October 15 - A Welsh teacher and poet is executed

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@janefoley6541
@janefoley6541 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, it's not often there are many compassionate things written about Catholic martyrs and their deaths.
@almontepaolilli7531
@almontepaolilli7531 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Welshman who had much courage facing death for his religious beliefs. Had a brief pet cameo which I like.
@Wrexham_AFC
@Wrexham_AFC 4 жыл бұрын
Fan from Wrexham here! Have been watching your videos for a while now, so it’s weird to hear you mention all of these local place names. Thank you for all of your hard work, Claire (and Tim, of course!) 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😊
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Hello to you in Wrexham! My grandparents lived in Shotton and my parents live in Connahs Quay.
@christinefinegan6939
@christinefinegan6939 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Wrexham for many years and never knew this. Thank you
@chasegordon9683
@chasegordon9683 4 жыл бұрын
Bless and thank you for sharing! Very educational and truly beneficial videos you always share!
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bridgetofold5645
@bridgetofold5645 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this history note! My Great-grandfather came from Wales. I am part third off the boat. I have always wanted to visit, research and experience.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Wales is beautiful, so do go and visit when you get chance.
@tammyvanlue2417
@tammyvanlue2417 4 жыл бұрын
People died in such horrific ways and reasons back then!!So sad...But keep up dating us on Tudor history.
@lindaflynn68
@lindaflynn68 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Claire. Amazing how those who played a part in his horrific death had bad karma coming to them. 💜
@OurBucketListHasHoles
@OurBucketListHasHoles 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Claire 💜
@darlenefarmer5921
@darlenefarmer5921 4 жыл бұрын
Goodness...thank you.
@chiaroscuroamore
@chiaroscuroamore 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Gywn had some good insults!! His wife was brave too, to speak as she did and keep her head. A horrible way to die 😢 It’s interesting that so many of his persecutors has bad things happen to them. I’ll be tuning in again tomorrow to see what happened in Tudor history
@darcidecaesaria9071
@darcidecaesaria9071 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my new favorites
@barbaramccoy3592
@barbaramccoy3592 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, Welsh language again - I wonder if he wrote a poem about the keys to the beer cellar? Seriously, though, he seems to have been quite tenacious and witty, even in miserable moments. As always, Claire, thanks to you both for all your hard work.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he does seem to have been witty.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@anneboleynfiles A personality trait that can make enemies. I think Alexander Pope, also known for sarcasm, once wrote a poem with the words "Yes, I am proud: I must be proud to see/ men not afraid of God afraid of me." He was hunchbacked, and Catholic - my guess is he got his retaliation in first.
@irairod5160
@irairod5160 4 жыл бұрын
I love your work, thank you for sharing it with us.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@giraffequeen9437
@giraffequeen9437 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jillwilliams2799
@jillwilliams2799 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos
@irairod5160
@irairod5160 4 жыл бұрын
Oooooooh...that detail about "pulling on his legs" out of mercy...[shudder]
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
Strange that it didn't work. Perhaps the noose was improperly fixed. This seems to have been a case of an execution's pain being prolonged due to incompetence rather than deliberate sadism. In 1645 Henry Morse, a Jesuit priest, was drawn and quartered in London. A youth broke through and pulled on Morse's legs while he was hanging. By the time the executioner drove the youth off, Morse was dead. Morse had treated plague victims in the previous decade and was relatively popular.
@matthewpaulbond9351
@matthewpaulbond9351 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Claire for giving this account of a saint not to well know to many. We have a part of his shoulder bone in a reliquary in the Cathedral. We are not sure as to where he was executed on the beast market, but it is likely that it was where Tesco now stands. There is a plague nearby that gives reference to him though.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you for that information!
@joansmith3296
@joansmith3296 4 жыл бұрын
There is so much tragedy in this world from intolerant people who refuse to allow people to worship as they choose. Lives lost, wars fought. And for what? Very sad ending for this man, Thanks Claire..
@SyriusStarMultimedia
@SyriusStarMultimedia 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing has changed as of tonight.
@mollykeane2571
@mollykeane2571 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps there are certain belief systems that shouldn’t be tolerated.
@marionarnott750
@marionarnott750 4 жыл бұрын
@@mollykeane2571 It was lack of tolerance which caused the death of martyrs on both sides.
@mollykeane2571
@mollykeane2571 4 жыл бұрын
@@marionarnott750 Can’t really expect much more from the Abrahamic religions.
@slightlyconfused876
@slightlyconfused876 4 жыл бұрын
You could blame it on the Pope telling Catholics that it was their duty to Kill Queen Elizabeth. Not easy to be sympathetic to your potential assassin.
@mollykeane2571
@mollykeane2571 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing courage some people have in defense of their beliefs. If I was given the choice of church or having my entrails pulled out of me I know what I’d choose.
@nancythecat1079
@nancythecat1079 4 жыл бұрын
So sad. :(
@lisamichels1825
@lisamichels1825 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning from Michigan, USA
@nayten0324
@nayten0324 4 жыл бұрын
I’m here because I just found out I’m his 14X great grandson bruh
@NCKrypotonite33
@NCKrypotonite33 4 жыл бұрын
They sure didn't mind signing death warrants back in Tudor days...talk about overkill
@bootjeb2674
@bootjeb2674 4 жыл бұрын
So sad :(
@pollydolly9723
@pollydolly9723 4 жыл бұрын
Because forcing religious views on people ALWAYS works 🙄
@jennifertonyan9984
@jennifertonyan9984 4 жыл бұрын
Forcing anything on a person always works out great. Yea right... lol craziness
@Lyndell-P
@Lyndell-P 4 жыл бұрын
🇭🇲🦘 What can anyone say, other than how dreadful a death for a good man, as Richard Gwyn appears to have been. A family man, a teacher and poet. His wife also appears to have been 'quite a woman'. The severe attack of the birds must have been quite severe to have made him think that it was a heavenly 'sign' or 'omen' and to then change his faith, and then 'pay the price' for doing so. He was obviously not afraid to die, but it is the manner of his execution that is so hard to deal with. The poor man, to have remained conscious during the worst of it. Actual death would then have been a 'blessing' which he prayed for during his execution. Death finally came to 'save' him! To have been charged with High Treason, I find astounding. Not just Treason but High Treason. A teacher, poet and family man who hurt no one. A sad end indeed for this good Welshman. Another most interesting video. "Thank you" Claire 💓👑👍
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3_SgZKMp9OgebM Somehow it makes me think of this...
@alyssao517
@alyssao517 4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth wasn’t a tolerant as history portrays
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
None of the monarchs of the time were.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
It was over two decades into her reign before she started executing Catholics in large numbers, and this was mainly because Catholicism was perceived as a political danger. Elizabeth's own religious beliefs are a mystery - when some of her Yeomen of the Guard turned out to follow a religious sect of Flanders origin called the Family of Love, she ignored it, which led to rumours she was a follower of the group. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familia_Caritatis
@colinlavelle7806
@colinlavelle7806 4 жыл бұрын
I think her hand was finally forced by the Papal excommunication.
@maryh4650
@maryh4650 4 жыл бұрын
I live near Wrexham.
@chrisnorton9531
@chrisnorton9531 4 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me anything about Thomas " Rackmaster " Norton? I've found he's my 13th great grandfather. Love your videos.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't looked into him I'm afraid.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about Norton but Richard Topcliffe was a real SOB.
@meredithcullen2267
@meredithcullen2267 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously he didn't consider what would happen to his poor wife and children when he was dead. All very well to stick to your principles when it's only your own life you risk.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
He had her full blessing and she was prepared to die too.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
The mentality was one of good fortune in this life being as nothing compared to salvation in the next. A Catholic writer mentioned people being "ruined in their temporalities" (ie. losing money and property) due to their allegiance to Catholicism but that this was nothing compared to the price of abandoning the true religion, ie. eternal damnation.
@slightlyconfused876
@slightlyconfused876 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt like most religious bigots his going to heaven mattered more than their lives on Earth.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@slightlyconfused876 It was a different time - Isabella in "Measure For Measure" springs to mind. Modern people find her a bit repulsive but in 1604, when the play was first performed she might have been more sympathetic. I personally find people like Gwyn rather admirable.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@slightlyconfused876 Either you believe in it, with all the implications, or you don't. It was one or the other in 1584, without the many intermediate stages you might get in a later age. There was a category of people at the time called "Church Papists" - basically Catholics but they avoided trouble and monetary fines by occasional attendance at Anglican services. The Protestants despised them as Catholics, while the more uncompromising Catholics despised them as cowards and compromisers.
@Sabrinajaine
@Sabrinajaine 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes, that's not a good thing to happen on my birthday
@Lyndell-P
@Lyndell-P 4 жыл бұрын
No, not a good thing at all. However, happened over 400 years ago, so I think you can celebrate your birthday. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" Sabrina. Hope you have a great day. 🎂🥳🎁
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday! Perhaps Edward VI's christening on this day in 1537 is a better event.
@Sabrinajaine
@Sabrinajaine 4 жыл бұрын
@@anneboleynfiles and Lyndell - thank you! ☺️
@michellerhodes9910
@michellerhodes9910 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! It's like Daphne du Maurier's horror story 'The Birds' (later made into an iconic movie by Alfred Hitchcock). You could imagine the effect that experience would have. He comes over a real sweet guy. I've often wondered at their sending the pieces of the remains to different parts of the community. Yes, it is punitive but is it also something to do with the Christian belief of resurrection on the last day? Did they think that if the body was in bits that it couldn't happen? (There are some cultures even today who if a limb is removed or lost will have it preserved to be buried with them).
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a strange encounter and people of that time took such events as signs or portents.
@wendychavez5348
@wendychavez5348 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was a twisted way of warning other "rebels" to keep quiet
@Sun_Flower1
@Sun_Flower1 4 жыл бұрын
🌻
@ginna1375
@ginna1375 4 жыл бұрын
Someone died on this day in Tudor history. I, for one, am shocked.
@curlytopkitty2468
@curlytopkitty2468 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍😂
@denisedick721
@denisedick721 4 жыл бұрын
Poor man
@catherinejohnson2235
@catherinejohnson2235 4 жыл бұрын
More Teasel!
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 4 жыл бұрын
More blood shed in the name of religion, so many men and women paid with their lives for their beliefs.
@sharoncole8249
@sharoncole8249 4 жыл бұрын
💖👑👑💖xx
@1aikane
@1aikane 4 жыл бұрын
Barbarism. Backwardness. Hideous history of cruel and unenlightened people.
@mickowen568
@mickowen568 4 жыл бұрын
im surprised some king seemed 2 die every day
@Pembroke1
@Pembroke1 4 жыл бұрын
Well he may have been executed but they got just deserts
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect it was wishful thinking - they may not have had such bad ends, or at any rate not all of them.
@annettefournier9655
@annettefournier9655 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Claire. How could his wife have her baby in her arms if he was imprisoned 4 years earlier? The child would at least be 3 years old.
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the account again, she's with another woman and it's not clear whose the baby is, but I know that Gwyn was given some freedom by his gaoler and his wife did visit.
@dinawillert3524
@dinawillert3524 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Elizabethans weren't as tolerant as we have been brought up to think. (At least in the U.S.)
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
Where did they get that idea? I thought Americans were taught that Puritans came to America to get away from government persecution and Dutch "wickedness"...
@daver8521
@daver8521 4 жыл бұрын
A very sad story. But I just do not understand such people. I am not the stuff of which martyrs are made. I would have outwardly conformed and kept my beliefs secret. It is almost as if all of these people. Catholic and Protestant, had a death wish.
@curlytopkitty2468
@curlytopkitty2468 4 жыл бұрын
Me too..I would've sworn allegiance to a chair leg.....
@anneboleynfiles
@anneboleynfiles 4 жыл бұрын
People of the time were very aware that life was short, death was all around them, and they were far more concerned about the fate of their eternal souls.
@curlytopkitty2468
@curlytopkitty2468 4 жыл бұрын
@@anneboleynfiles thats true....could do with a spot of that today......just a spot mind..!!😘
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@anneboleynfiles I suspect they would have shrugged something like Covid off, not least because more lethal diseases were in circulation.
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 3 ай бұрын
The Tudors tortured and executed far more people than the famed Spanish Inquisition. Henry Vlll had 37000 people executed. I know no more than the number. Not why.
@SafetySpooon
@SafetySpooon 4 жыл бұрын
Half the remarks recorded would be *funny* if they weren't about so tragic an event.
@rivinius1
@rivinius1 3 жыл бұрын
ora pro nobis
@toffthe
@toffthe 4 жыл бұрын
That morning, the day of his execution, he had a breakfast of a smoked salmon bagel with cream cheese and a small yoghurt
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