NVIDIA DLSS 4 vs 3 COMPARED Which Is Better | NVidia DLSS 4 Comparison | Nvidia DLSS 4 Perf Upgrade

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Dee Batch

Dee Batch

Күн бұрын

#dlss4 #nvidia #pcgaming
Today I benchmark games running DLSS 4 vs DLSS 3. The results will shock you and cause you to think twice about a 5000 series Upgrade. I also show how you can upgrade to the latest DLSS 4 files.
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@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
You should watch this test if upgrading to a 5000 series GPU. Benchmarks start at 8:03 Do you think Perf Mode on DLSS 4 looks better than Quality Modeo on DLSS 3? If you like this type of content hit the like button and I will do more.
@yinandyanggamers
@yinandyanggamers 8 күн бұрын
The update is available now ?? I think is not worth to buy 50series if you have the 4090 or 4080 but if you are a enthusiastic and dont care buy and enjoy your new card !!!
@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83
@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83 8 күн бұрын
What monitor are you using bro?
@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83
@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83 8 күн бұрын
If your running a 7800x3d/4090 and your monitor is a 4k/144hz. And you don't plan on upgrading your monitor, Getting a 5090 would be pointless for you bro. Especially with DLSS4 out now. Nice vid bro!
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
@@REALGAMERREINCARNATE83 ya kinda think the same but native stuff I would get a boost. I dont have a 7800x3d though. I have a 7900X. Guna get a 9900x3d or 9950x3d. Lets see I can sell my 4090 FE for a good price anyways to offset
@IBelieveInTheGYAT
@IBelieveInTheGYAT 8 күн бұрын
@DeeBatch don't worry the ps5 pro with RDNA 4 features is so future proof it will last till 2030 and still be better than DLSS 8. We are living in a clown society
@dscb81
@dscb81 8 күн бұрын
My 4090 eating good for another two or three years now. 😎
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
lol
@Milkilito
@Milkilito 8 күн бұрын
Mine too, and people dared to call me crazy for buying it at launch. I've been enjoying highest frames for the past 2 years already. Cheers to another 2-3 years. 🍾
@klayze6952
@klayze6952 8 күн бұрын
I‘ll keep my 4090 as well. The 5090 seems like a 4090 super/ Ti. Furthermore I don’t have to upgrade my psu :D
@ycageLehT
@ycageLehT 8 күн бұрын
Definitely better, especially in motion.
@chrismanning9336
@chrismanning9336 7 күн бұрын
💯
@WarlockOvermind
@WarlockOvermind 8 күн бұрын
DLSS4 P looks really close to DLSS3 Q and sometimes even better, this is amazing, it's by far much more interesting than the new FG.
@acs1018
@acs1018 8 күн бұрын
Why amazing if the framerate dlss4 perfomance is same as dlss3 quality cek again
@xviii5780
@xviii5780 8 күн бұрын
@@acs1018 it's not the same
@mattsouza1448
@mattsouza1448 8 күн бұрын
@@acs1018 only games that are you CPU is Limiting the FPS, you can see this only one game on the video.
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
It really is!
@starstreamgamer3704
@starstreamgamer3704 7 күн бұрын
At 1440p new Balanced preset now looks better than old Quality and very similar to old native 1440p + DLAA. That is the real game changer.
@mellowistaken
@mellowistaken 2 күн бұрын
You guys can also apply it globally with the new Nvidia inspector xml, meaning theres no real need for dlss swapper anymore
@arielis78
@arielis78 8 күн бұрын
I have no doubt Nvidia will implement MFG at least on 40 series cards. I don't think they want to cannibalize their sales, so they came up with a lame reason as to why it's only available on 50 series. Mark my words, once the sales start dieing down and Lossless Scaling keeps on improving with updates and taking market share from Nvidia, they will suddenly find a way to make MFG work on 40 cards.
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
yup 40 series will get it.
@hamzakhalil-gs7oc
@hamzakhalil-gs7oc 8 күн бұрын
Yea lossless FG is amazing due to it im planning to buy a 240 hz monitor, I can easily use it to reach 240 or 360 fps in any game as long as I have 60 fps and the input lag isn't even noticable for me, I have a 4070 super and I still prefer lossless FG over dlss FG (Haven't tried the newer model) but I will say dlss FG has less artifacts. But one thing I hate is how most of the time lossless FG doesn't work properly out of the box, I need to do few steps in each start up of my PC to make it work flawlessly.
@spuldzexx
@spuldzexx 7 күн бұрын
40 series don't have hardware for proper frame pacing for MFG
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
@@spuldzexx it will probably get X2 MFG not X4. Nvidia did not rule it out said right now they focusing on 50 series. Edit I meant x3 FG X2 is what we get now so MFG is X3 X4 to clarify.
@spuldzexx
@spuldzexx 7 күн бұрын
@DeeBatch yes, it will, as You mentioned, just 2X tech. But does that count as MFG?
@cgkratos.i
@cgkratos.i 3 күн бұрын
It looks close but does it depend on your native resolution, Imagine I was running a game in 1080p with DlssP vs DlssQ would it look this good.
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 3 күн бұрын
good question I guess it would scale but at 1080p is lower res so it would not be as sharp period
@Bry.89
@Bry.89 2 күн бұрын
Your video is misleading a bit, as it doesn't provide the full scope of requirements in activating presets. v310.1 isn't _just_ DLSS4. It's an aggregate variant stored within nvidia drivers that stores the most up to date version of _every_ preset currently available. That means it holds both CNN presets and Transformer presets. So some games, even if you swap out the DLL file to the latest, still won't use the Transformer model and require extra intervention by changing a few settings in Nvidia Profile Inspector. In fact, many games don't even require the DLSS Swapper at all, since merely changing a few flags in nvidia profile inspector will allow you to bypass the game file version and use the latest version of DLSS already stored in the latest nvidia drivers. That's how the nvidia app DLSS Override works in the first place. However, within DLSS Swapper's latest version, you can use a cool setting that will help you figure out if you set it up correctly. Going into DLSS Swapper's settings, looking for "DLSS Developer Options" and from the pulldown menu select "Enable for all DLSS DLLs" and an overlay will appear next time you open any game with DLSS enabled in it, telling you what your current preset and version is. It should say "Preset J" or "Preset K" meaning you're on the correct version for DLSS4. If it says anything else, even if it has the latest DLL version, it's not DLSS4.
@Captain-Chats
@Captain-Chats 8 күн бұрын
Great video, i have a 4080 and i dont think ill be upgrading i do however have an oled 32 inch 240 hz monitor. From the 4090 to the 5090 if it was me no way you need to upgrade. When does the update for all cards to DLSS 4 go live??
@Fantomas24ARM
@Fantomas24ARM 8 күн бұрын
30th of january officially, but the 571.96 driver was leaked like a week ago.
@mattsouza1448
@mattsouza1448 8 күн бұрын
@@Fantomas24ARM actually they are on 572 already. waiting to see the changes on NIVIDIA APP
@Stezell
@Stezell 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, this made a huge difference with Indiana Jones while playing maxed out fully ray-traced.
@IstyManame
@IstyManame 7 күн бұрын
So when you swap dlss version in games other than cyberpunk does it use CNN model or the new transformer model?
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
you can force the Transformer model with j preset. You can also fo around with the new CNN. I have not tried new CNN version in dlss 4 yet
@dikkie1120
@dikkie1120 8 күн бұрын
The rtx 5000 serie is a HUGE disappoinment
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 6 күн бұрын
It's a practically POINTLESS generation of GPUs. Doesn't even need to exist.
@GT1GT
@GT1GT 8 күн бұрын
This is officially getting released on January 30th 2025... just saying. If I can make a suggestion can you please put the names of the games tested in the suggestions or in the comments as well, thx.
@AndrzejDryniewicz
@AndrzejDryniewicz 7 күн бұрын
hi when new drivers out for 40 series gpu?
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 6 күн бұрын
Today. January 30.
@mrmrgaming
@mrmrgaming 8 күн бұрын
If you have an old GPU, by all means get a 5000s. If you have a 4070/4080, there is a reason to change if you really want to. If you have a 4090, there is little to no reason to upgrade. The only way a 5080 beats the 4090 is with FG x3/x4, but the 5080 lacks the raw power the 4090 has, and it lacks Vram. If you like mods on your games, 4k mod textures, the 5080 is a no-go, but Nvidia did have to hold off on Vram, so there is another reason for a 5090. Usually, there are one or two games near the launch of a card that makes Nvidia say, "If you want the game to look like this, you must have one of these new cards" This time around, there is nothing. They are still using Cyberpunk to sell the cards. The games out this year are all well within a 4090s reach, and with DLSS 4, it's a done deal now. I, for one, someone who normally buys cards on launch, am skipping the 5000s and waiting for the 6000s.
@kabtnimahdi9000
@kabtnimahdi9000 7 күн бұрын
if you have an old gpu get a used 4080 5080 is just not worth it and it will be 1200+
@AzizurRahman-zi6jn
@AzizurRahman-zi6jn 7 күн бұрын
4070 released on april 13 2023 and you are telling me to upgrade ??? .. Some people are still using their 2080 ti
@mrmrgaming
@mrmrgaming 7 күн бұрын
@@AzizurRahman-zi6jn It's down to the games you play, what you want from your PC gaming and most importantly, cost. Some people hang on a few gens, some change every gen. My point for the 5000s is that there is a smaller reason to swap, and if you have a 4090, there is almost zero reason.
@AzizurRahman-zi6jn
@AzizurRahman-zi6jn 6 күн бұрын
@ 5070 is only 12 gb .. I don't see any special reason why anyone should upgrade ..
@mrmrgaming
@mrmrgaming 6 күн бұрын
@@AzizurRahman-zi6jn A 5070 is great 1080p/1440p, but for someone who likes to add mods to their games or play at 4k, nope.
@jurassicplays7
@jurassicplays7 6 күн бұрын
is it safe to update dlss in call of duty mw2 (2022) i heard you can get banned but the base dlss in mw2 is blurry and bad
@SanyamGoswami-s6d
@SanyamGoswami-s6d 6 күн бұрын
Bro i have rtx 3050 💀 will i still get fps boost even tho i dont have the support of dlss fg as mentioned by nvidia
@manavtyagiii
@manavtyagiii 6 күн бұрын
Yes
@Neonmirrorblack
@Neonmirrorblack 8 күн бұрын
"Nuh-vidia". 😢 This now becoming the new "T I" vs "Tie"? It's short for Titanium, and even Jensen has repeatedly called it "T I". Just like he pronounces his company's name as "In-Vidia". Anyway, the Transformer DLSS model looking as good as it does even in Performance mode is why I just decided to skip the 50 generation that is pretty much a lemon anyway. On a 4080 Super, and I just decided to just upgrade from a 1440p IPS to a 4K OLED. I can wait it out until the 60 series, which should be more efficient, produce less heat and see more than a 30% performance boost. The real reason to get a 5090 is if you care about Path Tracing, which very few games currently have. Future games will, but by the time there's more than a handful, the 60 series will be here. The 50 series is the 20 series all over again, where you're paying early adopter tax for features not widely implemented yet. Difference being this time though is that the 5090 comparatively has a horrible price to performance.
@WackNoir
@WackNoir 4 күн бұрын
tbh bro they could bring multi frame gen to the 40 series cards as well ltr down the road. So 40 series cards ftw
@dalkospero1345
@dalkospero1345 8 күн бұрын
I'm trying to🕵🏻‍♂
@TommyBull2
@TommyBull2 7 күн бұрын
man people saying the pro isn't a significant upgrade. I see no must have reason to upgrade from a 4080 tho. 6080 is the one.
@WheeledHamster
@WheeledHamster 2 күн бұрын
The less I hear about these unicorns 5000s card the better.
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 2 күн бұрын
lol
@vangoghoff5521
@vangoghoff5521 8 күн бұрын
Maybe that's the plan, high prices for the 5090, appease gamers with DLSs 4, drop in gamers buying new cards, then Nvidia can say there was no interest in gaming market for new cards and say they will focus on AI instead? A total get out of jail free card.
@xviii5780
@xviii5780 8 күн бұрын
They don't have to explain themselves to anyone if they want to focus on ai
@vangoghoff5521
@vangoghoff5521 7 күн бұрын
@xviii5780 maybe a sorry as we know we grew on U but now we are not interested in gaming but maybe that's what the DLSs 4 is. Time will tell.
@IstyManame
@IstyManame 7 күн бұрын
Brother they don't need gamers' permission they can just drop us whenever they want if they actually decide that it's more profitable. For now it makes them enough money and allows utilize spare materials on worse chips than their ai ones
@OzzyFan80
@OzzyFan80 7 күн бұрын
Don't like don't buy it.
@K0nan-k4b
@K0nan-k4b 7 күн бұрын
Where do you set the preset?
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 6 күн бұрын
Nvidia Profile Inspector.
@nealrahangdale1194
@nealrahangdale1194 8 күн бұрын
bro i have the same stuttering as you in cyberpunk
@1000kaystacks
@1000kaystacks 7 күн бұрын
Is there a Dlss 4 quailty mode ?
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
yes
@Jolly-Green-Steve
@Jolly-Green-Steve 8 күн бұрын
3NM 6000 series will be out in a year. 5000 series is not worth upgrading. I'm waiting till 7000 series in 2028 for true next gen upgrade from my 1070 TI 8GB.
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
6000 series will not be in a year, 6000 will be in 2 years
@Jolly-Green-Steve
@Jolly-Green-Steve 7 күн бұрын
@@DeeBatch Nvidia already stated last year Rubin aka 6000 series is late 25(computing farms)/early 26(gaming). So Jan 26 is true next gen from 4000 series by dropping to 3nm. I'm waiting till Jan 2028 for 2nm 7000 series. Then you will get a 5090 as a 7070 TI at 275watts.
@kaktus4734
@kaktus4734 7 күн бұрын
So is dlss 4 available now?
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
via the dlss swapper, I linked in the video yes. But it comes for everyone later today or tomorrow
@junnyd3587
@junnyd3587 7 күн бұрын
dlss 4 will only be available for certain game but the swapper works to any game that has dlss just like i have dlss4 on read dead 2
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
@@junnyd3587 correct but you will be able too do it globally when they update the drivers
@lalito9038
@lalito9038 2 күн бұрын
i try rdr2 with dlss 4 performance mode and i have less fps than with dlss 3.8 quality mode.
@pikkiacca
@pikkiacca 8 күн бұрын
DLSS swapper for dlss4 + lossless scaling frame generator x3 is the best way for the gaming
@Eddy_Stylez
@Eddy_Stylez 7 күн бұрын
That lossless scaling app is absolute dogshit. It's software frame gen, so latency and visual artifacting will be horrendous. It's for people with 30 series RTX cards and lower that don't have hardware frame gen support.
@roger3292
@roger3292 7 күн бұрын
Lossless scaling is ass but I used it for hell divers the latency is pretty noticeable
@bet9898
@bet9898 7 күн бұрын
@@roger3292 i use it for tears of the kingdom, its a god send along with my 4070 . i dont think its meant for newer games. but decent app if u know how to use it
@GXtera
@GXtera 7 күн бұрын
@@Eddy_Stylez yeah its terrible, the smearing is badddd
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 6 күн бұрын
"30% increase in performance with the 5090." Yeah, I don't know about all that, guy. From all the benchmark videos I've seen, saying "15-30% increase in performance with the 5090" is being EXTREMELY generous.
@Eddy_Stylez
@Eddy_Stylez 7 күн бұрын
Sir. DLSS 4 is only fully supported on 50 series cards. Each version of DLSS (2,3, and 4) have hardware restricted features that the previous generation of card does not support. 40 series cards only support Single Frame Generation. Only the 50 series cards will support MULTI Frame Generation.
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
Dude DLSS 4 is more than just MFG 😂
@Eddy_Stylez
@Eddy_Stylez 7 күн бұрын
@@DeeBatch Yeah I'm a dumbass. I've been researching all morning and realize I was wrong about my understanding of it. I thought DLSS versions were locked into each generation of card, and not backwards compatible.
@piranhax6466
@piranhax6466 8 күн бұрын
my 4090 playing cyberpunk, didnt really notice a difference with the transfomer dlss mode on cyberpunk..
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 7 күн бұрын
you run it in perf its same as quality from dlss 3 but with better fps
@piranhax6466
@piranhax6466 7 күн бұрын
​@@DeeBatchoh
@IBelieveInTheGYAT
@IBelieveInTheGYAT 8 күн бұрын
Don't worry guys PSSR is already 5 generations ahead of DLSS😂
@m.m.3753
@m.m.3753 8 күн бұрын
Hmm not really but impressive. Also without Tensorcores.. and i dont know A.I. super goof technic Specials.
@IBelieveInTheGYAT
@IBelieveInTheGYAT 8 күн бұрын
@m.m.3753 I'm joking because Dee said the pro had RDNA 4 features
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
It does my guy it has RDNA 4 RT and ML Ai capabilities. keep up
@m.m.3753
@m.m.3753 8 күн бұрын
​@@DeeBatchyeah they can native 4k120 + AA, WE know
@IBelieveInTheGYAT
@IBelieveInTheGYAT 8 күн бұрын
@ no tensor cores, it’s still full RDNA 2🤡
@7ens3nButt0n
@7ens3nButt0n 8 күн бұрын
bro why do you switch the sides mid video 😭i was like wow dlss4 is weaker than dlss3
@DeeBatch
@DeeBatch 8 күн бұрын
lol only the first video was on diff side
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