Nvidia Riva TNT2 retro review

[@RaimarLunardi]

I had a TNT2 M64 until 2005 !! I played GTA VC on it at about 20fps... good times... lol

[@64h29]

I remember back then, eagerly awaiting and then replacing a Riva TNT 1 with a Rive TNT 2 Ultra (Diamond Viper V770 Ultra). It made such a big difference I had the feeling I was blown into another century early.

[@Wil3vlbc9gvk604]

Keep the good work, your chanel is pure gold.

[@philscomputerlab]

+Wilson Ricardo Thank you!

[@TheExaminedLifeofGaming]

My first computer had a TNT2 M64, paired with an AMD Duron 600. It worked fine for the games I had at the time, basically MechWarrior 2, Half-Life, Starcraft, etc, but was very quickly obsolete as I started to play more PC games. :)

[@christopherbartleson8918]

I just purchased a computer for 20 dollars with an AMD Athlon 1700+ Palomino Core with an Nvidia TNT2 M64, I'm definitely planning on upgrading away from this.

[@soylentgreenb]

I had the same in a pentium III 600 MHz slot 1 computer for longer than reasonable and the TNT2 M64 was fine; it was CPU bound most of the time; the only really obnoxious thing was when you had a bunch of overlayed translucent sprites. Then performance would really, really tank; otherwise it would be CPU bound anyway. When Counter-strike was a new and relevant game, you could hear who the TNT2-and-lower users were by the complaints when you threw a smoke grenade :-). I had a dirt cheap MX440 for a while in the same system and that was a fairly decent image quality uplift but it didn't really help performance unless there was a tonne of sprites. I went from that to my first self-built system, which was a pentium 4 2.4C, which was in a brief interval where the pentium 4 was actually pretty competive, before AMDs K8 trickled down from servers to desktops. I upgraded to a 9800 pro after a while and I'm convinced that is the largest single jump in image quality ever; you could just set anisotropic filtering to 16x and not worry about it; across the board. I *hated* straight bilinear texture filtering and I still do. I'd rather have nearest filtering, shimmering mess and all like the original DOS quake.

[@theov3rmind]

I love your videos man! Thanks for all the awesome retro hardware nostalgia!

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks!

[@sgtjarhead99]

I bought the Creative Lab TnT2 Ultra as soon as it came out. It was a great card. One of my sentimental favorites.

[@soylentgreenb]

@Terry Connor I would say it was a the TNT2 M64 that was the real 3DFX slayer. That card was in every damned lower-end OEM system ever; it gave the OEM the ability to tick the 2D and 3D acceleration boxes in one cheap card that was barely more expensive than a standalone 2D graphics card. Most things were CPU bound back then unless you *really* cranked the resolution; it would give acceptable performance in 800x600 in most games where as a voodoo 3 or TNT2 ultra or whatever would only give you one more resolution step at the same framerate.

[@bobzeepl]

I remember overclocking my M64 to clocks above those of a stock Ultra. There seemed to be no limit to how much I could overclock it, it was a one in a million specimen. When I was replacing the card after a year or two, the PCB around the chip was BROWN, burnt, but the card itself was still ok :D

[@oldschooldude8370]

Never owned a tnt2. Had a tnt, then a v3 3000 followed by a GeForce 2 gts. Enjoyed the video 👍

[@beardedretroguy6428]

There was an official update patch for Final Fantasy VII for PC that altered the rendering engine to work on TNT2 cards. It bypasses the 8-bit palletized textures requirement. So yes, FF7 will work perfectly fine on a Riva TNT2 card.

[@AtariBorn]

My new PC build (not cannibalized hand-me-down parts) was an Athlon 500 and I initially had a TNT2 and it was great but I later picked up a Voodoo 3 3000 and what a world of difference. I hadn't used a 3DFX card since the Voodoo 2 and I didn't think there would be much of a difference between the TNT2 and Voodoo 3 because they were both modern cards but I was dead wrong. The Voodoo 3 ran everything so much smoother and it seemed like every game I ran was tailor made for the Voodoo back then. The TNT2 was OK and blew my friends original TNT out of the water but once I experienced the Voodoo 3, there was no turning back. The video quality may have been better on the TNT2 but I never noticed, I was too busy running 3D games on my Voodoo 3 without it breaking a sweat. Later, I upgraded to a Voodoo 4 4000 and swapped out my Athlon 500 for an 800 (and upgraded my RAM from 128 MB to 768 MB, I believe) and never had any reason to look elsewhere for a video card. Everything just worked great. Half-life, Unreal Tournament, Quake 3, Carmageddon 2/3 etc. Ran flawlessly on my setup and I was convinced that it couldn't get better than it was. I took my break from the PC world shortly after and didn't get back in until I built an Athlon 64 X2 6000+ but I'll always remember how perfect gaming was back when I had my Athlon / Voodoo setup. I think you may have tried the TNT2 back in the day but you would have realized, after trying a Voodoo 3, the difference in performance was night and day. Just my opinion.

[@nicholas-k8j]

well done i was stuck with a celeron Pga socket on chip 433 with 64meg sd133 ram and this ultra low budget Abit motherboard i think it just had one spare pci slot and the AGP x4 with 8 ram buffer was built in... i remember i could run unreal tornament 2000 in software render max settings perfectly a huge upgrade from my 486 that could just run quake 1. i could not however run a game called Z part 2 from bitmap brothers it was so slowwwwww. It was costing far too much to upgrade then, you could change to a pentium 3 just to get an extra 150mhz only for faster 800 chips then 1 ghz chips to be out and things just never lasted long for the huge money they cost . video editing then never worked right i remember that mediatec or something the semi pro editor that was cheap was soo buggy computers just were not powerfull enough to run it right then win xp came out later and its video editor was perfect

[@marcuslagergren5632]

This whas nostalgic. A Creative Labs 3D Blaster Riva TNT2 M64 32MB whas the first hardware part i bought with my own money. I whas 15 and had my first summer job. I had a AMD K6-II 400MHz with a Cirius Logic (Unknown chip) with 4MB and i really needed a new graphics card. And that Riva TNT2 card whas used intill i got a Palit Daytona GeForce 3 Ti 200 128MB. The best part is that i still have the card, and it still works :)

[@philscomputerlab]

Glad you liked it!

[@005AGIMA]

Had a 3dfx banshee and later a TNT2, but I hold heaps more nostalgia for the Banshee. Possibly because it was my first decent 3D card. It made such a vast difference to my gaming.

[@philscomputerlab]

I will for sure cover the Banshee at some point!

[@leroyrs]

Love those vintage hardware reports. Well done.

[@fightingforce8498]

my first graphic card back in 2000. i played half life, counter strike , Red alert 2 and Diablo 2 with this gem. 😄😄😄😄

[@krz8888888]

I lust after these card back in the days, the geek in me wanted true 32bit colors

[@nextingz]

love your channel! can't find videos about the good ol days tech anymore, I'm sure this channel will grow :)

[@philscomputerlab]

Thank you! I also wish for it to grow some more :)

[@spidermcgavenport8767]

dedicated hardware only way to binge on these games!

[@spidermcgavenport8767]

Okay here's something I'd find interesting if you can run a game at 800x600 then use the monitor or another device to upscale it to say hd 720p if you would get the same fps, motion blur, etc... and check to see if that's a possibility for a modern t.v. instead of a crt monitor? busy question I know.

[@philscomputerlab]

Most TVs have a VGA input. Just hook it up.

[@spidermcgavenport8767]

+PhilsComputerLab I was more thinking an hdmi upscaling device because my plasma doesn't have a vga input just HDMI I'm tech savvy but I'm also very cheap.

[@philscomputerlab]

Too easy. Get a card with DVI output. The TNT2 is too old, but a GeForce3 or 4 should do the trick :)

[@spidermcgavenport8767]

+PhilsComputerLab would either have 8 bit texture mapping just off the top of your head. no research needed. You know why!

[@oisiaa]

The TNT2 was my very first video card. Loved it! So powerful!

[@beanovskydurst]

Thanks, this was very helpful. I could only find a TNT2 M64 PCI card, but it was waaaay cheap to pass on it for my upgraded Compaq Presario retro gaming rig, it isn't terrible though, thanks to your video I learned how to do a mild overclock on it, and with the 3DNow! optimizations of the K6-2, Quake II (the AMD version) and D3D games like Resident Evil or Turok work great!

[@philscomputerlab]

Nice, thanks for the update!

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

I now own a Riva TNT2. So I must now watch this video.

[@marduke83]

I did almost exactly the same thing, I had a TNT2 and then took a break from computers until the ATi radeon 9800 series, and thankfully haven't looked back since. Some pretty cool content mate!

[@playtech7165]

1024x768 was the goal of that time, for W98 and 17-19 inches CRT monitor. The TNT2 ultra works amazing for the games of that era at decent fps, and more than 30fps in some OLDER games works just fine.

[@PabloB888]

All TNT2 cards were good back in 1999, but the dynamite TNT2Ultra in particular was especially impressive. This card was able to run at a core clock of 195MHz, giving 50-70% better results than regular TNT2 and even the Voodoo 3500 was sometimes slower. With 32bit color and 512x512 textures support on top of that games looked way better on TNT2 cards compared to the V3. I still remember how blurry Quake 3 looked like on Voodoo 3 cards. Not only textures looked worse (256x256 instead of 512x512), but also this (fake 22-bit) dithering filter was bluring them even further. Back then 30 fps was considered a very smooth gameplay, for example the Voodoo 1 could only hit 30fps, but people were amazied. On CRT monitor 30fps looked sharper in motion than even 120fps on LCD (you need 1000Hz LCD to match 60Hz CRT motion quality). Of course graphics cards like the V3 or TNT2 were much faster, but back then CPUs were so slow, that people were forced to play in 30fps anyway.

[@Shmbler]

The TNT2 killed the 3.3V linear voltage regulator on my mobo (a strange slot 1 BAT/ATX hybrid) back in '99. It was the only thing ever letting the smoke out on me, so I do fondly remember it probably for the rest of my life ;-)

[@ohmygod1550]

I've got a 16MB TNT2 card.

[@heythatsprettygood6492]

same

[@chrismartin5987]

is it good for a windows 98 rig?

Woooow 111 k !!! I remenber you have 1000k ! You deserve !

[@Raptor3388]

I have twenty TNT2s in my collection...18 of them are M64s...these were everywhere in the late nineties to early 2000. One of them is a little bit interesting as it is a Number Nine built TNT2 M64 with 32Mb and a DVI port only, I think they came in some IBM computers.

[@philscomputerlab]

+SuperDuty455 Yes, eBay is flooded with them...

[@Raptor3388]

Just realized I had already said that a year ago :P So I've deleted the new reply. Mines were mostly found dumpster diving or as part of cheap lots of graphics cards I buy from time to time.

[@winj3r]

When I bought my first PC, I got a TNT 2 Ultra with it. It was such a great card.

[@philscomputerlab]

+winj3r Yes it is.

[@brunorocca5391]

I have a Diamond Viper V770 (TNT2 32MB) in an Athlon XP 2400+ with 1GB RAM, works beautifully with Windows XP SP3.

[@moritzrudolf5370]

Great intro! The rest of the video is great too!

[@playtech7165]

Diamond V770 TNT 2 Ultra was my first 3d Card, amazing for the time, I really regret to have sold it.

[@michaeldale837]

My first real 3d card was a TNT2 M64 PCI. I actually loved that card. The main reason was that I was running a Pentium 133, so the M64 didn't bottleneck it! It was a great upgrade from my SiS 6326 4mb PCI and the drivers were pretty good. I remember playing HalfLife 1, certain maps worked fine at 1024x768 while others didn't even like 640x480. The Pentium 133 was really too slow. I do wonder if a Voodoo would have been better due to the lower driver overhead, but the M64 was cheap :)

[@psycho0815]

The 2000 benchmark still works on my 980ti...

[@fernandomarson]

Very good video, thanks! I will made some tests on a TNT2 "Turbo"(Gigabyte GV660 Turbo) to compare it with my Voodoo 3 3000!!

[@Maoyon28]

My first AGP Graphics card Inno3D TNT2 Riva 32mb. Thanks for the review :D

[@damiandamiano6377]

i had pc with this card for 4 years and i was able to play anything , probably best card back in 2000

[@sali-ali]

RIVA TNT 2 32MB was my first GPU and I used it up until 2005.

[@Just_a_Lad]

Lol, I love how switching to 32 bit colors used to kill the FPS's on cards back then. :D

[@Leptospirosi]

You should to a video about 3DLabs Permedia 2, ATI Rage 3D and equivalent cards

[@3dfxLover]

You missed out a timeperiod after Voodoo II too? I now can understand your motivation to make these videos. It's similar to mee. I missed out the technical upgrades since this Riva TNT2 Card 1999 up to a Geforce FX 5200 2004, I had a Diamond Monster V770 (non ultra) which is 2nd last in your test here right?

[@WaybackTECH]

I loved my Viper V770 Ultra card. Still have the box, software and manuals. Stupid me, I gave it away in a build many many years ago. I will get another card at some point. I have my eye on one that is bundled with a Voodoo 2 and the guy has no idea what he is really selling, which means way cheaper than usual for a Viper V770 Ultra.

[@philscomputerlab]

+WaybackTECH Maybe you will find one in your massive computer haul?

[@WaybackTECH]

philscomputerlab As much as I would like to think that, and it could happen, but it looks to me like everything was kind of mid range parts for their time that I have seen so far. Some exception though. I do have a Viper 770 I bought a couple years ago, just not the Ultra, and I only have that because the seller on Amazon said it was an Ultra, and showed a picture of the Ultra with the fan on it. Kind of ticked off on that one, but it was only $10 so I can't complain too much.

[@TheVanillatech]

+WaybackTECH DELL used to ship their big dual CPU Slot 1 servers with an AGP Viper 770 inside. I still have 5-6 of those cards, OEM Dell ones with passive coolers. Very fast TNT2 cards. I have never tried to overclock them - I guess I could if I added a fan to them....

[@captainpower6376]

My first Graphic Card was an Inno3D TNT2 M64 with PIII 733 Mhz and 64 Mb RAM, i played Max Payne wich was the most demanding PC Game at the time... it was a good era unlike today games !!!!

[@saurix2764]

Complimenti Bel video , le ho anch'io quelle VGA , all'epoca erano gran schede adesso un ricordo e poi ci sono giochi che ancora oggi sono molto belli da provare che meglio avere un retro pc

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

I snagged a Asus V3800 Deluxe from Ebay for $30USD. Waiting for it to arrive. If it works, it's a really good price as these TNT2 Ultra cards are getting rare these days and expensive.

[@finforcer]

My 1st gfx card: Tseng Labs ET4000...in 1990 , omg 🙄, had also S3, Voodoo2-3, TNT", ATi Rage, ...and almost all major nvidia cards...fun times, now rockin RTX2080ti 😅

[@Trick-Framed]

I wanted one of these so bad I could taste it. But alas, I had spent all of my savings on console games and school books. I waited 1 1/2 years for a GeForce 256 (GF2 MX LOL). It was worth the wait.

[@Synthematix]

Concerning windows95 with various testing, i can confirm the ati 9200 agp is the best gpu for this os, as its for dx8.1

[@flyboypuoi]

Good informative video. I'm using my "retro build" right now (with this video open on my laptop next to it) and I've got a TNT2 M64. It's the card I've had since... forever. Many games are running very poorly, such as UT99. I think the biggest problem I'm having, as well as an M64, is that it's the PCI version. I've just been looking at AGP TNT2 cards on eBay and it looks like the Pro version is what I'll go for, considering cost/performance. The odd thing is that UT99 ran just fine when I was a kid, on this card. Is a Pentuim 3 866MHz good enough? I can get a 1GHz one, it just costs more.

[@flyboypuoi]

Well, looks like I got a cheap TNT2 Pro (AGP).

[@Itsallfun3000]

I'm no expert but I picked up an m64 this week and having the right drivers helped. Worth trying some different ones

[@RWL2012]

I had a Guillemot Maxi Gamer Xentor 32 in my Pentium II 333 with 512MB of RAM. That was a 32MB TNT2 Ultra based card.

[@philscomputerlab]

+RWL2012 Nice card, very high end back in the day. I wonder what happened to Guillemot.

[@RWL2012]

I don't know, but Unreal Tournament played really smoothly on that configuration despite running Windows XP RTM! Had also upgraded the sound card to an SB Live! and it sounded great through my Altec Lansing 2.1 (with a plastic 6.5" sub, haha) - unfortunately though the XP drivers for the graphics card had issues and I was unable to run Harry Potter, LOL. Unfortunately by that point I had deleted Windows 98 but left that little 4GB hard drive in alongside the 40GB XP drive for some reason :-P

[@philscomputerlab]

Windows XP RTM, nice. Wasn't there this blaster virus around? With the lack of firewall and constant rebooting?

[@RWL2012]

I don't recall it getting infected. Didn't get any viruses since Windows 98 from what I remember

[@concujak]

+RWL2012 didnt that Have a Svideo INPUT ? I remember that brand and seeing a model with SVIDEO input and was amazed !

[@AbandonwareZone]

After changing out my TNT2 M64 to a Geforce 2 MX400, there was a very noticable performance boost, but for some weird reason, a GF2 MX400 can't run the first Tomb Raider game! It crashes within minutes or seconds of launching. It's not driver related issue, since it even crashes in MS-DOS mode.

[@fobusas]

That's the first GPU i've had. Before that it was Sega Mega Drive II

[@KokoroKatsura]

A N I M E N I M E

[@KokoroKatsura]

i put a lower end of the tnt2 on a pII with its nonstandard agp bracket

[@GTAManRCR]

10 years ago I used a TNT2 M64 which was a 16 MB low profile graphics card. Was great to run Neighbours from hell and MS-DOS games. My very first graphics card ever Fact that I never installed drivers for that and Windows XP recognized it as NVIDIA Vanta/Vanta LT

[@TorqueEffect]

My father's desktop he bought in 2003 had a Riva TNT2, I don't remember if it was a 64 or a Pro. I do remember playing Half Life 2, and GTA 3 quite extensively on it.

[@n.ludemann9199]

My favorite TNT2 is the Elsa Synergy II 32MB, it is a Pro and I got mine for 10EUR...

[@CaudaMiller]

yeah that was the main problem, so minute picture quality difference for such high performance impact. but did you notice 3dfx used dithering. if you look close enough you can see checkerboard pattern. i thought my s3 was responsible at first till i got v3 3500

[@lukedoescher4539]

my TNT 2 is a creative TNT2 (model CT 5823)

[@dabombinablemi6188]

I've still got mine-I'm having to use it with my Abit VP6 as the PSU struggles with my FX5500 and Geforce 6200, and its replacements (Geforce 256 and Asus MX440) died.

[@SheldeniHardware]

+Dabombinable Mi You know it is a small world when I see your comment in this video haha

[@dabombinablemi6188]

Lol, yeah. I've been seeing other forum members all over the Internet as well. But honestly, how couldn't you with a video about a video card that I still use after all these years (mainly because it just keeps on going, like my 386).

[@ThomasChaote]

i always wondered in this benchmark, if this coast harbor scene is from any game... because I want to play it :)

[@balthron]

Elsa, while being a German company, actually manufactured in Taiwan. At least they did by the geforce 2 era.

[@ronysol]

Great Video, Can you please link the Driver for the TNT2 PRO, Thank you

[@TheCureDMan]

Hello, Phil! Have you tested these games on the default in-game detail settings or on max settings?

[@philscomputerlab]

+TheCureDMan Everything default! Easiest way for others to compare and for to get going.

[@Anilocin]

I bought a box of 12 untested AGP cards for 24 Euros and noticed a few minutes ago that one of them might be a MS 8806 TNT2 Pro. Hopefully it works.

[@haly51]

Long ago i had Riva TNT 2 memory 32MB agp, playing game return to castle Wolfenstein work fine and flawless 👍

[@aliyucel602]

my tnt2 m64 is still alive in 2019

[@damiandamiano6377]

there was no 64 only 32 , maybe you are talking about geeforce series

[@krz8888888]

I read somewhere that the M64 is only a decent option if you are looking for a TNT "1" equivalent

[@MasterDXT]

I love watching your video's!

[@philscomputerlab]

+MasterDXT Thank you, means a lot!

[@robau84]

Would be nice if you renewed the driver download linked in the description. Looking for suitable 98 drivers for 20 minutes now.

[@Necr0BR]

Great Video, cant wait to see the next one!

[@philscomputerlab]

+Necr0manceR Me too! Next card will be the Voodoo3 :D

[@Necr0BR]

Yeah! They are my favorites!

[@Necr0BR]

The 3dfx series i mean.

[@katuki83]

Hello! Good video we got here. I got a question, I have an ASUS P2L97 Motherboard and it says it suports agp 2x. I was thinking if a Riva tnt2 64 32mb will work with it? Whats the best or recomended graphic card i can use on this motherboard? THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[@IgoByaGo]

Those M64's came in so many pre-builts. My friend had an HP with an Athlon 900 and it came with that crappy card. It ran his Counter-Strike okay though. I had a Voodoo Banshee, then a Riva TNT, then a Geforce 256, and finally a Geforce 2 GTS 32MB. I used that card from 2001 until 2003 when I purchased a Geforce FX 5900 Ultra. I think that was my least favorite Nvidia card. I used it until I could get a Geforce BFG 6800 Ultra OC. That card was a beast in its time. That was my last Nvidia (I used it for 6 years until I got an Asus pre-built). I then used AMD cards in 2010 and 2012. I upgraded to a GTX 970 in 2014 and I just upgraded to a GTX 1080 two weeks ago.

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks for sharing! GTX 1080 is very nice :)

[@IgoByaGo]

PhilsComputerLab I just saw your reply! I love watching your videos, they bring back great memories. I’m honestly not that happy with my 1080s. The current market is overpriced for what you get. I miss the good old days.

[@MrJmannik]

Interestingly I tested my voodoo 3 3500 TV with 3dmark 99 and 00 and got roughly the same as the m64 card. Its interesting how well those cards scale, the system specs of my machine were as follows: Athlon 500Mhz 512MB PC133 Ram Sound Blaster Live! 40GB IDE Drive Creative Labs Voodoo 3 3500 TV

[@philscomputerlab]

+Jake Mannik Very nice! I only have newer AMD gear, like Athlon XP and 64.

[@MrJmannik]

+philscomputerlab im just booting my P3 1Ghz with Diamond Viper V770U and Voodoo 2 SLI now to run both 3dmarks again to see how my numbers stack up to yours

[@philscomputerlab]

+Jake Mannik They should be much better!

[@barneyboby8620]

cool retro card keep up the good work

[@itscomingoutofbothends8385]

would have liked AGP.

[@rendyperdana]

my first graphic card

[@casualnapoli1763]

I have an Acer TNT 2 16 MB on my old Acer Aspire with 512 mb of RAM and P3 600Mhz the driver used for the graphic card are msi ms 8802/8806 what do you think Phil are those good or should I try another one?

[@miguelalves7333]

My first pc was a pentium 3 500mhz with a riva tnt2 gpu

[@lemagreengreen]

I had a TNT2 Ultra back then after the Voodoo2 and it was a good card, held up until I could upgrade to a Geforce2 GTS

[@si4632]

voodoo 2 was probably faster

[@mateuszkwietowicz2470]

The first "proper" gpu I bought was a Rivta TNT2 M64 - unfortunately I didn't know what M64 meant, and at that time, I only saw the price, which was like half of a TNT2 - I wish I knew back then.

[@philscomputerlab]

+Mateusz Kwietowicz I think we all learnt a similar lesson at some point. Avoid anything with LE, SE, M or other suffix :D

[@soylentgreenb]

+Mateusz Kwietowicz The TNT2 M64 wasn't *that* bad. It was half the performance for half the price. Most of the time you were CPU limited anyway; so the practical difference between the tnt2 and the tnt2 m64 was not higher framerates, it was slightly lower resolution (e.g. 800x600 instead of 1024x768) or 16 bit colours instead of 32. It had good 2D acceleration (i.e. windows), good 32 bit colour support and a 300 MHz RAMDAC so it could support almost any screen resolution and refresh rate available at the time. It wasn't an enthusiast card, but most graphics cards sold are not enthusiast cards, they're mid end and mediocre cards like the M64.

[@mateuszkwietowicz2470]

Well my Riva TnT2 M64 was pretty crappy. It wouldn't let me run anything with decen resolution and even acceptable framerate. I don't know, maybe my PC was just too slow altoghether, but my friend had a VooDoo 2 and it was a beast.

[@krunge]

How did you get such a high score with the Ultra? I recently tried the same benchmark on my AMD K6-2 500 MHz using a Creative TNT2 Ultra and only scored around 2100?!

[@ChrisZukowski88]

imagine going back in time to 1999 with your 3090 build. your neighbor starts to show you his epic new riva 2 card and then you show him yours. lmfao.

[@antraxbeta23]

I just got a m64 model :( , but since it was free i cant complain , il just keep it in my collection

[@maxmoko3577]

Such a great intro! LIKE

[@calumward1192]

I’m needing some help! Having a lot of issues with my TNT2 M64, I’m using an Msi ms6163 440bx motherboard. The card won’t display text properly in some games like Quake 2, it won’t run Battlezone very well as soon as I enter the menu while playing and exit it crashes, It was hard for me to get Incoming working as well as it didn’t even detect a Direct 3D device… needing some help as I’m wanting a TNT2 V770 Ultra by Diamond but I feel like it’s going to be just as buggy. I’ve tried the drivers on Phil’s website and none seem to change anything, I’m starting to think of buying to a Voodoo 3 instead of a V770. I currently have a TNT2 M64 made by Palait Daytona. And thank you if you’ve read my comment this far! 😂

[@philscomputerlab]

What driver are you using?

[@smfanqingwu1474]

I HAD A WINFAST 4M GRAPH CARD. I PLAYED FIFA01 BIOHAZRD2 QUAKE2.

[@مقاطعمترجمة-ش8ث]

I played Max Payne on TNT2 and Pentium 4 computer

[@CraaaaaabPeople]

Comanche 3 still looks good in 2022

[@RoomerJ]

What about the TNT2 M64 Pro 32mb AGP? I was matched almost exactly with your regular TNT2 Pro with the same benchmarks. There's obviously some difference here or you missed a TNT2 card in your tests.

[@philscomputerlab]

We reviewed the M64 in another video! If I remember, it is around the speed of the first TNT and half the speed of TNT2.

[@RoomerJ]

@@philscomputerlab You have a TNT2 M64 in both the videos but not the TNT2 M64 Pro 32mb AGP. I'm not sure if it's an uncommon variation or something but the benchmarks of the regular, I'm assuming it's different from the pro I have tested, you tested were about half of the score I was getting on Mark99 and 2000. I got 7346 on 3dmark99 with the TNT2 M64 Pro 32mb AGP I tested.

[@RoomerJ]

@@philscomputerlab If you ever get a chance to test or install for a moment the TNT2 M64 or the TNT2 Pro, can you look at the nvidia advance settings that shows the name and model of the card on the top of the window. That's where my information is showing. It says. "NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64 Pro" the "properties". Is there a variant that not many people are aware of talk about?

[@mcgibs]

My first graphics card. I've stuck with Nvidia ever since, mostly out of familiarity.

[@Adecius]

I wish the actual NV Driver would load that fast :(

[@luwardner7549]

can you do a review of the nvdia GeForce256

[@philscomputerlab]

+Lu Wardner Of course! All these great cards will get reviewed :D

[@thedataflo]

im looking since forever for a elsa erazor 3 pro get a crt and the 3d revelator for it and start unreal tournament the intro alone will blow u away

[@spookyfox3546]

Ahh, Nostalgia!

[@velosiped135]

Would this be a good card to pair with 2X Voodoo2’s in SLI, in a PII 400mhz?

[@philscomputerlab]

Hmm usually something like a S3 or Matrox is what often gets paired with Voodoo 2. But yes NVIDIA will also work. You can run Direct3D and OpenGL on the NVIDIA and Glide in the Voodoo if you wish. Note that the NVIDIA output gets routed through the Voodoo so depending on the quality of the card the signal might suffer a bit. That's why Matrox cards are so popular they have excellent signal quality.

[@Basard100]

Had a Graphics Blaster rivaTNT..... Best card ever made. lol...

[@S1nwar]

the little fan on my m64 was just stuck after a while and didnt move at all. hard to overclock that...

[@Illutorium]

Riva can be use even with Windows 3.1

[@martijnvanzanen4075]

I had the voodoo 2 and 3 back then. THough I would do wise to upgrade to the tnt2.. boy what was a I wrong. ALl games had lower fps:P I did enjoyed the gf2 ti tho. What a beast back then.

[@philscomputerlab]

+Martijn van Zanen I used a very fast processor, so I think what's happening is that on a period correct machine the Voodoo cards perform better.

[@martijnvanzanen4075]

+PhilsComputerLab Thanks for the reply. Perhaps, but I think my cpu was ok.I had win 98se with yes 786 mb mem ( yes it worked fine) and the Amd Atlhon slot a on 800 mhz, later a duron socket a on 1200 mhz. Untill i got the duron 1800 back then. I changed voodoo to gf 4 ti 4200.

[@philscomputerlab]

In case you haven't seen this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oV7KfqeFoN2paqc It's one of my favourite videos I produced. Funny, a few contacted me telling me that the TNT2 should be faster :D

[@philscomputerlab]

Romania? Nice! Good point about Glide. I looked at the game list of nGlide, I had no idea just how many Glide games there are. I just know about the big titles like Unreal or Descent 3. Lots to learn and discover :D

[@BeerBaron23]

The Glide 3D API was made by 3DFX, hence only the Voodoo cards could use it and the Dev's wrote thier games with it cause at the beginng 3DFX was the only company making 3D cards. Once gaming devs discovered other manufactureres were making 3D acceleration cards based around the superior OpenGL, patches were released for their games to add OpenGL support, so many games at the time had the options to choose Software, Glide or OpenGL and if you didn't manually select it yourself you won't get 3D acceleration. If the game was older and only had Glide, then you had to install a Glide Wrapper that would transcribe the Glide API calls to OpenGL on the fly if you had any other 3D card. Later devs started to code their games in OpenGL only, the problem with the Voodoo cards was that they didn't support OpenGL (they were designed around Glide). So the devs had to implement the option of a "MiniGL" API so that Voodoo cards coud use it, which is a dumb downed version of OpenGL that used only the 3D calls the Voodoo cards could understand. During this time period D3D was no where as good as OpenGL or Glide in performance or graphics which is why this little fiasco occured.

[@randomaccessbrains]

I'm going to get myself a pci m64 instead of the voodoo banshee, that guy sold it before i could get a hold of it. It's better than the intel 810 graphics at least

[@philscomputerlab]

+Ramses De Vuyst Depending on what game you're going to play, it can be a decent card.

[@randomaccessbrains]

PhilsComputerLab on the 500 mhz p3 im only going to play older games so it should be fine, cause i got a 1ghz celeron working for the later stuff with a mx 440 :D

[@AxiomofDiscord]

Can't wait to be emulating this card in the future. I don't have any in my own collection I have two Voodoo 3s but no TNT2s. I got nothing from Nvidia until Geforce 4 I think still around. This card seems to be a very solid Windows 9x card and one that if you need something better you are likely better building an XP machine. So I think it might hit a certain sweet spot but maybe the first Geforce would be a little better for that sweet spot. Any thoughts? Do you have some early Geforce benchmarks by chance?

[@kurosenpai]

my first graphic card :'( . paired with intel p3 it was the shit back then. played lots of games, even PS1 emulators with no problem. I think the first game that it starts not to run properly was C&C General. I even tried NFS Underground. It ran but the lag and the weird texture, dear lord