Diet and Death | Dr. Peter Attia | EP 360

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia discuss healthspan, lifespan, obesity, the profound difference simple changes can make, diseases such as cancer and diabetes, and realistic ways you can actively work toward a higher quality of life.
Dr. Peter Attia is a renowned physician and longevity expert, specializing in metabolic health and performance optimization. With a background in mechanical engineering and a medical degree from Stanford University School of Medicine, Dr. Attia brings the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan and simultaneously improving their healthspan. Through his podcast, "The Drive," and his website, he shares insights on longevity, nutrition, and human performance. Possessed by his passion for helping individuals achieve optimal health, he combines science, data analysis, and personalized care to inspire others to prioritize metabolic health and lead fulfilling lives.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:11) Intro
(1:23) Lifespan v. healthspan
(5:18) Cognitive decline and exercise
(10:30) Why exercising is difficult to start
(12:10) The benefit from going zero to three hours a week
(14:33) Setting positive behaviors
(17:36) Weightlifting and Cardiovascular exercise
(20:33) Grip strength is a great marker for life span
(22:03) Sarcopenia: loss of muscle mass due to age
(23:10) Rucking as a means to bypass cardio plateaus
(25:20) The best exercise for your lower body
(26:00) Eccentric strength: why the elderly fall
(27:37) Working up to height
(28:47) Diabetes, metrics of testing
(32:13) Decline in insulin sensitivity
(35:01) The difference between healthy and nearly dying
(38:47) What your eye doctor can see
(41:34) How much fat your body can actually store
(45:30) In awe of the liver, how glucose is stored in fat
(48:01) The food pyramid was not produced by scientists
(50:35) The Standard American Diet is SAD
(54:04) Are all calories created equal?
(58:23) Arthritis and diet
(1:00:01) Scientific literature on the carnivore diet
(1:02:41) Restrictive diets, weight loss and inflation
(1:09:09) Appetite and endurance on restriction diets
(1:11:52) Concentration benefits
(1:14:35) Cancer hits its peak first
(1:16:57) What’s happening when cancer spreads, self v. non self
(1:20:14) What you can do about cancer prevention
(1:24:12) The challenge in optimal screening
(1:27:32) Lesser known drivers for cancer
(1:29:05) Almost no research funding goes towards prevention
(1:30:51) Where should the resources go?
(1:33:30) Youth and exercise, standing desks
(1:34:37) The system does not do what the name says it does
(1:35:33) Emotional health and longevity
(1:37:33) Fear, lockdowns, and mental impact
(1:38:46) Self care
(1:41:04) Through the lens of a patient
(1:43:05) Self Authoring and Future Authoring
(1:46:30) A three pronged plan for healthspan
(1:47:31) The marginal decade exercise
(1:49:18) You need a reason to change
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[@mathieuboilard9017]

I'm a professional researcher in cell biology and I consider this interview to be some of the best info you can find on the web.

[@HighlifeQuincy-vb1tx]

You should post some videos dude

[@jaredv.92]

I’m a professional computer engineer and I also think this is a great video

[@kenadams5504]

Its interesting that we only spend o.oooo1% of healthcare money on prevention of chronic illness, when prevention actually works and treatment ( 99.9999% of healthcare ) only manages symptoms.

[@privatecoachingchannel4818]

I was thinking very similar. Sports Scientist of 25 years and this guy explains things, using metaphors, in a way I haven’t heard before and I read around these subjects a lot. Both Peter and Jordan are excellent

[@SCORP1ONF1RE]

I’m a cheeto eating gamer and I also think this is a great video.

[@rosemariekimball5787]

I am 72 female with a family history of severe depression and bipolar disorder. In addition, type 2 diabetes is rampant in my family. I have been exercising almost daily for over 35 years. Exercise has been my savior. I've never needed medication to manage my depression and thankfully, I am healthy.

[@drchrisgrayson2042]

Wow such is great keep exercing it keeping you health

[@JeffMTX]

That’s great!

[@elizabethk3238]

Similar to me. I'm 75.

[@kiaharper7172]

I also self medicated with exercise in my 20s. Kept me from self harm I'm pretty sure. The gym and dancing my ass off every Thursday, Friday, Saturday with my sister on the Square 😂. I was so damn fit.... I've become more sad and chaotic and realized I almost never exercise anymore. Just work, ruminate, sleep, cry... I have gained 30lbs in the last 3 yrs. Kicking it into gear NOW.

[@JeffMTX]

@@kiaharper7172 Attack it my friend. Life is an adventure! Sometimes, though, it's cool to be lazy, but after a while we gotta jump on the horse and get back into the race. The race is exciting :)

[@gioxpfr]

I started Keto about 2 months ago. Then saw videos on Carnivore diet. I saw JP's video on Joe Rogan about his experience on the Carnivore diet. Also his daughter's video. I've been following Dr Chaffee, Dr Ken Burns, and Dr Shawn Baker. Also a regular guy tracking his personal experience with Carnivore at Homestead Now on KZbin. They convinced me to try it. I'm having the same experience as JP on it. I'm almost 60. My energy level is through the roof. I'm power walking every day. I've hit the gym 3 days this week lifting weights like a 20yr old. I haven't felt like this in about 20 years. I just had lab work done and everything was great. I'm type 2 diabetic and have struggled keeping my A1C below 8.5. My medicine wasn't doing it. Now I'm 5.5 in the normal range. My triglycerides were about 300. Now around 100. The only thing out of range was my B12. It was high which the doc said was not bad. I'm usually very low in B12. I'm feeling so good now. I had fibromyalgia, arthritis. After working out to my max on everything, I'm not sore at all. Joints and muscles feel great. I've eaten a few carbs here and there and when I do, it has a very noticeable negative effect on my body in a very short time. Bloating, gas, reflux, heartburn, tired. My sinuses have been crystal clear. Last night I had some of a dish with noodles and an hour later, my sinuses got stopped up and I was coughing up a ton of mucous. I've put my dog on carnivore too. A 7yr old black lab who was very overweight, always hungry, had bad joint pains, very sluggish. She shed hair like crazy and had a lot of eye goop every day in both eyes. I feed her bacon and eggs, Ribeyes. We walk every day. She has literally lost half her weight and looks like she did when she was a puppy. She's full of energy now. No joint pain. She can jump and run again. No more eye goop and shedding is almost stopped. She's a very happy pup and doesn't beg me for food all day. No more kibble for her. No more dog food with plants in it anymore. She's getting the proper diet. As for cost, we both are eating much less so I think it all evens out. I'm planning on coming off all meds soon. All supplements too. Just red fatty meat. Beef!

[@davidjarvis7966]

That's awesome, I'm just a week into an all meat diet hoping for your success.

[@darinweets3281]

I was inspired to try carnivore by JP too. I started June 6th, 2023. I weighed 430 lbs, had depression and anxiety. I didn't know I had those symptoms, I only knew I was fat and tired. Today I am 279 lbs and have energy to do what I want and more importantly I have the drive to do what I need. It has changed my life completely and I thank Jesus for this newest chapter in my life.

[@poptarget]

You're right about the mucous. I started keto 2 months ago. I don't get the mucous build up in the throat and have to clear my throat for an hour after, like I did after eating pasta, or bread or pastries, for example.

[@forester057]

Attia would put you on statins to keep you from feeling so good.

[@harifederer]

@@poptargetFunny, I eat lots of carbs and have no issues. Maybe your health uplift has come from eating less processed/junk food.

[@PrivateSchemers1]

"Dont let perfect be the enemy of good" - what a powerful but simple phrase, I had never heard it before. It motivated me into working out today, let it be known.

[@MrBenigi]

Amazing! Keep it up

[@lal3061]

Actually apply to pretty much everything in life: relationships, exercise, job/business, self improvement. Everything. The compounding of “good” over years yields much higher results than the seeking of perfection

[@awsambdaman]

This has been my mantra for a long time now. I’m constantly getting bogged down trying to make things perfect, and often times the stress of not being able to do something perfectly leads me to not even starting the thing. Good mantra to remember

[@RoseMary-gl4ee]

Of all the zillions of exercises, the BEST one is the one that you do..!

[@Roman-ht7rx]

Damn, every once in a while Dr Peterson gives us all these precious gems of knowledge for free. What an impact on society. Thank you, sir

[@4465Vman]

his book 12 rules is amazing the dudes a mazing

[@fingersm]

U2 must be real dummies

[@jimrutherford2773]

Dr. Attia is ok with his cancer talk but if you really want to prevent or deal with cancer listen to the world's foremost scientist on cancer, Dr. Thomas Seyfried.

[@SidharthGat]

absolutely agreed!

[@vanessarheadart9708]

​@@andyc7747met 2 type one teenage girls when I was a teenager back in the 90's they were best friends through their illness and neither ate any carbs and their diabetes was VERY under control they were very fit and atherletic, lean and tall, they mezmerized me and as I'd had an Auntie die from type one not long as after marriage their alternative way of life sparked a questioning about the main stream narrative that has lasted the rest of my life so far.

[@maristelasantos8714]

When your favourite psychologist meets your favourite doc for a chat. Thank you both for putting so much insightful content on the internet for free, so we can all work on ourselves and become better humans.

[@georgewagner7787]

I wish someone would talk about fatigue from chemo. I feel exhausted every morning from 20 years ago. Ive been to every doctor

[@brianmullins5824]

Well said couldn't agree with you more👏.

[@user-yq7xf2ss6e]

Dr peterson thank you for sharing your knowledge you helped saved my life I was addicted to fetenayl I was hospitalized for a month from a infection in my arm that almost killed me I been clean for two months through learning from people like you about life ,meditation ,and jiu-jitsu . Thanks so much I'm so grateful you helped save my life.

[@monicasmith6698]

​@@Rocksteady246 your opinion

[@m.koenigskind6479]

​@@georgewagner7787 do you know your Vitamin D Level in the blood? Maybe its too low?🤔 and also the magnesium Level? Best wishes

[@vondabethel5696]

Turned 49 this year, both parents passed with diabetes and hypertension and the chronic illnesses that those contribute too...I absolutely needed this information, God sent this video to me today, I already have type 2 diabetes and hypertension...3 hours a week is a miracle for me, and the changes I will be making after this video is as if I have recommitted my life to Christ after being a Christian for my entire life. Thank you so much! I am changed!

[@TheGipsonclan]

Absolute best wishes man!!!! So glad you are taking the wheel back on your health! It's never too late

[@jeremyjensen6832]

God bless you in this journey, my friend!!

[@BenT800]

Good for you and more blessing onwards

[@the-well-known-amir]

Its been 6 months. How are you?

[@vondabethel5696]

It's been 6 months and I have lost over 20 lbs...I have joined a weight loss program and meet weekly with a wellness coach I am working with a dietician that specializes in type 2 diabetes and my A1c has dropped 4 points. When I tell you I am changed I mean I still have a couple of health issues I am working on but overall I feel better and can't wait to see where I go from here!! Thank you for all your support and prayers 🙏

[@rhondatracy7093]

So glad I took the time to listen. I have been on the keto/carnivore diet for 4 months and I am now 118lbs. At 5' tall, it put me at a Normal wt and bmi for the first time in years. I am mentally sharper, I feel good, active. I should probably mention I am 67 yrs old.

[@ThriftingSquirrel]

That’s great! I’m trying to lose weight, and looking to do a similar diet. What’s worked for you?

[@2Tall_Powerlifting]

​@@ThriftingSquirrelread Atomic Habits by James Clear

[@nvarras7]

I turned 50 this year. I began listening to Dr. Attia. I joined a functional fitness gym. It is like my mind got a tune up. My body also. My problems seemed to become smaller and easier to deal with . I have neglected my health for years. My wife says I seem 15 years younger. I’m now starting to also clean house with toxic personalities around me. Tolerating people who are narcissistic is as toxic as drinking cyanide.

[@Oggiesilverfitness]

@nvarras7 That's great news. It's never too late to start.

[@stephenkarla7113]

Yes! Get negative people out of your life. They will drain you physically and mentally.

[@Tablahands]

You're absolutely correct. Narcissism leads to many people with failed health!

[@MoreChannelNoise]

It's not alwys that easy. I am the oposite. I exercise everyday for 1 hr but for the last year started to get heart problems and back problems and so exercise a lot less now.

[@workboots9156]

@@MoreChannelNoise did you go to the chiropractor?

[@janealan2142]

After a second viewing of this excellent podcast and hearing Dr Attia say that exercise is the most important element of health on longevity I can't help but think that we should promote dance for a whole variety of reasons from preschool to retirement home. Dance teaches coordination, burns calories, increases cardio vascular output, promotes cooperation, provides socialization and is fun. It has spin off benefits for music and musicians and costume designers. It's adaptive to all ages and abilities from recreational to competetive. Dance covers it all.

[@faithli2131]

I’m all for it! And it’s good for the emotions.

[@elviajove8289]

THAT would be so marvelous! ❤

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Shake yer bootie, alleluia!

[@anotherguy5038]

Matthew 7:21

[@lynnwilliams5432]

They do this at our local schools at least in JH.

[@wngimageanddesign9546]

At 50, I was convinced to become a vegan to preserve my perfect health and excellent fitness, following a successful solo bike tour of the US Pacific coast. My physique was better than I was at 18, and I was in great shape as a very active teen. 7 years of vegan dieting destroyed my life, my body, and my health. First signs were arthritis, Lupus. Then skin disorders, vision problems, muscle mass loss, joint pains, and nervous twitches. Hashimoto's Disease followed. Night sweating. constipation. tinnitus. I double-downed on my vegan diet, fully convinced I was doing the best for myself. I developed insulin resistance/per-diabetes, triple-vision. I was literally legally blind. I couldn't ride a bike, barely able to drive a car safely. I had Cushings Syndrome. gastro-intestinal disorders, rectal bleeding. I had insomnia, and would pass out after I ate. And I at 4-6x a day, feeling a need to snack as I got hungry after main meals. My hair was falling out. I had periodontal disease with bleeding gums and I lost a molar! I was 57, looked 67, and felt like 77. My skin hung off my limbs. My rear end is totally gone, all the muscle. It hurts to sit for a long time. I was prepared to kill myself just to end the suffering and deterioration. Then I contracted Omicron and suffered it for a week. I recovered quickly and it changed my mental state. I was fed up with my condition. Then I discovered your daughter's TedX video on her journey and struggle and her Lion Diet. I jumped head on into carnivore diet. I began eating beef after a 10 year absence. Red meat, eggs, cheeses. Cut sugars, reduced starches/carbs, limited most produce and fruit. No potatoes, no coffee, no vegetable oils. The transformation in 3 months was remarkable! During my vegan diet, I gained 6 inches to my waist of visceral fat. 37+" and dropped to 31" waistline. All of my visceral fat is gone. My hair grew back thick, my vision improved, my arthritis disappeared, and my gums stopped bleeding. I slept better, my mental state improved dramatically. I'm still on my road to recovery. But without Mikhaila Peterson's efforts, none of this would have happened. And for that, I'm so grateful to your family. Keep up with your important and needed good work.

[@SET12DSP]

Read the book by Dr Thomas Levy "Curing the Incurable " it woke me up!

[@jengenx7729]

Amazing! The power of food, thank goodness you discovered this way of eating, it saved your life!

[@noahsheehan7824]

This is an amazing interview. After hearing about the carnivore diet through Jordan, I decided to try it myself. The results were just outstanding. I was 30, and weighed 360lbs at the time of starting the diet. Within a year, I lost 135lbs and dropped from a waits size 44 to 36. I had lots of different health issues including gastric reflux disease, insomnia, depression, lathargy, daily headaches, gum disease, and overall unhealthiness. Since Ive been on the carnivore diet for 2 years now, ALL of my health issues/symptoms have disappeared. I have never felt better in my life, I have what seems like unlimited energy, and my cognitive ability has improved dramatically. I would love to see more studies done on the carnivore diet. I can absolutely say it worked for me.

[@marly1869]

Wow that’s really great.. I have asked many times on different platforms if someone could mention how their labs/blood work looks after eating a carnivore diet for at least 6 months, and even better over 1 year. Hope you answer, thank you!

[@marly1869]

@@andyc7747 thank you for getting back 👍🏼 humans are foragers/hunter-gatherers, that includes some plants too

[@marly1869]

@@andyc7747 yes I totally agree with you on avoiding all processed and refined foods, or Frankin foods. Sugar & oils-oils are processed too. Including more plants is definitely great for increasing fiber. I have heard their story-the Petersons. And I could see why she recommends it, I am happy to see that she found something that works for her 🥰 she really went through hell very young..🥺 With that said, I am a very big believer that we are individuals, and what works for one person may not work for another. Hence the reason I do a lot of research on health. I look at the research and how it’s interpreted as well, who’s funding it. I’m waiting to see the long term effects of the carnivore way of eating. I am open minded and like to look at all views. Thank you for the pleasant interaction.😊

[@AP-bo1if]

right, when you eliminate junk food, and go on a elimination diet, you will lose weight. it's not rocket science duh

[@AP-bo1if]

@@marly1869 meat is processed as well. when you cook meat, it's processed.

[@coorgvalley8983]

Staying useful with a purpose is key to maintain cognitive health 🔑

[@iangrant3442]

I have it altogether. Goals and simple life may correlate well. People complicate their lives, and it adds stress. Bad habits and stress drag people down too. If people develop discipline, it may solve a lot of their problems.

[@type1design]

As an adult diagnosed Type 1 diabetic this is arguably the most interesting episode I've ever listened to.

[@erastvandoren]

Cyrus Khambatta, “Mastering Diabetes” would be much more useful for you.

[@brucehutch5419]

You have type 1 diabetes.. you must have had some infection that wiped out your pancreas function totally.

[@nancykowalczyk2070]

Dr.Attica has many great podcasts, along with others.

[@davidr1431]

@@erastvandoren It might be worth listening to as a comparison, but requires as much skepticism as anyone trying to sell you a product or something that’s that’s underpinned by an ideology such as veganism rather than simply science.

[@erastvandoren]

@@davidr1431 Cyrus doesn't sell anything, but simply the power of plants. It's a book btw.

[@mihaeladog7187]

When I had a dog I would go into the woods and exercise him ( he was a GSD high drive and high maintenance). Now I don’t have the dog and I am not exercising for my own health. Interesting how my dog’s health was so important to me that I forgot I also exist. His training, exercise and diet was the pinnacle of my life.

[@dianewimett185]

So many dogs in shelters waiting to love ypu

[@jpguthrie6669]

I live in Japan, and was here during the pandemic. Many people aren't aware that Japan suffered no excess deaths during the pandemic, surprisingly, the number of deaths actually fell in 2020, compared to previous years. Doctors had predicted that at least 250,000 elderly Japanese would die from COVID, but this never happened. The main reason is that Japanese people are fundamentally healthy, that obesity and diabetes are rare in Japan. Many people will attribute this to the Japanese diet, but living in Japan, I can tell you that Japanese are not careful about what they eat. Japanese eat more salt than any nationality, they eat lots of junk food and and sugar, eat fish which contains high levels of mercury, and lots of Japanese smoke and drink alcohol. Yet Japan has the longest-living population in the world. The secret is physical activity, mainly walking and stairs. Your typical work commute to Japan involves a walk to the nearest train or subway station, many parts of Japan, including Tokyo itself, are not "accessible," that is, have elevators or escalators, so you need to climb stairs. If you are in the countryside, getting to a train platform may require 4 flights of stairs. Most housewives do their commuting to stores, schools, and such on foot or by bicycle. Japanese pantries and refrigerators are not large, so a trip to the grocery store is something done at least every other day. My daily commute consisted of leaving my 3rd floor apartment, descending 3 flights of stairs, a 2 km walk to the train station, and climb a long flight of stairs to the train platform. Then it was a 30 minute, standing-room-only ride to Tokyo station, climb down another flight of stairs, a 15 minute walk to my 4th floor office, which had no elevator. I didn't need to go to a gym to stay fit.

[@Simone-tz9lo]

Thanks for the interesting insight into your life in Japan.

[@yamishogun6501]

Obesity is rare at 4% and extreme obesity is extremely rare. However, 9% have type II diabetes - about the same as Americans. I lived in Japan a long time and noticed far fewer drink soda (a tenth of what Americans drink) and large meals are rare. Japanese might eat two slices of pizza, which they eat less often, whereas a typical American would eat 3 to 5 slices.

[@jpguthrie6669]

@@yamishogun6501You forget to factor in age. Japan has the world's oldest population on average, and as you get old, your organs also get old, increasing the likelihood of diabetes and heart disease. Diabetes is less common in younger Japanese than in younger Americans.

[@adrian__baxter]

One of the most crucial discussions the world needs at the moment. Hope this gets the views it deserves.

[@Justin-vq9co]

Absolutely 100% correct.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Canada needs awards for our good men

[@otherone1234]

@@FranklinFleming-lm1yu lol the only good men you ever produced was JP

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

@@otherone1234 Survivor man?

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

@@Rocksteady246 ???

[@jeffreydaniels7519]

I’m a 62 year old man, I have loved this lovely, extremely informative vlog with this gentleman. I have decided several years back never to retire but instead do menial tasks most men my age would rarely still do and strike a balance that keeps me energetic and young in spirit. My routine is waking up at 4:00 a.m. green juice, red juice, supplements. Dry brushing for the lymphatic health. Prayers of gratitude, shower, shave then walking 1.5 miles to the gym where I put in a vigorous workout rotation between HIT or high-intensity trading and weight lifting. Then I walk to work across the street where I prep food, cook, do dishes, mop and sweep everyday. My employer schedules me for 6 hour days but gives me the option to do more if I want, and often do. After years of this I have never called in sick, never showed up or called in late and almost consider my two consecutive days off enough of a vacation for me. I eat what I want but find that this lifestyle creates a greater momentum towards healthier foods. I can drink or smoke cigars if I want to but get greater enjoyment doing much less, like once or twice a month. I have always woke up early and made my bed ever since I was young. My son who is now 28 is also an inspiration to me by following my path to greater health by passing me up in almost every way. God Bless you Jordan Peterson for being the man you are. And the strength and fortitude to challenge the ensuing madness!

[@GlenLawlor]

Very interesting indeed. You demonstrate 1the value of work and 2 exercise.

[@KovalMichael]

Great inspiration!

[@carol_english]

Why don’t you get scurvy on an all meat diet?

[@Dragonologist]

Thanks for giving back to the community in your old age. The dream to retire and sedate yourself with booze in a beach is a lie.

[@bobzacamano658]

Have you read 12 rules for life? Seems you’re living it now.

[@MsBethharris]

My Husband had Prostate cancer… he had radical surgery and radiation. At the 5 year mark we thought he was home free until he started bleeding from the bowel. Upon investigation it was discovered that he had advanced Stage 4 (inoperative) bowel/colon cancer. Two months later, I was diagnosed with colon cancer-which was found through early screening (long story-I’ll spare you the details) I was not diabetic, nor obese, and relatively fit (for a 62 year old female). I had a bowel resection and some lymph nodes removed. No chemo or radiation was necessary. 3 years on I’m cancer-free. My husband died in February of 2021 after multiple debilitating aggressive treatments. I have been on a Carnivore diet for 3 months now, and feel 40 again!

[@jakskeys]

Thank you Jordan. For every single lecture, podcast and video. You’ve helped me more than you’ll ever know

[@drchrisgrayson2042]

Hello 👋🏻 Beautiful Lady 🌹, How are you and the weather condition like?

[@tonkajahari3010]

This is good information. I’m a trainer/nutritionist and I use a habit-based approach with my clients, as well. It usually starts with morning cardio. Doesn’t matter how long. Literally 2min is fine. Just DO that and build the habit. Having done that every morning, you set yourself up psychologically to be more likely to modify your other behaviors throughout the day. “I worked out today” is already programmed into your mind as a pre-script for your other decisions. That’s a huge modifier on your day. “What’s for lunch? I worked out today, so I should go for a chicken salad instead of a sandwich. Maybe I’ll eat it outside and get a little walk while I’m on break.” Little daily victories build massive results over time.

[@PantheraOnca60]

Right there with you. I'm 62 years old and one of the best habits I ever cultivated as a teenager, coming out of high school sports, was exercise. I currently hit the gym first thing in the morning six days a week, and the thought hanging in the back of my mind that I worked out this morning colors the rest of the day.

[@TheEnergizer94]

Excellently said my friend

[@ceeez3072]

As a psychotherapist, THIS🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@tonkajahari3010]

@@Rocksteady246 Sounds like a problem for you. Is there anything I can do to help you figure that out?

[@RPGetz]

​@@Rocksteady246I can only attest to the fact that Jordan Peterson's influence on me in the last 12 years has been a tremendous force for good in my life and I can safely say, I'm not the only one. God bless you!

[@damienrutledge6129]

Yes! More of this! Thank you Jordan, you are a force for good in this world.

[@tamising8999]

thank you for writing that I'm just so grateful that he's so into asking the questions that he asked for us behavioral wise and health-wise to really ask those questions that a lot of the people that have these podcast don't ask

[@ktwashere5637]

I just said the exact same thing.

[@catherinebell122]

Conversation worth sharing with friends and family with love.

[@Greg400]

Seems like Jordan has cognitive decline

[@damienrutledge6129]

@@Greg400 Seems like you are some sort of Anon troll, do your comments you make on his videos validate the emptiness inside of you? Why do you hate someone trying to do so much good?

[@Zoksta69]

I love this. Two titans in their own fields coming together, having an intellectual conversation, enriching the viewers and positively impacting the most important aspect of our lives.. HEALTH. Thank you guys!!

[@TheUndoing2024]

😆🤮🤡

[@Lynnette4]

@Zoksta69 Absolutely agree with your comment! Great conversation between these two guys!

[@agnieszkawojcik1034]

Do we really need a scientific conversation for this. My grandparents were farmers, they exercised all their life not hearing about exercise

[@JonnyVmagic]

This might be the best podcast I’ve listened to this year. Bravo Jordan and Peter 👏🏽

[@rebeccazamarron4594]

I’m a registered nurse and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, this is one of the best conversations I’ve ever heard explaining DM2, diet and exercise. Wow, just an amazing podcast

[@01happykat]

Same here! :) It's phenomenal, and I'm not even finished listening yet. It's very impressive!

[@TheUndoing2024]

Registered nurse lmao. Is that supposed to establish credibility?…..😂😂

[@01happykat]

@@TheUndoing2024 Do you have more credible credentials? The lack of substance to your response suggests you do not. For reference, I have spent an inordinate amount of time researching T2DM medical literature over the years, including during my MSN program, and found this video to be exceptionally helpful as it increased my overall understanding of this disease. Everything I learn about every disease process improves the quality of care I deliver to my patients -- and most of my patients have a lengthy list of comorbidities, with T2DM being one of the most common. If that's not credibility, I'm not sure what is.

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

The bit near the beginning about just going for a 10 minute walk every day vs trying to hit the gym for over an hour 3 or more times a week was gold.

[@paulwilliams5121]

Anybody who thinks walking alone will give you all the anti-ageing benefits really has no idea about exercise, and that includes Jordan. For all those out there who think they are not capable of anything except walking, I would urge you to get some resistance bands, they are cheap, versatile and a great way to prepare your body for light weight training - whatever age you are

[@kimberlyf4888]

@@paulwilliams5121 I think walking is a great way to start, plus there is the benefit - if done outdoors - of sun and nature.

[@Duck72432]

⁠@@paulwilliams5121they never said it was enough just that it’s a good place to start and adds up . They was suggesting it as a way to actually start changing your behaviour

[@cocosilkworm]

Sometimes it seems like many of us are just lost. Over-analytical, focused on things that don't really matter that much in the grand scheme of life. And forgetting to savour the small gifts that we busily pass by each day: the fragrance of the flowers on the corner before you reach the train station on the way to work; the warmth of the winter sun kissing your skin in the morning; the birds drinking nectar from a blossom that you don't know the name of (and it doesn't matter really, it only matters that you notice it); the sunset that is a work of art sometimes days in a row; grabbing someone's hand and twirling in the light summer rain just because; helping a stranger when no one else noticed their struggles; stopping to listen to small children playing and giggling and actually acknowledging the true miracle of life from whence we all came; and savouring a bite of food that someone went to the trouble of making with their own hands sometimes over a number of hours and just enjoying the flavours, absorbing the love that came with the preparation and giving of that food, and the sharing of that food with another whether in peaceful silence or animated conversation. Lest we forget...

[@juliejaropillo7079]

As someone who could only do at least 1-2 hrs a week of exercise because of work and sometimes not feel motivated due to stress this is really is good motivational lesson to listen. Now I want to push myself to that 3 hrs a week.

[@whiteswordwarrior9995]

30 a day and skip mondays 😊

[@rhysphil9332]

You can do it!

[@Ihatehuman666]

even 1-2 hrs is fine. 2 hrs is better than 1, 1 is better than 20min and 20min is much better than 0. If one can only afford 1hr a week that’s great, they are healthier than without training at all. Just enjoy your training without numbers. Sometimes 1hr of good challenge worth 3hrs of so-so exercise :) I do training once a week, around 60-90 min, and have a really good physical condition

[@jimatsydney]

What I find helpful is to set a goal, preferably with someone else. For example sign up for a 5 km fun run with a friend. Once you have done that, plan to do a 10 km etc. Make it fun with a friend.

[@mayanboricua]

I've never timed my exercise sessions. I make a list of exercises, and I get to leave when I complete the list. 2 or 3 times a week. It might take me 30 min; it might take me an hour. Time is irrelevant.

[@jimkennedy4509]

Wow, the closing is powerful. I have stage 4 renal cancer and so my shelf life is very limited (maybe 1 year) so Dr Attia's exercise bought tears to my eyes.

[@salmivec]

I wish for you every happiness and joy however much time you are granted

[@marvinpalmer4803]

All the best brother

[@lostandfound5145]

God bless you on your journey!

[@southernc4919]

Try the keto diet. Maybe it fights cancer

[@zoejoy6065]

Sorry for what you are experiencing. Have you looked at natural cures or protocols , there are some videos of dr. Berg on KZbin.

[@elenaklimenko422]

"If the body hurts, heal the soul; if the soul hurts, heal the body"

[@HowDidIGet3700Subs]

And if both hurt ur screwed

[@lana1065]

That is so true! Where's the quote from?

[@mattturner5429]

​@@lana1065 Stalin.

[@kenadams5504]

@@HowDidIGet3700Subs To hurt is to feel something ,at least .You're only screwed when you don't feel at all.

[@humanoid8344]

don't understand how this quote is relevant

[@johnchrysostom3754]

I can’t believe this type of material is free. This might be the most important conversation for many people to hear on KZbin.

[@sergiyzuev9712]

This interview literally changed my life. I watched it 9 months ago when it just came out, and it gave me the motivation to finally start working out again. Since then, I haven’t skipped a single training session. We all know that working out is important for your health, but it’s only after dr. Attia’s words I realized JUST HOW IMPORTANT it is. I haven’t struggled with motivation to train ever since. It’s absolutely clear to me now just how stupid it is to not work out. Thank you so much for sharing this!

[@TritonTv69420]

One of these days I'm going to meet Dr Peterson. Mark my words. One of the most important intellectuals in the western world right now. Thanks for doing these talks.

[@matthewvasquez9278]

You should try to go to his show, I've had a chance to meet him, but kinda felt I wasn't ready myself, I just went just to see him, until that day comes, I'll work on myself

[@darinweets3281]

I'm going to "Those that wrestle with God" on Tuesday this week. Super excited!

[@Solidfreeman01]

Hey! Dr. Attia is one of the best on the field of Nutrition and exercise and longevity! Great to have him here!

[@holdensagan]

Couldn't agree more. He tells you EXACTLY what you need to hear even if you don't want to hear it. He's also not afraid to say if he doesn't have an answer. More doctors need to have that humility.

[@erastvandoren]

LOL, he is a charlatan

[@qorimayu]

@@erastvandorencan you explain why you think that? I’m genuinely curious

[@holdensagan]

@@erastvandoren Don't you have anything better to do than troll? Surely you must know somebody smarter than you that can give you some suggestions.

[@rebeccamurray8047]

Oh l need to share this how do l do it...

[@DD19701]

I’m 54 years old. I’ve been watching Dr. Attia off and on for several years. If you continuously over time watch his podcasts over time it motivates me to move/exercise. I’ve noticed when I exercise each day I try to compete with myself to do more or better then the day before.

[@Teenibash1969]

I was recently in hospital with a myasthenia crisis and pneumonia. I am not diabetic. In my ward of 6 patients, 3 were diabetic. In the morning they woke groggy. Breakfast at 0800 gave them orange juice, cereal and milk, a glass of milk, cup of tea with 3 spoons of sugar, an apple, banana and orange. A massive amount of sugar. By 0830 all 3 patients were passed out sleeping. One patient woke with a BM of 7. After breakfast it was 21 and she was given meds. There is something wrong with our diabetes care. I was shocked.

[@richardscathouse]

Exactly

[@timjohnson2731]

Two of my favorite people in one podcast. I don't know how many thousands of hours I have spent listening to these two separately. Hopefully, together, it doesn't disappoint.

[@darrenshaw2154]

I agree

[@wendellbabin6457]

Would LOVE Jordan to have Thomas Sowell on before it is too late. I think he is in his 90s now.

[@timjohnson2731]

@@wendellbabin6457 he is also in my top 5 favorite intellectual people.

[@shulatutoring7643]

I am a stay at home mother of 4 little kids, and I don’t have the time to go to the gym. So the solution for me was to get yoga and Pilates DVDs and play them at home. The information in this video actually gives me the motivation to continue with my home exercise routine. Exercising outside in the fresh air is of course much better, but we all do the best we can. Thank you, Dr. Peterson 😊

[@swyllie30]

Even an open rhe window to let the light in can go a long way.

[@dortmundgrabenstein9193]

You seem to be a lovely person. Wish you all the best...

[@dortmundgrabenstein9193]

@@swyllie30 Yes Stuart, indeed.

[@user-do4eq8sr5c]

Ever think with four little ones you get more than enoughexcercize than neccessary

[@shulatutoring7643]

@@dortmundgrabenstein9193 thanks!

[@OXBLOOD999]

I've been listening to Jordan for a few years now and him saying "what about a 15 mins walk before school " is a brilliant idea ,we try to get our sons to walk 15 mins to school 5 days a week but a lot of children are dropped off and picked up .

[@richardscathouse]

I'm sure that will be addressed during their sexual transition surgery 😂

[@richardscathouse]

Or with the massive doses of stimulaints used to cure their (alleged) ADHD. From age 11 to 16 I was dosed with 100mg Ritalin 2x a day. I never had a chance of gaining weight! 😅

[@richardscathouse]

Save your kids. Keep them the hell out of government schools! 😱😱😱

[@OXBLOOD999]

@@richardscathouse we have no choice as we can't afford private education

[@richardscathouse]

@@OXBLOOD999 probably couldn't afford kids, either. Sadly

[@itayshorek6872]

dr peter attia is a real jam

[@vSwampFox]

I think I understand what Dr. Attia is saying. The day before I die, whenever that is, I want to be like Jack LaLanne. Capable of 1000 push-ups 1000 sit ups. Feeling great and strong. I don’t want the last years or decade of my life wasting away in a chair, staring at the TV.

[@kenadams5504]

I can do 28 push ups...4 times a day.

[@TCgirl]

War Hammer, Amen to that!! Sitting in a chair watching tv is not living and a sad way to go out! And sadly that describes too many people in their last years. 😢

[@issaclarke3449]

​@@karwask1 Also note Dr Peterson is a carnivore. However, most of us will agree standard American diet is really bad.

[@RS-xq6je]

​@@kenadams5504 beast

[@kenadams5504]

@@RS-xq6je I eat beef liver

[@rips1231]

Dr. Peterson you're truly a force for good in this world. And i have to thank you. Ive been watching your talks for several years now and you have definitely been a catalyst in the change of my behaviors. Ive quit vaping, dipping, and marijuana. Ive massively reduced my alcohol consumption. Ive gotten back into my childhood love for reading. Ive began working out regularly. There are tons of things youve guided me too with a little introspection. I genuinely appreciate your efforts for humanity thank you.

[@HoldenMcG]

Good for you! The best investment you can make is an investment in yourself!

[@Joraelfa]

What is dipping?

[@rips1231]

@Cleo Piep it's chewing tobacco. You pack the tobacco in between your gums and your lip. And the nicotine affects you almost instantly. It's very addictive and very hard to quit AND destroys your gums and teeth. Would not recommend.

[@Joraelfa]

@@rips1231 aaaah sounds nasty, thanks for explaining. Glad you're doing better and I'm sure your mouth is grateful too! I can only imagine the bad breath it could cause too!

[@otherone1234]

@@rips1231 I haven't smoked a cigarette in 30 years, but still miss those suckers lol.

[@Jockesved]

No words.. these two, just amazing💎💎💎🎩⬆️🙏

[@karenkaren3189]

I worked as an Oncology nurse for decades and exercise was my super power. It frustrates and saddens me that so many nurses are so obese.

[@xo7454]

Im an MD. It's embarrassing to see my colleagues being overweight and pigging out on junk food and alcohol.

[@ChristopherRyans]

Jordan peterson thank you so much for your continuing efforts . the world is watching and we will participate In the revification of our society by speaking truth.

[@ChristopherRyans]

​@@StrongBodyandMind33Individual responsibility was the spirit of the comment. perhaps i should of made that more clear 😅

[@mikefibre5337]

Listening between the lines tells me this is why bigpharma would like to remove meat from the shelves.❤🇿🇦regards from southafrica

[@JTguitarlessons]

​@@StrongBodyandMind33 Don't start with your vegan garbage. We need protein to survive, and meat is the most accessible and most concentrated form of natural protein. Our teeth are biologically designed to tear and chew meat. If you don't want to eat meat, you're the one going against biology.

[@jimdavis1566]

​@@StrongBodyandMind33 we don't need vegetables either

[@ChristopherRyans]

@@StrongBodyandMind33 water is my food

[@jackc981]

Dr Jordan Peterson has graciously teaching us more about life than universities and colleges are combined…what a man? You are greatly appreciated & love.

[@fuzbeatboxern5714]

I think he is learning as much as we are.

[@jlllx]

just money making machines to make good zealots

[@romanvarga]

It is unbelievable how much study we need to make to realize that not being obese and exercising makes us to live longer...

[@anneiconex1473]

I know. Like DUH. BAHAHA 😆 @romanvarga

[@erinsymone1645]

I don't think people need to study to realize this stuff; I think we moreso need help on how to avoid falling into it, because modern life is such a trap for these things that you'll be deep in it before you're out of childhood.

[@jeannemeadow7113]

At 62 I am definitely in the zero self care cause who wants to keep living so unhappily. Thank you for this enlightenment!

[@Pamela-wg4lx]

Me too.. did it work?

[@davefinlay127]

I run a program here in Michigan called CAPABLE. It is a rehab program designed for cancer survivors to eat healthier, exercise and have fun. This video is so incredibly well done that it will be shared with all of our participants and referring physicians. I do my best to communicate these exact points but you two have truly nailed it. Bravo!

[@sonidojamon]

After helping my dad with all of this after his Pancreatic Cancer survival and BATTLING traditional healthcare (Spain) system's post-cancer recommendations with him (thankfully, I succeded) I can't thank you enough for what you're doing. I'm confident your program is helping A LOT. The only thing I missed is that Mr. Attia didn't finish his sentence on the recommended frequency of cancer scans/tests for proper prevention. What are your thoughs on this? In the case of someone who has never been diagnosed with cancer before, specially. Thank you!

[@diannenoyes8865]

Ditto! Well stated.

[@tylerbeck3806]

If you are ever interested in having a like minded Chiropractor involved I live in Michigan and have an Ohio license currently. I would love to work in research backed wellness and see what you guys are doing.

[@tarantulady8565]

I’m in Michigan and would love to know if anyone knows of a MD who knows about the keto/carnivore diet. Seems they are ALL brainwashed into accepting/pushing the food pyramid & pharma.🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m in SE Michigan, but would travel some distance to see a doctor who’s knowledgeable in regards to using nutrition as medicine, instead of pharma.

[@tylerbeck3806]

@@tarantulady8565 look up Dr. Boz. Shes an MD and works with patients virtually so you wouldn't need to travel. If you trust a DC Dr. Berg has some really good content but not all of it is the most scientifically based, in my opinion. I am looking to start a wellness practice in Toledo that will work with people like you but it may take a year or two to get everything sorted legally. Remember you know your body better than any provider and nobody will take your care as seriously as you. You are capable of learning all of this on your own and doing very well! Best of luck.

[@adam7378]

Dear Dr. Peterson and Dr. Attia, For me, this has been one of the most meaningful, enlightening and trustworthy interviews since years of watching. I have searched, in vain, for years for precisely what you have put clearly in less than two hours. Thank you very much to both of you.

[@CanadianReacts]

These are nice things to say but neither one will see this comment

[@thespartanphysique]

@@CanadianReacts I agree, it is entertaining though, to see how gullible people are with their comments 😁😁!

[@CanadianReacts]

@@thespartanphysique Peterson and Attia are pretty busy & also pay someone to manage most of their content

[@lindam8497]

I’m so in agreement on this interview… wanted more! Scared into making serious moves on my health 😊

[@caitlinpreece9811]

Diet doesn't cause diabetes, if you learn the history of diabetes then you will see how it changed dramatically when we electrified out communities. Every cell in our body can be associated to a combustion engine and that driving force is electricity not all chemicals like we're taught. All these electric fields have disrupted our own bodies electric field hence why majority of people have a compromised immune system.

[@artifundio1]

To those who think healthy is hard, let me tell you the human body is magical! Once you start truly caring for it, it cooperates with you. For example, junk food will start to look disgusting to you more often than not, and water is going to feel more refreshing as days go by. You keep on keeping on, and your body will "tell you" what it needs! 😊

[@michelle_c2345]

I totally agree. When I began eating healthy now if I have a “cheat meal” and “cheat desert” I can eat very very little. Not used to the sugar or fat or grease anymore. And it basically disgusts me.

[@leonardwitucke1]

I work in an office and don't have many opportunies to for movement or exersise. Because f this I adjusted my daily routine to wake up much ealier than I expected to and get 90 mintes in before work 3-5 times a week. I have been doing this for the last 7 months and everything in my life has improved. I have more energy, I drink less booze. I care about what I eat, and make sure its organic and BPA free packaging. I cut out all juices and sugary drinks. I have never felt so good.

[@EatBeefBeHealthy]

So agree at @26:18 mark about "when we age." I'm 67 now, but a year ago, I started falling when stepping like you said "off a curb." My knee would buckle and down I would go. I started walking on my treadmill, up to a 15% grade and walking backwards up that same grade and squats. I'm so glad to say that problem is history.

[@nabeelahbaxter8204]

Thankyou for this information. At 63 my knees are giving me a lot of trouble. I intend to try your idea.

[@JeffMTX]

That’s awesome!

[@ray_notes8170]

I've been through this cycle of fitness and sedentary atrophy. I'm currently putting my fitness back together after COVID life put a serious dent in it. All i can say is, having a donut feels pretty good for a few minutes, but being fit feels good all day long, every day. It's worth your time and effort to get moving.

[@paulwilliams5121]

Donuts, pizza, pies and fries are not fit for human consumption and you have to get out of that mindset that they are actually edible if you are serious

[@kjcross1087]

I try to remind myself of that old saying "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" and say "as being fit feels" instead 😁 Those chips though...it's tough. Good luck on your journey to back on track!

[@sandypiller]

I'm a 63 year old woman that has been cleaning for 4.5 decades and has bad arthritis in my right hip. Any advice on what kind of cardio l can do that will not put added strain on it?

[@ray_notes8170]

@@sandypiller although I'm not an expert, I'm going to guess swimming is the lowest impact, highest intensity exercise you can do. It requires a lot of energy without all the impact and gravity of almost anything else.

[@ray_notes8170]

@@paulwilliams5121 I used to call all those things "fope". It stood for "food other people eat" while rhyming with "nope".

[@samcan1000]

And they do this, without being politically correct or worrying about your feelings. They speak, factual, honest, and unbiased.

[@robwes9227]

Whomever edited this podcast is an actual wizard. Well done.

[@Z10C]

I love the way Peter Attia communicates! So clearly outlines and explains these topics so well!

[@scotchbarrel4429]

💯

[@Robert.Marshall]

JP, it's great to see you and your mindset doing all these interviews. This and your interview with Brian Roemmele are great. Your analytical psychology, and philosophical background and ways of communicating+teaching are an excellent perspective to have in media interviews like this. Thanks for all you've done and continue to do.

[@ChristopherRyans]

Amen!

[@francinemahabir2873]

😊

[@flparkermdpc]

Amen, Man.

[@brucemah609]

@@Rocksteady246 and your point?

[@AgentSmith911]

Very important information. Sugar is today's tobacco. And the industry is making sure we get too much of it. Getting rid of sugar, carbohydrates and getting a gym membership is the best thing I've done for my body.

[@karenkaren3189]

I’m a retired nurse and volunteer at a hospital A couple of the cardiologists advise their patients to reduce their carbohydrates

[@alxdava2004]

The best advice ever

[@fahada1921]

Peter is a guy that I can say changed my life. Forever grateful to him and his work.

[@kathyowen3847]

Did it bother you or anyone else that Dr Peterson began by pronouncing “Attia” in a way I have never heard before? I’m a paying subscriber to The Drive podcast. I literally cringed and said “ No!” out loud when I heard that. My two favorite podcasters/health/life peeps together at last and THAT happened. Or, am I wrong? Even though Peter doesn’t pronounce his name the way Jordan did, is that an acceptable pronunciation?

[@fahada1921]

@@kathyowen3847 No kidding. And especially as an arab I pronounce his surname the Arabic way which is “عطية" and that’s way more strong per se than how it’s properly pronounced in English you can try hearing it it’s interesting. So yeah I noticed Jordan’s pronunciation is almost a different name.

[@kathyowen3847]

@@fahada1921 Thank you so much for your reply. Now I need a little more help.😊 I see the Arabic script you wrote but I don’t know which is the proper Arabic pronunciation. Or which is closer to Arabic? Jordan’s or Peter’s. Because I also noticed a few years ago that Peter pronounced the surname Makary (Marty Makary, MD renowned John’s Hopkins surgeon and public health expert whose family immigrated from Egypt to England and the USA) with the emphasis on the first syllable which is different than the way “everyone else” in the public space pronounced it. I guess I need some Arabic lessons. When I listen to pronunciations of Attia on Google, it doesn’t really sort it out for me.

[@fahada1921]

@@kathyowen3847 No problem. Definitely the way Peter does it is closer to the Arabic pronunciation although we pronounce the A in Attia with the letter ع which requires a certain movement of the throat I don’t know how to describe 😅. With Makary I’m not entirely sure that rings an Arabic word into mind that’s similarly pronounced as it is clearly the case with Attia. Fun fact Attia means gift.

[@kathyowen3847]

@@fahada1921 Gift! That is a fun fact! Shukran!

[@dixiederivatives]

Dr. Sean Baker of the Carnivore Diet is a great resource for a healthy diet. He is great, super smart guy and a true patriot!

[@LTJBLTJB]

Damn, the way Dr Attia explains metabolic syndrome is unreal! I've been following Dr Robert Lustig for some time now and know most about it but Dr Attia does an even better job of breaking it down and simplifying it!

[@valdasdr8432]

Just buy an elastic band and do x minutes of workout for whatever muscle if you want to get started. I am quite buffed only using elastic bands after work at home. Later you will naturally start researching how to train a certain muscle and until you notice you know how to properly train all the muscles with an elastic band and you do that regularly. The untold truth is that working out is satisfying, fulfilling and rewarding.

[@Monkey-fv2km]

I can't speak to long term physical benefits of exercise, but I can definitely say, as someone with lifelong anxiety and depression issues, that 30 to 60 minutes of exercise every morning has had orders of magnitude more positive impact than any clinical intervention, whilst being cheap and having zero negative side effects.

[@elizabethwilk9615]

Thank you and yes it helps but not a cure

[@Monkey-fv2km]

@@elizabethwilk9615 I'm not convinced there is a "cure"

[@cbrown6660]

I'm not being dramatic at all, but this KZbin video may have just saved my life. Thank you, Dr. Peterson.

[@kirstenmartin2650]

Thank you so much for this conversation. I am 68 years old and have been working on many of these subjects you have talked on and you brought great information. As I listened to your closing you quoted "people perish without a vision". it comes from the Old Testament and in Hebrew reads "without knowledge the people perish". You and Dr. Attia brought KNOWLEDGE to the people. Now it is our responsibility to take action with the knowledge you have brought into our lives. It is important to understand that 'once you know you can't unknow what you now know" and each of us have a responsibility to take action and engage in supporting ourselves and each other to accomplish applying the knowledge you have just delivered. May our Heavenly Father continue to bring to the world what you are compelled to tell. Truth tellers are rare and more rare is the celebration of truth tellers/watchmen on the wall. I celebrate you and the influence you have. I celebrate you and the love you demonstrate to your fellow man/woman. Keep at it Sir and shalom to you and your family in the full sense of the meaning of that word.

[@LeTumes]

I remember Simon Sinek using a good argument. He said something along the lines of: You dont get clean teeth by brushing them for 2 hours straight. You get clean teeth from brushing them 2 minutes twice a day every day. You dont get in shape by going to the gym for 8 hours straight. You get in shape by working out 30-60 minutes a day every day. To me that means, that you cannot force, any radical change upon your body, but rather change the routines of which you conduct your life.

[@cbryanto]

In my seventies, I cannot waste energy, discipline and spirit in a gym. Combine this whole podcast into gardening. Exercise of all kinds, nutrition from organic freshness, and spirit enhancing found in your garden. It motivates me to do, to think, to observe, to learn and connect to community.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Yes!!

[@Tybren]

It's not a waste

[@annemccarron2281]

I'm 72. Gyms bore me. I hike up to 12 miles outside in the summer. Walk to grocery store & carry groceries home in backpack. In winter I climb 2 steps at a time in my house. Am working more with weights.

[@acanfield87]

As a lifelong cyclist I appreciate the way Dr. Attia provides a clear description of perceived exertion (PE) to help people understand Zone 2 training intensity.

[@GeorgeRon]

But none of this is new. In some ways, the idea of training to feel and the importance of zone 2 training originated with Lydiard. Dr. Attia simply rehashes whats been known, tried and used by coaches for decades.

[@tombryan1]

​@@GeorgeRon common sense dictates that no strain and no gain, you have to run yourself at 65% during cardio to keep your body healthy

[@GeorgeRon]

@@tombryan1 Agree. I just don't know if its "common sense", which is rare.

[@thomasswanson4965]

@@GeorgeRon 100% correct. But just look at obesity rates and established science around it. It’s not the science that lacking - it’s the messaging. If These guys can ‘reach’ tens of thousands of people with ‘their’ messaging, that’s a huge contribution to the world.

[@allydt711]

9 months ago I was having extreme joint pain in my shoulder and also was always so tired and depressed. I heard about the carnivore diet and how it could reduce pain I decided to give it a try. I can say with great confidence I no longer have the extreme pain and other health and mental issues have disappeared. I feel amazing and have energy like never before. Firm believer in eating meat for health.

[@elizabethgarces]

How did you do it? Did you just letf behind all the foods except meat? I would like to give it a try

[@tonytaf107]

I was a college hockey player and got to some training sessions with pro team at 16yo. Unfortunately from 17 to 19 I was a stoner/loser and gave up sport. At 20 I already decreased weed and alcohol and finally decided to top being a piece of sh!t and went for a 10 minutes jogg followed by 3 minutes of rope skipping at 5am every days. At 23 I completely gave up smoking, did my army school, moved to the UK to learn English, started train thaï boxing, wrestling and grappling. I'm now 37, full shape. I train thaï boxng on Monday, wrestling Tuesday, Thursday and jogg 4K on Saturday morning up long hill basically 25 minutes of up hill jogging. Going back to sport saved my life. Many of my friends from teens are either back in and out prison and/or on heavy drugs or depression. My life changed from the evening I decided that the day after Ild start jogg and rope skipp 15 minutes all together. I train now with guys age around 20 and I keep up with them easy. Sport is a medicine and therapy in the same time. No needs pills or psychoatrist

[@SpaseRistov]

Oh finally. My favourite psychologist with my favourite doctor ❤

[@vannahhall915]

A few years ago my attitude about exercise changed when my doctor told me he wasted me to walk for my "mental health." I tracked my mood and found life was better in days I walked for 15 minutes. Now I love and rely on my movement breaks.

[@hossromani]

This is the best Attia interview , even better than his own channel - thank you Dr. Peter Attia - you change lives!

[@carpediem9382]

This was such an educational video and devoid of political rhetoric, just health based, which is just so appreciated. Really learned a lot. Thank you Doctors!

[@kennyx8482]

some ppl say "why jordan is talking about topics he is not an expert in"...but i personally love it...cos he is smart enough to ask the relevant questions, and is very good at putting his thoughts into words to do this well

[@vincentsmith8328]

Professor Jordan B Peterson is 'the' man for these difficult times!

[@vincentsmith8328]

A common sense man for common times!

[@JamesAnderson-ez2df]

Atria+Peterson=great knowledge of mind and body.🤗

[@davidstair9657]

Another antidotal: been on Carnivore for 3 weeks, wife on Keto the same. We have both stopped snoring, I’ve lost 10 lbs, my wife 5 lbs, my wife stopped using insulin as her fasting was the same as if she had taken her Lantis… pain in my kidneys, back, knees, is GONE, my memory has suddenly become really sharp… holy smokes! The changes are astounding and really quick! I have this strange quietness that has come over my whole body… I notice it especially when I am going to bed. I used to twitch and feel sudden jolts that made we always feel on edge. After about 3 days in, I noticed it and I almost cried. I told my wife it felt as if I was a little kid or something long lost that I felt in my body! Also, chill emotions… no dips or hangry episodes. Total lack of hunger throughout the day… knowing that I can eat anytime my snacks of cheese and meat sticks. Oh, and I stopped farting! Oh! And reduced my bms from 5-6 a day to one! WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?! I feel so good!! Aaaaaaaaaaaa!!!😂

[@EhKnighty]

Just an overpowered podcast. 2 true gems (accidentally both born in Canada :)). Making difficult things understandable for us all so we can work at being great.

[@murphymomof9]

What an amazing man Dr. Attia is. The last part discussing Emotional Health had me a little teary. Just a fantastic interview. Thank you to both of you.

[@patrickwhite2941]

This is one of the most important conversations that nobody is talking about. These men are truly on the cutting edge of understanding how diets, drugs, and other lifestyle factors impact our life. But with great specificity and having the knowledge, foresight, and experience to back it up. If you want to learn how to truly take care of your health while staying away from the vultures of the American healthcare system, listen to these men. Understanding how we can ACTUALLY prevent and minimize our risks to developing cancers, dementia etc... THIS is truly important to all human beings on the planet.

[@johndenicola2191]

Thank you Dr. Peterson, thankful for everything you do and research and support . God Bless you and all of your loved ones.

[@toymachine821]

I'm 26 and I'd wanted to start exercising for the longest time but was worried I'd end up hurting myself, and after learning how to properly, found I probably would have. But after that, started exercising a little over a year ago and the change was extremely fast, their were points I lost 5 pounds a week "currently 200 from around 250. Wanting to keep my weight here and get veri stronk", I got mentally quicker, stopped having weird brain fog, got sick less frequently and for shorter periods of time, my memory wasn't as bad, I sleep better and wake up faster, move quicker for far longer with far less aches and pains, my mood about basically everything improved. It is absolutely worth it, absolutely. I would urge anyone to learn about working out and get on a routine and it will improve their life greatly.

[@banzy3]

I know and have known quite a few people in their 70's though to others well into their 90's who have not had cancer, diabetes or problems with heart disease, and in part it's luck and good genetics, but they also garden every day, grow all their own food and I think that combination of diet and exercise makes a huge difference. My neighbour who passed away a few years ago (I attended his 70th wedding anniversary) was a short stocky man, built like an ox and had been a farmer all his life. Very nice man, open minded, and kept a beautiful garden and vegetable patch. He'd weave beautiful baskets for harvesting his produce and was still climbing into trees to get the fruit, and chopping and loading up wood for the winters up until the age of 95. His children then put him in a home, and he tried to kill himself a couple of times because he couldn't stand it. He passed away at 98, and his wife at 97, in part as a consequence of a fall. They'd lived through wwII, experienced severe food shortages and lost friends and relatives in a local massacre where over 600 men women and children were rounded up, shot and burnt to death.

[@madeleinegrayson8372]

It's tragic that people just stick parents into homes. I don't understand it, an Di don't even much like my parents, honestly, but even I would take them in of need be.

[@castirondude]

56:00 I have been making this point to people around me. When I eat low-nutrient foods, say pasta, I can literally eat until I'm stuffed and can eat no more and still feel hungry. But when I eat a slice of brisket, OMG I don't feel hungry till the next day

[@lloydbickersteth7874]

I want to take this opportunity to say a massive thanks to Dr Peterson and Dr Attia for the amazing work and content you share. Without doubt has had a huge positive impact on myself.

[@shirleygriffin7672]

Dr. Mercola now in Florida has been talking about this for decades. Thanks for sharing. Health is your wealth and without you have nothing. Dr. Saladino living in Costa Rica correct too, and we need sunlight. Exercise is great Sunlight is healthy......from the Ozarks

[@southernc4919]

Jordan’s articulate intellectualism is impressive. I could listen to him for hours

[@CLooLoo]

I really found this interesting and informative. With respect to prevention, one of the frustrations we face in Australia is that Doctors don’t like to send patients for regular screenings and if you request certain tests the first question they ask is “why? What are your symptoms?” If you don’t produce symptoms they won’t send you for the test or you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money. I think it’s because of the government billing system likely not subsidising tests without specific symptoms. That’s very short sighted as a lot of serious diseases don’t have symptoms until it’s too late! I wish governments would encourage a higher focus on prevention. The other issue is that Drs don’t always explain long term implications of things. For example I got diagnosed with a health condition about 15 years ago and wasn’t told it makes people predisposed to diabetes and other health risks. I found out years later. We really have to keep informed about all aspects of health through sources other than just our own family doctors.

[@shirleypugh8675]

Amen!

[@westfield90]

My father is 94 and for the past 20 years has walked 3-5 miles every single day. People think he is in his 70’s. No gyms or fancy equipment but just walking.

[@michaelmonier4665]

Two of my favorite people. Much love and respect for both of you!

[@Alan-in-Bama]

Dr. Peterson, myself and millions of others cannot thank you enough ! You bring common sense to social issues (that is Sorely missing) and excellent advice on a variety of health topics. You are a beacon in a sea of craziness !!

[@garrypags6960]

Thank you to both of you, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia for this very important topic which is free.God bless.❤

[@808ionman]

Peter Addy-ah is one of the most important voices on health of our time.

[@87jennlynch]

I am forever grateful for both Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Attia. Thank you so so much for this conversation. ❤🙏❤️

[@jimrutherford2773]

Can you believe they've tried to take his psych license away?

[@kazzana9013]

One of the last points on how much I value life is one I have been tackling recently. I lost my husband in February and with him I lost the lust for life. I am not suicidal, but I also find I no longer care about living. Last month I was diagnosed with numerous large blood clots in my lungs and close to my heart. My reaction was muted, I didn't feel any concern, which brought up the question of, did I give a hoot whether I live or die? would I fight for my life? The conclusion was, it is way too soon after losing my husband to answer that question. What it has brought home, is how relationships, especially one's mate are essential to life.

[@lynncrf]

I am so sorry for your loss. If you like to read I would highly recommend the book "A Grief Observed" by CS Lewis. It comforted me in my dark days. ❤

[@pmiller9997]

So sorry for ur loss I couldn’t stand losin my bff don’t forget to hold on to the ones we do have here… pray

[@kazzana9013]

@@pmiller9997 Thank you.

[@shirleypugh8675]

My sweetest thoughts straight to your heart that is missing the love. ❤️❤️❤️

[@the1stime]

I’m sorry for your loss and the despair you’re experiencing. The fact that you’re watching videos like this one says a lot about what’s deep inside of you. The sun will come out again for you in time. Keep searching and learning and growing. Two years ago I lost my best friend of 38 years and went through an existential crisis. It was a long road but I learned so much in the process. I’m sending you lots love and strength❤

[@Dev_Havenwyck_Media]

Truly informative. Well worth listing to the entire episode.

[@burnigene1279]

Huge respect for both these men. Both have massively helped me to start to put my life back together.