Nukit Tempest Review - Silent DIY Air Purifier

[@Nutrafin-3D]

Hear me out gamers, what if instead of clear Windows on our cases, we just throw on furnace filters.

[@HouseFresh]

This sounds like an awesome idea for somone like @LinusTechTips, I could see a product like this doing very well with gamers around the world!

[@dreamleaf6784]

There are reasons. But d you think it is a good idea. Why not try and out and show us the results

[@austinsmiht]

This channel deserves a lot more subs - great quality content, with loads of good info, keep it up!

[@HouseFresh]

Too kind. I am super happy to see so many people have subbed already.

[@morrisg5060]

I built my own air purifier using radon mitigation inline fan due to the high suction power(hydrostatic pressure) of the unit . The fan by itself it 70 db. I built the box with emphasis on sound level mitigation. I got it down to 55 db full blast but the box is bigger than I could live with. I dismantled it after a year and a half to rebuild it smaller and even quieter. 50 db woulb be a good target same airflow.

[@HouseFresh]

Sounds an interesting project, 55dB is basially most HEPA retail devices so a good number. If you don't mind taking pics of it it would be great to see what it looks like: [e-mail]

[@morrisg5060]

@@HouseFresh It was already dismantled but the fan unit was festa hawk radon fan. A bit pricier than I would like but the suction was great.

[@sleepyq5745]

Hello! I just really wanted to say thank you for your dedication and commitment to creating these videos... ! They're really educational and needed in a space that should be relatively simple, is so convoluted and difficult to navigate... I love your studio with all of the air purifiers! The little air purifying units on display in the background especially caught my eye, as I've been personally interested in those really compact & travel-friendly units for the past couple months and invested a lot of time to research, and also a decent sum of money into them. I started off with the LG Puricare Mini, but I thought I could do better going the DIY route on sound and performance with Noctua. Maybe I succeeded, but I can't be sure as I don't have anything to measure with besides the particulate sensor on the little LG unit. And I don't really think these compact units can do very well as I think I read that filter surface area, as well as the overall size of the unit so that there's some distance between it and the fan, really matters. This is where you have really shed a lot of light on the topic!! Can't wait for your full review on the AirFanta 4Lite! I'm really sensitive to sound in the bedroom, so I do end up turning my air purifiers down until they are barely audible. My larger unit is a Dyson Pure Cool Me, but I only have it at 2/10 usually, and I'm pretty sure that is not keeping up with pollutants that constantly reintroduced. I would also really like to hear your research and thoughts about air projection as well, seeing as you have the Dyson machines yourself! I feel like Dyson may be a leader in this category and specifically designed their POLAR test to do well here, but I'm not really sure... maybe the air projection only helps the air quality levels reach equilibrium more quickly, but doesn't have the CADR to effectively clean the room to a healthier level. I can't believe you still paid for Nukit Kit and everything with your own funds even though you were offered for free...! Most creators would just take it?! And I think I can really feel how much you believe in what you're doing!! Thanks to you I discovered this DIY kit and after weighing all the options (again, thanks to your videos), I have bought two! I also like the aesthetics, modularity, and potential to use standard HVAC filters... I plan to try using Noctua IPPC fans with controllers to control the fan speed. No idea how it would compare with the recommended Arctic, but maybe I will try building the 2nd to see! Unfortunately I am not sure if manufacturers will necessarily need to or be inclined to follow suit in the next years, or if this will ever catch on given air quality and stuff invisible and the upkeep on filters and electricity and I guess just having to tolerate the noise too... But with your videos and more and more people spreading the word we can all make better more informed decisions for ourselves!! Sorry for the super long comment! I just ended up binge-watching your videos for the past 10 hours... xD Thank you for all of your hard work on these resources! I wish there was some way to support you more!! Cheers!

[@HouseFresh]

Thank you for your awesome comment! The longer, the better, in my view :) I think you are right about the small devices, as the size and fan power just can't compare with larger devices. One of the reasons I try to push people to go bigger if they can - but I also totally understand that this can't work for everyone. To date, the Airfanta 3 pro has been the most impressive for performance to portable ratio, and it also breaks down easily for putting in a backpack/luggage. As you know, we have a few Dyson devices. It's true that performance at lower speeds isn't that great, especially when compared to the PC fan kits. However, the Dyson devices are unique in that they offer fan functionality and do look good! I have been impressed at the performance increases with different generations, so I am hoping Dyson continues to invest and improve with each new model. One of our plans for the site/channel is to give people more opportunities to support us and also get unique benefits. We still have to implement this, but we hope to have something ready by the end of the year! Sorry for the delay in responding to your comment. I am on a family vacation this week and next. However, know that your comment made my day, and I hope you stick around for more videos in the future. Thanks again:)

[@TJohnsonLLC]

Excellent jump into the comparison of DIY units with commercial products. Particularly to normalize performance at a given noise level. Can you please estimate the CADR values and power consumption at those settings, then calculate the price/performance ratios? It should quickly become clear that the PC fan class of units will dominate all comparisons. Thanks again for your service.

[@HouseFresh]

Thanks, we are working on this and will put these details in the accompanying blog post for this review. Great suggestion!

[@Holy_Hobo]

Would love to see this compared to other DIY options like the design made by the 3dhandyman, smartair's diy option, and others. Additionally how would this compare to a DIY terrabloom/ac infinity purifier which is a much higher upfront cost and much more intensive setting up? Or energy efficient purifiers like the Blueair MAX series?

[@qewfsdsd65445]

If they don't have prefilters the running costs will be far higher than the 5500-2.

[@HouseFresh]

@@qewfsdsd65445 it has a wire mesh’s at the front sorry I wasn’t clear about it in the video. Not as good as removal pre filter so could be something to ask for in future iterations.

[@HouseFresh]

Will include more device comparisons in the written review. Will let you know when it’s live. I do plan to test other diy pc fan solutions. Do you know a good place to read more about the terrabloom/ac infinity?

[@Holy_Hobo]

@@HouseFresh air purifiers and air quality subreddits have a few good threads on it; I haven't delved too deep on the topic but I'm sure there's some forums out there as well, you just have to get the right parts and connect them together. For the most part it's really just finding the best orientation, location and cheap suppliers

[@HouseFresh]

@@Holy_Hobo thanks I’ll check them out 👍

[@ajtlim]

looks like a computer rig repurposed

[@HouseFresh]

For sure, I think the original design must have been inspired by a PC case design.

[@DanhNguyen-rl5cn]

Do you guys plan to post a review of this on your website? It'll be nice to compare it to the other air purifiers you guys review on your website. Also, do you know if this product comes in white or plan to be? I don't see it on their website.

[@HouseFresh]

Yes do plan to post a text review on the website and will be working on this next week. Don’t know think they have an option for white but could be something to request for future as seems a good idea. Will update you here when the review is live. Thanks for commenting 😊

[@HouseFresh]

Hey finally got the review live: housefresh.com/nukit-tempest-review/ sorry for the delay!

[@thirdnormalform]

Is there anything wrong with using merv 14 1 inch filtrete filters? These are so much smaller. I'm wondering what the drawbacks would be to justify a much larger filter.

[@HouseFresh]

I believe that the filtrate filters from 3M don’t fit the size of the Nukit tempest but if not it would be a great option.

[@thirdnormalform]

@HouseFresh I am hoping a 1 inch variant is devised (if) this thinner filter is just as capable.

[@HouseFresh]

I did test with 1 inch filters that I had and performance was similar to the filterbuy 2 inch filters. I have some 2 inch filters from a better filter brand that I am hoping to see will have improved performance over the filterbuy brand ,

[@HouseFresh]

the only downside with the 1 inch is that it doesn't look at finished as there is a gap between the filter and the case.

[@Mojo_DK]

How does this compare to the clean air kit when it comes to performance, noise, cost and energy consumption?

[@HouseFresh]

Got a review coming out soon that compares. But in short the Luggable XL is quieter, better performance but uses more energy.

[@Mojo_DK]

@@HouseFresh Hm okay then the Luggable XL sounds better to me. I would assume that the energy consumption is still amazing, even if it is a lil worse. I am a little disappointed tho, because the Tempest looks a lot nicer and I was hoping that it is also the better product in general.

[@Mojo_DK]

@@HouseFresh Does the Luggable use different fans? If so it would be interesting to know how the Tempest performs with the cooler master fans of the Luggable XL7

[@Mojo_DK]

@@HouseFresh Or does the 3M filter from the Luggable make a difference?

[@Mojo_DK]

@@HouseFresh On the website of clean air kit they also compare the arctics with the cooler master ones. The one from cooler master seem to be better in general.

[@Mojo_DK]

I think you should try SickleFlow Fans and a 3M Filter

[@HouseFresh]

I did look but I think the 3m sizes won't fit but will double check. Will test a range of fans including Sickleflow.

[@Mojo_DK]

@@HouseFresh Oh damn. From what I have heard 3M filters are the best. If they don't fit I don't know what to choose instead

[@NeptuneSega]

You can also use a computer case. All these modern cases have a tom of airflow

[@HouseFresh]

Interesting, I assumed it would be tricky to add the filters but would be super interested in seeing projects that use existing PC cases that you can convert into a device like this.

[@Alexdiaz727]

I'm curious if you could make something thinner by mounting the fans in sandwich fashion with the 2 filters on one side 20x40. Does the thickness help with function? In a pc case you need the space inside for computer components. I'm thinking like a canvas gallery wrap 2 or 3 inch thick frame. 2 in x 20 in x 40 in. Wall mounted with a thin art tapestry acting almost as a prefilter. This would solve the biggest issue of these DiY purifiers which is in my opinion aesthetics. Would love to see some testing on a design like I'm suggesting.

[@HouseFresh]

I'm not sure, but I assume there must be a benefit to having the filters on both sides. I agree that aesthetics are holding these new devices back, but I'm sure someone much cleverer than me will come up with a solution! Be sure to let me know if you come across any interesting designs and I can test them.

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

It has to eventually come with a PPM sensor that will auto shut off when the levels are low enough.

[@HouseFresh]

I expect to see something like this at some point, but the benefit of these devices is that they can provide regular room air changes without excessive noise and low energy usage. This can be super useful for situations like Covid mitigation or reducing the risk of any airborne virus in a room.

[@Nerdzilla1954]

man do i love 3d printing. i found a similar design that i can just print out with variable fan speed controller and up to 6 fans. relatively cheap.

[@HouseFresh]

I know that the guys behind the Nukit Tempest release their designs for anyone to use: github.com/opennukit/Nukit-Open-Air-Purifier/ It mentions laser cutter but maybe they can also be used with 3d printing. Would love to see your device if you are open to sharing - [e-mail]

[@rudolfabelin383]

A quick Google points out that these filters are not common here in Europe (Sweden). Anyone?

[@HouseFresh]

Hey yes that is the case, they are hard to find in Europe in general. Nukit is working a Euro version but not sure when it will be out. twitter.com/NukitToBeSure/status/1795230361812902233

[@capcom4eva]

I wish they would make kits in 20 by 30 by 1. Any plans?

[@HouseFresh]

I am testing a different PC fan kit from Canada that uses a larger size so keep an eye out for that. I don't see any options to bring out different sized versions for the Nukit but will pass on this feedback.

[@capcom4eva]

@@HouseFreshThank you! I’d appreciate it. It reduces my cost, when the filters are sizes sold at Costco. Since 3M 1” filters are the best, just makes sense to save money & buy from Costco. Also, the larger the filter, less stress on the fan motors & increased air flow.

[@HouseFresh]

Hey have you seen this: www.reddit.com/r/AirQuality/s/EgwBEY9dCq

[@capcom4eva]

@@HouseFresh yes, but looking to reduce electricity costs. Pc fans use a fraction of that air king fan in electricity on low & much quieter. I pay a lot for peak usage in the summer time. Even if if it saves 50% at an acceptable CADR, it’s still a huge savings!

[@capcom4eva]

@@HouseFresh In addition to peak charges in the summer time between 8am-12am, there’s super peak charges between 2pm-6pm‼️😱😔🪦💸 Considering an air purifier is something many run 24/7, as some spend much, if not all, of their time at home & an air purifier only benefits you if you’re home & it’s running, if you have exceptionally poor indoor air quality. 😅

[@TomMorris1]

Looks like you can order 20X20X3 MERV13 Filtrete filters off Digikey UK

[@HouseFresh]

I think you need 20X20X2 for the Nukit Tempest. Will see if they also have that.

[@TomMorris1]

@@HouseFresh Ahasorry looks like I got it wrong, had another look and they are 20x20x1

[@HouseFresh]

@@TomMorris1 Don't worry about it. I just bought some new brand of filters I thought were 20X20X2 and then they arrived and they were all inch thick 🙄 I did test the Nukit with these 1 inch filters and it still worked pretty well so an option if you can't get any 2 inch thick but will likely need to replace more often and lucks a little uglier.

[@lofi-guy]

@@HouseFresh That is good to know, I was also wondering if the thickness of the filter would matter

[@capcom4eva]

Ventilo Angel link?

[@HouseFresh]

Sorry here it is: docs.google.com/file/d/1FIsgBB3ZlaoyXSUpYi-0NIP1qmaoYC5T/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msexcel

[@heyboots]

It would be quite a bit more expensive but I wonder how quiet one of these would be with a set of Noctua NF-F12 on it.

[@HouseFresh]

I priced it up and it would be a £170/$200upgrade! Do have plans to test and see what it does .

[@SageBlueMusic]

What makes that thing so expensive?? The filters?

[@HouseFresh]

They do share the designs if you want to make. Assume material and the fact it’s smaller scale makes it harder to offer the lowest prices .

[@user-ml8dm9fz6l]

Interestingly, the Smart Air SA600 does not meet California air cleaner regulation requirements

[@HouseFresh]

Its likely they haven't sent their device for approval. I know Adam Wong is currently going through the process to get his devices approved to be sold in California. As the Smart Air devices don't use any sort of ionizer so can't imagine that it's an issue with emissions. But will certainly ask them for more detail, thanks for making me aware.

[@MichaelT-ft3cz]

At 6:48 you referred to a thread that I think you forgot to drop in the description. Can you add that? Thank you so muchn

[@HouseFresh]

Sorry about that, its here: twitter.com/DavidElfstrom/status/1761087719004881078 Will also add to the description!

[@MichaelT-ft3cz]

@@HouseFresh thank you!

[@peopleschampiii584]

Anything like this that doesn't require assembly?

[@HouseFresh]

The Airfanta 3 pro uses pc fans and only requires putting the filters together no more than that.

[@peopleschampiii584]

​@HouseFresh it would be perfect if you didn't have to buy their odd sized filters from them only

[@HouseFresh]

@@peopleschampiii584 Yeah I would like to see an Airfanta device that uses HVAC filters - will propose to Adam to see if its something he would look at.

[@randyrodriguez4186]

Two companies, be quiet! and nocturnal have the quietest and best overall respectively

[@HouseFresh]

Thanks for sharing will look at getting these fans for the next video as want to do more testing to find the most effective combination of fan and filter.

[@ObakuZenCenter]

@@HouseFresh I think the other poster is referring to Noctua, who do make good fans and were at one point probably the best CPU/PC Case cooling fans around. They are however not necessarily the best nowadays, with lower cost fans from the likes of Montech and others being better and cheaper, depending on the context. Better than Noctua fans at the moment for the purposes of air purification (and PC cooling) are likely the Phanteks T30-120mm fans. You can get a three pack for around $85 in the US. These are high airflow, low noise fans that are thicker than many comparable fans, which means that the fan blades are also thicker, which helps with increased air flow at lower noise levels. The LIAN LI UNI Fan P28's are also good, a little more noise and not quite as good, but comparable in performance and cheaper, at about $50 US for a triple fan pack.

[@HouseFresh]

@@ObakuZenCenter this is great and my pc fan knowledge is definitely lacking so this is super useful. Will be sure to try Montech, Phantek and LIAN Li when we test different fans. Thank you 🙏

[@tommyshobalongdong]

James’s comparably priced to the clean air kits similar product

[@HouseFresh]

Got the clean air kits luggable xl review coming out very soon.

[@robkelley1311]

Ive built over 20 gaming PCs in 20 years. Im really familiar with pc fans and brands. You coule even use rgb fans and there are pcs fans this same size that blow more cfm. But ive been looking at getting a air purifier the vital 200s for my living room and bedroom. Is this better than the 200s?

[@HouseFresh]

I prefer something that uses PC fans as much quieter and use far less energy. Plus in the US, you have great access to high qualiyt HVAC filters. The Levoit Vital 200S is perfect for someone who wants it to plug and play and has carbon whilst most pc fan kits are particle only.

[@juts89]

I would be pretty worried about longevity of the fans since there is no input filter. Air and dust will get in those bearings. At least from someone who has gone through a fair number of PC fans. Its also insanely overpriced considering its basically a stripped down PC case with the sides cut off. They dont even include the power supply or fans, which is crazy. Its just a box.

[@HouseFresh]

Interesting point about no input filter. The fans do push air out from the box so in theory the air should be filtered through the filters on the side but maybe I am not understanding? I imagine a lot of the cost is due to the fact this is a first generation device so don't have any economies of scale but it would be good to see a power supply included in future versions.

[@klfjoat]

It's a box that I don't have the means to manufacture. If you do, they have a GitHub with the files to create the design yourself.

[@darylfortney8081]

Same price and cadr as a honeywell hpa300 which is actually hepa much smaller, just as quiet and better looking… what’s the point really? Aftermarket hepa filters are just as cheap as hvac mervs.

[@HouseFresh]

It is smaller than the Honeywell HPA300 plus the Honeywell at full blast is 59.5 dBa vs 41.8 dBa that we see with the Nukit Tempest. Certainly design is in the eye of the beholder I prefer the look of this but can imagine others prefer something like the Honeywell. The other benefit of this whole approach to air purifiers is that they are much easier to repair yourself as each part is off the shelf.

[@darylfortney8081]

@@HouseFresh but it doesn’t need to run at full blast. Usually these just run at low 24/7 and keep the room at 0ppm always. Hpa300 is only 18x22x9 but to be fair the hpa200 is a better like to like comparison and it’s only 16x19x8 and even has air quality sensor and is under $200

[@HouseFresh]

@@darylfortney8081 That is true but I have seen big performance drop off for most retail HEPA devices when running at lower fan speeds. I totally agree that most consumers will be best off with a standard HEPA device like those you the HPA200 you recommend but I do think the future is going to include these PC fan systems as they just get a lot more performance when you account for energy and sound usage.

[@darylfortney8081]

@@HouseFresh someone needs to come out with a nicer looking smaller version with real hepa filter compatibility and auto air quality sensing with variable speed and off the shelf and ill bite… bonus points for homekit compatibility

[@HouseFresh]

@@darylfortney8081 I agree and I think we will start to see more devices that will have more of these features. I recently tested the AirFanta 3pro and its super easy to put together and has variable speed. As soon as I see interesting new devices I will grab them and do a review so you are aware :)

[@robkelley1311]

They dont ship to the United States? I tried 3 different addresses.

[@HouseFresh]

Yes sorry , i read about she had issues I read about on X and now doesn't sell to the US. Clean Air Kits do a similar kit and have options for material and can for the one we tested it did have higher air cleaning performance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGOopHWqj6qWbJo& Will make sure to make this clearer that it's not avaible in the US as this wasn't the case when I first published the review.

[@robkelley1311]

@HouseFresh yeah I seen that review you did on that one too. Which is the one I'd go for out of the 2. But I'm trying to decide between the winix 5500 or the vital 200s. I'm having a hard time with this one. I'll try the more expensive DIY kits down the road.

[@HouseFresh]

If you don’t need the app support I would pick the Winix option. Seperate carbon and particle sensor and tons of generic filters available as it’s such a big seller .

[@robkelley1311]

@HouseFresh I'm reading reviews where they are saying you can't turn off the LED lights on the Winix. They said there is a sleep mode where it dims or turns off the lights but you can't change the fan speed in this mode and the fan only runs in low speed in sleep mode. The LEDS are basically in your face to where with the vital 200s I think the LEDS won't be in your face. LEDS could be annoying when trying to watch a movie or sleep.

[@HouseFresh]

​​⁠I have heard other people having this issue and it’s annoying the sleep more is so basic in the Winix model. Sounds like the vital 200s will be the one for you. Let me know how you get on with it when it arrives!

[@advancedmonkey7702]

it's crazy they selling this thing for 180 bucks. CRAZY.

[@HouseFresh]

I suppose it must be the cost of the metal frame but it does mean the cost is pretty high when you account for the extras like fan and filters . They do share the designs to make it yourself with a laser cutter github.com/opennukit/Nukit-Open-Air-Purifier/

[@vash2698]

This is awesome! Useful thing to note that I didn't see mentioned: The reason the noise normalized performance is so good is because those PC fans are optimized for static pressure vs pure airflow, so you may not have the same outright CFM as something like a box fan BUT they'll handle airflow restriction much more effectively. That higher static pressure means you could go longer between filter changes and potentially use multiple stages without as much airflow loss as the box fan design. There are loads of resources online that test PC fan performance, so there's likely room for further improvement (although those Arctic Cooling fans are an excellent choice). Those fans run off of 12v, and you can get molex powered fan hubs/controllers for easy wiring to a standard DC power brick without much effort. Also, if someone happens to have some basic tools available (router, table or circular saw, pocket hole jig), they could make a very similar design out of MDF and lower the cost dramatically.

[@HouseFresh]

Thanks for all the extra detail very useful! 🙏

[@maozedowner5915]

Imagine this, but as a PC case. Your PC will never be dirty, and always run cool. I'm currently running a case free PC, but I would definitely put it in a case if this becomes commercially available for cheap, even if my room is never dirty in the first place.

[@HazewinDog]

@@maozedowner5915 so essentially a dual chamber PC case, except one side only has intake and the other only exhaust, and there's a big ass filter inbetween? that's a really cool idea

[@steve132best]

​@HazewinDog I believe all the fans need to pushing air into the box, so the air flow goes into the box, and out through the filter. Or the other way around if that's your preference.

[@HouseFresh]

@@steve132best This one works the other way around so air is pulled into the box and the fans push the air out. All of the PC fan kits seem to do the same so I assume there must be a benefit to that approach then the opposite.

[@3darms]

I would think sound performance could be improved by putting the fans between the filters. That way the filters themselves would dampen the sound. I assume there's a reason why this isn't as good but I don't know it.

[@HouseFresh]

I assume there must be a reason for why they didn't do it this way as it would help a lot. Maybe they needed more surface area that you wouldn't get it was just the fans pushing through the filter vs pulling air into the box. Will investigate further! Good question.

[@darknessblades]

With the design issues, wouldn't using something like 2020 aluminium profiles be more user-friendly. Any linke for those filters, am in the EU as well and filters are indeed hard to get. some suppliers have a minimum of 12 units requirements

[@HouseFresh]

Very tricky to find the good filters as need to import so very costly. I would look at a kit that can use the Filterete 3m filters as I found them easier you find outside of the USA.

[@JamesJohnson-sk3cd]

Seriously wonder why a chinese company cant sell these kits made out of plastic for like 15 dollars

[@HouseFresh]

If you see one let me know!

[@johndeluca8372]

Just finished building mine. One thing I would suggest is the use of smart plugs to control the Tempest via app. You could have a mesh of Tempest nodes fully controlled via Wi-Fi on your phone.

[@HouseFresh]

A good point and something I should have looked at more. Combined with smart sensors these devices could be much smarter than air purifiers with app support and you are also not locked into a specific tech stack. The benefit of these pc fan kits is that they can be controlled via smart plug whilst your standard hepa retail devices need to be switched on from the controls first. Another benefit is during energy black outs as these device will automatically come on vs standard hepa retail that need to switched on manually. Will look at more when I do another video about the tempest as I want to more tests using different fan brands and filters. Hope you’re enjoying your Nukit Tempest!

[@ophello]

What’s there to control? Turn it on, leave it on.

[@HouseFresh]

@@ophello would be good to still save filters/energy cost when your away.

[@KikiX127]

I am curious about this device but I have 2 cats and odor control is an issue for me. Could this device accommodate a carbon filter or would it affect the performance too much?

[@HouseFresh]

As standard it doesn’t but it is something that we want to test. The problem will be to find standard carbon filters that fit this particular size. But leave it with us and see if we can find a solution that works.

[@AlasdairLumsden-j9j]

It would probably compromise the airflow somewhat but I’d love an actual PC case version since I have a PC in my bedroom anyway and having one big black box rather than two would save space (plus the components inside would stay nice and dust free!)

[@HouseFresh]

An interesting idea especially if you use low profile and components so reduced airflow isn’t a problem. Just need a way to have filters and still space for everything else for the computer bit. Will think about more.

[@maozedowner5915]

I would totally want such thing. Always loved the idea of PC doubling as air purifier. Keeping the room clean, and your PC too, all the while cooling the PC down.

[@brwainer]

If I was using this, I’d use filters that include a carbon layer, such as from Nordic Pure. The cost increase is minimal. The benefit of DIY and choice!

[@HouseFresh]

Nice idea! I plan to have another with lots of ways to customize such as new fans different filters..etc so will try and also include those with carbon layers! Thanks for sharing.

[@MIKExMASSACREx]

I heard carbon layers are useless and gimicky

[@quinnco9]

I thought it was all-inclusive when I saw this and was excited, but at that price I’m considering making mods to an empty PC case with the side panels removed. What I end up choosing largely depends on the time input.

[@HouseFresh]

This sounds super interesting be sure to share. Try do also share their designs for the Tempest for those who want to build with their own material.

[@lordwafflesthegreat]

Are there any filters with the dimension of standard PC fans? Or maybe like 2 fans side by side? Just as a thing that you'd be able to slot into the PC tower, or 3D print a shroud for. Maybe even filters that you can cut to size?

[@HouseFresh]

There are lots of small filter that could work with one single fan. Will be testing a few different designs.

[@chickynuggers]

I recently bought a luggable xxl from clean air kits for $280 total (230 for the kit and 50 for the merv 13 filters) and to my knowledge its hard to beat the the cadr to $ ratio of that: $280 for 410 cadr. At least here in the US. I also have a Winix 535 (same as 5500) for many years now and the luggable is definitely much more powerful. My parents room is a dust bomb and with the winix on high (not turbo) they've mentioned it doesn't seem to be doing as much as the luggable. Anecdotal, but still. Perhaps the only real con of the luggable is its not as robust as a typical unit so you have to be more careful but thats a more minor complaint in my eyes. Excited for you guys to test out different pc fan models and spread the good word!

[@qewfsdsd65445]

The Luggable XXL doesn't have a CADR of 410. Its CADR is 259.Air filters are not designed to remove dust. They aren't a vacuum cleaner.

[@HouseFresh]

The Luggalble XXL is next up - we will be doing an unboxing this week and then will work on the review very soon! Anything you don't like about it?

[@chickynuggers]

@@HouseFresh main con is its just not as robust as a typical unit. Oh, and make sure the merv filters u get along with it are in good shape, 1 inches filters have a tendency to get banged up if you ship them. Besides that, nope!

[@chickynuggers]

⁠@@qewfsdsd65445true, guess I gotta vacuum then lol. Where did you get the 259 number? It says 410 on their site for cadr

[@qewfsdsd65445]

@@chickynuggers 259 is their claim for the CADR.

[@stab244]

I wonder if there are files to 3d print the frame. Would have to split the frame but it should be doable

[@HouseFresh]

If you find it, be sure to share with me. Could be my reason to get into 3d printing!

[@erwinvangrinsven9345]

Does it do 20 hertz and how many watts is this❓🤡

[@Mojo_DK]

How does it compare to the Blast Mini? It has an impressive CADR and is very quiet as well.

[@HouseFresh]

Blast Mini has a much bigger CADR and runs quite a bit louder at full speed. But you could run the blast mini at lower fan speeds for similar level of sound. Will look at showing performance comparison with DIY devices when we do the video review for the Smart Blast Mini.

[@MrUncleBob]

is the website down? i tried ordering but the site said its not taking payments? please advise

[@HouseFresh]

Just heard that there were complaints made to Shopify that they were not based in the US - see more information here: x.com/NukitToBeSure/status/1793095227659743417 A real shame as this is a great product that would help a lot of people. They did say they are going to working with another payment provider so hopefully it will be back online soon.

[@MrUncleBob]

@@HouseFresh Probably big corp trying to shut them down for providing a good thing for regular folk. Switching to a MERV 13 solution not only reduces noise but also cuts down on electric bills while maintaining, or even enhancing, air quality.

[@qewfsdsd65445]

Why doesn't Danny mention the obvious problems with this DIY and his running costs are unrealistic? It looks like it doesn't have a prefilter so it will cost more as you need to replace the filters you'll need to do that much more often compared to the 5500-2. Without a prefilter those MERV 13 filters will degrade in a few months like they always do. You need to replace them really often. That costs a lot more than the 5500-2. I'm hesitant to run the MERV 13 in my HVAC because of how quickly they fill up with dust. It also doesn't have variable speeds to choose from. The 5500-2 has variable speeds. It also looks very large. The 5500-2 is much more compact. The 5500-2 has a carbon filter which this doesn't. The carbon filter in the 5500-2 also acts as a second prefilter so the life of the filters will be a lot longer in the 5500-2 than in this Nukit. The best thing about the 5500-2 is it has something called automatic mode where it users an onboard laser-sensor to detect the air pollution level. It's only noisy when the air pollution level is really bad because it has an inbuilt sensor technology. People who think the 5500-2 is noisy just haven't understood how to use the automatic mode. The 5500-2 also uses real carbon pellets and a HEPA filter which captures ultra-fine particles. MERV 13 isn't good for ultra-fine particles. The 5500-2 will have much lower running costs and it's also doing a better job as it uses automatic mode to control itself.

[@HouseFresh]

It’s not a pre filter but there is a metal mesh that is washable but it’s true it’s not as easy to clean as the washable pre filter . I still think the 5500-2 is good as it has washable carbon and is plug and play. The merv 13 still removes all tiny particles as there are many passes through the filter and non hepa grade can actually be more effective air purifier is as there is higher air flow . There is an option to get a switch for different speeds for the nukit tempest but is extra $ The big thing is that this needs building so not a plug and play solution vs the winix 5500-2. It’s not that large will show a video next to winix 5500-2 bit it’s similar size but different shape.

[@HouseFresh]

also be sure to watch our upcoming review for the 5500-2 I’m a big fan it’s one of the top devices I recommend to most people.

[@qewfsdsd65445]

@@HouseFresh With no prefilter like in this DIY the MERV 13 will only last a few months. Just look at the MERV 13 in your HVAC after a couple of months. They get coated in dust. That means the running cost will be really high as you need to replace the filters 2-3 times a year. MERV 13 are also a lot lower efficiency than HEPA filter with ultra-fine particulates. That means they only remove a small proportion of the ultra-fine particulates compared to the 5500-2. The 5500-2 also has a carbon filter which removes VOCs. The carbon filter also further extends the lifespan of the HEPA filter because it acts as a prefilter preventing the HEPA filter from filling with dust.

[@qewfsdsd65445]

@@HouseFresh The problem isn't the lack of plug and play. It's the fact this product only uses MERV 13 filters with no prefilters. This means the running costs will be very high as you need to replace MERV 13 every few months as they get full of dust without a prefilter. It also means it's not effective for removing ultra-fine particulates. It doesn't have variable speeds. It doesn't have an automatic mode. It has no carbon filter so the air is being far less filtered compared to the 5500-2. It also looks huge compared to the 5500-2.

[@TheBMurda]

Weird username and you sound like a competitor trying to crap on the product lol. There are several false statements in your comment. The mesh could be improved but the Deis design also has a better pre filter type design. The reality is if you care about using your purifiers in context when they need to run at speed, like if you are trying to prevent spread of airborne infections indoors, this is so so much better than a Winix 5500 on low, and around the same volume. The winix will do very little on low. BTW I own 6 Winix.