Obedience is the Only Response to Authority

[@nathanngumi8467]

Word St. Joan of Arc, pray for us!

[@anng.4542]

Eight years later, in 2024, starting around (10:00), this sermon may be helpful to many Catholics who are trying to discern what appear to be attempts on the part of the hierarchy itself to outlaw reverent behavior and to redefine the 2000 year old truths of our faith.

[@paxcoder]

The video teaches to obey a lawful command which is not immoral. The pope is the legitimate authority and is instructing you to do something that is not immoral, therefor you are obliged to obey. See the part "Obedience in Hierarchy", 17:30 (the example of st. Louis de Montfort)

[@suemceachern2175]

This is amazing what Fr. said about the death penalty considering how Pope Francis changed the catechism just last week. This is from 2015.

[@michaelrex6948]

Question- I usually would not post this question online; however, this seems to be Traditional and very helpful, and I trust many of the viewers are also. I am an Altar Server at my local parish (_Novus Ordo_ Mass). I consider myself Traditional, and am accustomed to kneeling to receive the Blessed Sacrament. Last April, I believe, a series of dictates concerning "uniformity of reverence" were handed down to the ministers, the first of which was that we were not to kneel to receive Holy Communion. I could not find anything against this initially, so I accepted it. This July, I was at my Diocese's _Quo Vadis_ retreat. By that point, I had been exposed to many SSPX/Sedevacantist arguments, and raised questions based on them whilst speaking to one of the Seminarians (his answers were exceptional, and I have no objections to the Church's Doctrine); however, he also gave me a source specifically about kneeling to receive Holy Communion. It was a letter by the Congregation for the Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. I am sure many of you are familiar with it. Included therein is a statement to the effect of: no one is to be denied Holy Communion on basis of his preference to kneel, nor be accused of disobedience or of acting illicitly for choosing to do so. This was in response to many complaints that Bishops and Priests were condemning kneeling to receive the Sacrament. A series of other issues followed in the name of "uniformity of reverence", the rest of which have been resolved; however, the ministers are still told to stand to receive the Sacrament (in fact, they were told not even to genuflect- merely bow profoundly). Sadly, upon asking for the source to defend my conscience's preference, I was met with the attitude that I should not argue. I asked for the information regardless, and agreed not to argue. I am no longer willing to force myself to obey the command to stand- as far as I will go for the sake of obedience is to stand for the remainder of the scheduling period, which means about three more times-, and hence am stepping down from the post of Altar Server (I am hoping to become an Altar Server at the nearest Church with a TLM; however, that's an hour and a half away, and I still don't have my driver's license). Deacon, the Altar Server coordinator, and one of my fellow Altar Servers (a phenomenal and very reverent Server who is a year my younger) all dislike my decision. It so happens that I am discerning for the Priesthood (FSSP specifically, due to my Traditional nature), and Deacon, knowing this, made the comment that it would appear bad in the eyes of my Vocations Director and the Seminary's Superior were I to step down, as I may appear disobedient. I countered saying that no one would mistake my choice for disobedience if he had even a slight understanding of the situation; however, because of the opposition, I am beginning to wonder if my choice is questionable, or could in some way be considered disobedience. I would appreciate any advice or suggestions you may have. Thank you. _Spera in Deo, quoniam adhuc confitebor illi, salutare vultus mei, et Deus meus._

[@SensusFidelium]

+Michael Rex email me [e-mail] and I'll hook you up with my brother, a seminarian, as we went through all that. I've been yelled at by 2 priests for kneeling and had other diocese priests blast that priest for doing it.

[@michaelrex6948]

Sensus Fidelium Thank you.

[@mrsandmom5947]

Michael Rex What happened .

[@hornatham1487]

Michael Rex :The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the Concilliar Church another name Counterfeit Church lies will pass into history.Canon law must not be above Divine Law we Catholic Faithful keep this in our consciousness and conscience. Blind obedience is simply Mortal sin .

[@robert112uk]

Dear brother kneel EVERY time in reverence to Our Lord and our God no matter what the evil fruit of Vatican 2 says. Standing and receiving in the hand is SACRILEGE and no priest or Pope can command us to commit SACRILEGE. Kneel every time. I sincerely hope you become a priest, we need many more like you.

[@jbmjbm2145]

telling the faithful that post conciliar popes have committed heresy isn't disobedience

[@chrisjackson9876]

How’s that philosophy working out since Traditionis Custodes? Also Francis reversed the position on the death penalty. Has the priest who gave the homily submitted to authority on both of these matters?

[@joematties7557]

This was all an attack against the sspx and now the shoe is on their foot it's "different now"

[@btbbtb2863]

Can a bishop with legitimate authority suspend public masses? Are we required to obey this? Can people attend covert masses or is this disobedient? What is Church law on this?

[@chris-solmon4017]

And now Toto has begun to pull back the curtain. Excellent points. The ones causing the problems are the ones pretending that they have nothing to do with the cause. Everything is a sacrifice to them. A ritual carried out by entire governments.

[@bonifamanlover]

I love this condemnation of capital punishment was said 3 years prior to pope francis opposing papal history. We need to pray for him and those pushing him to do crazy things.

[@TeutonicWarrior]

False obedience, we must resist the Pope who teaches against the faith. St. Cajatan.

[@sue-by7sh]

Didn't Thomas Aquinas say we should obey our conscience?

[@peakperformancetrain]

Listen to 11:19 to 12

[@patsyk1213]

Obedience is NOT the only response to authority. St. Paul resisted Peter to his face because Peter was to be blamed...per Holy Scriptures. Several holy saints and theologians have written that we should oppose a pope who attempts to harm the body...and we should oppose a pope who attempts to harm the Church.

[@gray_mara]

If you actually watched the video, you would know that he covered this in detail. Our first obedience is to God. We are to be obedient when it doesn't contradict our obedience to a higher authority, when a legitimate superior is acting in the scope of their authority. He gives the example: "We must disobey a priest in order to be obedient to a bishop. We mist disobey a bishop in order to obey the Pope. We must disobey the Pope in order to obey God." If it is simply a matter of pride and independence, indulging our self will and self righteousness, not a matter of obedience to a higher authority, then our disobedience is sinful.

[@vasilebulbuc4007]

Beautiful

[@martinciglenecki526]

Our archdiocese says masks are obligated when attending mass. Must we obey this edict?

[@leticialozano5042]

Does this harm your faith in any way? Will one be condemned to hell for wearing a mask in mass? Of course not. submitting to authority, even if what we’re asked to do is unnecessary, is what we’re supposed to do. And it’s a very humbling thing. Satan doesn’t listen to authority, nor can he practice humility. So we know 100% we must in cases like these. As long as we don’t sin

[@martinciglenecki526]

@@leticialozano5042 Thanks for the food for thought and well-articulated response. I would say, it does. It's pretty evident that masks are a precursor to the compelled vaccination program which is definitely part of an antichristic system. I believe it to be a humiliation ritual imposed upon us by elites and naively accepted by most bishops (for a myriad of reasons) as "for the public good." Would love your feedback.

[@chris-solmon4017]

@@leticialozano5042 - there’s no hope for you.

[@leticialozano5042]

@@chris-solmon4017 why do you say that

[@CitySlickerBallKicker]

@@leticialozano5042 If the church only knew what the mask and 6 ft a part originated from, the obedience to that ritual is beyond heresy, but occultist. When the Church fails to teach who and what satan is, and the likes.... then we will blindly fall for his trickery because even Devil disguises himself as an angel of light. Nobody teaches about discernment anymore

[@cleomanuel4459]

❤🙏Amen

[@chris-solmon4017]

Obedience to man is NOT a virtue. Authority literally means “to invent”, from the Latin root word ‘auctoritatem.’ It’s where we get the word ‘author,’ as in an author of FICTION. Doctrines are from the word DOCTOR - as in “these papers have been doctored; FALSIFIED.”

[@anthonyp4561]

Claiming that the Church cannot teach that the Death Penalty is wrong under most circumstances and then calling for obedience is hilarious. This should be labeled as black comedy.

[@claylippert7203]

Anthony P That’s not true, because the legitimacy of the death penalty is dogma and from revelation, which no pastor of the Church can ever change.