows" misplaced, unaccounted for, or unrecoverable warheads?
@Equiluxe1 Жыл бұрын
When I left school in the early 1970's I started work as an apprentice horologist, the man I worked for kept a pot of radium paint in his desk draw as although it's use was officially stopped many doctors liked to have radium on the dials of their watches. I often wonder how much radiation he received or me for that matter as my worh bench was only a meter or less away from that drawer on my right and in 2009 I was diagnosed with kidney cancer the right kidney.
@mekosmowski Жыл бұрын
Also check out Plainly Difficult. He's branching out to general industry disasters now, but started out doing radiological.
@saintuk70 Жыл бұрын
Did you know......Strontium is named after a village, tiny village, on the west coast of Scotland called Strontian.
@Boodieman72 Жыл бұрын
Elina, you have to remember the politics at the time when the Soviet Union fell.
@WayneCAlderman Жыл бұрын
Elina is the best teacher cause they wouldn't teach any of this in schools like they should
@iansrven3023 Жыл бұрын
looking forward to your follow up on this one :)
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын
In this case: *RTG* = *Russian Toxic Gizmo*
@Alexelectricalengineering Жыл бұрын
Hi Elina, nice reaction video, you should also make a video about the slightly radioactive objects that the sell on eBay called "negative ion" (necklaces, bracelets, etc.) they contain thorium dioxide. Not totally related, but fun fact, there is a small amount of thorium in almost any household, it is completely safely contain in the filament of the magnetron that is the heart of any microwave oven (the filament consists of 97 to 99% tungsten (not radioactive) and 1 to 3% of thorium). The small amount in the magnetron is completely harmless, however those eBay objects are dangerous because people don't know what they buy and the risk, etc. Greetings Alex
@listerdave1240 Жыл бұрын
There's also quite a lot of radioactivity from things like granite counter tops and even ceramic ware like wash hand basins and toilets. A year or two ago I got a gamma spectrometer and found that inside my house the radiation level is everywhere on the first floor more than double the background radiation outside, mostly apparently coming from the ceramic tiles and in the bathroom it doubles again. The isotopes appear to be mostly thorium and radium and a little potassium.
@Alexelectricalengineering Жыл бұрын
@@listerdave1240 Interesting facts
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
Welder's goggles and mask glass are coated with thorium, and the little sock that shines bright in a gas lamp is coated with it.
@Alexelectricalengineering Жыл бұрын
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Not sure for the welding glass, I know some TIG tungsten electrodes have thorium in them, and about the lamp socks they just to have it but I think not more then new ones
@raycardy4843 Жыл бұрын
I believe that thorium is no longer used in gas mantles ( for example, in camping lamps), Coleman now use Yttrium in their mantles, although it is a bit more expensive, it is not radioactive?
@Voc_spooksauce Жыл бұрын
Ay good choice i love this video, it's also a great example of how the government and companies would rather hide their mistakes and let innocent people suffer from them than to even say something, specially when it's such a dangerous mistake, only because they probally would rather let people die than allow their mistakes be brought to light.
@frostiedk1 Жыл бұрын
In sovet union, they also used plutonium in smoke detektors. Where have they dumped them? Normal garbage?
@robertmonroe9728 Жыл бұрын
Do not be surprised. It was Soviet union, now ruzzia - both are crazy
@jkmil4981 Жыл бұрын
Of the average of one orphan source abday in the US, they do include medical devices. I live about 2 miles (4km) from a public park that has had a large section, 265 acres, closed off because of high radiation readings in over 200 discrete locations within the area. The major component of the contamination is Radium-226, which is believed to have been discarded in medical equipment used, along with other solid materials, as landfill to create the park in the 1940s. The contamination wasn't discovered until 2005 during an airborne radiological survey of New York and it remains isolated in place to this day. The Army Corp of Engineers has done surveys but hasn't finalized any plans, but they are monitoring the air and there is no immediate danger past the quarantined area.
@WolfyRagnarok Жыл бұрын
Hello! At 4:17 in the video you mention a concern about water possibly making the source go critical. Could you expound upon that, please?
@BenjaminLupton Жыл бұрын
See her other videos
@WolfyRagnarok Жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminLupton She has 40 videos. Would you be so kind as to point out which one relates directly to my question?
@swrekcfestАй бұрын
wow , mystery heat source ! Lets use it to keep warm .. It´s like the guard that slept under the UV light because it was warmer
@kevinnaber790 Жыл бұрын
It is important to note that even smoke detectors utilize radioactive elements, so a renovation of a home or industrial building could result in multiple orphan sources due to improper disposal of items like smoke detectors, old luminous dials, and thermostats. Just like mercury, lead, and asbestos- radioactive materials are found in more items than most people are aware of.