Have 12 Months Without a Wash Damaged the Paint? Ownership Update

[@Number27]

Fredo - Alfa 147 GTA Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL-JmG4958QS9lj0jv6PWJlzk8iPCAAvOn InfluEnzo - Cheap Ferrari 308 Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL-JmG4958QS8v5Bn2lol3bm8YQ4UNRstU FrankEnlise - Lotus Elise with chassis damage: kzbin.info/aero/PL-JmG4958QS9df4fvjAl5S8mOwQ_WObz3 Pepé - Peugeot 205 project and crash victim: kzbin.info/aero/PL-JmG4958QS_ZE88oc7vJ5H5ZsexcyDae Fred - Austin Healey Sprite Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL-JmG4958QS-c2scXFlq1VfzA9Exm1w-W

[@RobBoothAutomotive]

The petrol station jetwash brush of doom!

[@Number27]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ryanmccormick2150]

Exactly what I was thinking! 😅😂

[@davidgray5583]

Your mate who is pro detailer will be slapping his head when he sees the brush :-)

[@tc5273]

lol I winced and nearly had a stroke when the 'brush of doom' was slopped on Fredo. I was mummering 'no, dont use the brush, dont use the brush! He's used the f*&king brush¬¬'

[@mariospanna8389]

@@Number27 one way to scratch all your paint work in one trip to the shoddy hand wash brush, anyone watching this that loves cars please dont do this ;)

[@rebel099tl]

I enjoy cleaning my car but I'd rather leave it dirty than subject it to that petrol station brush lol

[@Number27]

The brush was fine!! 😄

[@astongreenhill4985]

@@Number27 just wasn’t tho

[@ianbusby2845]

@@Number27 no brush

[@unknown_user283]

@@Number27 🤦🏻‍♂️ the brush wasn’t fine. You can see on the close it ups covered in scratch’s. That’s years of people saying the brush is fine.

[@LewisRhymes]

Eah should of just sprayed with foam and just done glass with brush!

[@sparky4878]

I love washing and cleaning my cars. Takes hours and hours at home (snow foam, rinsing, shampoo, drying, clay, wax etc). I find it so relaxing.

[@samcourt6228]

Me too. I hate driving around in filthy cars. I find the process very satisfying.

[@Number27]

It was guys.. I feel so much better and like the car so much more now it is clean.. but I was just short of time!!

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420]

I loathe washing the car. It's like hoovering or washing-up for me. As soon as it's driven in the rain it reverts to its previous state.

[@samcourt6228]

@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 not necessarily. A decent protection help the dirt it stick too much.

[@garychivers9726]

No! How could you use that nasty brush that has been on everyone else's vehicle? That causes so many scratches Jack. Can't believe my eyes 😂

[@carcontent8214]

WOW I didn’t realise anyone who actually cared about their car would wash it like that. You have just inflicted millions of fine scratches in your clear coat thanks to that brush.. 😭

[@johnmandragon4830]

I also winced when I saw him use that horrid brush...... I would love a week with that car, I could do some magic.....

[@Andy-pu2iv]

I keep harking back to my time in the auto industry some 20-odd years ago... I had a very small hand in the development of the 147GTA. Alfa wanted a headline figure of 250BHP from the V6 for the GTA. The regular "cooking" 147s had an exhaust layout that couldn't be altered for the GTA for cost reasons. My job was to make the exhaust internals flow well enough to allow 250 hp while keeping all the giblets inside the physical space available. As well as making it sound good and meet noise regs. I'm quite proud of that part of my career.

[@Number27]

Sounds awesome!! Congrats on your work!

[@NaturallyAspirated]

Glad to see it back in its clean glory! I have had both those codes crop up a lot as well! The MCS failure was the lambda sensor for mine and generally cropped up after driving in the rain and then leaving it to dry out and the right side light normally comes up after the car has gotten wet, normally if I turn it off and on it disappears! The joys of Alfa wiring and electronics! Look forward to seeing more!

[@Number27]

Thanks buddy, I’ll find out what’s going on with it!

[@nekite1]

If I want my car cleaned, I take it to my local detailer, rather than any scratch and shine merchants. Yes, it costs me the princely sum of £30 for a couple of hours, but the results are gratifying.

[@hi2lenduffy837]

How can you wash a car like that with the brush at a petrol station 🤣

[@desmayhew]

OMG 😳 Never EVER use the petrol station brush - that’s gonna need a machine polish now 😬

[@Number27]

No dude, that brush was fine.. pretty soft and the foam was super thick. Think it was ok this time’

[@matthewbell1968]

Never EVER use a jetwash on reversing sensors either, they maim them..

[@mell3109]

@@Number27 got to say a firm no to this Jack, any time you have to touch your paint do so with caution. That’s why we use foam, the jet, the careful wash, dry and protect.

[@jamiejack764]

@@Number27 it will still scratch sir. They are left on the floor. Please don't use this on the 308.

[@prof_tim]

I have to agree - those petrol station brushes are full of grit from all the daily drivers that got there before you. Honestly; don’t, please.

[@dudenamedclem]

Getting lots of complaints about using the brush, I won’t pile onto it but I look forward to your rebuttal next video!!

[@exquezit]

Ohh dear, you're gonna regret this video with all the car valeting experts 🤦🏾‍♂️🙆🏽‍♂️

[@Number27]

I think you’re right! 🤣

[@rhettcorcoran2879]

A year before you washed it, I couldn't last a week :)! Great video.

[@Number27]

Thanks Rhett, have a great weekend!

[@AndyfromSurrey]

With regards to error messages. Disconnect negative terminal on the battery for 30secs or so and see if that sorts it. If not you will need fault codes read. If side lights are ok but still getting warning, remove bulb, check it is correct bulb & right way round, clean contacts and refit.

[@Number27]

Will try thanks Andy!

[@bobmcl2406]

Jack: "This car has run through a whole winter of salt...." Canada has left the chat. 😁

[@declancarey1435]

If you listen carefully you can actually hear the paint screaming when he took the brush to it

[@Number27]

Come on chaps!! 🤣🤣🤣 calm down, that brush was fine. Bristles pretty soft and foam was very thick

[@matthewbell1968]

@@Number27 Jack! A soft garage brush doesn't exist mate, seriously!! Fire up the machine polisher!!!

[@salvofarnia8046]

Beautiful car, good to see it again.

[@nigelbullock9039]

I washed my discovery last week for the 1st time in over a year. Bought some recommended wheel cleaner and it worked so well in removing brake dust etc. Garage Therapy car shampoo is amazing stuff that was also new.

[@Number27]

Yep, I should do it more often really..

[@ericpisch2732]

I never wash my cars, that’s the beauty of leasing, they get washed once a year by the dealer when it’s serviced wether it needs it or not

[@Number27]

Ha!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@thijss1272]

it hurts to see a 147 gta being so neglected. sorry to say so but a masterpiece like this deserves a weekly wash, daily or not..

[@tonycoughlin911]

Oh my days Jack!!! "I'm no professional detailer" = I haven't laughed so hard in ages!!! Thanks for cheering me up on a rainy day!

[@Number27]

Hard to believe I don’t do this for a living huh? I’m multitalented

[@stephenc6955]

"Hey Jack, how did you get those exhaust tail pipes so clean and shiny?" Looks down, missing sock.

[@Number27]

😄😄😄

[@eze8970]

Alfa's looking good Jack, hope Fred gets a wash too (after all the rain etc)!

[@organiccold]

Hey Jack! About the errors: yes sometimes when you change the battery if you connect the negative first the engine light comes on, and sometimes just the fact of changing it will cause that. The side lights is a common issue, they are a bit of a pain to change but they tend to do a bad connection and the resistance in the circuit goes low and the error shows, get new ones, clean the contacts and you should be ok. For diagnostic and other things in those get a good ELM 327 cable and a software called: MultiEcuScan. I use it for years, and is well known in all the Alfa community as the best software that does everything even dealer level stuff. Any questions about the 147 i can help, i had a lot of them and i know them in and out :) Oh to reset all the car and make it re-learn your driving style there are the steps: Negative battery pole of for 45 min minimum; Them battery connected and start the engine without touching in anything, just start it and leave it running for 15 minutes, then go for a drive where you use all gears and rpms etc no least than 30 mins.

[@Number27]

Thanks for the advice buddy!!

[@Lee_Pitcher]

Worth using a local paintless dent guy. I use one regularly in Suffolk (Bye Bye Dent) and the stuff he's able to do is amazing - the closest thing to magic you'll ever see ! Best £40 (ish) you'll ever spend for panel dent removal

[@Number27]

Yep.. that would be best!!

[@Jester-Riddle]

Ages ago, I was given advice by a bodywork guy who said that a Car only needs two washes ... One when you buy it and one for when you sell it ! In the meantime the dirt protects the paint and washing a car badly wrecks the paintwork ... eg. using Automatic Car Washes ... Finally, if it's really 'pretty' someone will want to steal it ...

[@stuartd9741]

I was going to say this. I'm some ways a layer of crud protects the paint front the UV rays of the sun too. I've seen many a old car/ motorbike covered in oil/ crud cleaned up looking like new. Only time I'd tackle a build up of crud is the winter with the road salt..

[@organiccold]

Hi Jack. Looks good Fredo. In mine 147s i used ceramic coating in all the car, easy to apply and the plastics go black and last almost for ever. Good job there

[@Number27]

Yep, that would definitely help!! Thanks for watching Inacio and have a great weekend !

[@organiccold]

@@Number27 you welcome, no way i will miss a video :) a good weekend for you too.

[@davidbiagini9048]

OMG, there's an Alfa Romeo under all that dirt! What a find. 😊

[@nellyjon423]

The car wash brush has triggered me 🤣. Great vid as always, I think you used it on purpose to lure out the lurkers in comment section 🤔

[@Number27]

I honestly had no idea it would cause such a fuss!!

[@drewmog123456]

I remember talking to an elderly gent who was standing next to his immaculate old Volvo. I asked him how he managed to keep it looking so wonderful. He told me he only washed it once a year!

[@Number27]

Ha!! Brilliant!!

[@mistyman]

A cheap tip for faded black trim pieces an especially rubber parts: black shoe polish. There is a thin black dyed shoe polish with a sponge to apply. Try it. It made my ten year old fiesta look five years younger. Greetings from Germany.

[@mistyman]

I do not know how the product is called in UK. Maybe Express shoe polish...

[@Number27]

Thanks Markus and have a good weekend!!

[@ryanmccormick2150]

My God Jack my heart was in my mouth when you used that petrol station brush! 😂 probably better off using a Brillo pad…… less scratches 😂😂😂. Cracking video tho bud 👍

[@Number27]

Hey dude.. the brush was fine!! It was soft and sure it didn’t do any damage!

[@ryanmccormick2150]

@@Number27 Happy days! I’m just very OCD with stuff like that but your Alfa sure looks good after her was😃👍

[@Saboda53]

Too many dramatic overreactions here!!! No, you would not be “better off using a Brillo pad”! What you did was not ideal, but with all that very heavy foam on a clearly very soft brush, I’m sure it was not catastrophic to your car’s finish. Good job. 👍

[@ryanmccormick2150]

@@Saboda53 Brillo pad was an obvious joke!

[@GRfourfun]

Jack, that brush 🤦🏼‍♂️. You’re going to attract the ocd car cleaning comments for sure lol #washgate 😉

[@sparky4878]

I closed my eyes at that. Seen worse crimes against paintwork and chances are given the age will be nicely swirled anyway.

[@Number27]

Yep beginning to see that but the brush was fine!

[@mariospanna8389]

@@Number27 ok time to unsubscribe then till he admits a brush on car paint is just plain dumb...

[@domenicoforte1799]

Love the clean almost new Alfa mate keep up the good work

[@Number27]

Thanks buddy!!

[@antgrayuk]

Having recently become an Alfa owner, I can say that nothing looks better then a freshly cleaned Alfa. I clean it more than any car I've owned! Obviously will continue to wash at home given the backlash of comments about the carwash brush LOL

[@PaulDoldenDetails]

Thanks for the shoutout Jack I’ll give you 5/10 for giving it a go that’s Alfa’s still a great car 👍🏻🇬🇧👍🏻🇬🇧👍🏻

[@Number27]

Cheers buddy.. they can check out your channel if they want to see it done well’

[@XB10001]

I.never though I would hear Alfa Romeo and reliable in the same sentence. But I guess that when your other vehicles are a Lotus and a Ferrari, the perspective changes.

[@XB10001]

5:40 ... Oh, there you go.

[@downesy68]

Hey Jack, that light warning is a side light, not your main beams. As an owner of a 159 and a GT, I’m replacing globes all the time so I see those warnings regularly. Just have another look with your lights on and you’ll see one of your parking lights will be out. The warning message should tell you which one on start up.

[@salvofarnia8046]

I detail my black 159 ti and safe wash with lambswool and noodle mits, snow foam first to loosen dust, to take a brush that lives on the floor to it is like fitting glazing beads with a club hamer looool

[@salvofarnia8046]

Hammer

[@Number27]

The brush has a holder!

[@jasonshull3106]

Looks great wish I could buy that car here. JDS in AZ usa

[@Number27]

AMAZING engine… and shame you can’t have it over there BUT.. you can buy a lot of other stuff cheap there!!

[@jasonshull3106]

@@Number27 sorry so late, that great ALFA v6 4 cam only came here in crap cars, to expensive and to complicated. I want one like yours, thanks again for the great video.JDS in AZ usa

[@simonwoodward438]

Looks great, that dent puller is nifty I have a few supermarket door dents on my Celica that would benefit from that tool

[@Sleepy.Time.]

should avoid using those car wash wands, you end up just smearing the grit over the entire car

[@sneeuwwolf1176]

Thnx for the Polytrol tip. I will give it a try on my E90.

[@Number27]

Good luck!! Follow the instructions and it will work!

[@gizmo6164]

Pleeeeeeease give Fredo to me 🙏🏼The wash schedule is twice a week whether used or not - full hit every time. His little face would be beaming getting all the love. 😂😂😂

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

I remember when I had a Red fiat and BMW back in the day and they went pink ! Had to wax them all the time it was a right pain.

[@focus3303]

Keep the car's clean jack 👍🙂🙂

[@alexr129]

get yourself a polisher with some mild compound and some G techniq ceramic coating and G techniq trim restorer and you will me amazed

[@155andRising]

I had a bulb warning for donkeys until I remembered to check the rear number plate light 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 Fredo looks great though Jack . Alfa Red is notorious for paint fade in but yours seems to have resisted the pink flamingo look 🙌🏻🐍🍀

[@Number27]

It’s beeen repainted!!!

[@155andRising]

@@Number27 of course yeah I remember now . I have been asleep since the first vid 😂

[@mp-hn7rg]

…i bought one of these today! i wanted one for years but common sense always played through! now, being kinda Covid crazy and after too many of you’re videos i just did it. btw drives awesome, sounds glorious but needs work - aaarrrgghhh

[@tomd328]

I think you can warm the plastic up with a heat gun that’ll make the shine last longer. Just be careful not to melt / burn it

[@Number27]

You can but I’ve never been brave enough!!

[@tomd328]

@@Number27 me neither 😂

[@18000rpm]

Ceramic coat it so it's much harder for dirt to stick.

[@Number27]

Should do..

[@Greig300]

No! Never use those public brushes on your cars paint!

[@cornishrider]

Living in the country between two farms there is a window of about two weeks in the year when my cars are not either lagged in mud or dust! Always stop cleaning your cars as frequently when it becomes a chore rather than a pleasure, I'd rather have a clean cabin than exterior 😆

[@busterboy7505]

Looking good Jack, I mean the car o course,😙😙😙.

[@bakedbeanzontoast9078]

Petrol station brush, is very lush !!!!.😉👍👍👍👍

[@Number27]

Hey man it was fine!! 😄

[@bakedbeanzontoast9078]

@@Number27 I just use a drive thru automatic wash as I hate cleaning the cars.👍🇬🇧

[@MrMelton77]

Worth doing an underchassis wash to remove winter salt

[@superseven7947]

Jack believe me your Alfa isn't too bad! each winter I frequently get my Daily driver car so dirty it's unrecognisable 🤦‍♂️😂

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420]

That diy rear number plate lets the side down.

[@dimi911]

What about the underchassis? Much more crucial to wash this than the bodywork after a year of driving

[@ClellBiggs]

I had a tree limb fall on the hood of my car (like a spear) and it left a dent similar to yours, but fortunately no paint was moved. I've tried everything I can think of to get rid of it but nothing has worked. I'll probably have to take it to a body shop or one of those paintless dent removal places.

[@Number27]

Yep, the debt remover guys are pretty good..

[@davidgeater5]

Them dentvpullers are a waste of time jack leave the dents to the dent man : )

[@westcoast747]

Alfa Red, Bella!Bella!

[@AlfaGTA156]

Aaaaaargghhh🤯🤯. You might as well gone down to halfords and purchased some 800grit wet n dry sandpaper to detail your car. May look lovely from a distance, but you’ll have swirl marks in the paint work.

[@iamyourfuture808]

will there be any lasting paint damge he asks? then in the next clip hes using a friggin brush to clean it LOL !!!

[@samcourt6228]

I’ll admit to being a bit of a detailing nerd (I enjoy the process)....the petrol station brush certainly made my teeth itch! I think I’d rather leave it dirty! 😂 It looked well though with the crap removed.

[@Number27]

Yep I think it was fine Sam.. the brush was in pretty good condition and soft enough. Don’t think it would have done any damage

[@Lot76CARS]

Jack, to be fair I don't think you'll be working as a detailer any time soon... no offence

[@Number27]

What? That was my backup career

[@BritishBoy1971]

A lot of BP petrol stations have automatic car washes that cost from around £2.99 for the basic quick wash, to around £10.00 for the full-works, including wax and underbody wash. What I do now is, say go in once a month and alternate from the cheap wash one month, then the full-works wash the next. It works well, keeps my car looking ok and averages only around £7 a month.

[@peterg6677]

How about giving us an update on the Lotus, ps you've done a great job on the Spring cleaning of Fredi I'm thinking of bringing mine round 🙂

[@Number27]

An update on the Lotus is coming.. taking longer than I wanted!

[@elm11g]

Would love to hear what your mate paul would say / get him to give your gta a full detail! 🙌🏽

[@humunahumunaha9770]

Hey what has been the total cost of maintenance?

[@h533feg]

If that was an Alfa Sud it would have dissolved entirely by now.

[@Number27]

Undoubtedly!!!

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Keep it! And wash it a bit more often 🙂

[@Number27]

Yes I really should!!

[@RUS-wg6wt]

Thermo glue can be easily washed off with isopropyl alcohol Alpha beauty!

[@coltr7561]

check the register plate bulbs

[@michaelstaley2241]

Lovely car I do hope you keep it.. I presume you garage the Alfa.👍😎

[@spencerbarratt7421]

Have you tried lowering the rear tyre pressures a few PSI's?

[@Number27]

I did run them a bit lower for a while..ride was better but handling suffered!

[@ukmud6218]

I struggle to go two week, I've seen a fair few green mossy cars this year

[@steffydog]

Awesome 👏

[@herme99]

Lovely car

[@Number27]

Thanks!

[@kev-the-windsurfer.]

I HATE washing cars, maybe its because it was my first job ever in 1984 at a Toyota dealership before they took me on as a mechanics apprentice. As much as I dont like washing cars I do rather enjoy the results!! Always nice to get into a nice freshly cleaned car......

[@martinhall3309]

My 147 used to throw up the bulb failure warning ⚠️ on the dash regularly and the bulb in question was working fine so just go with it it’s an Alfa thing 😀

[@LouTrottier]

thank god I watched this video. Now I know to never (again) use a gas station wash brush.. who knew?

[@Number27]

Yep.. you’ve learned an invaluable lesson Lou!

[@forresten]

I am also concerned about that public use scrubby thingy. Maybe a good soak with a thick coat of foam could do better lifting the dirt, grime and crod and then do the wet clay? I am not a detailer myself ... Have done my fair deal of scratching the clear coat thanks to automated washers. :/ To the bonnet - for a home fix, it is better than it was, I must say. Securing the lower layers (eg. not letting oxidization commence) is what I'd do too. Oh and to the shopper: *drops something onto the surface, slams or dings the panel* Me: You are found guilty. Your sentence is DEATH *Judge Dredd face from the Sylvester movie*.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

That's one car that should have a see through bonnet

[@Number27]

You’re absolutely right Anthony!! Thanks for watching!

[@maxmoughal5183]

Get a pressure washer and a snowfoam lance, your paint will thank you

[@Number27]

Have a pressure washer but it’s crap

[@pdtech4524]

Not washed in a year!! 😯😁 I get anxious if I don't wash my daily drive (Fiat Panda 4x4) once a week! ⚠️😊 I used to work with a colleague who would NEVER EVER wash his car from new until he sold it usually 3 years later!!😯😁 He reckoned he paid for that diamond brite finish when purchasing the car new, which he insisted protected the paintwork from dirt, dust, bird crap, road salt, UV light, x rays, radiation etc etc lol not just for like 3 months, he was so confident on it's protection, that he convinced himself it was a permanent protection!🤔 Apparently he thought the rain washed his car and any dirt simply ran off the diamond brite finish! 😁 I reckon he was either trying to get his moneys worth out of the diamond brite finish or he was just lazy! Either way, some future owner 10 years down the line will be wondering why the paint finish is deteriorating and rust bubbling all over!😁

[@Number27]

😄

[@ThePigletpilot]

Couldn’t catch the name of the product you used on the Grey/black trim. What is it called please? That lets down both our Alfa’s and looks really bad on the black 147 GTA.

[@Number27]

Polytrol! Hope it helps!

[@paddyhague683]

Budgens jet wash I see. Great convenience store.

[@Number27]

Indeed, the detailers choice! 😄

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

Now get it up on stands wheels off and jetwash / foam clean all the salty crud from the bottom...

[@vicent436]

Having a car without washing in a year is usual everywhere by anyone

[@howardscott7521]

I'm surprised it didnt start misfiring after you washed it..lol!

[@Number27]

That’s next!!

[@coltr7561]

only if you wash the engine, be careful with that, The water can go to spark plugs.

[@ianhammond2564]

What did your detailing mate say when you took it too a garage jet wash and brushed it😱🤣

[@oneman-onedog]

Once you’d hosed it down did you have to open the doors to let the water pour out?

[@Number27]

😄😄😄😄

[@salvofarnia8046]

Lot of grit in that brush. Lots of swirls.

[@giovannigallo8429]

Was that an old sock you used to clean the exhaust pipes?

[@Number27]

Yep! 😄

[@giovannigallo8429]

@@Number27 😂😂

[@carstenweiland7896]

Go to a wash that includes the floor pan, it is still filthy and salty underneath. Otherwise, yes I should wash my car too!

[@markthoughtswithukrainemas2072]

JACK !!!! what are you doing 1. using a brush thats been on other cars to wash your car 2. using a Brush on your car in the first place

[@XB10001]

1:28 if you care about the paint AT ALL, you shouldn't scrub like that.

[@judih.8754]

Looking good, but I'm sure your neighbors think you're daft. If so, you're in good company!