Triumph you f’ked up…no twin clocks!!! You need to sack people!!! Listen to your fanbase not your marketing team!!!
@Jacob991742 ай бұрын
-First the ugly winged style cluster on the Street Triple RS -Now this monstrosity Who is head of their gauge display department? They are severely undermining all of the incredible work of the other departments!
@Big_Dumb_Animal2 ай бұрын
Probably get a 2024 Thruxton that's brand new sitting on a dealer floor, for a lot less now that these have been released.
@Dooby00712 ай бұрын
last time i checked you dont drive a clock
@kasey10062 ай бұрын
Please, put back to classic style 2 clocks, speedo + odo, not this modern one coming from the trident.
@FithrieFithrie2 ай бұрын
Should remain the classic clocks
@gpzfan52722 ай бұрын
Should they go back to pushrod actuated valves whilst they’re at it?
@abhiramkandregula2 ай бұрын
@@gpzfan5272 hahahahahahaha
@garywoodward67502 ай бұрын
Thanks Triumph, my 2023 is now more desirable with it's shiny twin clocks.
@Toporusk2 ай бұрын
Totally
@tnetroP2 ай бұрын
Agree.
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@garywoodward6750 Yes Totally Agree Now after this Shit I’m glad I bought my 23 ST1200👍👍
@Carlos_5002 ай бұрын
That plastic Trident clock is a deal breaker man
@peterleash39982 ай бұрын
No twin cloocks??? Are you kidding???
@Skyhigh2752 ай бұрын
We need Two dials dude.
@MrIstanbulTurkey2 ай бұрын
This new funky paint job and mono tft clock made our 2.gen speed twins are priceless.
@MikeGreen-f9p2 ай бұрын
No thanks - love the look of the 2 clocks
@robinsingh39922 ай бұрын
Thank god! I bought the 2023 model.
@gorilka292 ай бұрын
Agreed with you I am glad I bought my as well
@fyorbane2 ай бұрын
And you slap on a budget dash and want 14.5k for it. No thanks. For that price I would expect full Ohlins front forks and those gorgeous clocks from the Thruxton. I was interested in buying one but not now. You have blown it.
@darrenhall65092 ай бұрын
I am the proud owner of a 23 Speed in Orange. Bought new and my first Triumph in over forty years of riding. I have been really impressed with my bike, the dealer and all after care. Coming to the end of my riding carrier and the Speed was going to be the last bike. Then a whisper of an RS version, interesting, exciting even, maybe my last hurrah could be with a new RS. Then I saw it, sorry but it looks awful. The old version (mine) you can visually see a tie-up to a Bonneville, a hot rod version of one, that`s why I bought it. The new one, has non of these design ques, apart from the motor, which now looks out of place. It could now have Yamasaki on the tank and even that lovely previous shape has been altered for the worse. All the RS version needed was the adjustable forks, maybe the rear springs (but I think the standard ones are fine, so are the brakes) and some trick colours and a few more billet bits here and there. Now it looks cheap, plasticky and not retro at all. Sorry to go on but I for one was disappointed, the design team have ruined a future classic and that is such a shame. On the bright side, I get to keep a bike that you as Triumph should be proud of.
@yeshwanthgollaprolu2 ай бұрын
Ruined it... It is supposed to be retro... Twin clocks are huge miss 😢
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
Yes Totally Agree Retro Yes Up grades definitely needed but Not That✌️
@nassosa2 ай бұрын
when people asked for an RS version of the speed twin I don't think anyone was saying to make it more modern. By removing the twin clocks and by adding those speed 400 design ques like near the air filter, it's just tasteless. Sorry Triumph I'll stick with my 2022 Speed twin with Ohlins in the back and stunning looks.
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
I agree. And I'll stick with my 2019 Speed Twin. Haven't Ohlins, but I can to install in future and I love all details of my bike.
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@nassosa Totally Agree My 23 ST is slowly becoming my own RS version✌️
@rottweilerfun95202 ай бұрын
I just wanted some more horses , more than five .
@christopherwatson72842 ай бұрын
Looks like it's unanimous Triumph. Twin clocks are a winner.
@MobiusT1202 ай бұрын
That single digital clock ain't it. On the Triples, sure. But the Bonnevilles need twin clocks, or at least a mostly analog clock.
@JelloThatsMellow2 ай бұрын
The price crept up, and the twin clocks are gone..
@MrMikey17032 ай бұрын
Plus the spec went DOWN on the base model. Incredibly disappointing Triumph. Plus I agree on the hundreds of comments about the twin clocks. You Fucked up Triumph!
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
I agree. Very expensive 🫰 andyour design around panel was deprecated.
@aldeen19822 ай бұрын
Base model has a digital dash, which is cheaper, has plastic mud guards with are cheaper, no brembo anymore, which is cheaper… but the price increased. Well done. 👍
@justwoody65112 ай бұрын
Removing the twin clocks and putting a cheap looking display on the new Speed Twin instead? Uff...
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
NO TWIN CLOCKS🤬
@gpzfan52722 ай бұрын
Touch grass
@raumiosveri95982 ай бұрын
Lo peor q hicieron, fue quitar los relojes
@Jacob991742 ай бұрын
Imagine staring at that twinkie digital box while riding A cheap Trident gauge on a beautiful classic bike
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@Jacob99174 I gt so many compliments on my 23 ST1200 Especially on the Twin Clocks on how nice they look So it’s a keeper Stay Safe & Hav Fun✌️🤓
@SquireSCA2 ай бұрын
Probably because of all the upgraded electronics.. You now have ride modes and things that you can configure, and a digital dash makes that all easier... Hard to do all that on analogue dials, I would imagine?
@Phillc7482 ай бұрын
My god triumph you’ve almost put me off with this video, take it easy, it’s like your man has eaten a dictionary
@EminBastea2 ай бұрын
🤮🤮🤮🤮 digital display. Worst decision ever Please bring back the ol' Thruxton 1200 on the market
@reddpill2 ай бұрын
What is going on at Triumph with the decisions behind this bike? The 400 was a clearly a success but judging by the public feedback, this bike release has been a disaster. And what's with all the different angles, nothing aligns. Seat, Side panels, motor, and tank all point in different directions? The colour schemes are terrible and now there's an entry-level bike's dash on a 14k+ priced bike. ? And cruise control is an additional option? That should be standard on both variants today.
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
I agree. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@jhastube2 ай бұрын
I agree with every single word.
@Mujahideen_khinzir2 ай бұрын
No twin clocks and the wheels are ugly. Shouldve kept the old wheels
@charlesm.88072 ай бұрын
Then it would have been a Thruxton?
@Mujahideen_khinzir2 ай бұрын
@@charlesm.8807 then it is the speedtwin. The new speedtwin is a trident on steroids
@BobbyRoy2 ай бұрын
Twin instrument pods gone!? Damn! Nope, not interested in the modern classics anymore as it doesn't remain much "Classic" anymore. I absolutely love (loved, now though) the Speed Twin 1200, but the usage of this digital dash from the Trident 660 looks absolutely horrendous on the Speed 1200. Extremely disappointed. :(
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
Really! And they need to search your clients for future changes.
@MOTOUK12 ай бұрын
As a lover of the Triumph brand, i think while this may be a better package, handling etc. I cannot get why you would drop the twin clocks which looked elegant for the trident digital dash, this is wrong. Bring back the Thruxton RS which i would take any day over this. Just my opinion 👍
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
I love my 2019 Speed Twin and I will not change to 2025 Speed Twin with a single digital panel. I did think of changing to a new '25 model, but no more. I will only do upgrades on my bike. I love all the details of the 2019 model.
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@anonymousworldp1 Good Decision👍
@Mujahideen_khinzir2 ай бұрын
No thanks. I’m going to buy the older models😂
@SuperSportler432 ай бұрын
I was really expecting a combination of the Speed Twin and Thruxton, and then this comes out. Sorry Triumph, but to me it looks like a slightly larger 400 model. I’ll stick with my Z900RS for now and hope you release something super cool soon, like the Thruxton.
@SBKPete2 ай бұрын
So the base model with lower spec brakes, costs more than the outgoing model, with Brembo’s 🤷🏻♂️ And as for that single clock 🤦🏻
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
Absurd
@emin742 ай бұрын
That’s what they have done with scramblers. I was having high hope for speed twin refreshment but now sadly disappointed.
@rottweilerfun95202 ай бұрын
They also took out Sport Mode , and installed plastic instead of brushed aluminum fenders. The only real upgrade on the bike is 5 more HP . Triumph is usually really good when they make changes , this time they've really screwed the pooch.
@dante5562 ай бұрын
Rs for 14k and there are no double clocks. The bike looks great and the changes are great, but in my opinion Triumph will lose a lot of customers because of this cheap speed measuring crap.
@blackfu6752 ай бұрын
RIP Speed Twin!
@krzysztofkozowski63502 ай бұрын
OMG The dash looks so cheap now. Bikes are nice but expensive For the price of RS I would go with Thruxton.
@raysen6232 ай бұрын
I would made the twin clocks solution optional to let buyers choose their own style. I like this display but twin clocks more for this bike.
@andrewwalters42712 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful bike, but I don't understand why Triumph killed the Thruxton name and then basically brings it back but without the name and twin gauges.
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@andrewwalters4271 It was a beautiful classic/ retro motorcycle But Not Now everything about it is wrong n my opinion🤔✌️
@Neil_Llewellyn2 ай бұрын
The end can puts me off the most. I think if I changed my 2020 speed twin today I would go for the Kawazaki z900rs. A retro with all the history and cheaper; it pains me to say this. my local dealer has been amazing but the recent bikes seem to be watered down. I know there is more HP but the cheaper parts/less quality and more cost.
@SuperSportler432 ай бұрын
I didn’t get the old Thruxton because it’s already 8 years old, so I went for the beautiful Z900RS instead, hoping that something really cool would come out soon - a retro combination of the Speed Twin and Thruxton. But this is really way off, so I’ll stick with my Kawa for now and hope Triumph will release something truly cool soon.
@D1PAYAN2 ай бұрын
Shouldn't have changed the twin clocks (-_-)
@ruudspark2 ай бұрын
Oh dear no twin clocks and cheaper looking front brake, will stick with my 22 I think.
@inthesupernovashadow2 ай бұрын
triumph, if you still have time to pause production and switch to the old twin clock design you should do that. the single clock design looks cheap and off center, making the bike appear asymmetrical. it sure seems like you listened to a bean counter instead of someone who actually has a passion for this model. ya done goofed here.
@dimitriwhite9279Ай бұрын
Triumph please change the clocks back. Please!
@99Apit2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Now my Thruxton rs will be priceless..
@thecappy2 ай бұрын
I just need the forks and clamps for my ‘19. Already have the rear Ohlins.
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
And I'll stick with my 2019 Speed Twin. Haven't Ohlins, but I can to install in future. I love all details of my bike.
@thecappy2 ай бұрын
@@anonymousworldp1 we can also de-cat and tune ours a lot easier too. Did that to mine too.
@bradwoodard82892 ай бұрын
Rider position is a great feature on my 2019, like a hybrid between the triple and the T120. I like tucking in on the freeway, then having a relative upright position in town. Plus the twin clocks on my bike with the Arton Works face swap out looks incredible. Can't imagine trading that for the brand generic looking round digital screen. The tank paint job, while not unattractive, will make adding any tank pads look clunky and unaesthetic.
@anonymousworldp12 ай бұрын
I agree! I love my 2019 Speed Twin and I will not change to 2025 Speed Twin with a single digital panel. I did think of changing to a new '25 model, but no more. I will only do upgrades on my bike. I love all the details of the 2019 model.
@karlosh92862 ай бұрын
I love the twin clocks and the red and black paint scheme on my 2019 Speed Twin. I wouldn't have minded a quick shifter and cruise control, maybe the better suspension. Sorry, I really doubt if I'll be changing my 2019 one, those twin clocks on my one, I still really like looking at them ! Now if you made a 1050 -> 1200 triple engined (with a 120 degree crank, and NOT a lumpy T plane crank) modern classic that looked like a speed twin , I could be interested in one of those ! ( with Twin clocks like a 2019 Speed Twin, QS, cruise control and a nice planish red paint scheme )
@ianarmstrong92622 ай бұрын
I have just purchased a pair of Nitron rear shocks for my 22 speed twin. I’ll keep my two clocks too!
@col.sirbuffyhorsetrouser63542 ай бұрын
Oh dear..no. My 2019 Thruxton R looks a million dollars compared to this.. if this is the real, ready-to-be-released iteration, than I think you have really cocked up Triumph.. sorry, just no. Not a credible replacement for the Thruxton R (or RS), and insulting to Speed Twin owners - Model yr 2024 Speed Twin's have now just gone up in value!
@floraexoticsfloraexotics2 ай бұрын
What have you done Triumph !! Are your designers out of their minds??? I used to be a Triumph owner. I travelled 500 Km away and was supposed to test ride the last generation T speed twin and wait and buy the new ST!! What a bummer the twin dials are no more! This has put me off and not buying a retro classic with single digital Speedo !! Goodbye Triumph 😢 !
@hruncorsa99212 ай бұрын
REST IN PEACE instrument cluster😢
@gothickah02 ай бұрын
This one focus on cafe racer. I'm glad i still own the 2023 version. It got it all including the twin clocks
@Pepo-19692 ай бұрын
That single clock puts me off
@davidludlow14492 ай бұрын
Twin clocks gone!!! FFS I was gonna buy the new one! Not now. Another Dumb move buy triumph. Look at some old models then. Gutted
@enakki2 ай бұрын
LOL. glad I've got the previous model. just to upgrade chassis and I have the RS. additional HP is just matter of replacing the stock fuel map.
@clivep5002 ай бұрын
I can’t help but think the Gen 1 will be seen to be the cream of the crop.
@evandrotescarollo1773Ай бұрын
A minha speed twin 1200 2023 já é fantástica. A rs mudará a história dessa motocicleta. Espero ansioso sua chegada no Brasil
@개노답김씨2 ай бұрын
I was waiting the RS for my 2nd bike but just decided just buying a used and tune it. The digital board sucks for real.
@nl50952 ай бұрын
Great to see the ongoing development of this platform. Not a fan of the Trident derived instrument cluster, but do like the added features it provides.
@joshtacker95312 ай бұрын
The new RS model.should have been a refresh to the 2nd gen Speed Twin. You had it nailed with the styling and now it's ruined. Update the frame, suspension, brakes, engine... but leave the rest alone. The new dash, tank, and headlight are hideous and you've effectively killed the sales of the Speed Twin.
@lordpunter61882 ай бұрын
Looks like the one clock is of centre to incorporate key, drive me mad if it is - yeh big mistake dropping twin clocks, prefer the old one !
@emin742 ай бұрын
Well, I guess it is time to get the 2024 model before they are gone for good 🤷🏻♂️
@lcgiv4u2 ай бұрын
Why if going with a screen did you not use the rocket style one? The trident tft is barely functional and looks cheap. Twin tft or one tft one mechanical would have been cool. This sucks
@sandipbhaumik2 ай бұрын
Dash is complete off, no twin meters. No showa for cost cutting and 400 series head lamp for making that bike look extra cheap. Triumph really? From a glance one can think of speed 400 with different colors from the front view. Disappointed with this. Bring back thruxston 1200 RS
@Xlac2 ай бұрын
What’s up with those factory installed dents on the front of the tank?
@bjarneberg48022 ай бұрын
I totally agree, but they are there for the forks, so you can have shorter turn radius.
@Xlac2 ай бұрын
@@bjarneberg4802I would rather have a bigger turning radius than have those dents
@slyman00572 ай бұрын
My 1200XE Scrambler had them, you hardly notice them , but it definitely helps the turning radius.
@tnetroP2 ай бұрын
Wow, what a miss. That single clock is awful. Also what's up with the different peg position forcing you forward like a Thruxton? With these fails it would be better value to buy a used Thruxton which ultimately looks better. Hard pass from me and the Speed Twin 1200 was going to be my next bike. Twin clocks are not negotiable on this bike. It's the essence of it. You clocked up there.
@rottweilerfun95202 ай бұрын
Agreed. I'm now looking for a 24. I can put Ohlins on it.
@IanTed2 ай бұрын
Sorry but it looks a parts bin special now, why did you ditch the twin clocks?
@dmaxcustom2 ай бұрын
Dude, no. Put the clock back. Or at least some better looking TFT. . Ah, I see. They mixed the Thruxthon with the Speed Twin. Smart.
@jacksonopper18232 ай бұрын
Something is seriously wrong with that dash...shouldn't it have 2 gauges, one for RPM and the other for Speed. If it's supposed to look like an older bike, that would be a smart styling choice, this looks too modern.
@karlosh92862 ай бұрын
I still really like the twin clocks on my 2019 Speed Twin ! If you need a bit of LCD/TFT display for the new stuff, have a look at how Kawasaki do it on the Z900RS ! ( but I guess you know that already !)
@dalemeadows2252 ай бұрын
Triumph congratulates itself for being a brand that listens to customers and then makes changes. Obviously not this time. What a balls up
@ukaszKokoszkiewicz2 ай бұрын
2 years ago I was buying a motorcycle, I wanted to buy a triple and I wanted to buy a street triple RS but I couldn't stand this weird wing tachometer. Finally bought XSR 900. What I mean by this story is that you can actually lose clients because of clocks/dashes. The ones you put onto new speed twin 1200 are neither modern nor pretty, they are just stupid. I would even understood if you put small TFT like BMW installs as an option on R19 but noooo, you found this cheap turd and decided that this is a good idea to go with it on your supposedly premium product. BTW headlamp looks weird as well :P.
@stevenelliott54032 ай бұрын
Dreadful, no thanks, if I wanted a more modern looking bike I'd buy Japanese, all you had to do was change the shocks, the tank graphics are embarrassing
@NarendraYadav-ff2sr2 ай бұрын
Twin pod instrument cluster would be nice
@chriswest22902 ай бұрын
Wow. Awesome. This could be my first retro bike
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@chriswest2290 But It Won’t B🤔 Well at least U won’t have any problems n finding one or the color u lk Dealerships will hav plenty sitting around collecting dust✌️✌️
@edfrost15602 ай бұрын
So just a thruxton RS with flat bars?
@brunocarmona49582 ай бұрын
Yes, like the Maserati MC12 is "just" a Ferrari Enzo with styling tweaks. Both awesome!
@simonclare-fu7sx2 ай бұрын
that would have been better
@IamHandsome4u2 ай бұрын
Plz put wired spoke wheels as an option.
@hokiecolt81072 ай бұрын
This is a great looking motorcycle. Love the single clock with the TFT, cruise control, rider modes, quickshifter, Ohlins, Brembo master cyclinder with stylema's , wheels, and IMU! Great job Triumph! Get it to the USA ASAP!
@SquireSCA2 ай бұрын
And who is riding the bike in the video? Is that Stokes? I see GA tags and he is in charge of the press fleet for North America... Just curious.
@vigilant.2 ай бұрын
Congratulations for ruined the retro looking bike , previous version was 😘
@Badylu142 ай бұрын
Nope, sorry, not for me :/ I'll stay with my modified Thruxton 1200 R. This one is not competing at all with the Yamaha XSR 900 GP. Too modern look vs. not really top specs :/ Actually, this move looks more like old day HD marketing policy: "Let's change the old bike a bit and make a great fuzz about it."
@vipahman2 ай бұрын
Rear seat and fender delete would completely transform the looks. And the pricepoint! Whew!
@saintharland55492 ай бұрын
Where did you buy your shirt?
@andrewprice11892 ай бұрын
How about a factory fitted grab rail?
@matthewhaag21382 ай бұрын
@@andrewprice1189 That will push the Price Way Up
@ashishmaharana40162 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to purchase one next year in my country.... u fucked up Triumph, no double clocks means double the downvote from your fans across the globe.
@ZajoSTi2 ай бұрын
That toy clock is downright horrible. They desecrated the bike. The older model comes for the rescue. Otherwise it looks cool. But no twin clocks, means skipping this generation.
@suplexracing16762 ай бұрын
Give us the option of a tophalf combined with the clipons please!
@alkatrajazzldleed47932 ай бұрын
Why is there only two choice of colors ???
@MattKelly-m2k2 ай бұрын
No cruise control on the RS? Come on.
@suplexracing16762 ай бұрын
It’s an option.
@rottweilerfun95202 ай бұрын
Bring back the twin clocks and the red colortank before you start shipping these out or you are going to miss a ton of sales. Don't you people do focus groups ?
@a.d.h.d.92262 ай бұрын
Missing twin clocks kills this bike for me. What a shame...
@mogoduc2 ай бұрын
Price for the RS in Germany: 16.195 Euros!😮
@xorbe22 ай бұрын
All the posters here complaining about the twin clocks ... did any of you all actually own one with those twin clocks? They were terrible, despite looking retro from 10 feet away. Kawasaki did good with a small TFT between twin clocks. Triumph missed the mark on the twin clocks that needed to support modern features. At least the new single gauge will be usable and readable. As good as it is, I don't really want Kawasaki's inline-4 retro that's just a modern sports bike in disguise, I want the Triumph twin-cyl. Or BMW's take on it with their opposed pistons. As long as it's pleasant to use and not Yahama ugly. If you need to stare at your bike in the garage, there's Ducati and Harley.
@TBiker0002 ай бұрын
I sense the choice to replace the twin clocks could be a mistake😂
@HW-kf7hi2 ай бұрын
May ride a bit better, I don't know, but the classic range is not all about performance, there are far better bikes for that. They have ruined the looks. Bad move. The only thing they needed to do was improve the awful steering lock (have they?) and perhaps cruise control. The rest was fine.
@starfighter2952Ай бұрын
Moto gp sissy shift now available. And a USB? Is this motorcycling or a girls' day out?
@shubhampreetsingh75852 ай бұрын
Put twin clocks back 🔙 please
@Divinevisionarygamerz122 ай бұрын
In search of gold,we lost diamond
@raumiosveri95982 ай бұрын
Buscare una triumph del año 2022
@GrantAdams-e3f2 ай бұрын
It's a bonneville, why sports stance? Stupid plastic clock with after thought usb stuck on side. Triumph, you've lost the plot. And too many colours to choose from. And it won't be cheap either.
@VickyGaya3Ай бұрын
Looks like tvs ronin
@c.g.c20672 ай бұрын
no weight loss? where are the old clocks gone? engine maps are useless.