Oasiss 26 : More Rockets, Decor and Cooling : Oxygen not included

[@saeklin]

Average Player: (finally launches their first steam rocket and decides they've had enough) Francis John: "So its cycle 1700. I've excavated the entire map, melted the indestructible Gravitas relics, mass-produced liquid oxygen and hydrogen, filled the top of the map with rockets, harnessed the entire magma biome's heat for power, replaced it with ice, and my dupes eat nothing but burgers."

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's important to have hobbies.

[@ilshat2955]

@Proud Lover Of Cluelessness Well, according to steam global achievements: only 10.6% enter an oil biome, 5.0% reach cycle 365.25, and 2.2% launch their first rocket.

[@pairot01]

@@ilshat2955 it is quite an intimidating game, I best the majority don't make it past coal power.

[@trulers8713]

when I first got the game I unknowingly cooked my base because of a single metal forge. When my plants stopped growing i took a 2 year long break. mostly because i forgot the game existed.

[@tejing2001]

When cooling super coolant, I think you need a little under 1.5 turbines per aquatuner to run it continuously, so 3 turbines to cool 2 aquatuners, rather than the other way around.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I did not bring enough cooling to this, good job I left the space for visco gel lock, time to go back in and expand the area.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I did not bring enough cooling to this, good job I left the space for visco gel lock, time to go back in and expand the area.

[@Everdyin1]

Astronaut: Jean Luc Dupecard to boldly go where no dupe has gone before

[@instazx2]

20:45 "haven't run the numbers" ... Brothgar's channel is thattaway ->

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I do like running numbers, but sometimes I like to wing it and pay for my mistakes later.

[@Shakis87]

[@esaedromicroflora1247]

Oasiss is trying to crush me with heat - I will survive ! thanks for all awesome content

[@FrancisJohnYT]

So long as you got hatches you will survive.

[@wreckcelsior]

Now all the game needs is an ice-skates rental booth for your future frozen core. cheers for the vid Francis.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Also need about 2816 tons of water to go with that, might have to leave this running over night.

[@peter-klausnikolaus4823]

I love your base! There's potentially still some free power in your system. Since it's not hooked onto your main grid, it isn't really necessary because you made it just for cooling purposes. However here's the math saying you could run 2 more turbines almost on max Wattage. 3 aquatuners each running 10kg super coolant (8.44 DTU/g/K) heating it +14 K produce heat equal to: 3 * 10 kg/s * 8.4 DTU/g/K * 14 K = 3528 kDTU/s One steam Turbine can efficiently eat 2 kg/s of steam (4.2 DTU/g/K) cooling it from 200° to 95° (-105 K). That equals a heating of: 2 kg/s * 4.2 DTU/g/K * 105 K = 882 kDTU/s To efficiently match the heating of the 3 Aquatuners on super coolant you'd need 4 steam turbines.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Looks like I'm expanding the steam turbine cooling section.

[@riotintheair]

Using super-coolant in the AT's you need exactly 1.5 turbines per AT to keep up with them at full blast. Otherwise they will overheat in the long run, or shutdown due to temperature control automation, because heat deletion does not exceed the heat transfer so you're piling DTU's into the steam chamber.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Couple of visco gel liquid locks and I broke in and installed two more turbines and an Aquatuner.

[@NelsonGuedes]

You are turning the entire magma biome into a frozen core!? You mad genious!! :O XD

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I had some water and steam power lying around, idea came up with itself :)

[@Beregorn88]

When running aquatuner on supercoolant, you need three steam turbines every two aquatuner: in theory they would be perfectly balanced, both in power and heat transfer. In practice, they will run around 185°C and loose around a KJ per cycle, but since you already have 5 steam turbines running at top capacity that shouldn't be an issue.

[@sad5909]

The road to a frozen core.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

is paved with insulation.

[@JDPlays]

Astronaut: Mark Watney Space Pirate

[@der_schweizer_244]

me: nice a new Video *klick* *2mins later* me: dangit its over i woud watch you stream on twitch even if its paint drying on a wall!!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I can't, I just don't have the organisational skills to manage it.

[@686Impulse686]

Now this is turning out to be one project I am really looking forward to the result. First cool the Magma Core. Now replace it with a Frozen Core? This will be fun watch :)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's a slow project, I need to fill 3840 tiles of water give or take. I think I'll leave this running overnight.

[@enricobianchi4499]

Around 3:20 why is Vinny Van Dupe sleeping in the VACUUM OF SPACE

[@peter-klausnikolaus4823]

:) probably because the jet suit is just as comfortable as the regular cot Francis gave him...

[@FrancisJohnYT]

That makes no sense to me either, they have a bed, is the path back blocked? If they can't get back to the bed they should have starved to. This requires investigation.

[@rnrvlowry7854]

@@FrancisJohnYT Are they narcoleptic?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

@@rnrvlowry7854 I don't hire Narcoleptics, they are pretty terrible to level.

[@GamingStepByStep]

Nice tips with the bridges, I reckon it would be faster do do a long segment and cancel out the middle parts instead of drawing all the little paths

[@dustingmorgan]

I love the way you say Mafic Rock

[@TheGalifrey]

Going large is definitely the way to go, I was having loads of problems with too few dupes, up to 28 now, have a dupe gym, loads of cooling, food is starting to come through now and have massive decor with just cots. It works well!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The play style does lend itself to a bit of a decadent mid to late game if your computer can handle it.

[@TheTdw2000]

So THIS is how those frozen core asteroids are made

[@ganashal]

For astronauts, do you have a "Bubbles Aldrin" yet? I assume you must? Other more basic options are "HAL" and "Dave"

[@JessWLStuart]

It's way to late, but a space dupe named Spacey McSpaceface would have been awesome!

[@x35253]

Your fuel tanks and oxidizer tanks don't have to be right next to your engines. If you build your cargo modules on the bottom you can move your engines and all the piping up 5 or 10 blocks. Those blocks will drastically reduce the amount of steam they are exposed to and reduce the chance or overheating your fuel pipes.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm using pipes made of insulation with obsidian bridges, it's perfect insulation. I could run the hydrogen through a magma biome with this setup and it still would be fine. This is the reason Insulation is so cripplingly expensive.

[@tyraelpl]

Suggestion for anyone wanting to do this: jumbo batteries generate quite a lot of heat, better make like 2 rows of those in the steam room (the one with 5 turbines above) to squeeze out all the heat you can. Plus you make the battery heat work for you not against you.

[@Ralph2198]

Absolute mad lad

[@emilterman6924]

21:45 - You don't really need that oxygen for the steam turbines. You can just dump a bit of oil on the ground to allow heat transfer between the pipes and the steam turbine. It's easier if you're building it inside a vacuumed chamber.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I find the turbines flood really easily and if they do they are pain to fix.

[@1_1bman]

Astronaut name suggestions: The fiend The scoundrel The rapscallion The troublemaker The hellion The miscreant The culprit The wrongdoer The bastard The felon

[@1_1bman]

Some different suggestions if you would rather them be astronaut themed: The space fiend The space scoundrel The space rapscallion The space troublemaker The space hellion The space miscreant The space culprit The space wrongdoer The space bastard The space felon

[@nathanliteroy9835]

Cosmonauts might be named after Yuri Gagarin, Valetina Tereshkova (she's the first woman in space) and Alexei Leonov (first man to enter open space)

[@MascotCoding]

And the show goes on... thanks! :D

[@bonk2065]

U said around 18:20 that gold wires have a better temperature range than iron but iron melts at 1534.9C and gold melts at 1063.9C and hey both have and overheat temp of 125C

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I was going to use iron as it's cheap and hard to melt. Then I remembered I need all of it for steel. So that left me Gold or copper. I have no iron left right now, it's all been turned into steel :)

[@TheMule71]

Acconding to the wiki, with supercoolant you need exaclty 3 turbines to delete the heat transferred by 2 aquatuners. The 3:2 ratio is reversed if you use water as coolant, you need only 2 turbines for 3 aquatuners. So water 2:3, supercoolant 3:2.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Breaking in and modifying the setup now.

[@kelmor11]

for the compressed steam room, couldn't you build a modified "magma dropper" system to dump the salt water in from the geyser?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Completely forgot about the salt water geyser. There is so much water I forgot about a whole geyser :) I can't think of a simple way to get it into the steam room without exploit of massive risk. The danger is the heat could flash boil the water and the massively compressed steam could escape. Safe ways are Door compressor, petroleum puddle, pitcher pump with bottle emptier.

[@kelmor11]

@@FrancisJohnYT I was thinking something like door compressors to keep the steam apart from the water. As long as the doors are bad conductors it should be ok I think. "should" :P basically just moving 2 tiles of water at a time (going down to give the room to keep everything apart)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

@@kelmor11 It's the words should and 14,000kg of steam that make me nervous. That little box feels like a bomb, I have flash backs to the cooked slime biome full of steam at the start of the game. That was only a fraction of what that box contains.

[@kelmor11]

@@FrancisJohnYT All fair points :P your solution did work out in the end, though I think there is an interesting idea for some kind of cooker built to clean salt/polluted water in "the future"!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

@@kelmor11 I was thinking that the ability to scrub salt water and get 95C clean water for nothing was great. The hard part is creating a heat source big enough, the last one was not exactly a quick build :)

[@commonsense-og1gz]

can you build an insulated hydrogen pipe out of ceramic?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

You can and I have done it in the past. You loop it the same way I did with the O2 pipe. The Hydrogen does a loop and then goes back to the tank for re-chilling.

[@primalflower7253]

In a (metaphorical) vacuum, is using a volcano for petroleum boiling better than using it for geothermal power via steam turbines?

[@Majromax]

Yes. A single volcano will put out at most about 1.5kg of magma/second. If converted entirely to power via steam turbines, that will generate about 2.4kW. In contrast, even the smallest of minor volcanoes can run a petroleum boiler, which generates about 10kW of power. The boiler looks even better when you factor in the excess water produced. Additionally, "excess" volcano magma can still be devoted to power generation. It requires a more complicated design, however -- perhaps featuring a magma tank that has multiple tap-offs at different elevations.

[@primalflower7253]

@@Majromax thanks for telling me. I sort of already knew, but making a steam turbine thing instead of a petro boiler is much easier for me and i wanted someone to encourage me to not take the easy way out

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Go for it, the first one is the hardest. But once you get one running it changes how you play the game forever.

[@primalflower7253]

@@FrancisJohnYT imgur.com/a/4nKehQE [spongebob narrator] 2 weeks later

[@S_Black]

Is there any point in anything above maximum decor? I understand the game mechanics around decor, but it always looks a bit silly when I see bases with dozens of statues everywhere :) I think I'll do some shinebug ranching in my current game for decor. Eventually. Doesn't work during sleep though

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I have a tendency to take things a little further than they need to go. I Like to think of my decor plan as 1 floor out of every 4 is dedicated to decor. That is 25% of the available space. A guaranteed +12 moral for making your base 25% larger is a good trade in my book.

[@nirodper]

yes you really need more steam turbines, an aquatuner on supercoolant generates 1181.6 kDTU/s and a steam turbine can destroy a maximum net 789.83 kDTU/s

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'll have to upgrade the area, but first I want to start dumping my cool steam vents in there.

[@maks4285]

Shepard. Eugene Shepard, because everyone remembers the last name of Astronauts.

[@richard2mitchell]

can you do alittle video (i mean like 30 sec to 2 mins at most) on how to bypass the tunners if the temp is to low?....my P.water keeps turning to ice at -22 and i have tryed 5 times and i cant seem to find ANYTHING that helps my brain learn how to do it lol

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Check out cool steam vent taming JyvRA80cPm4 time stamp 10:44 covers everything to do with it even how to break and fix it.

[@KW42ON]

When one Ladder destroyes perfect decor symmetrie. I bet your Artist got an OCD attack. XD

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm trying not to look at it, really really hard.

[@thesentientneuron6550]

Please name one of them Michael Collins. He was the only member of the Apollo 11 crew that didn't land on the moon. So I thought it would be nice if he could land somewhere, even if it's in a game

[@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s]

Please name one a̶s̶t̶r̶o̶n̶a̶u̶t̶ cosmonaut "Comrade Yuri Gagarin"

[@denzuk993]

yes comrade

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It is done and a crime it was not done sooner. First man in space, guy had balls of steel.

[@MrOssyan]

Would it not be more effective /timewise/ if you run your water trough 3 aquatuners directly then trying to cool it with loops ?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Was thinking about that, but for now I want to get the water to about 0 C. If I run the coolant through three at once I will lose temp control and will have to work with a range of 42C instead of 14C.

[@Helicard]

The fast save mod may reduce your save times.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I changed it to every 10 cycles and that has reduced the pain significantly.

[@instazx2]

So the water tank is 256 (?) cells wide, but your cooling loop is about 8 tiles wide. How are you going to spread the chill?

[@NeoFryBoy]

I'm sure he'll be putting up some tempshift plates next video. Or he could set up pumps to move the water around.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I figure I'll solve it my usually way, throw power at the problem. If I reduce the temp of the water in the cold area to -250C then the chill should spread out the necessary distance. I never claimed to be subtle.

[@_Lord_BoNes]

For an astronaut name: Major Tom. "Ground control to Major Tom"

[@coldwetn0se172]

Was just going to make that suggestion. ;)

[@Kripthmaul]

How do you keep that monstruous exosuit setup filled with oxygen? I have eleven and my 2 spoms cant keep up :x

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I can't keep up, I have the potential to produce 6kg of O2 a second. I have a pipe of 1kg each dedicated to 10 exo suit docks. So 60 docks total. The only problem is the dupes like to use the first 10 docks the most so they are usually always bone dry. But with scheduling it works out.

[@walljaik]

Cpt Kirk , Ltn uhura, Spock, Ltn Sulu... dedicated to explore the universe

[@Thingsyourollup]

Du'Pol

[@ohmiohwa4199]

7 K Soon so soon

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's like playing an RPG, my stats keep going up the more I play.

[@TheBigEmstos]

Can you do a video on morale?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Got you covered, skip to 6:41 that's when I start getting into moral. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXYZ5Z4aZmFoK8

[@newCoCoY6]

need help, newbie here, haven't launched a rocket yet. how do you get your rocket pilots in the command capsule. It says the command capsule needs a pilot wearing an Atmo Suit, but it seems your rocketry has Jet Suited duplicants riding it? does that mean i can just forget about atmo suits and just let jet suit dupes handle the piloting, no gantry needed?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The atmo suit is on top of whatever the dupe is wearing. A dupe should bring an atmo suit and deposit it in the command capsule. For the gantry you can ignore putting one in if the astro dupe has a jet suit they can fly into the rocket. (However they cannot fly out) Without a jet suit you can install a gantry and just deconstruct it when you are finished.

[@BusinessAnalyzer]

A "core prosthetic" 28:30? Transplant a magma core with an ice core on your map. Leave it to Francis.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I was killing time while waiting for insulation to be harvested. Seemed like a good idea at the time, I'm glad I did it.

[@josr]

SAAAFE GAAAME :P

[@truezulu]

Eal Narmstrong?

[@Akronymus_]

Do you think that a vacuum base would ever be viable?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

You could do it, but I'm not sure you would want to risk it. As it is when my dupes inevitably get stranded somewhere they have nearby O2 they can gasp when they pop off their atmo helmets. With nothing but vacuum fatalities will go way up. Playing a hot map I have scalded more dupes than I can count.

[@Velokotique]

Astronaut name: Dupiy Mi-Marin

[@thek3317]

astronaut name suggestion = Neil Strongarm

[@brendankaduboski63]

First Comment! I bet you could make the map even hotter, but completely freeze one area!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm going to make a frozen core if I can get enough water :)

[@barshtoyer1806]

Niel legstrong

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm going to give that a thumbs up for sticking to the letter of the law but ignoring the spirit of the law, I applaud sir.

[@bashkovb5773]

What about John Crichton as an astronaut name? Also you said to me you were playing a hot map, and you shouldn't cool down the core :P

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I have Farscape in as the name of a rocket but would have liked to have Crichton in as well. I'm only cooling the core the rest of the map can remain toasty.

[@Thingsyourollup]

Rocky McRocketface

[@williambruyette8975]

Ranger Rick

[@jairo8746]

Dupe Aldrin.

[@easonade6028]

The comment section: nOT eNOuGH ARmStrOngS

[@ivantomasic7950]

Dupe Musk for astronaut

[@archangel9362]

Terra Nova =/

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Terra Nova got to be the name of a rocket :)

[@69Jynx69]

Gene Cernan last man to set foot on the moon