Oculus Rift vs HTC Vive | Review

[@fishum6483]

It's seems so perfect to me that a person reviewing vr headsets has extreme red marks on his nose where the headsets have been resting on his face.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Common mistake, it's actually from my glasses. I take them off in videos because of the glare my lenses give off from the lights.

[@Alkatraz581]

Thac0 Gamers get better glasses You shouldn’t get red marks

[@MrsSamantha]

@@Thac0Gamers I get that glare too, but I love being able to focus too much to take off my glasses. 🕶

[@BanovaYT]

Thac0 Gamers like what kinda glasses do you have haah

[@Utshaw]

@@Thac0Gamers That's why I always try to get lighter glasses .

[@oriolpujolmartinez7268]

On the Oculus, the lens distance knob is not clunky at all! You have to push the knob and then you can move it nicely. It took me a couple of weeks to find out.

[@Thac0Gamers]

It took everyone's comments in here for me to learn that. I'm dumb....

[@axeandace7728]

wow thanks, im really struggling to figure out which one i want, i think im probably going to go with the oculus, since i care more about less cords and a lighter easier setup

[@MrsSamantha]

@@axeandace7728 Same.

[@voltagemike4457]

i didnt even know, after over a year lmao , but always tought it was dead easy

[@thecarwasherofshangri-la]

this is why you read the instructions

[@kaicharlton2244]

FINALLY!! It's taken so long to find a review with someone who knows what they're talking about. I always find people who bought VR because it looked cool and wanted to record their thoughts. Finding this video was great. Thanks for the review! :)

[@Thac0Gamers]

Wow, thanks! Glad I could be helpful!

[@famousaj1]

I've been on the fence for awhile. Now with the price drop and your recommendation, Rift wins.

[@Thac0Gamers]

I'm sure you'll love it! It's a lot of fun!

[@VR360TV]

Nice comparison, thanks for the video.

[@Thac0Gamers]

No worries, thanks for commenting! :)

[@jessehadaway9375]

Oculus Rift has the worst warranty of any company in the VR field. NO repairs done, NO warranty if you bought it used, NO exchanges. All around bad company to do business with for such a high dollar item.

[@nikoranta7345]

@Blaauwe The build quality is all around worse. That's why arcades only use Vives, Rift isn't really and option if you need a durable set.

[@TheCrypticLight]

Got an oculus 10/10 and i have glasses and works perfectly fine theres enough space from the lenses and my glasses :D

[@Thac0Gamers]

Sweet!!!!!

[@tylerrivas6003]

Cryptic Light describe how it feels with glasses pls, I need to learn more.

[@ram89572]

I wish I could wear my glasses with my oculus. My frames are too big, but then again so is my head. Still torn between trying to get vr prescription lenses or contacts

[@vitusbirk6355]

Good to know

[@JohnnySR15]

Oculus > HTC Vive

[@jaspermooren5883]

There are companies that make prescription lenses for the Oculus Rift. So basically you have glasses that fit perfectly inside.

[@Thac0Gamers]

That is awesome news!! Many people will appreciate knowing that! TY! :)

[@CreossCross]

Do you remember the names of any of these companies?

[@grsshppr7659]

If the screens are inches from eyes, do nearsighted ppl need to wear glasses?

[@hizokuto]

@@grsshppr7659 I had that misconception until I tried it. The depth of field is like real life. Its like the lenses allow you focus to infinity and relax. I tried an oculus rift and without my glasses I had to bring a piece of paper in game an inch up to my eye and squint to be able to read it while everything far was blurred. Each eye gets a separate image. Basically, you don't feel like your focusing on a screen, so you don't get fatigued from getting cross eyed or focusing close (VR isn't like holding a screen up to your nose). You can also adjust the spacing between lenses, so you don't get too much of a binocular effect. If you can find a way to demo any of them at like Best Buy, then do it.

[@mikicerise6250]

I'm getting those. Another 74€ but using glasses in a Rift is hell. My nose bridge looks like a car wreck right now.

[@Rocco-tb9ih]

I know this video is over a year old, but it actually really helped me. I've just pre-ordered the Rift S after having a vive since early 2017 and I thought you needed some software which didn't exist yet to play vive games on Oculus. Glad to hear that it just works!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Glad I could help!!! :)

[@smaniz]

Great comparison. After trying out both before the purchase I went with Oculus and so far I've been very pleased with it. The touch controllers are just amazing, so intuitive. Also, I do wear glasses and didn't have any issues with the Oculus headset. No rubbing or anything between my glasses and the Oculus lenses. It's very comfortable. I guess if you have a huge head plus large glasses frame you will have a problem with wearing Oculus. I play mainly driving/flying sims so tracking with the 2 sensors was never an issue either. Even tho in my case it was never about the cost, I did like the fact that the Oculus was a bargain compared to the cost of the Vive. And buying both would have been kind of overkill. Really don't need 2 VR headsets. Having said that I personally am still not very satisfied with the resolution and picture quality on both headsets. Since it's just first gen I guess it's ok but not good enough yet imho. We need a lot denser/higher resolutions. So we still need to wait another few years to get there where I would like the picture quality and sharpness to be. Cheers from Germany :)

[@Thac0Gamers]

That's good to know. My daughter has pretty thick glasses and they can come in contact with the lenses, especially if she tries to adjust her headset while gaming. I agree about the resolution, it could be better but it hasn't stopped me from enjoying my VR headsets. My favorite so far has been Elite: Dangerous. In VR you really feel like Han Solo. Pretty badass!!! :)

[@EinkOLED]

You have to be careful you don't scratch the lenses. I would suggest using contact lenses.

[@ValentineC137]

Well, the vive Pro is out with a good increase in resolution

[@selfmadetray5836]

smaniz What you guys don't get is higher resolution = to ruining people eyes do you know how close the lenses are to people eyes

[@brendanprunier9203]

Yes the lenses are very close to the eyes, but they are adjusted for that matter. If you were to look into a VR headset like the Oculus Rift from far away when it is not on your head, the screen would look incredibly blurry.

[@juker92]

Best review i've seen so far, thanks for sharing

[@Thac0Gamers]

thanks for the kind works... much appreciated!!!!

[@chrisl.5425]

This was a tough decision my friend. Thank you so much for the detailed, honest review. Really helped me out. You probably already know this, but Bethesda added official Rift support for Fallout 4 in June 2018, so that was a nice surprise :) I'm going with the Rift.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yeah, I had heard that. Haven't tried it though. Skyrim works great with Oculus so I'm sure FO4 does as well.

[@lewify4634]

Almost 2019 and it’s still useful! Thanks!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[@lewify4634]

Thac0 Gamers I got an oculus rift but my graphics card has a hdmi port and a display port so I am waiting for my DisplayPort to hdmi adapter to arrive

[@thealexguy1486]

Are the red marks on his nose from too much VR? XD Great video btw

[@Thac0Gamers]

Nope, just my glasses. But thanks for noticing! :p

[@inkmeal]

Great review. I have the Vive, the Rift and the PSVR. I agree with every point you made and at the end of the day, while it's far from a blow-out, I play my Rift more than any of the other VR platforms.

[@Thac0Gamers]

That's kind of my feeling as well...

[@ArcherJ1]

Really interesting viewpoints, when I used to set up the Oculus Rifts in my electronics program they were a pain in the ass in terms of the program freezing up, the headset not responding and the cord getting loose and having to shimmy it back into the headset to get it working again. I'm thinking about getting one before the year ends and I'm probably going to have to go with Vive not just from my bad experience from Oculus but because of your very informative video.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Overall I think the Vive is a better deal for most people. If you can put up with the controllers and the deeper hit on the pocketbook.

[@annenouk5272]

Finally a great, useful comparison. Thanks a lot for this.

[@Thac0Gamers]

No problem, thanks for stopping by! :)

[@darkshadow7709]

I love my Rift! Thank you for a side to side and to the point review. Subscribed:)

[@Thac0Gamers]

Glad I could help! Thanks for the sub! :)

[@alexsherman7414]

One of the best htc vs oculus comparison vids out there

[@Thac0Gamers]

hey, thanks!!!

[@fus-ro-dah]

Took me almost 2 years to decide! This really helped.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@mountainvibes3862]

So what you decide?

[@seanbarstow]

Great video! I'm planning on purchasing a headset very soon and my main holdup was compatibility which you addressed. I appreciate you taking the time to put this together!

[@Thac0Gamers]

I appreciate you taking the time to comment on it. Thanks for stopping by! :)

[@bensas42]

I hate that Oculus is owned by Facebook

[@ludzip]

why?

[@seb4179]

LudZip FaceBook is a scummy company

[@kobaltstaub287]

They'll probably ban all games with a gun in it LOL

[@sportsgiant0008]

kobalt staub lmfao

[@_Efan]

Old people console lol jk

[@ScoobGruber]

Thanks. I just purchased the Rift. Sending it back as my glasses don't fit even though i measured them first. Might try the vive instead

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yeah, not sure how they overlooked that. It's a bummer.

[@notbuster126]

I've owned the vive for about a year now and I never knew you could move the viewer forward and backward for glasses like that... holy cow lol I don't think it mentions it in any of the instructions when I first got it. Anyways, just got a Rift as well, will try it out for the first time in a few days :)

[@Thac0Gamers]

Let me know what you think of the 2 in comparison, I'm curious. Also, don't feel bad... I had to learn from the comment section of THIS VIDEO that the lens adjustment in the Rift isn't clunky. You have to push the knob in and then move it. I had no idea!!!

[@notbuster126]

ok here goes, have been using the rift for a couple days now with many titles, so I have a good feel for it now. I'll list the positives that stand out to me first. The simplicity of the system, it's basically unpack, plug in and go. There's not much too it, its actually portable if desired. I like that it actually has a eye calibration sweet spot setup. That was cool, vive does not have that. The lenses themselves, I felt like I got less screen door effect somehow on the rift but be it at lower resolution. The sensor that turns it on/off when you put on the rift or take it off is a nice touch, no need to press a button! Some not cool things, the lenses I think cause a sort of distortion like when you are trying to look at a panoramic photo and get that strange effect as it's trying to make it all work. The vive for sure has none of that. I actually prefer the vive head strap system, I have the upgraded headset strap so it's even better than the rifts standard one. I get a feel as if the rift is like 90% VR.. like it's not fully immersive as the vive. The vive is 100% there, you are there and can jump and stand, lay down, turn around all over, walk etc. The rift is like an intro to VR, while the Vive is FULL VR. I understand you can get the 3rd sensor but even then something just feels limiting. The reason I got the rift was to check it out for myself and not be a "fanboy" of either and also for the game exclusives. I didn't feel like "hacking" the vive to work with rift stuff. Overall rift is pretty cool, but I still give the win to Vive. It feels more polished but be it longer to set up. A comparison people might not agree with. Rift is Iphone, Vive is Android lol

[@ApexComplete]

I bring my Vive to friends houses all the time, it's easy to unscrew the sensors from the mounts and then use light stands when out and about

[@Thac0Gamers]

I don't have light stands, maybe I should get some...

[@npholmes09]

Great video! I went with the rift but I can't wait until the vive pro drops in price and the knuckles are readily available. I prefer good vr experience over being a fan boy for either company.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Reasonable choice. I agree, I like both and just love the world of VR in general.

[@MrWookLoaf]

Right On, i'm happy I found this video.. I've been looking over specs and doing comparisons in my mind, but this helps me quite a bit.. I had a PSVR, and it was pretty clunky and had quite a few tracking issues, I had to take it back because of pure frustration. But from knowing how I like to play VR (which is flailing around like a idiot) I'm thinking the Vive is going to be the one for me.. Thanks for the video.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yup, vive sounds like a good fit! Hope you enjoy it!

[@MrWookLoaf]

@@Thac0Gamers Thanks man.

[@mateo_7641]

Best review of all reviews on KZbin , I like you and I’ll subscribe thank you so much for this review

[@Thac0Gamers]

Holy cow!! Thank you so much for the kind words!!!

[@tuffel3502]

I like how you still answer to comments after all this Time! :)

[@Thac0Gamers]

It's hard to keep up with them but I try. I devote about 2 hours every week trying to keep up with them!! Thanks for noticing! :)

[@jr.redpanda5109]

Oculus is now 400 dollars

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

Jr. RedPanda 529.99

[@rileydonald710]

black nova it’s the exchange rate that does that (at least I think so)

[@fertexhid]

black nova That doesn't include the sensors...

[@fertexhid]

NEStefan That edition does not. Read it again

[@katefriesen]

NEStefan nope, just the headset and touch system. Its also the Amazon US website and if I wanted to get it in Canada it would be about 100 dollars more.

[@kwisatzhaderach1458]

Rift + Touch package is the sweet spot for entry into VR. Can't wait for Quest and HTC's next product.

[@Thac0Gamers]

I'm pretty pumped about Quest, not gonna lie!!!

[@vampxwgw]

I gotta disagree about room space vive is for smaller rooms and oculus is for bigger, when I owned an oculus I just hated how my hand would fly to the other side of a map, I can lay down and easily play on my vive with no glitching all in 360 I used my oculus sensor stands for my vive lighthouses and positioned them in certain areas, vive is a good pick if you want a true VR experience

[@Canal10000]

You must have failed with your placement of the Oculus sensors. I have three, two in the front and one behind, and the only tracking problem I get is when I am laying down on the floor too close to my desk. There is a great free app on the Oculus store which helps you to see how much of your play area your sensors can see

[@Thac0Gamers]

Vive does have better roomscale, no doubt... but Oculus is pretty good. I don't have the issues you had but, my Oculus sensors are up high on the wall so the desk isn't blocking anything. Maybe that helps...

[@LotusIII]

i have the oculus and im super happy with my choice, mainly because i watched a lot of videos trying to pick one and came up with the same info he is talking about (in one video). This is one of the best "Oculus vs. Vive" videos out there, you only need to watch this video to choose one, you cant really go wrong but good luck!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, glad you think this video is useful!! TY! Glad you're enjoying Oculus!!

[@j.m.sworld251]

november 2018 and still useful!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, thanks!!!!

[@_S.H_]

Man, the choice is really hard. If both had the same FOV and picture quality I would choose the Rift without a second thought.

[@hassanelzayat2042]

Got to be honest the oculus rift is a little better

[@Thac0Gamers]

Depends on what your looking for... but in some ways, yes it is.

[@hassanelzayat2042]

Thac0 Gamers got to be honest you had good statements and good video also you included the touch controls. I seen videos comparing htc to the rift with out the touch controls oculus which made the vid useless

[@firstmovementstreetstylesb1130]

I think this is the best comparison video on KZbin bro!!! Thanks for the explanations!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Wow, thanks!!!!

[@meh78336]

I can see why Oculus keep their first party games exclusive, they are paying for games to get made, which this early in the VR life cycle is a must as they can't rely on third parities to bring the games to entice the customers, they in turn won't make the games unless there are enough customers, and to be honest, the quality shows on their exclusives.

[@Morggin]

I picked up the oculus rift on black Friday for $350 + tax at best buy. ordered my custom prescription inserts on Cyber Monday for 20% off ~$49 + a fuzzy insert that goes over the face foam to keep it from getting too worn. Have had nothing but a good time with the rift. It will be much more fun when I get the inserts that are still shipping from Poland. Playing Alien Isolation and Skyrim VR.

[@Thac0Gamers]

I haven't tried any prescription inserts yet... let me know how you like them!!!

[@Morggin]

@@Thac0Gamers I got mine from widmovr.com (based in Poland) on Saturday, Dec 8th. I had them inserted into the rift in just a few minutes. Before I could only play for about 30 minutes as the pain from my regular prescription glasses pushing against my nose would eventually start to be more than I could bear. I was able to play all day in much greater comfort after getting these inserts. They make a world of difference in my humble opinion. On a side note, they are PLASTIC FRAMES so you will need to be careful with them. Also when I ordered them initially I used a written prescription that I had gotten from Costco a few years ago.

[@Dylan-ox9kf]

is it even necessary to use the sensors that you mount on your desk, wall, etc. for the oculus?

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yup. They are a point of reference for the headset. Without at least one, it won't work.

[@coryfreeman3028]

Excellent review! You didn't miss any points whatsoever and I have finally made my decision. I am going with the Oculus for my play style. Both sound amazing, but the Oculus best suits me. This review was amazing you covered every point possible and went into extreme detail. Thanks! This deserves a like!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Wow, thanks so much!!!

[@TheZarvinMC]

really you had problems with crashing on the vive? that's crazy i've had my vive for over a year now and i don't think i've crashed once.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yeah, still do to this day.... although with firmware updates it's gotten to be a LOT better, but it does happen.

[@michaelv3358]

Such a good review, all of his points make sense and he adds reason to his points. I honestly was surprised to see your sub count lower than 100k or even a mil. Thanks for the review!

[@Thac0Gamers]

wow, thanks man!!! I'm getting the Oculus Quest tomorrow and will have a review of that up soon! Hopefully that video will be as well received.

[@michaelv3358]

Thac0 Gamers I’m sure it will especially since the hype for the quest is huge! :)

[@kadthejedi]

pc master race

[@Thac0Gamers]

;)

[@zachary2890-l9k]

Me to laptop owners You are on the council, but we do not grant you the rank of master.

[@puttputtthetruck8805]

ya yeet

[@E101ification]

PC Master Cringe. Video has nothing whatsoever to do with consoles or PC. You people really have zero idea how embarrassing those posts look to everyone on the outside, do you?

[@E101ification]

@@zachary2890-l9k When someone really is the best at something, they rarely need to point it out every 5 minutes to whoever will listen.........like PC gamers do.

[@ev3rst0rm]

Because of the Oculus Rift’s springs, you can wear the headset with glasses as long as you adjust the two straps on the front. I have glasses and it’s not really an issue

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hmm... my daughter can get the headset on... but the lenses on her glasses hit the oculus lenses. Glass on glass can't be good. I think it depends on the particular glasses you're trying to squeeze in there.

[@ev3rst0rm]

Thac0 Gamers That’s true... My glasses are fairly small. However, when my HDMI wasn’t working on my Rift (nearly crapped myself) I discovered the part that resets on your face is detachable, and I assume that someone secondary company makes those parts but for people with glasses. Not sure if those really exist, but probably better than buying an $800 headset if they do.

[@alexandergordievitch5634]

You deserve way more subscribers

[@Thac0Gamers]

Well, thanks!! I appreciate that!

[@ghostnote_]

finally found a damn good review about Rift and Vive

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, thanks for the damn good comment!!!! :)

[@Storm_LunaTic]

So im considering getting an oculus for christmas and have been watching a few videos just to be sure itll be all smooth sailing setting it up and that its worth the cost and if i wasnt already sold, this video did it for me. Ive used both for short periods of time in the past, and used the psvr for several hours for RE VII but i found both the vive and the psvr too heavy. The oculus just felt super light and comfortable. The screen wasnt as perfect as the vive but honestly id prefer comfort over perfect visuals as the vive would slide down my face and make things blurry anywaya

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yeah, it all comes down to those personal preferences. The 2 are different but nothing is a game changer. Hope you enjoy your Oculus! :)

[@geminijune8335]

I can't speak for the Vive, but I did recently pick up the Oculus this black Friday, and it's an awesome VR experience. I do find that there is quite a bit of blurriness on the Oculus, but the games and controllers are what makes it a forgivable win.

[@XxBanditNoah]

fyi i had the same problem with it sliding down you just need to tighten it a lot more

[@jamesr.mireles7964]

Excellent, even-handed comparison. For me the Vive was the right choice, but I refer friends to your video so they can get a solid overview of the pros and cons of each.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, thanks a lot! I'm glad that I can be helpful. I'm going to start posting more VR gaming reviews too, as people have been requesting them.

[@montexd]

13:20 i think this was just you because this has never happened to me or any of my friends

[@Thac0Gamers]

It may be. And also, as this video is slightly aged now, it doesn't happen to me anymore. I got the HTC on release day in April 2016, perhaps they've patched out the bugs.

[@montexd]

@@Thac0Gamers oh ok that's good then

[@iamruuts3798]

Great video, but one thing you left out is how horrible htc customer service is. There are so many stories out there of vive owners and their horror stories. I was looking into both a few months back and this was the exact reason I went with Oculus. I've had way to many bad experiences with customer service in my 43 years to even consider this nightmare.

[@berryvr7184]

oculus is good, they just need to hurry up with making trackers ( leg trackers ) also he failed to mention that the Rift takes up 2x 3.0 usb slots which is allot even with big motherboards. when the vive only takes up power sockets, which in my opinion is better.

[@berryvr7184]

also a easy way to choose between them, if your poor buy the Rift, if you have money get the vive, or even the vive pro. easy simple, don't need millions of videos on youtube to tell you that shit.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Good point!!!!

[@computethisinfo]

Masumi-Chan right now for me a standard Oculus set is £399 while the standard vive set is £499. So £100 extra isn't a lot of a difference anymore. I'm not sure which I prefer but I'm gravitating to the vive. I've not tested an Oculus before though and had 5 minutes in a vive. Vive pro is stupidly expensive. Not worth it. I think I would prefer the htc controllers mainly fir the trigger button and larger shape. It is great for gun play. Also I get motion sick easily and tired and hot quick so I'm not sure which would be better but I presume the better tracking in the vive would help with dizziness and sickness. Although I don't have much room. Barely enough to go a little more than the still mode.

[@berryvr7184]

besides the controllers for the Oculus i would prefer having a vive. i mainly play vrchat so the oculus controllers for hand gestures makes life easier. also anolog sticks for walking around and turning i prefer. though i have sean 3rd party controllers which work with vive that look allot better than both.

[@computethisinfo]

Masumi-Chan what about the vive knuckles coming out?

[@playstation1331]

thank you for making me appreciate my Rift purchase today, just for Half Life

[@Thac0Gamers]

Such an amazing game, isn't it!!!

[@01_SPACE_C0WB0Y]

The only reason I bought vive over oculus was because of fallout 4 vr. I dont regret it, I'm happy with the vive.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Did you get any other games?? Or you only playing FO4 atm...

[@01_SPACE_C0WB0Y]

@@Thac0Gamers no I got some other games, I got Super Hot, H3Vr, accounting, and I got job simulator. It's just Fallout 4 Vr just convinced me to buy a Vive.

[@Funkibadger]

This was a fantastic video, very helpful! It's really helped me make up my mind which would be better for me, so thank you for being so thorough.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, glad it could be useful to you! :)

[@SimplyBetta]

Thanks for the informative video! Taking everything into consideration :)

[@Thac0Gamers]

NP, hope it's helpful. either choice is a good choice.

[@SimplyBetta]

Thac0 Gamers I’ve decided on the Vive - it’s going to be my Christmas present to myself this year!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Great choice, we all deserve a nice VR system for the holidays! :)

[@pattas2005]

Thanks for this, I've been looking at getting my first VR headset, and your video definitely helped! Subbed!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, awesome!! Hope you can get it soon!

[@pattas2005]

@@Thac0Gamers Thanks!!

[@pattas2005]

​@@Thac0Gamers Just to let you know I got my Rift today, and I'm totally blown away just how awesome it is! No words or videos can describe how amazing and real it actually feels without seeing it for yourself! I had been thinking about getting one for a while, and it was your video that swayed me to go with Oculus. So thanks again for that!

[@Thac0Gamers]

That is so GREAT!!! I'm glad you enjoy it as much as I do!!! Now the real trick is weeding out all of the cash-grab garbage games to find the few really good gems!

[@pattas2005]

@@Thac0Gamers I'm fast becoming addicted lol!

[@volo7]

I wear glasses bc im newrsighted... will i be able to don these headsets without glasses and not see blurry images?

[@Thac0Gamers]

Depends. My daughter and I are both nearsighted. I don't need my glasses but she does.

[@arturo1421]

Man you deserve way more likes on this. One of the best and most down to earth reviews for these two devices. Thanks for video man

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, wow!! Thanks for the comment I appreciate it!!

[@shazbot16]

I know I'm late, but they patched Fallout so that Oculus Touch works with it now.

[@Thac0Gamers]

That is very true.

[@Jallu555]

I really liked this review because you dont talk too fast so I can understand you very well

[@Thac0Gamers]

Glad you liked the review.

[@powermikey0920]

Is the field of view really that different between the oculus and the vive? Really the thing I care about most in terms of a vr headset is the field of view, so if the vive has the best FOV i'll go for it instead.

[@Thac0Gamers]

if you go right from one to the other, you can notice it at first, but you forget about it after a minute or two. If you played one, waited a week, then played the other, i doubt you'd notice the Vive's superior FOV. It is better... but not by *that* much!

[@carolinebolstad5128]

Thank you for the review! Very honest and easy done, not with annoying music and cutscenes! I think I will go for the oculus:)

[@Thac0Gamers]

WHEW!!!! Glad I decided to cut the dubstep loop at the last minute before posting! :)

[@coughypots953]

sold me on oculus

[@Thac0Gamers]

I prefer it slightly to the Vive, but mostly because of cost. The 2 are sooooo close overall! Hope you enjoy the Rift! :)

[@tenchikid80]

Same here :)

[@RockG.o.d]

Hi, did you get the oculus? I really like the idea of the oculus controllers with a different headset. can you use controllers without the headset?

[@RockG.o.d]

thanks for that. I will have to wait for the new steam controllers.

[@Dilirium23]

I've had a vive for a while, and had no problems with crashing. Great to hear about your experiences though. Definitely agree on the controllers, the Vive are claymores vs the Rift's rapiers.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Haha, good analogy!

[@Simmymind360]

Ben Afflek?

[@Thac0Gamers]

I don't see it... but you're the 4th person in my life that's called me that. My wife's brother called me Ben for like the first year after I met him. Bizarre...

[@jed23ify]

what the hell?? I don't see any resemblance,check your eyes mate.

[@dustincory4999]

Nah, it's Ben's brother Casey

[@BruisedASScheeks]

No... your thinking of Den Befflek

[@25RaptorJesus]

No way. That is Mike Rowe

[@ItsDomke]

In terms of mobility, you can get camera tripods to mount your Vive sensors to. It's what I did. The only issue I have with this setup is that if I move them, either to vacuum, or by accident, I need to redo my VR room setup.

[@Thac0Gamers]

yeah, that's a bummer. I just don't have the floor space for that, so mine are wall mounted.

[@los659]

I don’t know why, but you almost look like Thomas Jane and Tobuscus mixed together lol

[@Thac0Gamers]

Weird combo... I'll take it as a compliment i guess. Thanks. :)

[@los659]

Your welcome, I loved your review!

[@_S.H_]

Still in the middle of the video but thanks for indicating the better FOV in Vive, because even though technical specs on paper indicate both headsets have the same FOV, I read the Vive has more FOV. Vive was my first ever VR experience in my life last week and I am already hooked, and I don't recall noticing the edge of the screen at all while I was using it. Nice video by the way. I like your comparison

[@Thac0Gamers]

Oculus is slightly noticeable when you start a game... but after you're in, the FOV loss isn't a factor... for me at least.

[@_S.H_]

I purchased the Oculus Rift this week and was disappointed by the black edges of the screen. It's worse than I thought and I'm finding it hard to get used to. Feels like looking through a binocular. I will most probably return it and go for the Vive, although I will really miss the touch controllers and easy setup.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Sorry to hear that. The Vive is noticeably better. I guess I'm grateful that I can distract myself from the more limited FOV.

[@limhbs4806]

Hi. Nice review. I like your friendly chill style. Keep it up man.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[@TJK10Able]

I'm getting Oculus Quest probably as a fill-in until I get a VR ready PC & Oculus Rift to go with it. Fingers crossed for Echo VR (Lone Echo, Echo Arena & Echo Combat) & Stormland on the quest.

[@Thac0Gamers]

I'm very excited for the Quest! Gonna be cool stuff!

[@jimtrash1020]

im disabled from a stroke so can you play w/ one hand?

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hmm... it would make it difficult on a lot of games. Certain ones would work, but many would be difficult. Perhaps theres a mod community that could assist with some of the games though? I'm not sure. Sorry, both about my lack of a good answer and your disability. Much love, man!!

[@jimtrash1020]

i have 2 foot pedals i use as well, there USB. could i incorporate that w the oculus?/ @@Thac0Gamers

[@Thac0Gamers]

There are several games that use a standard Xbox style controller. If you can use games that would use a regular controller then you would absolutely be able to play these games. The ones that require the touch controllers for moving around I don't know because my brain can't wrap my head around how to articulate that with other types of controls. Likely there is some kind of adapter or something out there for that but I wouldn't be able to say for sure. But certain games that require a controller such as Chronos, Elite dangerous, witchblood, Lucky's Tale, and I think you might even be able to use a controller with Skyrim. So there are options and you can enjoy the VR. I just can't say for sure what percentage of games you would be able to use easily. Hope that helps...

[@jimtrash1020]

@@Thac0Gamers do you need to push buttons on both hand controllers? can you macro controllers to make it usable for 1 handed people? i really want one but i dont wanna get it and find out i cant rly use well..

[@Shendue]

@@jimtrash1020 You could benefit from the Xbox Adaptive Controller. It's precisely made for people that have some kind of disability to allow them to play games. You should look it up, they talk marvels about it and I think it can be set up to work with windows. It would allow you to substitute part of the controller, or all of it, with other devices, like the pedals.

[@quadz4ever410]

How does this guy a Only have 3.1k subs ... great video great review perfect length clear and great info earned my sub

[@Thac0Gamers]

Whoa!! Huge compliment! Thanks man!

[@frankbizzoco1954]

What about Sim games like DCS, which one does those better? I think I might be getting into VR while using a HOTAS?

[@Thac0Gamers]

I use my HOTAS with Elite Dangerous and it's AMAZING!! I play on the Oculus but I'm sure both are equally as amazing! Elite: Dangerous video link here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5eqloeJnNOie5Y The review is on Elite: Dangerous in general, but 70% of the footage shown was while playing in VR.

[@isakh-vangen6964]

this is an amazing review. thank you so mush for making this video. it was truly a good review; i`m gonna go for the Htc. Thank you

[@Thac0Gamers]

Wow, glad I could help. Hope you enjoy your new Vive!!!

[@jpg334]

Thanks this video sold me on the Oculus

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hope you love it as much as I do!

[@jysko8545]

Great review. Thanks for the recomendation.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Glad it could be of use to you!

[@ocindayo]

i've only tried PSVR motion controls and the Vive controllers, soooooooo

[@Thac0Gamers]

...get a rift!!! Then you'll have tried them all!

[@Knight11692]

According to the specs sheet, both headsets are 1080 x 1,200-pixel resolution for each eye. The total resolution comes to 2,160 x 1,200, with 90Hz refresh rates. Both headsets also offer a 110-degree field of view (FOV). With that being said my question is how is one more clear than the other, and how are you able to get a bigger FOV when all of the specs are the same?

[@Thac0Gamers]

2 things... I think Rift measures FOV horizontally, where Vive measures diagonally, thus making the Vive FOV actually much better. Second... the lenses make a difference. I can't explain why, but the Rifts handling of the god rays makes it foggy and can muddy up the image. The Vive (not really better, but different) had like circles... can be just as annoying but it doesn't affect the entire image. Either way... the newer headsets are all better than these... so I'd look into the Rift S, Quest, or the soon-to-be Valve Index.

[@Knight11692]

@@Thac0Gamers I can tell you from experience the rift S is not better then either one of them. The native resolution is better but it's a lot darker and I honestly would not recommend it. I've messed around with these headsets for a while and the first time I've ever had a really bad experience in the vr is when I used the rift S. This is just my opinion but I want to put that out there.

[@mat_name_whatever]

This seems to be highly dependent on the personal experience - steamvr never crashed on me, while the oculus was a nightmare to set up, not recognizing usbports as 3.0, not seeing controllers are common problem. The vive was batteries included plug and play, the oculus was extension cords, usb troubles and error codes. Highly recommend the vive but that may also be as personal as with this guy here and the oculus is likely also personal.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Totally fair! I agree 100% And honestly... I love my Vive!! It not fogging up is a huge plus for the vive as well. That's my main gripe with Oculus.

[@mat_name_whatever]

@@Thac0Gamers oh hey thanks for your appreciative reply :) May I ask what your first one was?

[@Thac0Gamers]

I owned the vive first. I got it a week or so after its release.

[@Ul_Nok]

Thank you for this great comparison video. Few videos or even articles have been updated since prices drop, and it's good to have a COMPLETE review and comparison of each one in 2018. I think this video would still be relevant for one or two years, because even with the new coming GPU gen, we won't be able to run games on 2*4k screen at 90fps... or it would be a combined PC at 3000-5000$. So presents versions of the rift and the vive (the pro version is juste too expensive for a normal person) have still some times before being replaced.

[@Thac0Gamers]

When I first posted this I got comments like "there are 1000s of rift vs. vive videos. do you really think you have anything to say that everyone else hasn't already said?". Made me worry that I was wasting my time. The outpouring of "great video!" comments from everyone else has been amazing!! And I think the like/dislike speaks for itself! Thanks for your comment, it's encouraging! :)

[@BigQSneaks]

I will have to try this myself, I was about to get a vive until I went to a Microsoft store and they had vive and oculus there and I tried oculus first then was going to put vive on and after all the hype it was getting and everyone was saying it was way better than oculus I was excited but when I put it on it was not as good everyone said it was the resolution and pixels seen where very bad I felt like I was using the ps4 vr or the dk2 and the field of view wasn't as good either I guess since the brand names or for most people it was the only one they have had or tried it was getting good things about it, I'm hoping when I try this that it will be better than oculus than I would get one. Also Vive Really needs to lower there price on there headset really what your buying it for is for the name its not better in graphics or resolution, I would say there tracking is better by far but if this vive pro is the same or even better than oculus then I wouldn't mind it being $600.

[@katto1937]

Question Studios Please learn to use and apply something called grammar. The HTC Vive that you tried was clearly not in the correct position. The one thing that everyone knows is the HTC Vive looks better. It may not have AS good controllers (I like the touch pass on the Vive more, but that's your opinion) but it's widely known the Vive is better graphics wise.

[@katto1937]

The Vive is not even that expensive. Especially is you buy a used one for around £300

[@janwurst7410]

Im about to buy my first VR Headset, ive watched quite alot Reviews and Videos about both Systems and you are the first who say vive has better Graphics. So far everbody told me Rift got slithly clearer Grahpics since both have same Resolustion but the slightly bigger FOV on the Vive makes the graphics little Worse. Have not tested myself but it makes Sense

[@Gwazi]

Big Q guess what buddy, vive and oculus headsets have the exact same resolution, unless we are talking about the vive pro. that has the best resolution

[@Gwazi]

Jan Wurst don’t know if you’ve bought it yet, but what i would do is go to something called a vr arcade. look it up. the one near me uses vives and they are amazing. what you should do is go to one that has vives and to ones that have oculus rifts. then you can decide

[@sammytim3520]

How about make a project by mixing the components together to make a new vr thing headset

[@Thac0Gamers]

If I did it there would be a hefty amount of coat hangers and duct tape involved...

[@sojourner99]

I just bought the Rift a week ago and among many reasons it's the most amazing gaming experience I have had in my 30 years of gaming, largely due to one game: Lone Echo

[@Thac0Gamers]

I need to play that, still haven't yet... heard soooooooooo many good things!

[@hardassponge9018]

The Pupil distance slider on the rift is a push button, push it in and slide it and its not clunky

[@Thac0Gamers]

Yeah, a lot of people have pointed that out to me. I'm dumb....

[@eduardofreitas8336]

is it possible to play skyrim vr with the oculus rift?

[@CrazyMurdock77]

Skyrim VR is a PSVR game, so you can't play it on Vive, Rift or Windows MR.

[@eduardofreitas8336]

Woow that sucks royal ass. No plans for a pc version?

[@Thac0Gamers]

Skyrim VR is on PSVR exclusively ATM. Fallout 4 is on Vive exclusively. Bethesda has hinted that the 2 will move to the other platform at a later date. Don't expect either to end up on Oculus though, because Bethesda hates Zuckerburg.

[@eduardofreitas8336]

As Long as we can play it on another solution, it`s at least ok. I find exclusivity between Occulus and Vive so stupid... The only real difference between them are the controllers.

[@singularitybound]

Skyrim VR for PC is about to release lol..it was known even at this time.

[@mr.mantis2159]

Nice comparison video, I will probably end up choosing the Rift. Also I like how you did the end of the video slightly derpy in a way but not too much. You just earned another subscriber. Well done.

[@rowanlajoie2996]

That intro tho!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Oh no, is it bad... should I not use it anymore??

[@alisonkerr9239]

Thank you for the review I was going to buy the oculus rift but so many people were saying how great the HTC is. Now because of you I know what one to choose

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hope you love it as much as I do!!

[@83glxvert]

I thought the channel was called "tacos gaming" but that you just chose to spell it different for fun. I was wrong and it made me sad. Now I want tacos.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Sorry to disappoint. :( Well, off to Thac0 Bell for some dinner! :)

[@werecow68]

Very nice contrast between the two systems. Also great hat, go Tigers!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Go Tigers... I guess... what a bad season this year! lol

[@werecow68]

Sure hope we can get out of the basement at least

[@JoeDontYaKnow87]

Dude the Oculus is legit

[@Thac0Gamers]

ikr!!!!

[@rjsmc]

You really answered a multitude of my questions I'm dropping a like much love

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey, thanks a lot. Glad the video was useful!

[@mastersprogram]

Thank you so much for this review This was really helpful especially for Games I was really worried that my favorite games were only for HTC Vive which would have made me sad cuz I hear it's not that great when you said pretty much any game can be played in Oculus I got so much relief and Joy can't wait to ask my Mom for the Oculus Rift for Christmas Um.... Yeah I asked my Mom and no Oculus Rift....if you Think I'm joking and oh she actually said yes haha Nope 😫😓

[@Thac0Gamers]

Glad I could help! Hope you have a very Merry & VRy Christmas! :)

[@Thac0Gamers]

Just read your edit... bummer. :( Maybe start a GoFundMe!!! Or start raking & mowing lawns and/or shoveling snow!!! You'll get there in no time!

[@mastersprogram]

@@Thac0Gamers Yeah probably who knows Thanks again anyway :D

[@sinfuldark8131]

Loved the review man. Honestly really helpful with my decision on which to buy. 10/10 review Loved it.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Thanks!! Glad I could be of assistance!

[@bliglum]

Hate that they went with the touchpads for the Vive.. Seems like they only went with them to stay consistant with the awful Steam controller which seemed designed more for browsing the Steam store to buy crappy games, than actually playing said games.. The Oculus' proper analog control was a major contributor for my going with Rift. Well, that and the price.

[@minethink1442]

Best comparison, really honest, thanks.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Wow, thanks! That's very appreciated!

[@x_Paine_x]

I own both headsets I'd really recommend you look at the deluxe audio strap for the Vive it really brings it up the oculus's comfort and in my opinion surpasses it, as for the Rift i find it has harsher godrays, fishbowl warping/distortion, poor stereo overlap resulting in less 3d depth, boxy FOV which lacks mainly Vertical and some Horizontal FOV and a dim washed out screen which has awful black levels... on the controllers, The touch controllers feel nice and offer better hand presence but the hand pose is almost identical on both rift and vive, IMO its more about where the hand is modeled in game. I can see where sticks have an advantage but also feel old fashioned and out of place in VR, touch pads are far more versatile and current, also the trigger feels cheap compared to Vive and is not two stage, the handle part is too small so tool/gun presence is inferior also the haptic feedback is really weak also I found close interaction occlusion to be worse, So to say touch controllers are flat out better is wrong they both have their strong points IMO.

[@Thac0Gamers]

I agree with the comments about the headsets, but disagree about the controllers. The touchpads are okay for menus (haptics are nice too), but for locomotion they are inferior to the thumbsticks. And the grip buttons on the vive controllers are just awkward. I'm okay with them but I always have to show people playing "no, you reload here.... use your middle or ring finger.... no..... the button is here on the other side of the controller." Also, the touch controllers can double very nicely as an actual controller for 3rd person games.

[@MrGarkin]

Ergonomics, weight, sticks, triggers. IDK wth are u talking about, Oculus owns. And Oculus Touch is two generations ahead of Vive due to touch sensor, but it needs app support to shine.

[@Mr.Honest247]

Cmdr Paine-VR Bro, the touch controllers are way better because you can actually use your fingers unlike the Vive where it's just a simple "grab" button with a cheap and dated animation. It should be obvious, the Vive is dated technology when it comes to its controllers and it's widely known. You sound like your defending the Vive because you're a fan of the Vive and being a bit biased. The Oculus has better and more advanced controller technology so how can it be worse? That makes no sense.

[@TheOriginalNCDV]

Thac0 Gamers I think it depends if you come from a gamepad-playing background. I've always hated thumbsticks for FPS games, never bought a XB or PS console because of it. The trackpad on the other hand has no annoying spring resistance and is effortless to glide a finger on it. I use it very successfully for locomotion, it feels natural to me. Want to stop? Lift your finger.

[@w33b3l]

Fallout 4 works good with the Oculus now BTW. They updated it with full support, although steam doesn't tell you that (still says HTC on the steam page for it only). Oculus controllers native in game now and everything. Been playing it with the Oculus no issue as if the game was meant to be played with it.

[@Thac0Gamers]

good to know!

[@davidmthekidd]

Perfect! I love my Oculus, it is my favorite gadget.

[@Thac0Gamers]

Mine as well!!! :)

[@nicolasortiz8568]

@@Thac0Gamers you're my favorite gadget

[@ItsJustFeel]

Liked mainly because the Joker wallpaper.. and the good info! Appreciated!

[@Thac0Gamers]

Hey thanks, funny thing is I just had a comment a week or so ago saying it was cringe!!! Thanks for commenting. :)