OFFICIAL UPDATE v64 All Changes - Lethal Company

[@fastral7769]

Worms not killing Old Birds is the worst change in this update. Zeekerss has broken an immutable law of Lethal Company. Seriously, if you have the skill to do it, you deserve a reward.

[@lamegamertime]

It's a bug; they're supposed to die

[@noahmcdonald2993]

Killing old bird with worm compared to giant, it's a lot easier in contrast. Old birds being slow, paired with safety of staying close, makes baiting easier. Sure it defies physics, but it isn't too risky to do casually.

[@StaccatoFry]

It's a lore fix. Probably.

[@Borapaws]

personally i think it'd be way cooler if when the worm was in midair the old bird tore through the worm and blew a hole in it to fly back down killing the worm

[@Jackspladt]

Is there something I’m missing with this? Because, at least in my experience with the game I’ve never really cared about this feature. Most moons with a decent old birds chance don’t commonly have earth leviathans (artifice, embrion, titan sometimes) so it’s not really mattered. killing an old bird with a worm isn’t really that skilled, old birds are slow compared to most outdoor monsters so it’s a lot easier to lure them. I wouldn’t really say that’s breaking a law of lethal company. Killing most things in lethal company doesn’t give a reward. For example, most enemies drop nothing when they die. There is no reason to kill a forest giant, dog, thumper, spider, ect other than to get it out of your way. But this applies to all entities

[@rottenpizza7403]

Flask no longer conductive my beloved. Tissue roll still being conductive on top of taking up entire screen is just hilarious

[@fastral7769]

There’s a bug to lower the toilet paper and make the screen visible at the top. With an item in hand, crouch, press the sprint key, and then sprint. It works inconsistently, but may be worth investigating. Try it multiple times if it doesn’t work.

[@CraterZzz]

The soccer ball is also conductive

[@cobaltviper]

@@fastral7769 it's not worth it to be this optimal about lethal company. It kind of defeats the purpose actually.

[@ilikesnow8146]

@@cobaltviperfor some people it’s worth it

[@morj5184]

​@@cobaltviperTo you.

[@adamramirez6562]

Zeekers thought, "I want the game to be a bit more scary but any new thing gets easily boring, if only there was something that always gets people to jump" Horribly loud National Emergency Broadcast:

[@o2-zone124]

YEAH WELL IT IS A FUCKING METEOR SHOWER I THINK A EMERGENCY IS IN ORDER CAN YOU HEAR ME OVER IT!

[@juicemanjimbo]

very interesting, informative, transformative, swag, epic, cool, agreeable, inspiring, creative, and most importantly, good.

[@scootyman_]

The looking-down trick for coilheads is definitely just a side effect of the increased vertical camera reach and will probably be changed

[@ruub9971]

It existed before the camera change

[@STIMULAT10N]

Zeekers watching this belike, It is now incredibly hard to trap coils in mansion interiors: Nice it worked You can now look directly down to make it impossible for coils to kill you: :O

[@lizardhero]

What's your profile pic?

[@SmegwardProductions]

​@@lizardhero the lonely wizard from inscription

[@lizardhero]

@@SmegwardProductions thanks :)

[@SmegwardProductions]

@@lizardhero no problem

[@uuabbit]

you can access your belt bag by looking down at it on your waist, no need to scroll to it in your inventory to open it

[@literatemax]

I wish you could look down at it and press Q to put the tool you're holding into it

[@Entokia]

Ah yes, the counter to coilhead Being depresssed

[@JustinWang-j8u]

zeekers really be hating on high quota lol looks like art nerf is staying, can't wait for liquidation tho

[@call_me_bread]

@@JustinWang-j8u if it ever comes out

[@athena-love]

@@call_me_bread it's planned to this year

[@ChunnkY_YT]

@@athena-love source?

[@texticks]

@@ChunnkY_YT they made it up

[@athena-love]

@@ChunnkY_YT the wiki. obv that isn't as reliable as zeekers saying it

[@SaucySausageForkman-wp3hd]

In the discord it was confirmed that old birds not doing to worms is a bug. Something to do with unkillable flags. Idk

[@DarlingsOrgans]

THANK GOD

[@jacobrutzke691]

​@@DarlingsOrganswas it really that important

[@JimLStone]

Some of the worst Old Bird changes. If you can manage to get a worm to eat an Old Bird you deserve to have it removed, and it'd have been real funny to ride on top of Old Birds

[@itzwaluigitime8678]

Apparently it caused some form of horrible bug

[@FoundedScreenLady]

​@itzwaluigitime8678 I don't know all of them, but one of them causes them to never use their sky pathfinding at all. Ever. Basically they couldn't fly anymore even if nobody was on top of them.

[@itzwaluigitime8678]

@@FoundedScreenLady that's shtoopid

[@FoundedScreenLady]

@@itzwaluigitime8678 That's coding for ya. Hopefully he fixes it with v65/v70 though.

[@itzwaluigitime8678]

@@FoundedScreenLady yeah hopefully so

[@yourstrulli9089]

Bro I had just mastered the angle for the Vow dam jump and was starting to teach it to friends. I never saw a problem with stuff like that, just thought of it as emergent gameplay

[@uberculex]

Probably just a casualty of general geometry fixes to stop actual cheese.

[@davisandes6480]

The vow fix is really sad

[@bOraNge_The_Smiley_Orange]

taking away being able to kill the old birds with the worm is not great, ive never actually done it but i can imagine it helping a lot

[@call_me_bread]

@@bOraNge_The_Smiley_Orange it made for some amazing moments and so he just took away something so obscure that would create such hype moments

[@KwehShiro]

@@call_me_bread i hope zeekers backtrack on that and come to realise not all tricks to kill mobs and os on shoudl be fixed. that coilhead looking down is definitely getting fixed though lol...

[@LethalFellowship]

so now worms don't interact with old birds at all? that definitely doesn't add to the depth of gameplay

[@jodieamox]

Just so you guys know, he did go back on this - I don’t think it was an intentional thing he added actually

[@jetkirby3981]

The patches seem more about fixing cheese than actual bugs. I wish from day one that things didn't still fall through the ship

[@call_me_bread]

@@jetkirby3981 my thoughts exactly

[@zestypatmike]

Or loot spawning in glitched unobtainable spots. But no, add some broken feature that may be funny the first time but quickly becomes annoying with no counterplay. And then remove all the cool and fun techniques that only 1% of players even use

[@jetkirby3981]

Yeah, I love Zeekers and the game but the patches seem a little misguided. Could probably make a list of day 1 bugs that are still in the game. Why no joining after starting the game yet, why no fixes for Cruiser which still can randomly explode, was the Vow jump really something to focus on already?

[@jetkirby3981]

I don't know where Zeekers reads or takes suggestions, but it's looking like top player gameplay In addition, it makes no sense that Giants are one of the most common enemies in the game and pop up at every corner. I think Worms were removed from the snow maps and barely show up now at all. How about a Yeti enemy for the snow maps instead of 50 giants that can't be seen? Things to have current players staying longer

[@jmj0795]

@@jetkirby3981 zeekers hates the top players lol. He has made it very clear how little he wants people to run high quotas with the changes. It's only been downhill since v50

[@homesncak]

Bro doesn’t want any high quota players to have fun

[@LethalFellowship]

I like high quota, but the fact that literally every interaction in the game has some specific trick and glitch is getting tiresome. Can't we just compete in playing the game in the intended and sensible way?

[@jmj0795]

@@LethalFellowship nothings stopping you from doing that but you're limiting yourself heavily if you don't want to learn good strats for things

[@LethalFellowship]

@@jmj0795 yeah, that's the point. They are only 'good strats' for glitch hunters and exploiters, not so much for gameplay itself, and also creates a huge gap between experienced players and novices (experienced players would be annoyed while novices are in constant awe from all the wtf things that pros are performing). I don't wanna be limited by consciously avoiding non-sense things like: doing squads three times per second to move silently (bro wat?), jumping on a fence to get bees stuck in place (huh?), killing entities through the ship door, ship wall or interior door (errm…), clipping through various surfaces including clipping the Maneater (excuse me?), parcouring on Adamance (nearly impossible at low FPS like on my old laptop, very frustrating), jumping and dropping items after the ship took off to get them counted as collected (how do you even excuse that one?), avoiding horizontal speed damage by dropping jetpack mid-air (this is NOT the definition of safe landing!) etc. etc. There are high quality games out there basically without any exploitable glitches, and they they have active competitive scene where an actual skill matters, for example Chess, Tetris, Super Smash Bros., Splatoon ­- and I'd wish LC could stand in their tier instead of being a glitch hunt competition.

[@SaviorOfHarran]

@@jmj0795bugs and glitches shouldn’t be strategys

[@6Monto]

@@jmj0795 those are not strat, traping coils, glitching maneater and such should be not allowed... the robot unkillable now is bs tho.

[@PIGEON5265]

Noo being able to stant on old birds was my favorite change 😢

[@ShorttEclipse]

he removed it before v64 went live cuz of some unintended behavior so I think he'll add it back at some point, at least when he comes back from working on Welcome To The Dark Place

[@thesocketsnatcher4306]

Apparently there were a ton of glitches with riding old birds. For example, when the old birds fly into the sky, it would apparently shrink the player with the old bird for some reason. Since Zeekerss is taking a break for a while after this update, he probably didn’t want to make himself work on something that would take a long time, like fixing the old bird riding, which is probably why he removed it for the time being. Or at least that’s my theory.

[@PIGEON5265]

@@thesocketsnatcher4306 i think you're theory's correct! Speaking of his new game, i wonder what kind of game it will be?🤔 I saw some welcome to the dark place's beta videos, and it looked like a visual novel... without visual. I am intrigued!

[@deegleedee]

Zeeker really focus on the wrong bug to fix and what's worst is that he seem to prefer to fix the one that makes the game easier or fun.

[@Stratilex]

It's LETHAL company, it should be anything but easy imo. Overcoming the challenge and the stress that comes along with that is what makes the game fun imo

[@alphacj]

Removing artifice fence jumps, removed vow jump, and killing old birds with worm…. I understand most of that is unintentional but Zeekers seems to like removing things that most players liked or didn’t have a problem with. Now if I have a giant at fire on vow I can’t do anything to escape but look for main inside. Having an escape that took time and a bit of skill was fun for me. Rambling aside I do like the other changes (like the all items stuff). Great video bread👍 Edit: Well this got a lot more attention than I thought wow. Really cool to see people discussing this in the replies. I should clarify that the main issue I find with this patch is that fact that zeekers choose to fix more minor "exploits" over actual issues like out of bounds/stuck scrap and numerous desync issues. I'm not trying to trash talk zeekers, especially being a solo dev but I just don't understand his prioritization.

[@StarFruitNinjaCR]

Regardless of your personal opinion, removing bugs from the game make the game run smoother and makes players general experiences better. Non exploitable gameplay leads to more of a challenge. This isn't meant to be an easy game. If it was the game would be called "bug exploit simulator" not lethal company

[@Tohkie]

​@@StarFruitNinjaCRhorrible take. first of all, i dont see any of how these specific bugs would affect game performance. second of all, these are tech used exclusively by end game players. instead of removing said tech, why not embrace it? thats already what many of the most popular indie games do anyways, theres little reason to remove it other than zeekers going "no! this is not how u should play the game!"

[@tomas6621]

​@@TohkieI think the update cycle is the problem. I don't want to alarm, but it looks the same as team fortress 2 update cycle in the past. The only way to fix it is to slow it down or release updates when they are ready. Updating every 3 months is a bad idea in my opinion.

[@alika3651]

i personally never used any of these techs because i didnt take the time to learn them and they didnt bother me cuz i love it when the community finds new strats. skill should be rewarded, not patched out of existence

[@jmj0795]

​@@StarFruitNinjaCR except noone enjoys these changes because its not like they're easy to do. You have to practice every one of the things to be consistent. Seriously if you haven't tried it before just have a giant chase you into the vow valley the stress can easily make you slip up. Trapping coils was the only easy entity to trap and even then all it takes is 1 weird pathing moment and it flanks you in 1.5 seconds. But zeekers refuses to patch actual game breaking bugs players don't want to see like invisible robots and major desync problems. Zeekers actively alienates the people who run this game. Unfair does not equal a good survival horror. Removing a jump I learned to do isn't going to make me scared of the game again

[@ashwink7644]

The Vow Patch is inhuman.

[@LethalFellowship]

Was climbing up a corner of a concrete wall with two handed scrap something a human in a space suit would do though?

[@ashwink7644]

@kirigami-fold That's true. But, that was the one cheese that was saving the Vow Fire Exit strategy. Maybe he can add a ladder forcing not to allow two-handed scrap to be carried that way. That's good enough, I guess. I've seen such ladders in dams, too, so it isn't illogical.

[@LethalFellowship]

@@ashwink7644 agreed. More ladders and other *legit* vertical navigation in the game would be amazing (BotW/TOTK style). Maybe a fully weed-killed Company Cruiser could be used for fire exit jump on Vow?

[@RedRussian1337]

damn, bread, at this point I am convinced Zeekers just watches your videos and fixes all features you've found... Tell him to pay you for bughunting, cuz you like a whole QA-department for him

[@eliasdex1236]

You were too good at destroying Old Birds with the Earth Leviatan that Zeekers had to nerf it lol

[@ruub9971]

Yeah thats..what Bread said..as well..

[@Leonlonnyluv]

Did zeekers directly mention the old bird and worm interaction in the patchnotes? It might have honestly been a consequence or getting rid of the player riding them.

[@pohgii]

every time popular tech gets removed it squeezes the fun out of the game more and more to the point that I don't even want to launch it atp

[@fireking6308]

Naw this is probably gonna make the game better like when he removed rail cheese and glitching out of the apparatus room back to main

[@pohgii]

@@fireking6308 what demographic could he possibly be appealing to when removing niche stuff like this lol

[@arksurvivalevolvedtricks]

He also patched the Offense Rock fire jump AND the Vow Dam jump :( :( and also putting the maneater inside walls

[@Slameguy]

Fixing the offense rock fire jump is stupid, how tf are we supposed to climb now without a ladder? It should've been a skill check instead of a "buy this to get this" bullshit

[@arksurvivalevolvedtricks]

@Slameguy real bro. I hate how it is fixed now. The only ways to get on it is with a ladder, jetpack or jumping on the pipe right before you land the ship

[@alika3651]

YEAH LIKE it took skill to get up there n they just patched it out for what. but also theres another way of getting up there and its ejecting yourself from the cruiser but idk how many ppl actually buy it nowadays

[@rynisthatboi2000]

⁠​⁠@@arksurvivalevolvedtricks you can still get to the offense fire exit if you miss it on the landing. Just use the metal supports on the big pipes to climb up. It seems to be faster than the rock jump.

[@LethalFellowship]

​@@Slameguy that's the point, you were not supposed to get there without a ladder.

[@MantisMiles-santodea]

genuinely so happy we can look all the way up and down now

[@-Pollux-]

idk, it feels weird adding a jetpack and a shovel into a small satchet but, apparently a shotgun can still be carried while holding an axle so I can’t complain lol

[@lemancitriton260]

I never got to ride that robot smh

[@Omor_Fard]

I’m gonna miss those artifice fence jumps SO bad 😭😭

[@Samadiarie]

Every time I see new tech I don't even get to try it before it gets removed...

[@uberculex]

The game is in beta. I wouldn't recommend trying to master tech that may not be in the game in an update.

[@Samadiarie]

@@uberculex I think you misunderstand the purpose of playing the game

[@uberculex]

@@Samadiarie Is the purpose not gathering scrap and avoiding monsters? I guess it was just jumping up geometric meshes the whole time.

[@Samadiarie]

@@uberculex The purpose is to have fun

[@marioisawesome8218]

@@uberculex i thought the purpose was to get scared with your friends?

[@crisperstorm]

Hey Zeekers Why is the toilet paper still conductive? What is in it?

[@lamegamertime]

whoopie cushion isn't conductive

[@crisperstorm]

@@lamegamertime oh never realized they fixed that

[@olezhapelmesha4267]

​@crisperstorm don't worry, soccer ball is still conductive

[@alijava9941]

If looking down is able to stop Coilheads, can it also stop the Braken from sneaking up on you or nah?

[@LimeFlavoredDrink]

1:14 what the hell is a haunted door bread

[@call_me_bread]

random doors on mansion will open and close by themselves (i believe after being interacted with)

[@Kennedy00Louis]

Alter ego made a video about insanity and fear mechanics and everything they are related to if you want a deeper insight on it. Haunted doors are affected by insanity, causing a chance of a door closing/opening on it's own when you're nearby. So far this is mansion exclusive. I am unsure if a door must have been interacted before for it to be able to happen.

[@dogazlakii]

I think this is update is complicated. On one side we have a strong belt bag and on the other we have fixes for some techs that didn't need them. For example I do understand that trapping monsters in mansion was fun but also it looks silly and I understand Zeekers wanting to fix that. Same goes for Vow jump, it also looked silly and not intentional. Fixing those kinds of exploits is annoying but makes sense. However fixing stuff like standing on the old bird, jumping on the fence is just removing skill from the game for no reason. Update: I have now been to the LC discord and people there say the unkillable Old Bird is a bug. Hopefully thats true :) Still the fence jump and standing on old bird should come back! Imo exploits should be fixed ofc but some of them didn't even feel like exploits so idk why they were changed.

[@jason0803]

Based take

[@Egorgamer-ik9cw]

The artifice fence is directly tied to vow's dam jump. It's the same movement mechanic. He changed something about all slopes in general, you can't jump up a slope even on experimentation now

[@rolexkaard134]

rip vow fire jump, that was one of my favorite things to do...

[@Deaf9169]

I don't know what web bug was, but on the new patch I entered a fire exit immediately into a web and left immediately. After that the game thought I was permanently in the web.

[@olezhapelmesha4267]

Well that exactly what a bug was... But sometimes you were permaweb when you touched web and destroyed it while being in it

[@exxpo7870]

I was in a mineshaft when the meteors alert popped up. Scared the shit out of me.

[@hughmann8824]

The Utility Belt is wonderful, especially as a solo player. Giant pathing is also so nice. Meteor showers are cool as Hell. Alright update 👍 Honestly, I get removing some of the fence and bridge cheeses, since they were very silly and could break emersion/separate crews if some didn't know how to. Earth Leviathans not killing Old Birds sounds like it was because of the 'player can stand on Old Birds' change, as it would be WAY too easy to kill an Old Bird like that, but hasn't been reverted like the actual feature was. The Interior changes are much appreciated, as it felt like I was mostly getting Mineshaft and the occasional Mansion, even on Rend and Dine, and seldom seeing a facility.

[@daikikazumayt]

I am so disappointed we can't jump the fence or jump from Vow's fire exit...

[@firerush4554]

I swear zeekers makes some of the coolest features then completely nerfs them or gets rid of them. Pretty mid update

[@arandomalt4158]

Riding old birds will probably be re-added if the weird side effects are foxed

[@Reddd0222]

im gonna miss that vow fire exit climb, rip

[@RWS_]

Zeekerrs after completely ignoring bugs that players has been begging to be fixed for months and fixing cool rewarding tech that helped skilled and experienced players

[@RWS_]

Btw im not dissing the game or hate it, its just im tired of seeing strats that aren’t even that op get a higher prioritization to get patched over genuinely game breaking bugs that ruin the experience. I get that zeekerrs is a single dev but its still heartbreaking

[@LoganOnTheRun20]

New update and the Bracken is still hyper agressive whenever I play and the Butler attacks even when I'm in a squad. Great.

[@JakCC]

Goldeneye look down is real

[@IkEisawesome7]

Was some of the main changes just removing loot from March? Ran the moon 6 times in a row and hardly found anything. It was maybe just bad luck

[@ZahavaEversley]

I love you so much! I recently just found your kislux and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life

[@dailydoseofbenadryl5096]

let players trap a coilhead on the railing? ❌ let players basically be immune to coilheads by adding 180 degree y-axis visibility? ✅

[@PraiseTheDreadFather]

Why patch the cool jumps and stuff? Just seems asinine.

[@texticks]

i love what zeekerss is doing content-wise with the game but i think he needs to shift focus in the bug fixing department. before any cheese strats get fixed he should focus on fixing actual gameplay bugs like auto-sprinting when first joining a lobby, not being able to pause unless you spam tab at the terminal, control indicator in the top right being incorrect if you've changed keybinds, etc etc etc. lots of bugs that have been plaguing me and my friends ever since the game released. i don't even play high quota but i think removing stuff like old birds being eaten just because its technically unintended and therefore a bug instead of fixing the actual few issues the game has is a little misguided.

[@Mirabelinde]

Removing the artifice fence and the vow fire jumps is so lame. It's going to annoy people when the basic gameplay changes the whole time. You think you know a moon and suddenly its all different again. You think you know the mechanics and suddenly they change again. I miss the old days when games had only major expansions every few years, not constant updates that change the game so much randomly.

[@fireking6308]

Bro what did you expect from an early access game? For it to stay the same all the way until it releases? To build every single update as an "expansion" and never touch any previous content?

[@Mirabelinde]

@@fireking6308 early access seems like it's by name only and a good excuse to avoid responsibility for bad decisions.

[@zackschy2689]

The coilhead trick only works on really low ping. If you're not host and you have even slightly laggy connection, they'll just kill you.

[@musicaldoge9412]

Thank you for keeping it short 🙏

[@blitzball9915]

Good change for Coil. Now it's a little more manageable when you're solo

[@SullySadface]

Oh, no wonder I was always getting mineshafts on Vow. That was ridiculous.

[@AltoEcho]

Not sure how I feel about the tool belt bag. Seems a lil op for its price, but I guess we'll have to see, Just my opinion but: --It should increase in weight by what is in it --probably shouldn't have that many slots --probably shouldn't be able to carry another belt inside a belt + Cool that you can use it by looking down at it without hotbarring to it

[@valeriucb6497]

My guy added the best tip at the end , smart-

[@itzwaluigitime8678]

So it's your fault we can't kill Old Birds with Worms now ? You'll pay for this one, Bread. Grrrr

[@jayflowerboy9571]

I have close to 100 hours and never have I ever seen a haunted door, wow.

[@Stratilex]

they're new

[@ReindelBohinc]

Combining elegance and luxury kislux

[@Worker225]

What even is the "web bug"? 2:27

[@call_me_bread]

@@Worker225 you became infinitely slow after stepping in a web

[@Official3hreeL3ftFe3t]

I NEVER GOT TO RIDE AN OLD BIRD ZEEKERSS I FUCKING HATE YOOUUUU 😭😭😭

[@alika3651]

ME NEITHER LMAOOOOOOO

[@he3004]

I think this got removed because you could place a radar booster on top of the robot (basically a shock collar lol, stun the robot anytime from the ship)

[@marioisawesome8218]

@@he3004 you can just do that at his feet??? with any monster???

[@he3004]

@@marioisawesome8218 yeah but monsters can and will move away from the radar booster if the stun duration isn't longer than 2-3 seconds (fun fact: the radar booster can't walk) so when you put the radar booster on the robots head this basically means the robot is always with the radar booster and can be stunned from terminal at any given time

[@Rainfall233]

Honestly the only changes i disagree with is vow not being 99% mineshaft and leviathans no longer eating old birds

[@jacobrutzke691]

The old birds not dying is a bug

[@nasuto6828]

The only complaint i have with this update is you no longer stand on Old Birds. I honestly don't know why zeekers removed that feature, maybe it was a bit op.

[@texticks]

he removed it due to severely glitching out the game, but people on the discord have contacted him with code to fix it so maybe he'll re-add it

[@nasuto6828]

@@texticks oh ok

[@pockets8548]

friend was telling me the suits now have different abilities. when was this added? like they said the bunny suit gives a higer jump and a boing sfx when jumping

[@Max_Rl894]

i swear ive been seeing more maskeds on adamance

[@alexsimon8355]

You said you keep it short and you did so i liked

[@pugrilla21]

You can no longer climb the rock to fire exit on offense too D; 1:51

[@AaronScotz]

Why make Old Birds unkillable by Earth Worms now? That is such a stupid buff imo. It was already hard to pull it off. This really do be the anti-fun update. Also the belt is too OP. I think belts shouldn't be able to hold other belts if they have items in them. Also, Vow Fire Exit climb and Artifice Fence climb being patched is a sad sight indeed. They were so fun to do for speedruns. I get why they're fixed, but very sad.

[@makuaureo]

It's more of a side effect, he was fixing them being killable with cc

[@STIMULAT10N]

@@makuaureo what is cc?

[@AaronScotz]

@@STIMULAT10N custom content

[@makuaureo]

@@STIMULAT10N company cruiser

[@Whispernyan]

Are you saying belt bags are OP because they've been a tremendous help to you on your runs or are you calling them OP because your mind can't handle putting a bag into another bag

[@Fiftyblessings]

Certain cheeses in the game add more to its charm which makes it so fun to play in the first place. Nerfing said gimmicks just sets a serious tone for the game and allows less room for fun, which is why this game got popular in the first place. I just hope the game could maintain that balance between fun and scary

[@Stratilex]

it needs to have some level of realism though, jumping up a wall doesnt make sense lol

[@theWastedSpace13]

You should do a Vid with all the current tech u know, as this was one of the last Updates for now

[@Aninvader-rm4fl]

It doesn't make sense for Vow to have its mineshaft chance decreased by so much, it was the one moon with a near guarantee to have mineshaft, like Rend for mansion, so why was its chance to have mineshaft halved now there's no real consistent way to get mineshaft. it just doesn't make sense to me

[@Maxikinz]

Good video. Would be nice if you included old values for all changes when saying them (e.g. what the maneater's old weight was, since it wasn't clear if it was increased or decreased from this video alone)

[@J-Wolf17FTW]

I feels so bad for Coil Heads, they've been getting nerf after nerf after nerf.

[@redinmolator]

In LoL they call that the "Kassadin gambit"

[@jmj0795]

Zeekers really out here patching everything fun in the game. Was coping that the new version was playable but zeekers really hates non-new players it seems

[@fireking6308]

Bro this literally only effects high quota runners not the larger playerbase how is this "Unplayable"

[@jmj0795]

@@fireking6308 yeah my bad wrong wording. Games still playable. I mean high quota isn't playable. Because zeekers is taking away from things we found that are fun, constantly adding broken things, and not fixing actual issues. When we have the option to go back to when the game was actually balanced to run the game there's no reason not to. Which sucks cause some of the new features were actually pretty fun like tile generation, single item days, the maneater. But when it's accompanied by decisions I'd expect from a triple A game it sours the pot

[@fireking6308]

@@jmj0795 Honestly man the only content that wasn't optional to interact with that I found to be bad was the fox, which is being reworked rn so I'm not too mad about it

[@jmj0795]

@@fireking6308 have you been running high quota since before v60? If not it's understandable. The difference in balancing quality between mineshaft and other interiors is painfully obvious. That and Zeekers making mineshaft one of the most common interiors forcing it down people's throats as a buggy mess just didn't work for high quota. Had a group chat with 10 active players immediately die down after the updates because the new updates are very anti-high quota. And as mentioned, the biggest issue being Zeekers bug priority, removing harmless fun bugs over actual game breaking issues. I liked alot of the new features but the biggest issue is the awful balancing. Edit: by difference in balancing quality. I mean, me, someone with 1000 hours in the game at this point with very little idle hours, struggle to kill 1 thumper in the caves. So many nooks and crannies you have to crouch and jump over that I just don't see how a more casual player will ever even run from them situations let alone beat the thumper

[@fireking6308]

@@jmj0795 gonna be real I don't run high quota at all I'm not a runner. I think most people aren't and the fact that he builds his game around the average player rather than the top 1% of players is NOT a bad thing. Also personally the caves aren't that bad or even buggy. I mainly just wish there were more unique tiles in mineshaft in both the caves and building section and maybe some more monsters which are mostly found in mineshafts so that interior has more of it's own identity. How the mineshafts actually PLAY isn't that bad tho, speaking as a casual player.

[@ChlorineJug]

So I can buy 60 Flashlights with 4 bags?

[@etmason]

more than that you can put full bags inside of other bags inside of other bags

[@N04Lee-lf4jj]

does the maneater dropoff spot in the big room in the facility still work

[@iitsMikeB]

Weird how no items seem to be conductive on v64. Is that a bug or something?

[@LordofPotatos]

Yo they added shulkerboxes to Lethal Companyyyyy

[@M1kBam]

15 secs ago is wild

[@RikaBarasuishou]

frfr

[@joshuaviolette7884]

Rip vow bridge jump

[@BradberriedOSRS]

He also patched the jump spot on top of elevator much more difficult to get up there now

[@BlueyBluebloo-y6p]

Zeekers pathetic logic: "Oh my, you're too good in the game, let me use the broken program to make sure you fail."

[@6Monto]

toilet paper also not conductive anymore

[@comb-t]

Vow not being 99% mineshaft, sure, okay, valid, but vow jump my beloved 💔 GIVE IT BACK ZEEKERS YOU MONSTER. Artifice Nerf was bad, its just not worth going there with my & my teams skill issue asses but I can't even do the funky things with the fences anymore, just why? Personally, I really like the belt bag - I think its a reasonably balanced item that encourages a playstyle of using the tools that is currently not that present, without really being OP to do so. Just makes the playstyle about equally viable and means any future tools added to the shop can be more niche and still see some use imo.

[@SaltyStufon]

2:41 i love this because giants give me skill issues.

[@Epicbob71]

I like the meteor shower but I’ve never even experienced it before since it’s a 0.6 % chance lol. I never really use the belt bag (which is the main part of the update) and kinda sucks how the earth livathen isn’t “top of the food chain” anymore. Tbh kinda mid update

[@noquad824]

So, after Helldivers, I will now get killed in lethal company due to random meteors too?

[@call_me_bread]

@@noquad824 yes!

[@Jono00o]

ty for the vid, some of these are really rare and hard to find out so thanks!

[@inreallife530]

T perm your favourite?

[@etmason]

@@inreallife530it is a W alg

[@imahaloguy]

Can you teleport with the belt bag? It looks like you can wear it around your waist, I’m hopeful.

[@etmason]

well it’s still an item in a slot

[@Rylika]

Vow climb fixed made me sad

[@_Greyboi_]

Is the coilhead one intended? I doubt it

[@jako7120]

never going to vow again 😢fire boys nerf thank you zeekers

[@Anorak506]

Ship loot should be in the game

[@rcdacat1921]

The HQ community needs to make mineshafts absolutely broken for High quota so Zeekers then has to remove them

[@Stratilex]

bruh mineshafts are cool

[@rcdacat1921]

@@Stratilex bro I already had a 2 day long convo abt Mineshafts in Zeekers' server I aint having it here

[@Stratilex]

@@rcdacat1921 fair enough but I like them, though on solo they are a bit of a pain due to the intricacy of the caves. still would rather play it than the boring mazes in factory though

[@x3xNoelle]

Still can't believe how much changed between your initial video earlier and your stream? Also the time this spent in beta vs in the public branch is nuts. Thanks for the vid!

[@SilverRe87779]

we need standing on old birds back i wanna play titanfall in lethal company :(

[@volynx]

Zeekers patched all the cool tricks. :( casuals are not harmed by the vow jump or fence jumps, it's a shame that stuff like that can't exist just for dealing with any situation

[@a_angry_bunny]

Can we still drop maneaters into the abyss?

[@call_me_bread]

@@a_angry_bunny you can but they teleport out now after some time

[@brobiv2452]

when is 1.0 coming out

[@AnimeSups]

46 seconds ago is wild