Nurses Fleeing The Profession At Alarming Rate

[@MOONBASE_Stereo_Side_Touchdown]

Why wouldn't they ? $25- $35 just to park !!! Come on, really ? Nurses and doctors should have FREE parking !!!

[@cpg86259]

Doctors usually get free parking

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

They sure do - all hospitals give doctors free parking. Horses and allied health pay the same fees that patience and visitors do.

[@MOONBASE_Stereo_Side_Touchdown]

@@eromnaliuqyaj6288 i was talking about the nurses leaving in droves, not the elitist doctors. I have to visit the hospital on a regular basis and the nurses are always saying they can't afford to come into work.

[@hereandthere6001]

RNS rip off

[@58Odyssey]

Nurses are important and are backbone of a hospital.

[@missk1534]

Mandated out! Never going back! No regrets. The healthcare system is a joke. Nursing sucks!

[@churchofpos2279]

I quit after 30 years, when I was threatened with termination for not getting the Jab. I made the decision to not renew my license and retired from Healthcare. I now work part time in retail and am so much happier.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

You know it's bad when you're happy in retail

[@whereswaldo5740]

Forced out after 17 years because I refused a biweekly nasopharyngeal swab. Year and a half later spouse left same place after 11 years there. She has 30 years plus. She works rehab now and likes it better.

[@TheMeme0208]

You've been mandated for yes to take vaccinations. Good they fired you. Lol

[@rossbaker9721]

I’ve been a nurse for 10 years today. And I won’t be advising my children to become nurses.

[@Leaptab]

The thing is a lot of degrees are either poor pay or poor work stability or conditions. So, what direction will you encourage your children to take?

[@s.p.baughman7885]

I have been a Nurse a long time ,so glad my children did NOT go into Nursing ...

[@Howardlifts]

Plus, the nurses have a body count higher than a Honda civic lol

[@chuachua-hj9zd]

Why

[@twyiatv]

Same. I told my daughter, no. Not even up for discussion. 6 years in & I’m studying accounting.

[@catsanddogs8983]

Run don't walk! Best decision I ever made was to leave nursing altogether, and I was a "4 year" RN, totally abusive profession.

[@Leaptab]

What do you do now?

[@Times397]

I have never worked in any healthcare field much less nursing. However, a blind person should be able to see how stressful and difficult being a nurse is.

[@rephaelreyes8552]

Not even doctors have it good. They may be well financially, but they’re robbed of their time

[@twyiatv]

What do you do now?

[@jasonbastian4580]

$145k for a senior retail manager that’s one hell of a pay packet for retail I think that’ll be more stressful than anything. My wife was a Woolworths store manager for a long time. Use the most stressful job imaginable.

[@Bugsybugs]

The abuse from patients and relatives ,and the bullying from nursing management and doctors,the shift work and constant harassment at home to do extra shifts,the traumatic things you have to deal with on a daily basis,the lack of support from managers,understaffing ,I could go on .Why would you stay?I would never encourage anyone to be a nurse.

[@TYD98]

My life went down hill since nursing school spent years studying, during those years lost many friends because I don't have the time hand out. I lost my dad the worst part was I was not there for my dad when he needed me the most. It's been three years since I became nurse and everything you have said here rings true to me and to piggy bag off of what you have said, older nurses bully the younger nurses, also bullying other nurses that are not your race basically majority bullies the minority. If you are a pretty nurse forget it the bullying you will face is next level and girls gossip behind you and will make sure that everybody knows that something is wrong with you. It is extremely toxic place to work literally. I have learned very quickly how to stand up for myself and never let anyone cross my boundaries even with friends that I have made while working. People that you work with act like your friends and well wisher but I am sad to say they are not your friends and will ditch you in a heartbeat, gossip about you and it's mean girls all over again. I am proud of being a nurse, I am good at what I do and I am sweet but have strong personality to combat all these vile behaviours but when I add everything it just broke me and makes me sad that I am leaving this hospital and profession because of how these girls have treated me. I have found my way out. Enough is enough.

[@southernpearl6431]

Don’r forget the bullying from Senior Nurses or even fellow Nurses.

[@ahnminah13]

Tbh at this point people should be taught or look forward to learning how to nurse themselves at an early age because these greedy businesses?? are running out of their supply :))) all because they refuse to truly consider the health and safety of staff and patients. Digging their own grave I tell ya. Can this be the beginning to their end???

[@whereswaldo5740]

Anyone else that you mentioned in there. Managers families even patients if they were treated that way would not tolerate it.

[@paulyuen5378]

@@TYD98 I’m so proud of you on how to manage all these things in just a job supposedly giving you a livelihood and not all these tough times. You’re a better person now I believe, and it’s heartbreaking to know how young nurses struggle to thrive while giving up all the time, energy and prime time of their lives. I’m a healthcare profession and nursing is just a job and nurses don’t need to sacrifice themselves to save patients or be in a toxic environment, that never make a sense for a nurse to keep up the work and apparently nurses are just making their livelihood like every worker in the world, if no one feels proud of you, you should be proud of the courage you had in the profession and all these hard work that you have done over the past years! All the best !

[@AlahnaAnset]

worst paid "profession" ever !!!!!! I actively discourage anyone thinking about starting

[@JLjljljljl989]

Me too! I’ve managed to dissuade my daughter thank goodness. It’s soul crushing and thankless. I can see myself leaving the job at some point

[@qwertyqwert2772]

why

[@rebeccayiru4781]

100%

[@jonylawson73]

I'm on a fantastic wage ..so that's slightly disingenuous Some nurses deserve a sky rocket of a pay rise and some don't

[@jonylawson73]

​@@JLjljljljl989really ? It's the best thing I've done .. a career working globally ,working in my own clinic ,on the rescue chopper for many years and now managing at 150k plus .. Some of these comments are just ridiculous

[@seangordonrichards]

Yeah my wife left the Alfred after 12 years, I thought it was a terrible shame that the culture, workload and lack of proper remuneration sees loyal staff like her move on. I think the main issue is the pay imbalance. Public hospitals need to start thinking like private organisations. A 38 y/o senior nurse with ICU and oncology experience should be paid at last $110k for the work they do. The Government needs to wake up and fund this sector. They shouldn't have to unionise just to get recognised by society for the important valuable service they provide us all with. The culture of churning through young staff to replace senior stuff due to these issues is unbelievable, naïve thinking

[@markfairbairn1769]

I left almost three years ago now, haven’t missed it for two consecutive minutes since I decided enough was enough.

[@meflyhi]

The Managements really sucks, Nursing sector should be run by Nursing background experienced people

[@Fred-Phelps]

But there is also significant bullying in nursing towards other health nurses and health care professionals. Unfortunately this issue needs addressing!

[@zakatista5246]

Absolutely. It is predominantly a female profession, and groups of women are the worst bullies.

[@zarramar3458]

Yep you ever been to a Woolworths and Coles and seen advertisements for qualified bakers . There's a real work culture of them handling and treating their bakers worst then garbage. I don't know what city you're from but in regards to nurses being bullied at work by patients I think it has a lot to do with crystal meth

[@babajaga158]

​@@zarramar3458you dont get it. Bullying nurses by other nurses or other health proffesionals.not only patients.

[@bronwest6984]

I've been on placements where fellow students have been in tears it's not nice to be in that situation

[@Fred-Phelps]

@@bronwest6984 well your in for a career of that mate!!!

[@BrandyMcCarthy-cq2kc]

I normally don’t comment but I feel the need to here to educate the obnoxious people and also others out there who may not realise the extent of our job due to shows like Greys Anatomy portraying the medical team as the main responders to patient care. Before becoming a nurse I was oblivious and thought it was just about taking blood pressures but it is certainly not the case, it came as a shock. Us nurses are with our patients probably 95% of the time and deliver all the medications and care ordered by the medical team. We are not task orientated either, we are critical thinkers and often challenge and question the medical team, and at times saving them from making prescribing errors that could cost a patient their life. We are professionals and sometimes are treated like slaves by our patients and disrespected by our colleagues, patient family and patients which makes our job even harder than it already is. We are not saying we are under paid below the average wage but we are arguing that the pay is disproportionate to what we do. The project (thank you) for highlight this. The comparison to the wages of a Librarian is to highlight the discrepancies. For example, I am constantly on edge in my everyday life that I hope I have not made an error on my shift because we are administering high risk medications and also saving people’s lives with very intricate practices and procedures whilst earning a pay that does not reflect this. The project is saying that it makes sense why the nurses are leaving the profession to get paid higher wages in a job where the worst thing you could do is rent someone out the wrong book. I also plan to leave hospital nursing because I believe I deserve better conditions and want to live a life without stress and anxiety. I know that there are so many who feel the same and sadly the patients will suffer and it will be too late before our government responds. It is not only a question of pay for me and then nurses it is also a call for ratios, safe conditions and to be respected in our role.

[@Howsoonisnow-to5nv]

on the one hand as someone who works alongside nurses i sympathise with you, on the other hand, as someone who works alongside nurses i know that 99% of nurses are jerks

[@contemplatinggod2791]

Apt.

[@meagancarmichael3892]

Thank you dearly 💛

[@Thomas-vj1mf]

Also the cable series nurse Nancy,or something. Made all RNs out to be addicted soprano wives.

[@annatetiad.4991]

In NZ, nurses are task oriented. ONLY. ...glorified nurses aides. Sad but true. Critical thinking is not embraced. To the comment that most nurses below that most nurses are jerks - I don't believe that is true - there are bad apples in every barrel.

[@DaniClark72]

I've been a nurse for nearly 30 years and have become very dissollusioned with the profession.

[@ZJNT]

Health and Education workers collectively are leaving in droves. Throwing money at the workers will not fix the problem. The expected workload on health workers and education workers needs to drop and people need to learn to respect these jobs and professions.

[@marcturner5809]

Nurses, paramedics and police are leaving in droves as they are not being supported by governments.

[@meagancarmichael3892]

Education too

[@JM-bg2ts]

As society has gone to the dogs, ungrateful immigrants, entitled boomers, drug addicts. 😤

[@DaniClark72]

100% And money obsessed and cost cutting nursing management.

[@Thomas-vj1mf]

And teachers...

[@truthteller313]

Police seem supported

[@jettkingsley]

I wouldn't go back even if they paid me triple salary.

[@Thomas-vj1mf]

Yes! Wouldn't go back for$160/hr.

[@teresaslocomb362]

I don’t think I would either

[@rumit9946]

Don’t forget the mind numbing paperwork and glitches in EMR

[@linehempel162]

As a RN,i could not agree môre.This job has become Extremely toxic.On Nursesday we get cake,and for the 362 days thereafter,we are bring driven like Oxen,without any regard to our humanity,all that is important is the money that the hospital generates.

[@kaneo67]

ahh awesome! you mentioned the hoax in code...nice one legend :)

[@delfine7163]

I fortunately that is 21st century culture - not only in nursing but many other jobs that require interactions with other people. Bullying in workplaces is rife. Sad world we live in!

[@violettabicycletta331]

Judging by the comments below it looks as if nurses are not valued ... some people are so ignorant of the amount of work that nurses cover in their daily working lives ... comments such as " they just take your vitals ... big deal". The more ignorant ... the more nasty !!!

[@Kuleen0415]

Lol, some even assume that nurses are there to make your tea/coffee and they dont have any other job to do😅

[@Howardlifts]

Remember the dancing nurses during covid

[@jercasgav]

@@Howardlifts During covid those were mostly nurses that were in areas like elective surgery. If you don't recall, they cancelled elective surgery and all kinds of things out of fear of covid. They were actually cancelling shifts/hours for nurses as the census was low in those "non mandatory/emergency" areas of healthcare. But normally when patients are actually being cared for that need care it is madness how low the staffing to patient ratio is so the bloated administration of the hospital can make their big salaries and push pencils. We could legit get rid of at least half of hospital business admin and hire more on the floor docs, nurses, techs, etc to take good care of patients instead! Public schools and many corps in general suffer from this same issue. Anyways, in regards to the dancing nurses that perhaps were not in elective healthcare areas during covid that were shut down...I have no clue who those people were. Never knew of a single one...we were busy here in Colorado, USA.

[@AA-yc9dq]

@@Howardliftsyou got dumped by a nurse, huh?😂

[@Howardlifts]

@jercasgav that's good to know I just thought it was in bad taste.

[@perpetualgrin5804]

I retired 6 years ago, you get sick of the sick. Grateful, Doctors always treated me well.

[@PurpleDoritos666]

Youre lucky. Ive seen doctors make nurses cry

[@grahamtempleton6479]

Far more valuable than a politician. Should at least be paid the same as a back bencher.

[@philmusson1265]

If only it was the nurses who decided and not the back benchers. The politicians in this country are scumbags, each and every one of them

[@MKSouthernStar]

Coersion is not consent

[@kaneo67]

ahh awesome! you mentioned the hoax in code...nice one legend :)

[@lauraarmstrong3168]

You are right and the more people realize they were coerced, the better that they will be able to stand up for themselves the next time it happens.

[@Dan-jt9ji]

People can't afford a house, let alone rent, why should they contribute to a system that does not support them.

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

100%

[@trueblue2010]

You haven't mentioned the wonderful nurses they have sacked for not taking the. jab. Ridiculous.

[@adele1993]

They have their integrity… & their health. God bless them.

[@jennenewhitaker1284]

It was discrimination on medical grounds ILLEGAL

[@willx6394]

Because they helped push it on everyone and shame everyone else

[@julie-annbennett2037]

Yes and I'm one of the 75,000 former nurses who have left. Never thought I would but I'm never going back.

[@jpowers7320]

My hospital let me stay because of religious reasons.

[@rossbaker9721]

I’ve also seen bullying in nursing especially to new grads and it’s awful, and there is no accountability.

[@jjoyce46]

Same thing happening here in the US!!

[@diosadeamore]

Nurses and Doctors need to work a regular 8hr shift already !!!! Security Guards employed on all floors.

[@akiicomber3496]

100% agree

[@MrCav74]

Maybe time to look at the woke end of town and ask them why they allow these people who assault health care and emergency personnel to walk free the next day.

[@stt6347]

I actually started on $33 an hr as a Registered Nurse. So glad I left ED, I have a work life balance now and not constantly having anxiety and panic attacks thinking about work. The risks and abuse and low pay we go through are not worth it and I wish someone's told me before I completed the 3 yrs degree. Not to mention the HECs and interest im stuck with....

[@Zee1998-c4w]

Hi, can i ask what type of job do you do now? U said you left nursing

[@lucyberger7625]

I am a nurse in Melbourne, I am in my 5th year and I am certainly not on 90k. More like 68k and thats with a post graduate specialisation....

[@MilfxHunter782]

With so much education for that career that’s not fair . One of my friend is working as a bar manager in the cbd Sydney is making more. Even restaurants supervisor or bar supervisor are making like 70 k excluding tips.

[@elliskaranikolaou2550]

@@MilfxHunter782 no they arent, the average salaries stated on this video are absolutely bogus and inflated.

[@oic1968]

I feel you I have two 4yr degrees with hons and specialized area..

[@Zee1998-c4w]

But when i search online, it says salary is between 80k -90k per year in australia. How come you get paid less, are u enrolled nurse

[@lucyberger7625]

@@Zee1998-c4w no I’m a registered nurse with a post grad certificate in Perianaesthetic nursing. I am now a clinical nurse specialist who makes more than the average nurse per hour. My annual wage now will be closer to $83k per annum BEFORE tax. I get taxed about 1k per fortnight and take home around $2200 a fortnight after tax.

[@em.ily287]

I’m a 4th year RN that is looking for an escape as soon as financially viable. Feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place with a mortgage and other financial commitments, but I do not enjoy my job and feel like my 4 years of University, including a further 12 months for critical care specialisation, was a waste of time and money. I have over 25K hecs debt and barely make enough money to buy food at the end of the fortnight. If I could I’d walk away tomorrow. Something needs to change.

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

I work as an Allied Health professional and couldn't agree more that all the study we do feels like a waste of time and money in the end. I worked in the hospitals, paid $25 for parking a day. The doctors look down through their noses at you. There is so much pressure to work overtime without extra pay. I quit and started a business with my husband. If ever I have to go back and work I will take a pay cit if I have to - never going back to working in health it is the most toxic environment and no one is supportive of one another, just everyone trying to blame him other for stuff ups when really it comes down to burn out, lack of resources, arrogant doctors and higher management etc. Best thing I did was leave .

[@Thomas-vj1mf]

Sorry, nothing will change. Leave and go on welfare if you must. I did.

[@Garbagefly]

Being pitted between petty coworkers and terrible managers is too toxic for any pay

[@c.evans1804]

Some are also leaving because of workplace injuries from unsafe environments and injuries inflicted by violent patients!

[@galegrazutis964]

I am on dialisis 3 days a week. And going into psychiatric care. I have seen what happens withthese violet crack heads. Than goodness for private health cover. My mother says it's the only bill she doesn't mind paying!

[@TheMonochord]

Talk about the nurses mandated out of the job they love by the gene jab

[@insomniafiles6973]

I am a nurse...but if I had the power to turn back time, I would have picked a different carreer.... why? Coz times have changed - a lot of patients have become more disrespectful (I already have been kicked, hit in the face, and spitted on by patients...and add to that the verbal abuse I get) ..... also the capitalist interest of healthcare companies have stretched the nurse to patient ratio to a "burn-out" level. Moreaover, malpractice lawyers are on the lookout for cases that they can take to make a profit.... so for one's peace of mind, think twice before going into nursing

[@AussieAngel826]

I was thankful to have great nurses during my heart attack they should get paid so much for the incredible work they do

[@kaneo67]

ahh awesome! you mentioned the hoax in code...nice one legend :)

[@manojcherian3914]

Did they save your life. Nurses just follow the doctors instructions.

[@AussieAngel826]

@@manojcherian3914 they got me through a terrifying experience they took wonderful care of me. Grateful to them & the doctors. They were up at exhausting hours with a whole ward of patients they deserve a raise

[@kardonay]

Tell me you know nothing about the job without telling me you know nothing about the job.@@manojcherian3914

[@JLjljljljl989]

@@manojcherian3914 some doctors I work with do not function well in a stressful situation like a Stemi. If it weren’t for skilled nurses helping them we would have had poor patient outcomes

[@beckyp8914]

We give so much of ourselves emotionally that sometimes we don’t have enough left for our families or even ourselves.

[@MisPhit-kh7vu]

You think that is bad, try being a tech, CNA, or medical assistant to nurses... paid 1/3 of what they get paid, have double the patient amounts, and work more hours.$15-$20/hr vs $45-$80/hr... yeah OK.

[@devraga9612]

This is fundamentally related to health care funding cuts. If you pay pittance, you won't attract staff. NHS is a good example.

[@mazza712]

Also forced to have vaccination such as covid and influenza

[@Chatterbox-94]

I work in healthcare. I can promise you it’s an exhausting profession. The abuse we deal with by insubordinate ungrateful patients is awful, and the pay is not worth the exhausting time and energy we put into our jobs.

[@Kuleen0415]

This is so true! Because even the manager of the ward where i work at isn’t supportive of her staff… it seems like she is just in the position to please the higher ups… but addressing safe skill mix/staffing in the ward, manager doesn’t care!

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

This was my experience as well in multiple hospitals.

[@meh9045]

Working in health is a scam, I hate my job, I hate my boss I wish I chose to study engineering instead Doesn’t matter if you’re a nurse, doctor or allied health it’s underpaid and awful

[@energybynature502]

One Specialist asked me who cleans the patients after they go to the bathroom. She's been a Dr longer than she's been alive and she has no idea what Nurses ACTUALLY have to do. She had no idea the Nurse was the one who takes the pt to the toilet, showers them and cleans them Most unthankful profession.

[@d3r3kyasmar]

Hospitals will hire nurses from other countries.

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

Albo I'll say let's bring in another 680, 000 immigrants this year.

[@christina7215]

In western countries I don’t want 3rd world nurses. I want White nurses. Yes it makes a difference

[@shyamchabra5355]

Nurses are not the only ones who are fleeing. I completed a diploma of teaching at University of South Australia some years ago, and the same applied.

[@arrosconpollo1]

Been a nurse for 24 years. I have advised my children to NEVER go into nursing. From violent and inappropriate patients to moronic middle and upper management…it’s ridiculous. Add to that some of the man hating Florence Nightingale types and it’s just not worth it unless you do your ICU time and go into anesthesia.

[@radiumtheatre]

Really appreciate the way ex-nurse pushed back on 'even sex work' framing with several reasons why it's less demeaning than nursing conditions & well paid

[@qp1752]

100% and good point!

[@LovaLova808]

Yep, a sex worker is more respected than a nurse!

[@darkhorseman8263]

By design. The LNP and Labor want to Americanize our health care system.

[@KJxxoo]

Where are these retail manager jobs that pay $145,000?

[@Bebedollie]

Exactly 💯

[@henrybriskin6393]

Not retail managers but the owners of the retail stores may make this much

[@hazelem1266]

I retired in June last year after 48 years of nursing. I laughed, I cried but I loved it at the same time. The amount of money paid to nurses, coupled with the lack of privileges all hospitals provide, makes me wonder why nurses stay so long in the profession. Even the meagre Covid allowance was an insult for putting one’s life on the line.

[@TomIslav-o7l]

Talk about the nurses who were sacked for not taking the vaccine 👍

[@kayaba8702]

I have been an RN for over 50 years. Trained in London, worked in Germany. Learned German, speaks and write fluent German.Worked on an ENT ward, after 4 years was elected to be a NUM. Doctors and nurses very supportive. After 12 years, migrated to Sydney. Worked a year on Ward for a year, then joined OT where I worked for 31 years. Fully enjoyed my working life. Never had a mortgage, have a husband with 2 children, now adults. I wanted to return 2-3 days per week but Covid kicked in, that was a good reason to say “ Auf Wiedersehen”. Now enjoying my retirement. Sorry to hear about what my colleagues gone through. I salary sacrificed maximum into super, smart leasing ( car) to reduce tax. Also work extra agency shifts and salary sacrifice maximum into super. At retirement, I collected a very healthy Superannuation. All in all, I was proud to be a Nurse.

[@lisamarks4651]

38 years here...I'm working as RN, but part time now

[@timf_wl]

Nurses, Teachers, Paramedics and Police are all leaving in droves for better paid, less stressful work. The essential workers in this country deserve the best pay, super, leave entitlements, and dare I say it - affordable, quality housing close to their workplace.

[@ItsWorkingTogetherForMyGood]

What jobs are they going to? Asking for a friend

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

Mining sector

[@Bebedollie]

What about the healthcare assistants and carers? They carry alot of the load and responsibility too. And if the RN on ur shift is lazy you end up doing practically everything apart from the medication. But if you have the qualifications you will be asked to do that too. Its not just about the nurses .

[@jonylawson73]

What a load of nonsense and a rather idiotic comment ..you have absolutely no legal authority ..the RN does ... unfortunately your job as a HCA is to do the menial tasks ...not the RN ..go to university and get a degree if you are that dissatisfied..otherwise make the beds and answer the call bell

[@fatherburning358]

​@@jonylawson73 I'm sorry to see you bullying a healthcare worker. May I ask what profession you are? Is this the bullying that other comments have made about RNs bullying grads? I'm currently training to be support care worker, is this the way nurses are going to try and treat me? I might just do community and let RNs bullying each other if that's the case. You make the bed

[@rossbaker9721]

We are called heroes during the pandemic, but got one of the worst pay rises after it. Considering also we are literally sometimes the difference between someone living or dying as the first point of call for recognising deterioration the remuneration isn’t Stella. Also 3-4 years of university education, and ongoing of its kind. If it were a male dominated industry we would be paid better.

[@eromnaliuqyaj6288]

I worked in Allied Health and couldn't agree more. Should have studied to be in a male dominated industry - the pay and conditions (and respect from colleagues) is so much more. Got tired of being treated as a third rate since so left and earn 3x more than I ever did in health care.

[@philipauld5069]

one main problem is the health care industry is all about money ,for corporations

[@elliskaranikolaou2550]

100%

[@DaniClark72]

Exactly!!!!!

[@michellestanvic8577]

One-word MANDATES! You got rid of the best of us! God help Australians!

[@sedulous9383]

Exactly! The ones that want to serve were kicked out and spat on!

[@TomIslav-o7l]

10000% agree, but both parties won't admit it was and now probably is because of a vaccine!

[@robertcampbell6521]

And how many left because of the safe and effective therapy they didn't want !!!

[@davidb1356]

The industry already had high attrition rates before the pandemic & mandatory COVID vaccinations. Those that left or were terminated by employers due to not following mandates at the time were relatively small in number. But keep beating your dead horse

[@kaneo67]

ahh awesome! you mentioned the hoax in code...nice one legend :)

[@kaneo67]

@@davidb1356 you are wrong and know it. what you say is correct in some ways-for sure. nursing has always been like that. the hoax intervention was the straw that broke the camels back

[@Elizabeth-qe6lk]

​@davidb1356 right so David you got the stats on that right? Any amount of nurses leaving the profession always has a flow on effect be it 20, 200 or 2000.... you cannot replace experience.

[@davidb1356]

@@Elizabeth-qe6lk NSWNMA rep said last year they’re annual attrition rate pre-COVID was approx. 20,000. I agree you can not replace experience & any loss is detrimental to the industry, but no one should be hyping an issue when it’s statistically not as significant as to others

[@ireneminzenmay4075]

Librarians definitley do NOT make 90,000. And there aren't millions of library roles. Probably about 10 in each state.

[@martinXY]

I thought it was odd, but I looked up Seek. There's a librarian position working for the AFP that pays $95,010.00 - $102,927.00 + 15.4% Superannuation. Toss in Six weeks (30 days) of paid annual leave per year + additional paid Christmas stand down, 4 extra mandatory leave rest days per year, 18 days of paid personal leave per year, and16 weeks of paid maternity leave (after 12 months of service) + an additional 36 weeks of maternity leave without pay, you're looking at a pretty sweet remuneration package.

[@delfine7163]

Not surprised, outnumbered 4:1 by foreign trainees, who speak their own languages on wards and in corridors.

[@TheChapen]

What is wrong with them speaking their own language on ward and corridor? Doe that effect how they communicate with patients? Does that lower their efficacy when doing their work?

[@markomarko494]

Nurses and allied health professionals are treated as the lowest type of worker in private hospitals (treated like fast-food workers). They are all pushed to work longer, not paid overtime, promised time off that does not eventuate , constantly threatened with termination. The pay rate is terrible and far worse now with inflation and zero pay rises in the private hospital sector.

[@okekeanyanna9362]

Am the last nurse in my family. None of my children, grandchildren or great grandchildren will ever go into nursing. Neverrrrrrrrr

[@traceyholt8223]

Grade 2 RN Nurse (Year 10) earns $95k plus penalty rates for nights/weekends. Grade 2 RN Graduate earns $67k. That was their 2022 rates in Victoria.

[@benjamingriswold2564]

Seriously? That's not right

[@traceyholt8223]

@@benjamingriswold2564 Teachers get paid more and we're underpaid.

[@thingamabobby]

I hate the argument that people pull out saying that we get paid more than this due to penalties. The fact that I only get $80 extra on my night shifts is absolutely nuts (I do 12hr days and 12hr nights). Who in their right mind outside of nursing would want to work night shift for only $80 extra, and that's before tax. If I'm going to do three night shifts and get a total of $220 before tax, I'd be so much better off finding another gig who pays the time and a half/double time rates, with a LOT less responsibility (ICU in Victoria). I've moved onto healthcare project work as my main income with maybe one to two shifts a month to keep skills up. My registration is being kept current due to the roles I'm taking, thankfully.

[@benjamingriswold2564]

@@thingamabobby Damn that's rough ☹️

[@Jou204]

Do you work 12 hour or 8 hour shifts?

[@noncompliant4316]

My midwife daughter was sacked because she refused a mandated medical procedure. NSW Health still insists on that procedure, despite the NSW government's removing the (illegal and immoral) requirement. There are many nurses still not employed due to that policy.

[@adele1993]

God bless her

[@noncompliant4316]

@@adele1993 Thank you, Adele. It has been tough for her, exercising her right for bodily autonomy.

[@adele1993]

@@noncompliant4316 my OT daughter was also sacked. She went with her head held high. Far better to have integrity and health than conform to deception. Truth will always prevail.

[@noncompliant4316]

@@adele1993 Indeed. I agree, Adele. The people who caved in to pressure regret it. Those who knowingly perpetrated the situation will suffer consequences too (in the grand scheme of things). Honesty and integrity and good health are never worth sacrificing. Congratulations to you and your daughter.

[@TomIslav-o7l]

God Bless & Protect her! What a champion!

[@Tibukiya]

I deeply regret becoming a nurse and choosing this profession. It feels like a waste of my five years. The environment is toxic, and the low salary is exhausting, making it difficult to maintain any passion for the work.

[@matthewlws86]

10 years here and I’m done I’m sorry. I use to love it.

[@muanthangsing7788]

Do something about international graduate doctors with years of experience in Australia (with student visa working all sorts of jobs except as a healthcare professional ) so they will be a helpful contribution to healthcare

[@danielmccann4055]

Been saying that S--- for years.

[@zenabubawah3708]

not so much of the pay but the workload, and extreme demand and abuse from families and the institutions, the abuse, no overtime pay, no breaks etc. The impact that this shortage of bedside nurses will have is those of us who now who will end up in institutions, hospitals etc will have no one to care for us if nothing is done to remedy this problem.

[@kardonay]

I'm in my 50's so I am in the fortunate position of being able to scale back to a couple of days a week. I love my job but doing it full time erodes that love.

[@justinsmith9851]

And remember they always add more it seems weekly there’s some new rule or policy or something you have to do. You have more to do than their is physically time for the. They want to say you don’t follow policy or didn’t do something that should have been done while you were trying to complete the other 100 things they want you to get done. This profession is hell

[@bronwest6984]

I am a new Grad EN nurse....did you read EN?! i can't work in ICU...i can do some tasks in ED, not all...and work on most general wards, yes I have some restrictions...but that doesn't mean I can't be of any use! oh and dare I ask for 3 days a week... as new grad.... no support for this whatsoever....yep thanks....makes me want to do my RN's right?! ahhh hell no... I would have to study x 2 years at university....do placement hours for free....yep that's right...no pay for placement.... I already didn't get paid for placement with my EN course....i was lucky it was only 80hrs for those one....RN aint go no such thing, longer and additionally no working full time.... how am I ment be able to afford that?! pull money out of the ground?! but that's ok isn't it?!!!! no supports for me at all!!!

[@jonylawson73]

Come.on ..who trains as an EN in this day and age ..

[@rometh]

even though this was 8 months ago this coverage I worked as an AIN in aged care for over five years, taking on extra responsibilities without a pay increase. Often the only senior staff on shift, I finally quit due to overwork and a toxic environment. Even though I’m unemployed now, I feel much better. It’s frustrating to see other jobs offering much more than $22 an hour for AIN work-I just need someone to give me a chance. As long as it's a safe environment, I know I can handle the work. so 8 months later healthcare staff in general not just nurses but AIN's most people dont know AIN's exist. but we are also quiting in massive numbers too.

[@jbolt758]

What librarian makes 95k a year??? Warehouses paying 35/h? Stop that nonsense

[@zakariyadar5613]

I absolutely agree, there might be problems within the medicine sector but most of the times the media industry just over exaggerates

[@jennenewhitaker1284]

Should’ve stood your ground 4 years ago I have no sympathy now I walked away I wasn’t going to be coerced into being a human trial participant

[@AviyahAbides]

I left the bedside 2016, worked from home as a nurse instead. Tried to go back to bedside and couldn’t stomach the 12hrs shift and pts burnout,,, back home to work I went 😊

[@rossbaker9721]

As a nurse at a major metro hospital, the average nurse should have gotten a better pay rise. In comparison to other professions our annual pay rises were pretty pathetic, considering the amount of actual exposure we have all had to Covid during the Pandemic and after, the staff ratio problems, and the daily exposure to potential violence and infectious diseases. Politicians don’t care about us, but they’ll use us as political props when it suits them. They haven’t been paying us well for years.

[@julie-annbennett2037]

I'm loving the comments. Validates my decision to leave. They can stick their mandates and broken system where it fits.

[@cassieoz1702]

Ask me why i quit General Practice?

[@KoalaBeer.]

Why

[@cassieoz1702]

@KoalaBeer. abusivè/threatening patients, insane hours, hours of unpaid paperwork, no vacation time (unable to get a locum). Docs are leaving general practicein droves and not being replaced. When I graduated, 65% of us became family docs. Now it's 10-12%.

[@kardonay]

I'm an RN in Aged Care so I have quite a bit to do with GP's. You guys are so undervalued by even the medical profession. You are EXPECTEd to have a working knowledge of every specialisation yet given no recognition for that. I love you guys & hope it gets better for you too :)@@cassieoz1702

[@berniebernstein]

Poor management.

[@perpetualgrin5804]

So many nurses are from China and India, management is almost 100% white.

[@christina7215]

And when Indians or other races are managers they only hired their own and give most hours to their own race… they are not good for Western countries. At all.

[@noongar1234]

so?

[@perpetualgrin5804]

@@noongar1234 Make your own assessment.

[@multioptioned]

You thinking of doctors? 😮

[@paulyuen5378]

@@noongar1234 Which means the so-called white people are not giving chances for hard workers to enter management positions

[@DavidLee-tn3mo]

Excuse me! Leaving to do sex work! Where did that left field comment come out of? Nothing against sex work - just that comment places Womens professions far back to Sarah Gump…was the comment meant to voyeuristic

[@kiashlan]

I agree 100%. That sort of comment just perpetuates the “sexy nurse” stereotype.. like we’re all blonde, busty and scantily clad like in a Benny Hill comedy. Disappointed by that question.

[@janicemacintosh5804]

A very disgusting and disrespectful comment

[@darrenleighty7574]

I'm a therapist but I work shoulder to shoulder with nurses...they are under paid and stretched too thin...the patients are entitled and many are severely menially ill. The ones staying are older and near retirement, the young ones get sick of it quickly end up back in school for something else

[@jjoyce46]

Management sees it but they just DON'T CARE!!!

[@nathanashley2693]

"they could make 145k a yr as a senior retail manager'. who writes this garbage?!

[@elliskaranikolaou2550]

Agreed the figures stated were grossly inflated.

[@henrybriskin6393]

If they owned the retail outlet its possible

[@julieharris7604]

Why would we stay??

[@MummaJo]

Sadly 35 and hour as a starting RN and childcare educators get paid higher at around 37 or so, I’d rather have the chaos in childcare than ever returning to nursing

[@CarolineOwens-s1h]

Been a stay at home mom since 2019 before covid hit and never looking back. My health took a toll for years in nursing. Taking 24 patients as a cna for 17 an hour is insane . Never again

[@jasmines.6325]

Its very draining, they should be paid full time for part time work.

[@christinehill8611]

I am with you nurses!

[@adennega556]

I love being a nurse but the abuse you go through on a corporate level truly burns you out. It’s so hard nowadays with the combination of lack of strong management, lack of support, lack of proper PPE for diseases, increased liability and higher patient acuity…. Nursing is definitely starting to suffer and I’m scared for future patient outcomes.

[@multioptioned]

How many jobs are fairly remunerated according to the importance of the work done? You think hosts on the project deserve over half a million dollars per year for part time jobs? 😂 Teachers and nurses are more important.

[@JonathanRodriguez-bx3hm]

so much easier to be a teacher and nurse than to be selected as hosts.

[@britishuntouchables2883]

Hire nurses from overseas.

[@dlourdes4743]

the administration ignores nurses complaints of CNA being disrespectful to RN and LPN

[@joekirby4707]

It's not the pay It's the overworking of staff.

[@factstology]

oh don't worry, filipino immigrant nurses are coming to rescue Straya

[@multioptioned]

Same as immigrant doctors. Does Australia even train medical staff or just import them? 😮

[@JenniferLouise-rd8gk]

As a CNA, with the amount of sexual harassment I encounter every day from patients, I’m already feeling like a glorified sex worker. For $18 an hour. 🥺

[@hikinggirl1601]

She did not mention the high patients to nurse ratio with high expectations from management. They need to lower the amount of patients to nurses.

[@ChappelleLife]

Not sure about anybody else but more than half the time I as the RN ...I am working as the tech, the receptionist, the phlebotomist, and psychiatrist...techs go missing or constantly leave because they realize they can make the same money doing less at MCDONALD'S...same with phlebotomy they realize they are the only one drawing blood for the entire hospital then don't show up the next day. And as for the receptionist, my hospital doesn't staff them after 11pm....so we take on all these roles all for the same pay ...all while being abused. The patients and family members don't care...or even realize the work that we do, and have no problem with unloading all things on you-including their psych issues.

[@Kuleen0415]

Addit: cleaner+tea&coffee maker too😫

[@drkarenbukharibukhari9931]

NHS staff ⚕️ are angelsyof life