OBLITERATING LEGACY! Legacy Mono Black Control with Phyrexian Obliterator (MTG Dark Ritual Deck)

[@Begmann0306]

The fact that you say you are a teacher explanes alot about how easy it is to understand what you are talking about when playing something completely new to most people watching(like myself!). Love the content.

[@studentanselmus9461]

You may not like it, but this is how peak Mono B looks like.

[@Arthur-ux9ez]

There's no gray merchant of asphodel tho

[@dustinfurness2155]

@@Arthur-ux9ez if there was that in place of opposition agent I think this whole deck would be legal in modern. However, I wonder if it would be better to play something else that stops the opponent from searching their deck for stuff like maybe ashiok game ender if this entire deck list was ported to modern, though.

[@kentan9928]

This looks so much like my deck, but without the planes walker, I run sinkhole and extirpate, maralen and opposition agent, and as well 2 aethervial to uptide the maralen, and scare the shit out of opponent when I add the 4th charge to aether... Hinting the obliterator

[@Volta650]

@@dustinfurness2155 no dark rit

[@dustinfurness2155]

@@Volta650 Yea I overlooked that card completely. I know there are a bunch of red ritual spells legal in modern (though pyretic ritual and desperate ritual are actually worse) so I completely overlooked that dark ritual wasn’t in modern. It’s not banned or anything. It’s just hasn’t been reprinted in a standard legal set for awhile. A long while apparently. Maybe they can fix that with modern masters 3 😏 and while they’re at it, reprint hymn to Touroch. Then this deck would be pretty close to being modern legal. I wouldn’t say those cards are too much more broken than what’s already in modern, so why not? Unless I’m still missing something it’s basically modern legal right now besides dark ritual, hymn to Tourach, and opposition agent. Perhaps there are some slightly worse cards that do the same thing for a deck like this to be modern legal? I played against 8 rack recently so maybe start with that but then find a happy medium between that and this🤷‍♂️

[@daneofdanger]

"Mono Black Obliterator" My eyes widen I scan the thumbnail Yes, it is _the_ Obliterator So pumped for this. I played type 2 Sui w/Negator and Hatred, so this is my jam

[@Alicarus]

Or, alternatively, Swamp, Dark Ritual, Priest of Gix, Priest of Gix, Sarcomancy, Sarcomancy, Carnophage. Go.

[@daneofdanger]

@@Alicarus YES!

[@JohnDoe-do3fm]

I have alot of respect for people in your profession. I know when I was in school that I was a horrible student (I have a thing against structured environments) but my teachers still tried their best.

[@naphackDT]

Dunno whenever I see an obliterator I wanna see it get hit by an effect that causes it to damage itself. Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar is probably the only card of that type that sees some amount of play.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I have been on the wrong side of similar effects, and let me tell you, it is ROUGH.

[@joegaffney8006]

You can just play phyrexian negator to get that feeling

[@kentan9928]

You can.... Aethervial it out. I realized it can only be done in mono black for alternative stability of the whole deck, aether charge 3 flash maralen of the mornsong, flash opposition agent. Next turn, add 1 charge to aether... And If you have, flash it... Else you slowly watch the opponent sweat and beat the shit out of them with voidwalker

[@joegaffney8006]

Just remembered Justice Strike

[@baguetten8004]

@@joegaffney8006 I've played Justice Strike in Historic a while back against an Obliterator deck. Best feeling ever

[@casucasueq4479]

Had a lot of fun with big mana MBC on MTGO with coffers, cloudpost, Urborg, korlash & solemn simulacrums... granted this was awhile ago and on the casual ext / 2hg tables. Love your recent MBC vids, brought back some good memories :)

[@daytimecloudsurfer]

i ran obliterator, mono black control with lashwrithes back in the day, my favorite deck from then

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Yeah, I still have a casual deck with Nighthawks and Lashwrithes from back in the day. LOVE IT!

[@ryanschwartz6927]

I was match 1 opponent. it was fun to play you Phil. GG (next time leave the leylines at home)

[@MaxMckayful]

Almost a pure "4-of"'s deck. Love to see it. Black's greatest hits. Let's goooooo.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

It just feels clean!

[@meldspinelord14]

I'll be looking forward to seeing your Hypnotic Spectre & Tourach deck, for sure there's gonna be some nostalgia in it too, just like the old Hypnotic Spectre times.

[@jacobbaird1180]

Let’s go Phyrexian Obliterator

[@mus0u]

holy cow i love Obliterator. i run it in my Athreos, Shroud-Veiled EDH deck. get a coin counter on that bad boy and it's like having my own personal unremovable Moat :] so hype to see it in Legacy!

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Athreos is dope.

[@StevenRiseNYC]

I Saw mono black and obliterator and smashed like immediately.

[@heepajunk]

Brutal topdeck at the end, but an amazing showing for mono-black in legacy.

[@zdenkonouzovsky6947]

Well the opponent did not draw anything relevant for like 3 turns before…

[@PatriciaCross]

I had a Obliterator deck for Modern years back. I kept a pair of Imps Mischief in the sideboard, with the biggest target being burn heavy decks. Always satisfying, always salt inducing.

[@llamarama6976]

9:04 funny part about that scenario after you empty their hand if their balustrade spy entered exile you could use you void walker to cast it for free on your opponent exiling their whole deck and just ending the game then and there.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

o.O

[@kentan9928]

Yeah the power of voidwalker

[@jetzine00]

This hit me right in the feels. Brought me wayyyy back.

[@melissalutherpendragon]

Yes! Bust out the Hyppies!

[@Kryptnyt]

I wouldn't actually mind seeing a Nighthawk Scavenger deck pop up, card always seemed really solid to me

[@Melissanoma]

Shoutout to Subversive Acolyte from jumpstart historic horizons. The small black creature that could turn itself into Phyrexian Negator. So many free wins because people blew themselves out assuming it was the same as Obliterator.

[@SiusBleach]

Congratz on 15k!

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Feels good! Giveaway incoming in the next week or two to celebrate!

[@Eisenwulf666]

I love Obliterator, but let's be honest..it's just a 5/5 dork for bbbb most of the times. Which is enough, sometimes. Sadly we need something more efficient in legacy. The rest of the deck is great btw, great control shell. Sorry if i was the fun police :P

[@ThrabenUniversity]

There's always Rotting Regisaur as a Dark Ritual-able threat. It just has a pretty big downside.

[@bluee3348]

Mono Black in legacy feels like an archetype that's like....1 or 2 cards away from being a legit piece of the meta. every time ive seen it played it feels like it's always way better than it seems like it'll be

[@ThrabenUniversity]

It in a slightly different form has been putting up some results in Legacy challenges and such. I've been pleasantly surprised by its power.

[@franksowell3893]

Thanks for all the great content, Phil! Have an amazing school year.

[@boccipiles]

I'm sure Leyline has never been cast as many times as that g3 against Dredge.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Yeah, that was pretty silly.

[@Stellar_Lake_sys]

good clean mono black go brrrrrr always a fun watch

[@IAmTheIsland]

I will watch all the mono-black legacy conetnt.

[@plaguedr8831]

Sick list/games. I’ve always wanted to build PO and it seems the cards released this past year or so have made the deck. Subbed!

[@jaggededge11]

I love Obliterator. I put one into my Modern Yawgmoth sideboard (Since it's easy to tutor or cast) to deal with Red decks/removal (Or the occasional Hammer Time). Just don't go up against an Asmo deck, or you're going to have a bad time.

[@jaggederest]

Dech Tech comment: for lifelink I've seen a lot of interesting results from Unexpected Fangs, especially on the Big Boye

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think that's a great Pauper card, but I'm not sure how well it holds up in a Swords to Plowshares format.

[@jaggederest]

@@ThrabenUniversity At least as well as Vampire Nighthawk, sadly! :)

[@thehydra730]

I think Leech Gauntlet, Gifted Aetherborn, or Grimdancer would be better if you want to go that deep. Or just run Grey Merchant.

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

@@thehydra730 ooooh gary. Thats to much spice for legacy tho..... Is it?

[@morganschramek794]

Momobaggins here. No hard feelings for taking my trophy hahaha

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Best of luck in getting your first!

[@morganschramek794]

@@ThrabenUniversity thank you!

[@ianhoffbeck]

🖤Behold🖤blessed🖤perfection🖤

[@mitchsirois606]

You should try playing Takenuma w/ Slogurk, it's what made me appreciate both of those cards albeit I played them in my Legacy+ cube.

[@nephisolo]

Demigod of revenge, reanimate, intuition. For the next nostalgia video

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I've never had too much luck with getting that card to work in Legacy, unfortuantely.

[@nephisolo]

@@ThrabenUniversity regretting my 16$ foil play set now

[@evanperkins3467]

So close to the trophy!!! Great run

[@duncanosborn8931]

Loving all the mono black content, what do you think is the best one you've played?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

It's hard to say. They all have different strengths. It's hard to pick a "best" in a vacuum.

[@joaoroyo]

started playing legacy again after a 3 year hiatus (sold all my cards), making a deadguy ale pool (i don't like meta decks). Seeing decks like this makes me wonder if I should have gone only mono-black instead for the pool >.

[@SirSilicon]

If you need some lifelink, maybe urzas saga /shadowspear is a low cost option. even if its anti-synergistic with pyrexian obliterator.

[@cleoh3]

Woo Phil optimizing the education of the youths let's go!

[@mamathana]

You da best Phil!

[@effiefoemperor]

Instant like for OBLITERATER

[@stevedavid9185]

No Lake of the Dead? I used to use that to power out cards when I played mono B 8-rack and I ran 2 obliterators as additional closers. Glad to see that card getting some love!

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think it's better when you already want fatties that are Grave Titan or large in size.

[@joelars9348]

Thanks for the content! Goodluck with teaching!

[@tiagochoairy9755]

Great video. Very cool.

[@impendio]

More mono black legacy yeaaaah

[@daneofdanger]

This is a good place for Chrome Mox

[@zackpumpkinhead8882]

30:35 Just the single best voice crack in the history of Magic

[@robertbanham8167]

More black decks :) and further proof Phil is a Phyrexian wearing a human meat suit.

[@cuttlefish6839]

Game one shows why simian spirit guide was banned in modern by showing how broken it is in legacy.

[@Gullffoss]

Should you replace your thoughtseizes by inquisitions of kozilek when sideboarding against Lands in round 2? Or are the 2 life worth it just to fight against Force of Vigor? Love the content!

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Seems reasonable.

[@mus0u]

your comment about Phyrexian Arena vs Bob made me wonder if that would be a reasonable alternative in decks like this with higher CMC cards?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think so. It's still hardcastable off Dark Ritual.

[@diegocrusius]

good job. Hope you are better from covid

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I'm most of the way better after about a month. I've still got a lingering cough and some nasal stuff, but it's getting better each day.

[@nugenma]

Love the video

[@rosly_yt]

Round 1 Game 1 vs Round 1 Game 2 reversal was iconic. Also, is this a sufficiently comboy deck that it can use a breakfast food name? I can't think of anything better than dark roast, but I'm sure there's something creative out there. Maybe a dish involving black beans?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I try to name my decks things that are obvious to an outsider. The game is complex enough that I'd like to keep deck names accessible at least.

[@thehegemon1024]

@@ThrabenUniversity You were talking about that on the podcast. I see the point, especially as a moderately new player who still has no idea what makes a deck be Deadguy Ale. However, it does feel a little less "magical". Having a deep pool of elder knowledge to be explored was part of what got me into MtG a few years ago.

[@rosly_yt]

@@ThrabenUniversity Understandable. I am a huge fan of weird deck names, and they seem to be slowly but surely dying out.

[@lllevokelll]

Flashing in Obliterator in to surprise block, tho... Get some flash in there, even if it's Aether Vial (which avoids needing x4 black), Splash blue for free pitch Misdirection to redirect damage to a new (Obliterator) target. If you're going to run it, let people get rekt.

[@Reversespacehippie]

Obligatory algorithmic contribution

[@bububu__]

i see phyrexian obliterator i click like, simple as

[@noneofyourbusiness4133]

Love tgis

[@XxSHARKMANxX]

Any consideration of going bigger? Perhaps remove the Bobs, add a few Grave Titans and maybe a fun of or two Lake of the Dead?

[@redmetalpanda9051]

maybe karns, sol lands, wurmcoil. p.s. i wonder how black 12post would do. imagine tron with Bobs! urborg and coffers!

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I like LotD as more of a "juke" for Reanimator strategies that already want to play the fatties.

[@plunkdaddy4505]

I’ve been thinking of building a mono black legacy deck (I just ordered the store championship bobs) and I was wondering if you would recommend this deck or the trophy leyline of the void/dauthi voidwalker deck.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

If you're looking to have fun, this is great. If you're looking to win, I'd go in the Helm / Leyline direction that has more results.

[@grahamoliver1470]

Could Cling to Dust work for some lifegain? I would worry that it's pretty overkill with the rest of the graveyard hate that's already in the deck

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I haven't been overly impressed by that card. It's like...fine at everything.

[@TraeKryzer]

I think this could have defiantly used a copy of Hive of the Eye Tyrant instead of that legendary land. Sure, it may enter tapped later into the game, but generally I don't think you'll both need to play this, and not have drawn it earlier. There were a number of times where you sat for a turn without something to do. A man land is great to fill those turns.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Sure, but every game where I can't cast an on curve Obliterator or equivalent is potentially an immediate loss to my manabase.

[@TraeKryzer]

@@ThrabenUniversity Yeah I know. I'm thinking that'll be rare and worth the risk. For the amount of turns you're left without gas, or would rather do something without expending resources is far greater than the amount of times you would draw the one copy of this on turn 4 and already have Oblitorator and your only hope is drawing swamp. That's a lot of things that have to line up for it to be really bad. Because if it's not exactly your fourth land drop or you don't have Oblitorator, then it won't really be noticed I think. I feel it's definitely worth a shot.

[@AaronRotenberg]

So Phil, are you more known for mono-black now than DnT? 😄

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

We are not a cult. We do not perform dark rituals here. All is good here inquisitor.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I'd rephrase it to "I'm more known for jank than D&T."

[@baguetten8004]

SPICY

[@ashx8772]

What made you decide to study /teach Latin ?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Short version is that I wanted to be a scientist, took Latin as my language requirement, and fell in love iwth it.

[@prodigaIProdigy]

Was there any consideration towards running Lake of the Dead when you're on this many swamps and gunning for 3-4 cost plays ahead of curve?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think I only like lake if you are going to "Grave Titan" levels of mana or beyond.

[@yuven437]

Why no cabal coffers and urborg?

[@michaellevine8477]

How do we fit Helm into this deck, because it's almost perfect

[@Tooldruid]

The Helm idea would be switching at a minimum 8 cards (usually 12 w Dauthi and Leyline to MD)…or you could do a transformational sb to fit in helm. Obliterator would be the first to cut imo

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I think you get a Helm package or the creature package. I don't think it's a "both and" situation.

[@michaellevine8477]

@@ThrabenUniversity Obviously we play Yorion, duh ;)

[@Melvinvanharn]

I was informed by the reddit Legacy community that a vanilla 20/20 for 4 would not be playable. Clearly a 5/5 for 4 is 4x as worse.

[@loganboyle8321]

Thoughts on making this into a saga+map+coffees build kinda like the modern deck

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Obliterator is the best card in every format, so it'll probably be fine ;)

[@koloblicin9721]

How did something like mox diamond or even lotus petal not make the cut in this deck to enable a t1 obliterator?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

While that's reasonable, I'm not sure that the deck draws enough bonus cards to want too many of that effect.

[@JL-fh4qw]

How about Desecration Demon or Tombstalker instead of Obliterator?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Both are totally fine. I just like Obliterator for nostalgia.

[@Aphidae]

I am a simple girl, I see Phyrexian Obliterator I click.

[@markdudley6411]

So I know this is probably way too cute but if you could fit urza's saga into this deck then you could have triangle of war as a tutor target and just get people with Phyrexian Obliterator.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

The BBBB cost makes Saga a really hard sell.

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

@@ThrabenUniversity borgie boi, ez fix saga package with map and spear if you want more grind over pure power and disruption. Idk if it would be good in the meta rn, being alot of decks are fast combo right now

[@markdudley6411]

But is it worth it for an obliterator to fight a 9/9 murktide? Probably not, but that's a pretty sweet screenshot.

[@mahavemann]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED FULL TIME PHIL. Also is there a reason half your swamps are snow-covered?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Predict targeting me.

[@Bancheis]

Good video. Just a little criticism. Not a fan of the camera placement blocking the chat from the opponent. Might be better top right covering the game log rather than the chat log. Their reactions are less entertaining since we get them late, unless the game ends before we see it.

[@JocoBreRbC]

What's the reason for playing half snow basics?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Predict.

[@JocoBreRbC]

@@ThrabenUniversity I can't, that's why I ask

[@ThrabenUniversity]

@@JocoBreRbC The card, Predict.

[@JocoBreRbC]

Ah lol, you bamboozled me xd

[@AutumnReel4444]

BBBB is what the true P.O. costs, not 3U.

[@dustinfurness2155]

Almost modern legal. Opposition Agent is pretty much the only card I notice that isn’t legal in modern but for modern could replace it with something else like gray merchant, duress, ashiok depending on what you’re trying to do

[@GatekeeperDatuck]

Dark Ritual and Hymn to Tourach are not Modern legal, and they are really important for the deck. Maybe something could replace them in Modern, but I am not familiar with what is played in that format.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

Maybe you can do some Urborg/Cabal Coffers stuff there to make up for the lack of Dark Ritual.

[@dustinfurness2155]

@@ThrabenUniversity thanks I didn’t think about that Also why sudden edict but no bloodchief’s thirst, fatal push, murder or any other mono-black creature destruction spells that allow you to choose what gets destroyed rather than relying on your opponent having just one threat they are forced to sacrifice because they have only a single creature in play?

[@jer-bet-9781]

How do I get. Deck list of this ?

[@ThrabenUniversity]

The decklist for every video should be in the video description. Click "show more" if you can't see it!

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

:D

[@invitedmonster8]

Just wanted to make a side... This is the third video ive watched you interact with a fan in mtgo chat... Happened to be matched against Bryant Cook.. "Said the for the content" to no response... G3 I did a "no, legit thank you" cuz was unsure if my msg was received positivly.. Got a "I try not to chat when I record" watched the video and not even a "opps a fan of the channel shoutout"... Thought it was the thing, it isn't thank you for acknowledging 5 seconds out of your game when you run into fan..

[@ThrabenUniversity]

I'm making content for the fans, so of course I'd say hi!

[@abeybaebe2514]

Big bad and mono black.

[@NerdGlassGamingPA]

I think Obli is too powerful and broken imo. It is dumb. It should have been non-land permanents.

[@ThrabenUniversity]

If you think about how infrequently this actually shows up in competitive play, it's actually not all that bad. The card is strong, but it has a high mana cost and isn't great vs white removal.

[@baple]

Do you think if you went bald you would get a hair restoration procedure?