Oakland County Prosecutor McDonald doesn't think Crumbley parents prosecution set precedent

[@Heights_GangVH-]

Let’s talk about how he made threats a year prior and the police interviewed him and didn’t do anything. When I was in high school a guy made threats to do something to our school and he had to spend Juvie life in a juvenile facility.

[@HybridAliennumber3]

🤔🍺.. thank God that you're a snitch and reported that kid

[@geoffreyevans6133]

@@HybridAliennumber3 Where in his statement did he say he “snitched” ? You appear to be creating “facts”.

[@seductiveraven4895]

that can happen? Life for a threat? Like he didn't actually do something and got life for ever ever??

[@johnnichols9940]

Someone made a verbal threat on a gaming platform,,,he was interviewed,,,nothing could be proven,,,information was sent to schools,,,

[@DiarrheaChopper]

@@seductiveraven4895 He said that?

[@angel794]

As in this Georgia incident, whenever a parent knows their child has made public threats to shoot in a school, has emotional/behavioral problems, the authorities bring you and your child in for questioning about that and, after that, you gift your kid an AR-15 style rifle for the following Christmas, you are culpable, no question. The usual situation in these shootings is not so clear

[@Moomintravel]

Yeah parents need to be held responsible. And if needed, they should be sent to jail. Don't blame weapons lmao🤣

[@shadowscreamer1]

@@angel794 he’s also trans

[@smhollanshead]

@@shadowscreamer1while I have the same suspicion, what’s your source for the “trans” allegation?

[@kryptoniteKJ]

Exactly, send both to jail, they both knew better. I don't know why anyone has an argument to not punish the parents.

[@rufus-h4h]

This didn't happen when I was a kid, and we had a rifle team at the school.

[@simsreject5925]

If we're holding people accountable for failures, why aren't the school administrators getting prosecuted too? Administrators identified Crumbley as a threat that day. They never checked his bag. If they did, they would have found the gun. Half the school stayed home because multiple students and parents reported Crumbley had posted threats online. Pretty much the same thing in GA. Police interviewed the dad and kid the year prior. He switched districts, but nobody bothered telling the new district his history of school violence. The dad said he was at the school almost daily for issues involving his kid. He called 5 schools the morning of the shooting and said what he planned on doing. School should have been cancelled and neither shooter should have never been allowed on campus.

[@JoeMama-dt4jg]

that’s a fair question!

[@wellhellothere9157]

Yes, if the school knows they're a threat, the principal or dean needs to be responsible. Whoever was notified. If they do nothing. In this case. He bought his son the murder weapon after the FBI told the father about his sons comments online. He knew what his son was capable of and gave him the means. That's a Lil different than any school not doing enough.

[@Texas240]

You bring up a good point. However, I'd say the administrators should be responsible for not getting these kids help BEFORE it gets to that point. There's no reason a kid should be so dissociated that he's able to premeditate murder.

[@janetprice85]

Switching schools isn't an answer but counseling is. Unless a kid is bullied and there the school can fix that A troubled kid needs help not denial. Frankly I do not understand this bullying. In my day bullies were disliked and shunned as jerks and avoided by the majority of kids. There is something very wrong in the way we are raising kids. Compassion, morals,empathy? These are as important as math and reading. And should begin with Mom and Dad.

[@Texas240]

@@janetprice85 Part of what we're seeing is the payoff of decades of Feminism teaching women that they don't need to pick a good husband and father and STAY MARRIED to him because women can work and raise kids on their own without any compromise in quality of their life or their kids' lives. The OTHER problem, in large part enabled by the first, is even when the parents stay together, BOTH are working to afford a "normal" standard of living. That's a result of businesses seeing the women entering the workforce as a good opportunity to raise prices and increase profits (much the way businesses have used "increasing lowest wages" as a similar excuse). So, once both parents were working, there's really been no way to get where they can afford one parent to actually be the child mentor, guide, and parent to the kids. Feminism forgot to teach women that being a mother IS a full time job and worthwhile career.

[@pmgfineart]

So all politicians that support open borders should be held responsible.

[@unicornhearts]

What does this have to do with a white guy born in the US being a mass shooter?

[@JanetM05]

If you are a parent and you buy a weapon for an under aged child and that child uses that weapon to kill people than you are liable ….

[@DestructoDisk]

Cars are used to murder. Parents aren't charged for not locking up the keys to their Prius.

[@jamescook7713]

Are you the judge and jury on that case??

[@Emolga6274]

But it is legal in Georgia to buy a hunting gun for your child

[@JanetM05]

@@Emolga6274 so I guess it was okay for him to hunt a public school killing people cause he sure in tje hell wasn’t out in the woods…. Please don’t show ignorance….

[@JanetM05]

@@jamescook7713 No but I’m human and enrolled to my opinion

[@DornishQueen]

Yes. Parents do need to be held accountable as well. You raised your kid. What they do as a minor is on them.

[@yoshiramar1992]

Than they should charge the kid as a minor instead of an adult and the parents as adults

[@oszon]

What about the mother? Did she know anything?

[@cutepuppy2422]

What about black kids?

[@hagridsurcouf4173]

Giving a child a killing weapon is just plain wrong Christmas gift or not

[@INoIFearIGaming]

14 year olds have had and shot guns for many decades. Most of us had guns and shot guns growing up back in the day. Children's maturity and mental capabilities have drastically declined in recent years. Kids are being confused by all this weird gender nonsense.

[@keithkorthals6183]

Done all the time!

[@robertsmith2956]

Then let the child buy his own.

[@kalijasin]

Exactly right! The father armed him. He’s an accessory before the fact.

[@robertsmith2956]

Why shouldn't a child be able to protect themselves from perverts biden hires. Bryan Malinowski needed his kids to help repel the home invaders that murdered him.

[@PatYes-f3w]

When I was in high school, the country boys carried guns in a rack in their pick-up. Sometimes the.teachers would come out to see them. I am so blessed to be born and raised in a small rural community. Of course, I am now a senior and it is a new scary world, but how has there been such a radically change?

[@Searching4Reason]

If he is being charged as an "adult", how can the parents be charged for contributing to a "minor"? Can't have it both ways. This will set a dangerous precedent. Your kid gets into a fight at school, the parents can now be charged with assault & battery. Or your 16 year old borrows your car and hits someone, parents can now be charged with vehicular homicide.

[@user-ff3sx2nl4g]

its more about how his father knew he was dangerous, didnt care, then gave his kid a gun. not that parents are just getting charged for their kids crimes, he was involved by purchasing an angry mentally ill 14 year old a gun who had previously made violent threats about using a gun

[@andrebeauchamp6897]

When they say “Charging As An Adult” simply means he’s going to face adult criminal penalties. It doesn’t let the enabler or co-conspirator off the hook. It’s the equivalent of the minor robbing a bank and murdering someone and the parent provided the gun directly or indirectly. The parent had a responsibility to properly secure the firearm from the child. It Georgia and most if not all states that parents keep firearms locked and secured from minors. If the parents don’t know that, too bad because it’s part of the requirement of purchasing a firearm to take a gun safety course and show a completion certificate before the firearm is released to you by a firearm merchant. Ignorance of the law is never an excuse…

[@FirstNameLastName-wt5to]

Him being his parent is actually irrelevant here. He provided a gun in a situation where a reasonable person would say there was a clear possibility that the gun would be used in this crime. That’s what gets him the charges.

[@DurzoBlunts]

Yes you can have it both ways. Charging someone as a minor does not forgo any of the parents responsibilities which this father failed at. The mother was useless and drunk

[@foxsterreacts9445]

You make zero sense. When you choose to act on your own with zero help from you parents aka fighting with fists or being sober and driving a car owned by your parents but you still were the cause of the accident. This was premeditated murder and the parents were warned by the local Police during interviews with the.he was troubled and THEN bought him these weapons.

[@heathergriffin2202]

If the father in this case is culpable for his son’s actions then judges/cops should be culpable when they release prisoners who turn around and recommit crimes.

[@rosierambo144]

It’s great to see that “whataboutism” is alive and well. Bravo!🤔😩👏🏼🌹

[@ron88303]

In some cases.

[@HannaBooth-dc6iz]

I completely agree with your point but once a criminal is taken into custody cops aren’t the ones releasing them. It’s 100% judges who make that decision. Now being in corrections prior I got to a point where I could pretty much guess who the judges were gonna let off easy based on charges. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

[@thomasjones4570]

The only precedent this is going to set is that parents will then be responsible for all their kids actions.

[@Jenda-ld8dj]

Mother too.

[@proudinfidel7791]

Charging the parents in these shootings is a lame attempt by the prosecution at looking tough on crime, while again the root of the problem (mental health) is ignored.

[@Emolga6274]

That’s not the root , the root is guns

[@proudinfidel7791]

@@Emolga6274 Wrong. Guns have always been here. This behavior has not.

[@Jack-e6e8w]

So how much trouble is the FBI going to get into are they going to stay late after school because they’ve been monitoring the individual for a year but didn’t do a damn thing

[@cthulholmhastur5317]

🤔😪 I'm sort of confused as to how they are charging the 14 yr old as an adult, and charging his father.? If they classify the 14 yr old as an adult, that makes him responsible for his crimes, right?

[@rickymoise1374]

You should research how many teens in Florida get charged as an adult...

[@treesmoker4794]

I agree. At that point kids are fully aware of how to get access to weapons of they're in the house. This would be like locking up the makers of all the firearms just because of what the buyer did.

[@jonwagner811]

@@treesmoker4794 No it would be like locking up the guy who sold someone a gun, then used it to kill someone with. Even if he's tried as an adult, they will look at him like a minor. Legally he is. When you're tried as an adult, that means you get big boy charges. They still take being a minor into affect though, so they may be lenient, but he will still get the same years an adult would face. The kid's parents were 100% liable for this, if you have a moody, antisocial kid. A gun shouldn't be on a list of Christmas presents.

[@Kmmlc]

@@jonwagner811 Being charged as an adult allows for a life sentence but takes the death penalty (and depending on the state without parole) off the table. Most juvenile offenses are limited in how long you can be sentenced for and the records can be sealed (it's not automatic). Being charged as an adult makes it nearly impossible to seal the records.

[@KilledByAnger]

they’re arresting the father because they questioned them both earlier about the conspiracy of the school shooting a year prior & the father said the weapons were unloaded and inaccessible. only to find out a year later those firearms were “loaded” and very much “ accessible “. that’s y he’s being charged .

[@charlie-qh2ll]

I find it odd that when it comes to violence the state demands parents be the parents and be held accountable for their children's actions, yet when it comes to major medical decisions the state demands the parents not be the parents and the state gets to decide. Why isn't the state responsible for that kids' violence?

[@acorn50]

“Dittos”

[@garyjsimm]

exactly

[@user-ff3sx2nl4g]

his dad gave him a gun after he made threats to use one of his dads guns to shoot up a middle school. hows that georgias fault? also what kid can make their own medical decisions? can i have a link for that?

[@ldcow3948]

@@user-ff3sx2nl4gCovid or any other vaccine required for school. That the government has shown it can just add one whenever they feel.

[@libralillyknits]

DANG! 💯

[@CamillaMosley-zp6pr]

Still the same problem... I remember knives in schools more than 50 years ago. Now it is 2024. How do guns , knives, etc get into a school Campus?

[@P_D-px6iv]

Because kids today don't have lead paint for brains and know how to hide stuff and find loopholes

[@TheSharperSword]

Are kids influenced more by their parents or the media and educational system? If parents can be criminally negligent teachers, why not media companies and educational officials?

[@AllFascistsCanSuckIt]

He got the gun from his father. He was only 14. The school had nothing to do with that. Also, you don’t get to be the party of “parental rights” without “parental responsibility”.

[@AllFascistsCanSuckIt]

NOPE. You don’t get to be the party of “parental rights” if you aren’t willing to be the party of “parental responsibilities”.

[@TonyBeauford]

Why are you so against parents being punished for not be responsible for a weapon that they have provided to a minor? Why?

[@dbmmatthews5654]

A “parent” willfully bought a weapon ( a rifle) as a gift for their own minor. Ok then.

[@drzaius1121]

​@@dbmmatthews5654and? Lots of kids have firearms. It's about parenting, the gun is irrelevant.

[@Unapologetically_Sassy_Me]

Crumbleys case set the path forward to hold couples accountable

[@davidwhitten3596]

Only a certain shade 😎

[@foxsterreacts9445]

​@@davidwhitten3596 The black mother was charged when her 6 year old shot their teacher. The Crumbleys were the first in a shooting spree scenario. Now these wackos.

[@ImoniFatty]

@@foxsterreacts9445ignore him He’s a troll spewing racist crap all over on this news clip

[@Ahzpayne]

The Crumbley parents didn't have a dropped police investigation to point to as a valid reason to believe their child posed no threat. Unfortunately that dismissed case did set a precedent and it will be the sole reason only one member of this family in Georgia goes to prison. As an aside, my family owned a gun store for 30 years or so and even in the 80s and 90s had signage up about adult owners being criminally responsible for an unsecured weapon being used by a minor. It's why every gun sold came with a trigger lock and a recommendation for a locking safe over a wooden display cabinet. The number of people who tried to tell us "We don't need this thing. It will never get used, just keep it" was staggering and no small part in the reasoning behind closing the business.

[@derekcrockett6214]

Thanks for putting public safety over self interest.

[@tigerskatemom]

Thank you! Common sense mostly left our society, and it is very great to see that there are still people like you. I'm sure that decision to close your business was not an easy one. You put a lot of thought into it.

[@kathywhitaker1042]

@@Ahzpayne yes......

[@shalevedna]

Time to give parents back their responsibility for their kids!!!!

[@toneacusbebadacus2874]

Shad app

[@safiraazul9317]

YES!!!

[@ajrackz]

​@@toneacusbebadacus2874 shut up

[@denised5733]

Absolutely and stop interfering with that kid needs a slap to understand consequences as long as it doesn't leave a mark the state needs to get the hell out!!

[@kiak2971]

How about the schools be accountable to, stop the bullying in schools.

[@lynnmarble8456]

I'm the first to want gun law reform that includes secure storage if there's a minor in the home, and I also am the first that wants irresponsible parents held responsible if their negligence results in gun violence committed by their child, however, in this case, if the FBI and the Shetiff Dept. couldn't confirm that this boy was the person responsible for the threats, why would the father believe differently? This feels like local LE trying to save face for their oversight a year ago.

[@richardhead6184]

I want gun law reform too, I want gun rights expanded. A complete repeal of safe storage laws, red flag laws, etc. Ther unconstitutional and violat human rights

[@co6429]

@@richardhead6184wow

[@debrajames3869]

I agree. Also, folks keep calling this weapon an assault rifle. I am no expert on guns; however, I don't believe the AR15 is an assault rifle. I think it's used mostly for hunting? He and is father were hunters. There has to be more to it than what we have heard on the news for an indictment to happen.

[@drzaius1121]

​@@debrajames3869 correct, it can be chambered with .22 rounds, you can literally hunt squirrels with an AR 15.

[@GurtiusMaximus]

If the local police and the fbi did nothing, it’s not illegal for the father to buy him a gun.

[@chadrushing4685]

When the FBI drops the ball.. let's blame everyone else!

[@geeloco1600]

How did they drop the ball? I would love to hear this one

[@larrypresley-ob7it]

They knew about this a year in advance and did nothing they even say in the news report!!

[@GurtiusMaximus]

@@geeloco1600 if the fbi didn’t do anything, the father had every right to believe his son was fine.

[@geeloco1600]

@@GurtiusMaximus and why’s that? He’s the one with his son everyday, does he not know better as a grown man? Why does a 14 year old need an AR? The dad is a dirtbag

[@geeloco1600]

@@GurtiusMaximus how did the kid get the gun? Who bought it for him?

[@gatornation3889]

So why dont we see the parents of gang members ? Or the children who continually run the streets ?

[@justinfleming5119]

This, like "hate crime" is a class of prosecution reserved for punishing white people for existing.

[@davidwhitten3596]

That would be waycist

[@alphachief5425]

We should they should be charged as well

[@justinfleming5119]

@@alphachief5425 I want you to pay attention and see whether that ever happens. I guarantee you that it won't.

[@joelewis1776]

Because it’s irrelevant that he’s his father, what matters is that he provided him the gun. If he was his brother it would be the same thing

[@FrankH-x7y]

It should be law, parents who buy their child a gun are guilty of all the same charges as the shooter.

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Ah. Remove blame from the gov't and their terrible policies. How altruistic and transparent.

[@scottkennedy4984]

You're absolutely right! The gov't should have banned assault style weapons years ago and didn't and now we have an ever growing pile of dead kids!!!!!!!!

[@radiantmind8729]

Moral of the story-if your kid is a moody, little weirdo with no friends, keep the g-damn firearms locked up.

[@chrismartino3519]

The US has a higher murder rate then Iran, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam and the Philippines. I still would rather live in the US even though it is less safe to. You can't tell me we have a more violent culture then those other countries. I just won't believe you. there must be something that's being overlooked in the US. I just can't figure what it might be.

[@mattb8754]

Keep the firearms locked up period. You just described more than half the teens in this world

[@AVY5]

or how about always have them locked up? what is going on in that brain of yours omfg 😭😭😭😭

[@aaabbb-py5xd]

Lol, so you're blaming the kid for having no friends and being a weirdo. Well, with that kind of bully attitude, you're just asking for some other form of mass event to replace those that happen in high schools. How about colleges, parks, festivals, any kind of gathering, retirement homes, the list goes on, grocery stores, plenty soft target rich places

[@chrismartino3519]

The US has a higher murder rate then Iran, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam and the Philippines. I still would rather live in the US even though it is less safe to. You can't tell me we have a more violent culture then those other countries. I just won't believe you. there must be something that's being overlooked in the US. I just can't figure what it might be.

[@vEvent]

She should worry about her own county. Oakland is crumbling

[@Julio-zl7yk]

Yeah she needs to start arresting the black parents of the black kids who violet commits 24/7 365 f****** days of the goddamn year.

[@Georgedunkin7473]

Right because lessons learned elsewhere never apply. Typical deplorable response. Go hide under a rock.

[@theprojectguy2341]

Oakland County Michigan. Not much for listening to the facts, are we? Same for the thumbs up crowd

[@Emolga6274]

They want to charge this child as an adult. At the same time they want to charge the parents because they’re responsible for their child actions. Well, if he’s being charged as an adult, that means he’s responsible for his own actions. Does anyone not see the hypocrisy here?

[@LisaHansen-k5z]

Why would a parent buy an assault rifle for a 14-year-old? Hold the parent accountable.

[@jessiebedlam6094]

I bought my kid one. My parents did same. The problem isn’t the weapon high speed.

[@Tempestan]

I had a shotgun, 20guage, when I was 10. His dad did not go out and buy a military machine gun for him. Define "assault rifle", here is a hint, it does not exist.

[@jamescook7713]

There is no such thing as an "assault rifle", Give it a rest, lefty.

[@UncleDavesKitchen]

He was 13 when he got the gun. When I was 13 for Christmas I got underwear and a radio.

[@cutepuppy2422]

​@@UncleDavesKitchenur parents suck

[@mauricenunez73]

Those who don’t agree with parents also being held accountable for their child’s actions, are a a big part of the problem as well.

[@jamescook7713]

In the U.S., the government calls anyone up to 27 a child. So, if your "child" gets a DUI, the parents are now liable.

[@unicornhearts]

@@jamescook7713Where is a 27-year-old a child in the US? Misinformation is dangerous.

[@cutepuppy2422]

Bet you wouldn't feel the same if it was black.

[@jamescook7713]

@@unicornhearts read up on Obama care, sweet cheeks. Do you research before commenting, it makes you look like a fool.

[@berserkerok3351]

Yall think this is good ……until YOUR kids do something stupid. Maybe they do it with the car YOU let them drive, or the kitchen knife they took from moms kitchen….. i dont think you really want this. You just dont know you dont. This is bad precedence to set.

[@micahkrout3568]

That's already a thing. If your kid goes and vandalizes some property, you are liable. This is the extreme end. Maybe after your kid shows a bunch of red flags, you don't give them an AR for christmas whey they are too young to own an AR.

[@keithkorthals6183]

I agree. Or you wife or your friend or your neighbor. Guilt by association was abolished long ago ... lets not bring it back!

[@BrendaWatson-d5j]

The parents needs to ensure weapons are secure, expressly if child have behavioral issues. The schools need metal detectors and clear back packs-especially if they regulate cellphones use.

[@whit9987]

Convicting the parents if they knew the kid had issues and still gave access to weapons is a great thing. So is charging authorities who knew the kids made threats and didnt do anything about it.

[@ortho-g9826]

You don't understand the law do you? Too bad for all of us.

[@mr.claytonbigsby4342]

The fbi knew about the kid and did nothing, doubt they will be held accountable

[@openyourmind3763]

Agreed, and I would add the gun manufacturers, sellers that don't screen and lawmakers that promote our insane gun culture while blocking common sense safety measures and mental health parity (equally covered and as accessible as physical health care).

[@Ahzpayne]

Have to be able to prove a crime to charge someone with one. Thought crimes are still (mostly) not actual crimes.

[@davidb9323]

Robert Card was an adult in the Army Reserve. Think of his Command like you would a parent, responsible for the actions of their subordinate. Mental health concerns were reported to his Command multiple times for months leading up to 25 October 2023. He was never checked on by his command, instead he was discharged and local law enforcement closed all case files on him. If you read the report you would think that someone in the chain of command would be held responsible for not doing enough, like the parents. Ultimately it is the person who committed the crime who is responsible.

[@paullanoue5228]

The Parent gave a deadly weapon to a fourteen year old. This parent didn’t realize that often teenagers have problems with impulse control. Ignorance should not be an easy out for Parents who enable mass murder by their children.

[@Shauntheduke.]

not only this the parent was informed that his child was having violent tendcys and interests

[@user-ff3sx2nl4g]

and this parent had to be with his child at the police station for his threats made the previous year and before he got the gun as a present if im not mistaken. that dad allowed this to happen

[@richardhead6184]

Apply that same logic to a minor with a car, where does it stop?

[@user-ff3sx2nl4g]

@@richardhead6184 so ur saying if a child made a threat to run people over with his parents car, got interviewed with parents at police station about the threats, then a parent gifts that child a car knowing the violent threats, and the kid kills people with the car the parent shouldnt be held somewhat responsible? i would agree with u had there not been an investigation into this kid already and before he was gifted the gun, his father knew he was a threat. a parent that gifts their dangerous children weapons or means of violence when they dont have to be giving the child that then they should also be held somewhat responsible

[@StellarBoBellar]

@@richardhead6184 Cars have many utility uses that dont involve killing people. The exclusive utility of firearms is their ability to harm, or the threat of their harm. There isnt really a phenomena of hundreds of teens committing mass vehicular homicides every year.

[@swbigfan1]

Just wow! A prosecutor doesn't think convicting someone in a manner not seen before would set a legal precedent?!?!? You want to set a new legal precedent in the Georgia case? Here's one, people are so eager to go after "hate crimes" - well the shooter was bullied by people who called him gay. Whether he was gay or not, doesn't that qualify as a hate crime? Shouldn't they be charged as well for their roles in this. You want to start charging people who helped contribute to the crime? Instead of going after the father who was just ensuring his family had a means of defending themselves in the event of a robbery or home invasion & go after those who pushed him psychologically until he snapped & did this!

[@jamescook7713]

Hey swbigfan1, Common sense will get you nowhere on this site!!😅🤣😂

[@swbigfan1]

@@jamescook7713 Common sense, isn't!

[@smhollanshead]

Giving a high power rifle to your homicidal son, what could go wrong? What’s the defense? Well I never saw that happening! REALLY???

[@atillathehungry3145]

England has common sense KNIFE laws because their people don't have guns. It is a MENTAL problem the world is suffering not a weapons problem.

[@thomasjones4570]

Homicidal requires a homicide. That came AFTER, not before. Acting as if the father knew it was actually going to happen is the mark of a low IQ AND being childless. Kids say shit all the time they would never do...and I bet you do too.

[@HereForTheComments]

What if I secure my guns but my kid gets them anyway? This is the danger of trying to punish parents for their hardheaded kids.

[@GNewcomb-q9v]

Exactly! This is what people can’t grasp! When you have a teenager, they know right from wrong! It’s where trying to charge the parents have to end!

[@HereForTheComments]

@@GNewcomb-q9v The passion of feelings after a tragedy is making people unreasonable. They do this to set a precedent, so that in the event we have another shooting and the shooter is killed, we still have someone we can punish so we can say justice was done.

[@tiffaniejones5826]

OP, when you say “secured it,” you mean giving it to your child as a Christmas gift? Oh, ok.

[@HereForTheComments]

@@tiffaniejones5826 I don't mean that. But I mean for future cases, because not every school shooter gets their guns for Christmas. And even if they do, it's not illegal for kids to handle guns under parental supervision. That's why some kids do get guns for Christmas. Are we gonna punish adults because their kids take advantage of what's legal to do illegal things?

[@justinfleming5119]

​@@HereForTheCommentsThere are shootings by minors every day. They only deploy this parental complicity framing for whites.

[@jameseves9209]

Didn't a 49'er football player just get shot in the chest by someone that was released 3 days earlier for having an illegal gun?

[@NateBullock-ow6on]

What does that have to do with this story ?

[@justinfleming5119]

​@@NateBullock-ow6ontotally different race involved.

[@davidwhitten3596]

​@@justinfleming5119bingo

[@davidwhitten3596]

​@@NateBullock-ow6onthe courts failed.... released a known gun carrying criminal on the streets. Are you willing to take away the fact the kid made threats a year earlier and was interviewed by the police? What does something that happened a year ago have to do with this shooting? 🤔

[@GurtiusMaximus]

@@NateBullock-ow6on the judge that released the criminal should be held liable as well no?

[@skimson069]

is it just me or is she just barely smirking?

[@gemin0i]

if she is glad its on video karma will get her

[@openyourmind3763]

You sound paranoid, she said she's heartbroken. Her expression is that of someone who's caught between the facts of reality and discomfort, bracing oneself for the disapproval.

[@ThomasAnderson-d4i]

She loves the publicity and notoriety. This gets her wet I bet

[@ThomasAnderson-d4i]

People say one thing and mean another. All. The. Time. Let alone a corrupt prosecutor

[@denised5733]

I did not like her from the start I live in Michigan and watch this unfold she released the arrest warrant to the Press before she gave it to the sheriff. she is looking to make a name for herself!!!!!

[@alejandraalejandra4700]

What she is laughing about? Parents just lost their young kids! Pulse 2 young teachers!!! What's funny about?

[@CHKDSKSYNTAX]

Parents, Get your kids involved in Church. Talk to them. Get them into athletic activities. Get them into a music program. Teach them a trade. Keep them away from the internet.

[@nishamack586]

I support this prosecutor! It's overdue in holding the parents accountable. You turn your demons loose on the community you should pay!!!

[@justinfleming5119]

Should this be applied to blacks too. It won't be, but would you want it to be?

[@Austii42]

@@justinfleming5119it wont be applied to them, they dindunuffinrong

[@ICantMeow]

@@justinfleming5119”but but but what about!?” Corny loser shit even if it’s a joke get a job already make your family proud for once

[@jamescook7713]

What about Panty-Fa and BLM parents??

[@robertsmith2956]

Dad didn't disarm the people in school clinton and democrats did. You ENABLED the demon.

[@TinnyDee]

The root cause is not being talked about. We have a mental health crisis. 50 years ago, we had easier access to guns but there were no school shootings. Mentall illness is rampant. It is even encouraged and embraced or ignored.

[@jefftindell7924]

I do wonder sometimes though, is it mental illness, or a lack of appreciation for life. I've been getting the impression over the years that people have become more self centered, and less courteous. For what reason?

[@TrumpIsGonnaGetcha]

Yep our teachers told us if they was going hunting after school they would bring their guns and leave them on the bus. That way they can get off the bus and go straight to hunting! Still back then they never had any shootings form bringing guns on the bus

[@chrismartino3519]

The US has a higher murder rate then Iran, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam and the Philippines. I still would rather live in the US even though it is less safe to. You can't tell me we have a more violent culture then those other countries. I just won't believe you. there must be something that's being overlooked in the US. I just can't figure what it might be.

[@jczeee30]

The vast majority of mental illness does not cause people to murder others. It’s not fair to blame mental disorders in general. It’s not possible to show that the cause of mass shootings are “mental illnesses”, other than that people assume someone must be crazy to do that.

[@roboticbigfoot3222]

14 year olds didn’t have access to ar-15s, 50 years ago

[@BessieAggen]

I will say this as a parent especially from a long line of hunters we never ever gave our minor Sons guns above a low-powered hunting rifle or shotgun while hunting and that was it until they turned 18 years of age and understood the full responsibility and even then we made sure they had proper gun training safety training and new all the risks involved,... also the first rule of thumb never mix shells!🤔🧐🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@madpatriot4608]

The power of the state over our childrens discipline hinder us from executing our responsibility as parents

[@MicaelAlbrecht-lk9uf]

This needs a comprehensive discussion, a layout, and plan to lobby a redress of community, school, family support structures, foundated in care .....with remedies, cures, and removal of controversies. Not creating controversies into emergencies, that get bandaids and new "legislation" that only ties more hands from acting in Common law. Would like to talk with you, should you have time and energy.

[@mizzury54]

That is a complete lie and a common erroneous talking point. . These is no law that says you can't spank or discipline your children. Do your own research ... LOL.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

Apparently the parents were the type to hit their kids, I’m hearing. It makes sense that violence from parents gets emulated. Don’t teach your kid violence is okay by being violent to them - I had to unlearn what my father taught me and recognize he was not a person to emulate or look up to. I had to basically teach myself right from wrong as principles rather than impositions by people more powerful than myself. Unfortunately this kid couldn’t parent himself like I did. If you beat a kid, don’t be surprised if they turn out like you in all the worst ways.

[@mstlyn52]

​@mizzury54 yet, just 1 person that is against it makes a call to cps and next thing you know, they are at your kids school questioning your kids, at your house questioning parents, some say they question your neighbors. It's traumatic and humiliating. That in itself makes parents feel powerless. Even if something is not illegal, cps will tell you they frown on it, and they can run your life through the wringer, they are given far too much power. People feel powerless. My friends sister had to put up with being investigated because her daughters bedroom door was Removed. They were remodeling.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

@@mstlyn52 CPS is an absolute crapshoot. On that I agree. Sometimes they harass people for no reason, but for every incident like that there are two incidents where parents get away with deplorable behavior and abuse that they hide well enough on a visit.

[@Seducier]

Yes indeed parents should not send kids to government indoctrination camps

[@recursiveslacker7730]

@@Seducier what are you even talking about

[@Seducier]

@recursiveslacker7730 don't think too hard you might hurt yourself.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

@@Seducier you’re the one yapping. If you’re talking about school, then clearly you’re one of those “special” folks.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

@@Seducier I’m pretty sure that if you’re talking about school, you’ve lost the plot entirely.

[@Seducier]

@recursiveslacker7730 you never had the plot of you think it's not about "school".

[@pgppe9488]

The parent should be held accountable but why are parents of minors who violently carjack, rob or murder people with guns are not also held accountable. In most case those folks are not even mentioned. Doesn’t make sense. What is the difference between a school and a mass shooting at a party or a park and those parents are never interviewed or mentioned?

[@justinfleming5119]

You do hear from the parents. They get a press conference with Ben Crumb to demand sympathy and complain that the prosecution is racist. But they origin of the weapon is never discussed because people who don't register the vehicle they drive don't register their firearms either. And no one in the press or the political class are ever curious.

[@TonyBeauford]

Why is it so difficult to understand that the big difference is that these parents GAVE THE KID A WEAPON and WRONGLY ASSUMED THAT THE KID WAS GOING TO ACT LIKE AN ADULT. Stop with the false equivalency.

[@gabriellemaes4078]

The police no longer defend us.

[@manlikeZAHA]

Thank you ​@@TonyBeauford. I don't know why people act so ignorant.

[@zazasnruntz7505]

Only a whyt person would ask such a sick question like that 🤦‍♂️

[@kevinBarr-gy5go]

This falls on society you took the discipline out of the family structure. And yes there is a difference between discipline and abuse of children and Society can distinguish between the two.

[@niaralosusa]

…I wonder how many parents/family members have ever been detained and prosecuted for the actions of their minor inner city gang member child.

[@tiffaniejones5826]

Why are you changing the topic? What do inner city people have to do with THIS story? Deflecting much.

[@drzaius1121]

​@@tiffaniejones5826more kids are shot in inner cities. It's highly relevant. Why pretend the problem isn't more serious outside of schools?

[@justinfleming5119]

Zero. Never will be. When a black teen does a shooting, the mother is only brought out to present a sympathetic, mitigating narrative of how the shooter was a good boy who "struggled" and whom the system failed. The question of where the gun came from is never asked.

[@justinfleming5119]

​@@tiffaniejones5826How is it a change of topic to ask whether this will be applied to other parents of teen shooters?

[@zazasnruntz7505]

Inner city gang members don’t target schools like whyt American men 👍

[@danielmorse4213]

Uhg, just shut up and stop using the public.

[@BennyYahoo-l2b]

Accusing the parents of being responsible for an act like this is probably one of the sickest things a prosecutor could do, and it sets a dangerous precedent. What about the shooter's older brother and sister, grandparents and mother? On the same grounds, we could hold them accountable as well. We could also hold the school district accountable for not realizing that the student was about to loose it. Say the shooter instead accidentally hit and killed someone with their car which was bought by their parents. Would we hold the parents accountable for that? We would probably say no because it was an accident, but a shooting is intentional. Shouldn't the person who intentionally commits the act be held accountable for their own actions? Now if a 6-year-old killed someone that would be different, and the parents should be held accountable because the child doesn't know better, and they shouldn't have had the gun.

[@taffykins2745]

I fully agree.

[@niaralosusa]

100% this is a perfect example of the “give an inch and they will take a mile.“ When you take personal accountability away, this is what you get. We’ve seen this in the past where they’ve attempted to blame gun manufacturers and ammunition manufacturers for someone who used their products incorrectly. What’s next, are they going to blame a bread company because the criminal was nourished by their product? Are we going to blame the manufacturer of the shoes the criminal war because that helped the criminal protect his feet while en route to the location? Are we going to blame the water company that allowed the criminal to clean himself the morning of the crime? This is how silly some of these “blamers“ are.

[@orosalsero]

Let's put the blame where it belongs, the government let the genie out of the bottle, the day the government got involved in parenting and threatened parents with prison time for giving a wild child a spanking. Discipline in the home was the norm and kids grew up on the straight and narrow, not today the government tied the hands of every parent and this is the result.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

Child abuse isn’t the answer you think it is.

[@JDog_Unchained]

And yet schools want to ban children from having cell phones so they cant call for help in moments like this. Bravo. Genius idea

[@frankivey4379]

How is a cell phone, or a call to your mother, going to help?

[@Probablee_Ashlee]

@@frankivey4379nice troll account kiddo.

[@garyszewc3339]

Only cell phones that should be allowed, are the "jitterbug" type, that are programmed for limited calls. Mom, dad, one other emergency contact, and 911. No texting, tiktok, social media.

[@jboot77]

@@frankivey4379it helped in uvelede when the coward police just stood around during the massacre. Some parents were able to break in and save their children.

[@CatWith-AHat]

Banning cell phones is still pretty useless a child that doesn't care will just find other ways to distract themselves possibly leading to other students learning suffering. You can't force people to learn if a child doesn't want to learn in school have them start working cleaning it.

[@elnoradarby2209]

I hold the das responsible in this case because he gave his troubled chikd a gun as a gift

[@Amanda-e7v6k]

Parents may need to be held accountable when it needs to happen but missing a bigger one schools need to be held accountable

[@Chugwater_Cowboy]

The reason we have punctuation is so that readers have the most clarity possible to understand the meaning of your words rather than leave something to chance or doubt. Here's the best news though: PUNCTUATION IS FREE! *USE IT*

[@Amanda-e7v6k]

@JoshDean-y5i but then u have the ones that bullying is the fact. Most are so schools who don't enforce a zero tolerance to bullying when it's reported by that same student who brought a gun to school need to be held accountable. Bullying is always one of the biggest issues and problems in schools that's not an opinion that's facts some bullying doesn't get to a extreme response, some end with a student taking their life, and then some students get to a point where they feel revenge is the solution and blame every peer for not intervening and innocent kids are killed cuz of this. So parents and schools need to be seriously looked into equally

[@DiarrheaChopper]

​@JoshDean-y5iAlso drugs. They shouldn't do that. How are you to control that?

[@Amanda-e7v6k]

@Chugwater_Cowboy are u serious?? grow the hell up!! We're talking about serious shit take ur punctuation and shove it!!!

[@robk4099]

Absolutely, when the threat was made in 2023 the school should have taken action and suspended the kid from school. The fbi and the cops are also responsible for not taking any corrective action. Here in this case that father is absolutely responsible for his child’s actions inspite of knowing the threat in 2023 he bought him a weapon to a 14 yr old. I believe he is not only an illiterate man but a total idiot

[@cherrierichardson1032]

I’m wondering why no one has spoke about the school’s responsibility in this situation. Does the social worker not have anything to add about child and counseling to parents. Setting up a buddy system to monitor bullying behaviors. Etc. Having drills or auditorium speakers . Gun safety. Im an independent. Not republican or democrat. But I was a school nurse and just needed to get this off my chest.

[@calvinmurry1096]

Quickly now. Look up the Miller Hearing. I call it the Miller Doctrine. All parents must study closely the Miller Hearing. The legal question concerns parental authority and custodial rights.

[@coffinsnail6930]

That prosecuter needs to have their law license revocked for life.

[@tiffaniejones5826]

My cousin always said that parents raise their children at home so that the child knows how to act outside the home. Yes, parents should be held accountable when their children commit heinous acts!

[@DestructoDisk]

There are a lot of single mothers that need to be jailed by your logic because their bastards commit the majority of the murder.

[@ostrichman]

my cousin always used to say "here fancy getting a tab and a 5 deal and heading up the woods tonight to get fucked up"

[@cutepuppy2422]

What about African American mothers and 0 fathers? They commit 90% of all crimes

[@keithkorthals6183]

Guild by association was removed from the law long ago ... let not bring it back! It was considered heinous injustice.

[@Grudgebearer4life]

If they’re charging the father, then ALL the law enforcement and school officials that knew last year need to be charged as well. What’s good for the goose HAS to be good for the gander. They failed that community way worse than that father did. These taxpayer funded failures across this country need to be held accountable for their incompetence. These people are allowing children to die for their beliefs that we, the American people don’t “deserve “ our 2nd amendment rights. It’s disgusting and disgraceful. Evil needs to be challenged or removed immediately. Years of compliance and we forgot the government is not here for you, it’s here for government.

[@LickMyBawsq]

​@@Unknown-rb3ipDude was over 18 non issue

[@Cugastratos]

​@@Unknown-rb3ipThe perp in the assassination attempt was over 18 years old. 😑 If they had been 17 years old, then the parents would have been held account able for a minors actions.

[@richardhead6184]

​@@Cugastratos That's B.S look at all of the violent crime in the inner cities, not a single parent charged. Or how about that fellow who curb stomped his teacher at school over a Gameboy? Don't recall those parents being charged why🤔

[@RajHarrousYoutubeChannel]

If a stranger had given that gun to the 14 year old kid , do you think the stranger should be held accountable for the kid's act?

[@TonyBeauford]

@@richardhead6184 We are not going to normalize mass shootings and that's what you're implying by saying that other criminal acts should be treated the same way.

[@bigjon420]

First, the parents can not be charged for the actions of their kids. It's called treason. This system is predatory at its core. Unless the parents had a direct hand in their kids actions then there is no grounds nor standing for the parents to be charged.

[@twilightgaming7711]

parent is responsable for there kids actions till they are 18

[@bigjon420]

@twilightgaming7711 it doesn't matter. They are still not responsible for their children's actions. Everyone is responsible for theit own actions. It's called treason and operating without standing.

[@Emolga6274]

What are you saying is true but The prosecutors can charge anyone with anything and the jury will decide and the jury will definitely decide to vote this dad guilty because it was a very heinous crime and feel someone should go to jail.

[@tonysplace9255]

The government doesn't let parents discipline their children but when things go south want to blame them. You can't have it both ways. The Government prefers to use the psych drug method instead of finding other ways to help a child with development problems. Drugs are not the answer for kids already confused, and putting parents in prison won't stop, or deter anything.

[@zazasnruntz7505]

Whyt Americans have never disciplined their children

[@jamescook7713]

Read up on MK Ultra.

[@cutepuppy2422]

@@zazasnruntz7505 ok blacky

[@tonysplace9255]

@@jamescook7713 I know all about MK Ultra

[@VanAngelic]

She smiled and laughed throughout the interview, that's kinda weird to me.

[@daveh98]

Yet how many parent's of chicago and other gang areas are going to trials for their kids gang activities with the use of firearms? If it happened, it would be "institutional discrimination" and honestly, everyone would agree. But Mcdonald and other power hungry sociopaths just want to make national attention and career defining legislation. Personally I have no issues with parents having to take ownership of these types of situations but anyone is absolutely kidding themselves if they don't see the complete lack of nuance in how these cases are starting to present as and who is targeted. One day perhaps they will consult actual expects who could help improve legislation and lower risk. It's all a joke for these morons.

[@HybridAliennumber3]

What about Donald Trump who caused the insurrection at our nation's capital where innocent people were killed . He should be charged too with involuntary manslaughter

[@Ahzpayne]

Probably just the one's knowingly purchasing weapons for their troubled teens. Same as the white ones you want us to stop worrying about to join you in admiring Grandpa's shit ideals.

[@sosatisfying2486]

Typically gang members are of age and their parents don’t go out buying them guns, hope this helps. There was also a case on 2023 Virginia where a 6 year old boy shot a teacher and his mother was sentenced as well, I’ve also heard other school shooting cases where the parents were sentenced. This case is not special, I’m seeing comments where people are crying “mental health” there always seems to be a deflection for white mass shooters but for other races it’s always they’re thugs, their parents are incompetent, their parents deserve xyz or other racially motivated comments but for this it’s nothing but coddling

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

imo the parents, including all Chicago parents , black or white , should be charged IF they were told to not give their kids access to firearms. however, the police offers/ organization that knew this kid was dangerous but still let him free should be charged as well. that's serious incompetence

[@angel794]

Who is "targeted"? What the heck are you doing talking about? Mass shooters who are identified and found are either arrested or shot and killed by police, if they don't surrender. Shooters target themselves. I don't know if any of the shooters has a person of color, if that's what you are on about. The ones I have seen in news have been young, white males. I have not heard of any school shootings perpetrated by a person of color. BTW, fyi, prosecutors are attorneys who represent the state in criminal trials. They don't draft or otherwise create legislation. Unless a parent meets a state's requirements for being held legally liable for the actions of his or her child, that parent will not be convicted of anything. Those injured or killed may file a civil lawsuit against the parent for the child's actions. In that case, civil law applies, not criminal law, so the liability requirements are somewhat different and monetary damages can be awarded to the plaintiffs. There is no jail time involved in civil lawsuits.

[@robertharris3128]

There are so many fundamental reasons why you cannot hold a parent responsible for their childs actions that, the only way this works is if you hold parents responsible for "ALL" criminal misconduct, not just the crimes that tear at your fears. My parents could not control me, and that goes for almost all teens growing up. I am not saying this parent is not responsible, all I am saying is, you cannot pick and choose. If you going to draw that line, you have to draw it thick and across the entire playing field.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

Ok, can we have actual mental health services now? Can someone get humane long term or permanent care on the states dime if they need it?

[@Akainuthestrongestadmiral105]

No. Having more mental health services will make it worse. Stop pushing tbe crazy narrative on people. Therapy, titling mental illnesses, these things make people crazier. Maybe people should be more compassionate and not bully people.

[@SoundofSilence492]

Thank Reagan.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@SoundofSilence492 Oh, I know, the man was a demon.

[@atillathehungry3145]

You don't think loading supposed ADD kids up with speed has anything to do with the rise in mental illness anong kids?

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@atillathehungry3145 No, that's not how that works.

[@jvanek8512]

They need to start prosecuting the parents of underage intercity gang criminals

[@yoshiramar1992]

That would be better than this case. A lot of wana be gangsters Rome around causing issues and they never harras those parents

[@j.daniels1548]

@@yoshiramar1992 you say anything is better than holding you people accountable, for supplying your demon spawn children firearms to commit domestic terrorism

[@jamesherron9969]

Gross negligence, then why is the Democratic Party not being charged for there role in blocking schools Security funds

[@V-so9lj]

There are cops in every school. Wtf are you talking about??

[@christophero1969]

Why are the REPUBLICANs blocking gun control laws??? The DEMOCRATS love to spend money on police, they did and still do at my old high school.

[@RidgeWalker-jw1rr]

America needs to remember that if the child is under 18 years of age, the parents are 100% responsible for it.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

Except when the education system doesn't like it.

[@threepercenter0371]

Parents are not notified when a kid wants to tranz...

[@ostrichman]

@@threepercenter0371 really thats mental...how many times has this happened? Have you any links to some evidence of this?

[@P_D-px6iv]

​​@@ostrichmanThe only parents not notified if their children is identifying that way is parents that are an obvious threat to the child's well being Why? Because many kids have been almost killed by their parents simply for identifying that way Maybe if yall (parents) weren't trying to maime and execute your kids for identifying a certain way the schools wouldn't have to protect them Right?

[@cutepuppy2422]

What about African American mommas?

[@TheJestersDoor]

Don't care, didn't ask. Time for justice.

[@madigan1323]

I don't think she needs to downplay the legal precedent that was set by the Crumbley case. It was high time that a deeper look needed to be taken into why these horrific crimes take place. It needs to go further than just parents though. The American family has fallen apart in the wake of needing two incomes and both parents to work. And that's only one facet in this complicated issue.

[@justinfleming5119]

She doesn't want it seen as precedent because she doesn't want it to be noticed that authorities sat by and watched thousands of minor perpetrated homicides pass waiting for a white parent to prosecute.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

Conditions in schools should take a lot of the blame too.

[@resistyranny_0992]

This is bs and it bothers me that parents are getting charged.

[@debrafirestone861]

It’s Dja vue all over again

[@jerryphillips438]

When we take God out of schools evil will fill the void.

[@santi.9090]

Why don't we convict ALL parents of underage criminals.

[@BabyMaharaja0]

they'll say it's racist if the family is non white

[@iDeagles]

🤷🏿‍♀️

[@DiarrheaChopper]

Does that include for there whole life?

[@bradmiller7486]

Just because its UNCONSTITUTIONAL?

[@sosatisfying2486]

Because ALL underage criminals don’t have parents helping them commit crimes. Hope this helps

[@chuckles2040]

there is a mountain of evidence.. against the STATE that failed the child and community. However you not seeing those same charges against the School leadership, Deputy, FBI investigator? They are the professionals, the dad is not. yet the dad gets charged???!!!???!!! charge then state first.

[@larsolsen2424]

The black teen who put a white girl in a coma, her mother should go to prison.

[@tiffaniejones5826]

Why are you playing the race card? Are you a DEI case?

[@zazasnruntz7505]

Lol focus on keeping your whyt kids from oding

[@DimeCutie]

I’m glad she didn’t.

[@vacantSuburbia]

@@DimeCutieYou are part of the problem. When you have evil attitudes like that, you deserve punishment in life. Karma will get you.

[@vacantSuburbia]

@@DimeCutie Make no mistake, ain’t nothing cute about your fake hair and eyelashes. You are the problem on this planet.

[@Jay57T]

This video is focused on the prevention side of the coin, which is fine, but these events will happen from time to time. Is it such a radical idea to provide protection to our schools so they don’t continue to be soft targets?

[@charlestonjew7587]

Murders aside, the parent(s) supplied a minor with deadly firearm(s), which is unquestionably illegal and that alone, carries a maximum sentence of up to 10 years. If a crime and especially murder is committed as a direct result, the prosecutor can absolutely charge the parent(s) with criminal negligence, accessory to murder and anything in between once the initial charge has been established. There is no question whether the parent(s) should be charged.

[@DGone1]

Only yt kids

[@DiarrheaChopper]

Is that the law in Georgia? Minors can't have guns.

[@tiffaniejones5826]

@@DGone1Why are you playing the race card? Are you a DEI case? Are you an affirmative action case?

[@steelgoodwin]

So if this action against parents is continuing, will this mean parents suffer the same consequences for reckless children driving?

[@ryanjacobson2508]

If a kid threatened to run someone over and then a parent let their kid borrow their car.... People can be charged as accessories to crimes you know.

[@DestructoDisk]

​@@ryanjacobson2508the example you just gave is THE example used to show how stupid your argument is.

[@vicdw823]

I guess I’ll never teach my kids how to shoot a weapon or a firearm, because keeping my kids safe must mean, never letting them touch the firearm according to this woman. 2:59

[@user-ho3dk4pg8y]

I agree with this 100%

[@angel794]

That is not what she means or said. There is no legal prohibition against parents use of guns to teach their kids target shooting or hunting. Parents have to supervise their kids when they use deadly weapons. That is just sensible parenting.

[@angel794]

​@@user-ho3dk4pg8yYou are mistaken also

[@denised5733]

I think I know your meaning... you see I'm of the era my high school there were many trucks with shotgun rack in the back window full.. guns are not the problem our country's mental illnesses

[@tiffaniejones5826]

You are from an entirely different world than me. As a child, my parents NEVER let me touch a firearm. What would possess a parent to give a child a firearm?

[@derekpierkowski7641]

Shady vance says " SHUT up and get USED TO IT"!

[@toneacusbebadacus2874]

This woman is ridiculous

[@RenW-qy5ro]

You are your kind is and America needs to deal with it full force

[@RenW-qy5ro]

This is why America schools and communities need segregation Get out

[@RenW-qy5ro]

Look in the mirror and say that to the image you stare at

[@keithkorthals6183]

I dont agree with holding another person accountable . You will see this expanded and expanded to other cases as well. It will be your fault just because you knew the person.

[@threepercenter0371]

Parents are responsible...and yet schools groom kids without parent consent. SMH

[@cutepuppy2422]

Communism

[@vicdw823]

Yet they won’t stop bullying.

[@B1Speech]

How do you know these school shooters were bullied..Stop reaching and twisting yourself into pretzel to justify his hideous actions..

[@iwantorbs]

How do you stop bullying?

[@madigan1323]

@modest-q5l what bullying? This was a new school for him. He didn't even know the names of his victims!

[@ostrichman]

@@iwantorbs you just do. thats the answer

[@johnDingoFoxVelocity]

Bull the parents should be held accountable

[@clark8712]

So, do politician's behavior get them charged when they didn't do a crime? How about these judges and prosecutors, what charges will they get when they fail the community far more than these parents failed this kid. Being charged with a crime you had absolutely nothing to do with, is just the worst step in the wrong direction.

[@denised5733]

Agree 1000%

[@tiffaniejones5826]

How does a parent have nothing to do with their child’s behavior? Who raised the child? The community, the school, legislators, the criminal justice system are not raising the child. That’s the parents’ job!

[@richardhead6184]

​@@tiffaniejones5826ok fair enough, so when are all of the parents in the inner cities being arrested for violent crimes their children commit?

[@njgfpv3696]

Will we hold parents accountable that let their kids transition and then cause sexual crimes after? I am alright with this.

[@recursiveslacker7730]

Low effort troll

[@njgfpv3696]

@@recursiveslacker7730 You are so brainwashed you think that is a troll?

[@creativelyengineered4993]

I am in Georgia. Kids that are doing copy-cat threats are getting arrested left-and-right here. The posture of authorities has changed; If parents are not proactively teaching their kids, the law will.

[@verlanderickson1702]

Imagine what the end game would of been with armed teachers?????????.

[@RajHarrousYoutubeChannel]

What do you imagine it to be?

[@drzaius1121]

Schools with armed staff already exist. And in fact, have prevented shootings. Armed staff saves lives.

[@nndo6953]

Lady, regardless how you contemplate and process Oxford, it is precedent.

[@michaelkuhn402]

I'm so glad parents are now getting charged. They will now be watching more what their kids are doing.

[@RenW-qy5ro]

Wait til it’s you next

[@RenW-qy5ro]

Get out of America

[@tiffaniejones5826]

@@RenW-qy5roIt won’t be him next because he’s watching his child does. It’s called being a parent.

[@RenW-qy5ro]

@@tiffaniejones5826 he was a good dad he taught his boy how to shoot

[@CurtisJeffries-cd5vu]

r we jus gonna ignore the zim/zer question? this is lookin awfully similar to wut happened LAST TIME. is it gonna take another year til we start learning wut this creep was writin?

[@emirkulovic713]

If 14 year.old child kills people at own school.... patents aunt grandparents siblings EVERBODY IS GOING TO F* JAIL !!!!

[@brianglenney8642]

Calm down Kim.

[@Matt-vt4fg]

No.

[@keithkorthals6183]

Agree. This is guilt by association and inappropriate.

[@oszon]

Are they charging the mother also? “Parents” should both be accountable?

[@richardhead6184]

Odd I don't see a single parent being arrested in chicago or other inner cities for when minors commit violent crimes. Why is that? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@tiffaniejones5826]

Why is that? Why don’t you tell us? Are you seriously comparing those crimes to a mass shooting?

[@richardhead6184]

​@@tiffaniejones5826yes I am a "mass shooting" by definition is 3 or more people injured or worse from a shooting by definition that takes place all the time in those areas.

[@richardhead6184]

@@tiffaniejones5826 a mass shooting by definition is 3 or more injured In shooting. So yes I am comparing the 2 legal definitions are important, not emotional reactions

[@Shauntheduke.]

@@richardhead6184 how many of these are done because parents don’t lock up their guns or gave their kids guns. Yeah it’s sad that these kids find guns from gangs and shit and your right they should be charged as well.

[@richardhead6184]

@@Shauntheduke. I fundamentally disagree with the concept of charging someone for the actions of others. That's insane.

[@cjmerobot1204]

What would set precedent is to hold the educators responsible for demonizing and bullying children with DEI.

[@jjd-m3w]

how many inner city parents have been charged for killings? we HAVE 1000 shootings a year. WHERE ARE THE PARENTS BEING CHARGED?

[@kilroy987]

JD Vance says these shootings are a bleak 'fact of life' and argues against gun restrictions, saying they won't help, says to improve security instead.

[@shadowscreamer1]

Nope that’s not what he said. He said “it’s unfortunate that this is a fact of life “. Totally different than your MSM parroting, of which they printed a “retraction” tweet after being called out which obviously no one saw

[@shadowscreamer1]

And gun bans don’t work. Just look at the assault weapons ban in the 90s for proof

[@TuskKult]

@@shadowscreamer1It boggles my mind you even need to correct people on that, but thanks for doing so.

[@shadowscreamer1]

@@TuskKult yup

[@shadowscreamer1]

@@kilroy987 and if the schools were armed with combat vets, guaranteed this wouldn’t happen. A lot of them would live to do it

[@lisagardner5157]

America is AWASH with guns🇺🇲⚖️📌

[@kalijasin]

"bought his son the weapon" That in itself is a crime. See, 18 U.S. Code § 922; GA Code § 16-11-13

[@RenW-qy5ro]

In a foreign police terrorist country but not America Go home

[@last69gto]

When will parents be responsible for their children being bullies