Sorry my last comment was so long, but just wanted to say thank you. Really enjoyed this trip down memory lane. The format wars ended up being a somewhat important thing in my childhood. (When we got VHS, we were at the video store so much, that one day they wrote our family's name on a paper star and put it up with a bunch of others as part of their video renter Hall of Fame. We came a long way from a video rentals being an exciting birthday treat. Of course, the fact that we didn't have cable until 1994 probably had something to do with it.)
@tjames21237 жыл бұрын
I have a U-Matic "liberated" from an unnamed Hollywood studio in the late 80s when they went to digital mastering. If you own a VHS, CED or Beta movie manufactured in the early 80s that came from a company that uses a mountaintop for a logo, the master was probably created on this U-Matic.
@RyanSellman17 жыл бұрын
T James Paramount Pictures?
@artistwithouttalent7 жыл бұрын
T James In the same way that a printer was liberated from Initech in _Office Space_ ?
@TheLazurus8 жыл бұрын
You could say Eraser....got ERASED. I'll see myself out.
@sallyvillarreal42948 жыл бұрын
JJ Davis -Hey! You stole my bad joke! 😜
@TheLazurus8 жыл бұрын
That's the plan mwhahaha
@mix3k8184 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a BFDI reference for a second
@sunswift Жыл бұрын
🥁🥁
@scottstrang15835 жыл бұрын
Whats funny is that a guy driving a cab would not have been able to afford a VCR back then particularly a betamax.
@tjames21237 жыл бұрын
I remember personally watching a side-by-side display in a video store's front window in the early 80s. There was two identical TVs, configured with the same picture settings, both showing Superman II. One was on Beta, one was on VHS. The kick was that you didn't know which was which until you walked in the store. We looked at them and unanimously agreed that the one on the right had better color depth and less scan lines. We went in the store and lifted the box off the player and were stunned to see that it was the Betamax that looked better. My dad, being the smart fiscal player that he was, opted for the cheaper VHS because he knew that Beta was losing the format war. We had that JVC deck for around ten years before one of the heads went bad. We also had a CED Videodisc player and later a Pioneer laserdisc player. My dad was what you would an early adopter. We also had a high resolution "widescreen" Zenith model in the mid-80s (which isn't as impressive as it sounds- it was over 1,000 bucks in 1985 money, weighed about as much, and was closer to a 5:3 ratio than a 16:9.
@chadwik40003 жыл бұрын
awesome line " in a digital world I want a analog girl "
@memphischeshier2767 Жыл бұрын
the song he used is analog man by joe walsh. it is a good song.
@bartsimpson837 жыл бұрын
It seems like CEDs were an idea that should have worked if only they'd taken an extra year or so to work out the kinks in the technology (like finding a way to coat the discs so they'd at least be scratch resistant. I can't believe it took until Blu Ray for that to happen).
@danielj.glowny41083 жыл бұрын
The CEDs were coated ,but the records did not scratch because they were protected in the caddy , unless someone fooled with the caddy(not easy) and took the record out.The whole problem was the skipping and that had nothing to due to scratching.And the funny thing was that RCA had Laserdisc Payers for sale under the RCA label, CED killed RCA and was sold to GE and GE sold off the various department off.
@JL-sm6cg2 жыл бұрын
Actually, CEDs died because it was supposed to have been out at least three years before it was. By the time it did get introduced, VCRs were cheap enough to be an alternative.
@jameslaidler42598 жыл бұрын
The Japanese VHD really blows my mind. Similar to the CED, though slightly better, AND had 3D support with a special pair of plug in glasses with existing CRT TVs. Crazy no?
@danielj.glowny41083 жыл бұрын
I have good number of those 3D Films on DVD and the shutter glasses that you use with a CRT TV
@CJODell124 жыл бұрын
11:53. (whiny voice) "I don't want to get up to flip the disc!" XD.
@DanTheMan1985ful3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh I LOVE SEEING THOSE BANDS OF COLOR ON THOSE DISCS.
@Otokichi7867 жыл бұрын
One unspoken advantage that Laserdisc STILL has over DVD is...No Copy Protection AND No Region Barriers! In theory, I could have bought a Laserdisc from Asia or Europe as desired. Although there are more language options with DVD, you need a "Region Less/Free" player to play an Indie European/Asian film that hasn't been officially imported. (As with CD, there are some media that hasn't gotten encoded--and some "regional appeal-only never will!) Plus, my (very few) "Northern Exposure" Laserdiscs haven't been "edited for more commercials" AND have the original soundtrack! Oh well, digital media of this sort is headed for the "K/T boundary" with streaming video and Cloud services. And now back to "Seoul Mates," where Maurice Minnifield finds he has a Korean family, Holling sings a killer "Ave Maria" acapella, and Dr. Fleischman tries to trim a Christmas tree.;)
@honestguy77647 ай бұрын
Not really, if you was american your whole set was set to ntsc doamin, few if any ld player in the usa were multistandard. that was backin that time a way of regional locking. If you was a PAL guy, same thing, Only few and expensive top of the line models were multistandard an the tv should be multistandard too….
@robfriedrich28226 жыл бұрын
In Europe there was also Video 2000. Lost the war, because they didn't work properly and there were few prerecorded tapes.
@sallyvillarreal42948 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1979. I only have the fuzziest memories of buying our Betamax around 1984. But I do remember being excited about recording things. And then being very frustrated about finding pre-recorded movies. Then I have lots more frustrating "when I was your age" memories about going to video stores and not being able to find Betamax. Especially in kids titles. In fact, I remember what I think was my sixth birthday. (1985) We had some family friends come over for my birthday party. After all the cake and gifts and stuff, my parents showed me another surprise. They had rented Disney's Robin Hood. Finding the format was hard enough that renting a movie for our beta was a special treat, rather than a regular thing. I think it was Christmas 1986, or possibly 1987, when our family finally got VHS. We even rented a couple of movies from the video store in VHS before mom had opened her gift. I remember dad telling me to tell my mom that they had all the movies in Beta now. I think she picked out her own movie. ( this was back when you gave the box to the clerk, and then they gave you the tape from behind the counter.) I don't know if she didn't noticed the difference and tape size, or played dumb. Seeing the Oddity Archive makes me regret getting rid of all the Betamax tapes. I'm not sure if I was in high school or college when my parents finally bit the bullet and did it. They hung onto them for a long time, after the Betamax itself had broken. We didn't have any pre-recorded tapes. Only stuff we have recorded. We gave them to the Goodwill. They said they didn't have any use for the tapes, but they would recycle them free of charge. My dad defends his decision to buy a Betamax to this day. He says he did lots of research, it's better quality and it is the same format used in TV studios. I'm wondering what you think? If you had been in the market for a VCR in 1984, which do you think you would have bought? Would you have seen the writing on the wall for the format wars by that time?
@RyanSellman17 жыл бұрын
Sally Villarreal I would've bought VHS because it would've been cheaper.
@Kylefassbinderful Жыл бұрын
Recording time would have made the decision for me relatively quick. By 1984 it was obvious which format was on top. I'm a huge Sony fan but telling me that I can only have a 4% increase in resolution by using the slower Beta/1 speed at 1 hour per tape is a bit of a losing argument. And let's be real here, you had to have a decent sized Trinitron, composite hookup, and a fresh tape to get those measly extra 10 lines of picture. 10 lines that you wouldn't have noticed anyways. Now in terms of old Sony video formats I was a fan of Video8 and Hi8. Small tapes with good resolution and great sound. It would've been great to collect movies on those small little tapes. VHS-C was always a joke to me.
@WAQWBrentwood7 жыл бұрын
I had a U Matic and A black & white video camera in the 80s! Amazing how now I can record HD videos with my $200 phone today!
@frazzleface7532 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that Stonycreek Farm is still going strong and the pumpkin patch has evolved into a yearly festival. Tower Oldsmobile of Chicago was latterly a Cadillac dealer up to c.2011, working out of the same 1233 N Wells premises - an art deco style garage. Building is still there as of writing, though is now a high end supermarket. That whole area has been progressively gentrified.
@imrustyokay8 жыл бұрын
Now without muffled audio and the quality change that would make you jump a bit
@BasedAri8 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness.
@robfriedrich28226 жыл бұрын
10:52 I know, that before DVD, it was hard to establish prerecorded media without recording option. When records were introduced, there were no recordable media, but in the time, they introduced Disco Vision & co, there was the video tape recorder. CD didn't fail, for this was a better, more versatile replacement for records and also for prerecorded MusiCassettes and DVD didn't fail, because it was also introduced as computer storage media, so much computers were equipped with a DVD drive and so one had the opportunity to watch movies on the computer. Another factor, that Disco Vision failed: You couldn't rent media, had to buy, was very, very expensive. DVDs were mend to replace prerecorded VHS, so they were available to rent.
@damnmyusernameisgone8 жыл бұрын
I worked at my county's Department of Education television station in the late 90s and they were still using umatic (though slowly transitioning to BetaCam, Betamax's pro-grade sibling). Umatic was popular at the time with television station engineering departments because the large VCRs were easy to service and get parts for.
@erickpaolosantos68254 жыл бұрын
An acoustic guitar version of john williams star wars theme
@michaelturner4457 Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK I think VHS won over Beta, because we could rent a VHS machine, while Beta could only be bought. This was early 80s and these things were expensive.
@memphischeshier2767 Жыл бұрын
you can actually put an blame of the increased costs of VHS and Betamax during the late 70's and early 80's onto Phillips V-2000 system as an last ditch attempt to allow this format to become more successful by convincing Europe to increase prices of Japanese's VCRs to try to gain market share, it didn't work.
@ChrisKewl8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this back in your list, I know I was one of the complainers but I am glad you listened. :)
8 жыл бұрын
You should claim fair use on these copyright claims!
@soonerterp8 жыл бұрын
+André Campana Merétika Seconded.
@itzspencerr14038 жыл бұрын
#WTFU
@SnabbKassa3 жыл бұрын
Can't resist pointing out that we were shooting home movies in our city in 1888
@astromotive60475 жыл бұрын
What's with Sony and their habit of creating proprietary formats that just annoy and anger the consumer? First Betamax, then the Memory Stick, and then the Infamous PS Vita memory cards. I bet the one reason why the Blu-Ray format was successful was because they finally caved in and shared the tech with other companies like how JVC did with VHS.
@JL-sm6cg2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing a commercial I faintly af remember from when I was a toddler. The Wrapples commercial. I recall this creepy commercial with clowns making carmel apples somehow.
@hdofu5 жыл бұрын
thinking back to all the programing reruns of 70s programing off of vhs I watched as a kid I have to know, "What the hell was the obsession with carpeting in the 70s?"
@robfriedrich28224 жыл бұрын
Format War between 45 rpm and 33 rpm
@Bort_867 жыл бұрын
at least in Europe, there was also the VCR- and later the Video 2000-format.
@mattwo77 жыл бұрын
Strange I grew up in the 90s and I strictly recall VHS being the standard home video format, with Laserdisc being significantly more niche. (I mean my local Library had laserdisk but it also had _Zork Grand Inquisitor_ in the mid 2000s and probably still has it today) ... Great game btw, sadly the only Zork title I ever played though.
@clyth414 жыл бұрын
Just one thing about laserdisc, it's not laser rot because the laser is not rotting, its disc rot because the disk glue is rotting
@arnoutpriamos63307 жыл бұрын
Ive touched a umatic when watching my introduction video for mcdonalds employees in 2005 ... it was still in use...
@robfriedrich28223 жыл бұрын
Format War between cylinder and flat record or between vertical and horizontal cut or between the 33 rpm album disc and the small 45 rpm with changer or between tape and wire or record and Tefifon phono tape...
@MikeDest6 жыл бұрын
I always heard VHS won out in part to the adult industry deciding on VHS over Beta.
@ryankelly3694 жыл бұрын
That was part of it, but not the only part. Sony insisted on a hardware monopoly. The only betamax players you could get were Sony-manufactured. Victor Company of Japan (JVC), which fronted most of the money and manpower for VHS development, did not enforce such a hardware monopoly. Lots of manufacturers were able to make VHS machines. An apt comparison is the difference between Macintosh computers (an Apple-enforced hardware monopoly) and IBM-compatible PCs (no hardware monopoly enforced by IBM or Microsoft).
@adrienfourniercom7 жыл бұрын
BetaMax were a professional format, it was used by TV until the mid 2000. I've got mine from a TV studio where they through them in the bin.
@DFX4509B6 жыл бұрын
Nope, that's Betacam, a related but completely different format. Betamax did see brief prosumer/semi-pro usage as ED-Beta though.
@jamesm903 жыл бұрын
adrienfourniercom Betacam was the broadcast format Betamax was purely domestic. At a resolution of 250 lines it could not handle the bandwidth required to record broadcast quality , which required 3 times the 250 lines resolution for Standard Def.
@JL-sm6cg2 жыл бұрын
Also, as I may have noted in the CED episode, the early machines practically grinded the disc to a halt, which didn't help matters much with the quality. The later ones, like the one you have, brought the disc to a complete stop before moving the disc up to be allowed to be removed.
@diddles20088 жыл бұрын
It won for 2 reasons - due to being able to be protected, the movie industry allowed movies to be used on VHS. The second was the porn industry adopted it
@Brillemeister3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Macrovision works on Beta as well.
@LeeONardo6 жыл бұрын
Better Episode 7 than the one that was in cinemas.
@Kurzov4 жыл бұрын
Got 'em.
@Fuzy2K8 жыл бұрын
YOU RESTORED THE MUSIC IN THE CREDITS! :D Strangely enough, I was thinking about this episode earlier today for some reason. Huh.
@scottstrang15835 жыл бұрын
There was a tV station here in town that would use old 20 min umatic cassettes over and over for ENG. It made their footage look terrible.
@TheBronxBunnyMan6 жыл бұрын
Barely related, but does anyone remember the "Joe Walsh for President" shirt that came with some CD copies of "Analog Man"? I still have mine but my dad found it and took it back.
@robfriedrich28224 жыл бұрын
CED had more chances than TED but couldn't win.
@MacinMindSoftware6 жыл бұрын
13:11 "Around $25". Immediately thought you had to see the Sunsetter commercial with the dub-in price. I never could read his lips to figure-out the previous price.
@MaximRecoil6 жыл бұрын
If you want the "filmic" look that you mentioned at 10:58, you're not going to get it from ancient home video formats. You need Blu-ray and an HD display, preferably a good HD projector, which is practically indistinguishable from watching a 35mm film print in a theater (assuming it is a good transfer of a shot-on-film movie). The 35mm film that nearly all movies were shot on until recently, is an extremely high-quality format, light years beyond LaserDisc, and as such, LaserDisc can only capture a very small percentage of the film's information. 35mm negatives are about equivalent to 4K digital resolution, and 35mm film prints which were shown in theaters are about equivalent to 2K / 1080p (the prints have less information than the negative due to a couple/few generations of loss, but they are still very high quality). Even a good DVD transfer has far more of a filmic look than LaserDisc. At least with the DVD transfer you can actually clearly see the film grain, assuming you're using a high quality connection (at least component) and a high quality display (at least a 31 kHz CRT combined with a progressive-scan DVD player). I can understand someone liking the look of analog NTSC video, but it is not even remotely filmic looking.
@MaximRecoil2 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleDoesEvil What ails you? Anyway?
@honestguy77647 ай бұрын
I get what you mean. Had a 1000+ lds collection, and watch a good ntsc laserdis was a joy to your eyes
@mattwo77 жыл бұрын
I just checked Google Maps and Stonycreek Farm is still around lol
@neilforbes4167 жыл бұрын
Brands marketing Beta: Sony, Sanyo, Toshiba(Japan's subsidiary of EMI)Brands marketing VHS: Panasonic, JVC-Nivico, AWA/Thorn(Australian/British), Philips(shit quality even after their N1500 & N1700 were abandoned).
@lackedpuppet90227 жыл бұрын
I love Bing Crosby.
@alanpiaskowski93626 жыл бұрын
I have the same pioneer DVD player !
@generalofg33773 жыл бұрын
Divx was the original DRM
@wadmodderschalton57632 жыл бұрын
Max Headroom but it's a low-budget episode. (16:11)
@Washing954 жыл бұрын
2:17 is it me or can you guys detect wow At 2:20
@robfriedrich28224 жыл бұрын
Carefully thinking about some tones
@frankcabanski94093 жыл бұрын
What's this? What's this!? Christ nowhere to be found. The holiday is Christ-mas, but Christ nowhere around.
@JunkerDC7 жыл бұрын
I remember DIVX was only in pan and scan and Bill from the Digital Bits hated Divx a lot
@MORPHOSYS7 жыл бұрын
thE BeATLES
@cpschafer15 жыл бұрын
What source did you use for the 2 music videos, "We Built this City" and "The Salt In My Tears"?
@neilforbes4167 жыл бұрын
OA, you've made the same mistake! Beta format VCRs first appeared in 1972! I remember seeing a stand-alone Beta VCR on display(but not for sale) at a Hi-Fi shop in Newcastle, NSW Australia in 1972. It was pointless to sell them as the official launch of colour TV here was still a few years away at that time and colour TV sets, though in production, hadn't been released onto the public market until mid-1974 in time for first test broadcasts
@C1NDR0N38 жыл бұрын
what did that beatles maxwells silber hammer footage you used during the ced bit come from
@contentcreatorman8 жыл бұрын
A CED copy of the Beatles' 1970 film Let It Be.
@C1NDR0N37 жыл бұрын
Cataxx ah, its been awhile since I viewed that film, they should re release it sometime
@tHeWasTeDYouTh7 жыл бұрын
you ever heard of Muse LD?? it was a HD Laserdisc released in Japan been looking for one but it is impossible to get one fucking A also there was another format called V2000(or VCC) it was a tape format made by Philips that had more quality than Betamax and more recording time than VHS but it was only released in Europe and Brazil and it is also impossible to find
@octaviabannon-clark99958 жыл бұрын
all of these are great, shame about the DMCAs though
@janelota88975 жыл бұрын
the likes and dislikes are now the same as the original upload
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've already seen this...
@R0ck4x37 жыл бұрын
hmmm, quite the mystery that is XP
@nicholsjoshua157 жыл бұрын
Oh Ben, I also hate Alanis Morissette. She thinks herself some great musical poet, really all of her music sounds like some teenage girl garage band.
@Z3R0FiR37 жыл бұрын
CEDs look alot like bigger versions Sony's UMDs... maybe Sony got the idea for UMDs from CEDs?
@robfriedrich28226 жыл бұрын
15:28 your player reacts like a baby, what doesn't like the food.
@robfriedrich28224 жыл бұрын
12:48 taking movie's title literal?
@overdriven777 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for joe walsh
@trongtanvuinstaarchivebonu41275 жыл бұрын
9:45 SNL!
@delabarcel8 жыл бұрын
10:36 song name?
@redlion5174 жыл бұрын
Archive Wars 1. The Phantom Headroom 2. Attack of the EAS 3. Revenge of the Signoffs 4. A New Local TV Special 5. The EXXXtasy Strikes Back 6. Return of the Republicans 7. The Formats Awaken 8. The Last Hotline 9. The Rise of Halloween
@pswitch95538 жыл бұрын
2:11 Noobs: GTA V!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111
@EKT_Enthusiast8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Star Wars theme
@zmbdog7 жыл бұрын
You forgot a major reason VHS won over Beta: porn. Adult companies released titles on VHS but not Beta (Sony wouldn't allow it) and that alone sold a huge number of VCRs. VHS probably would've won anyhow due to its price BUT if porn manufacturers favored Beta and Sony allowed it? Beta would've taken huge leap over VHS. I think the most likely outcome afterward would've been both formats surviving until DVD, with VHS gaining ground over the years as the cheaper alternative and probably surpassing Beta by the late 80s or early 90s.
@honestguy77647 ай бұрын
not true, at least here in europe, hardcorefilms were releasesd in beta
@zmbdog7 ай бұрын
@@honestguy7764 It's the U.S. market that makes or breaks a format. The porn industry is in Van Nuys, CA and they all released their titles exclusively on VHS. Bootlegs though can be found on any format.
@neilforbes4167 жыл бұрын
Wrong again! Philips had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with VHS! Matsushita(with their National, Panasonic, Technics and their JVC-Nivico brands) were the prime developers of VHS in 1975/6(market release in 1976). Philips had its woefully crappy VCR N1500 and N1700 formats which mangled their tapes because of one reel being on top of the other - TOTAL SHIT!
@Tornado19947 жыл бұрын
Correct. JVC was in charge and supervised development of VHS in the early 1970s. And your right, Philips SUCKS horribly. Awful,Awful poor quality shit.
@neilforbes4167 жыл бұрын
I have a long-standing bias against Philips because, growing up, our family TV set(in the black & white days before 1975) was a Philips and it was ALWAYS malfunctioning. Rarely did a week go by when one thing or another would fail in the set. Initially we had a choice of brands to evaluate, a PYE, Healing(one of EMI's brands) and the Philips. I'd have hoped my parents would've chosen the Healing set, it would've given trouble-free viewing for at least into the age of colour. When colour TV did arrive, I'd saved up and bought the family colour set, a HMV Braddon(18" screen and had UHF tuning though the UHF band wasn't yet being used). I was determined NEVER to buy a Philips set because of the bad memories of that old set we had.
@Greedyselfish978 жыл бұрын
#WTFU?
@plerpplerp55996 жыл бұрын
😁👏
@kennethmidtskogen78867 жыл бұрын
vhs won becouse the porn industry supported it
@ArchiveofAwesomeness18864 жыл бұрын
I want the original unaltered versions of some of your videos too as the Star Wars films too