OG vs TUNDRA - CEB vs TOPSON PLAYOFFS - EWC x RIYADH MASTERS 2024 DOTA 2

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OG vs TUNDRA - PLAYOFFS - RIYADH MASTERS x Esports World Cup 2024 DOTA 2
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[@MonsieurLenz]

15:55 goat whitemon cyclone

[@ChefGPTOfficial]

Holy shit i just realized

[@sateusus3890]

​@@ChefGPTOfficialevent the comentators missed it

[@gnolihz]

Pog

[@fajarrahmad8377]

Those 2 tundra's support is just too good

[@UnliRide]

Ramzes actually putting in the work to match his team's pace. Used to be their weakest link.

[@gnolihz]

Agree. Ramzes now improve a lot and much more on the same page than before. That make Tundra so strong this tournament

[@Jupex]

Man i miss Dota Digest, his videos quality was so crisp.

[@skylertan3458]

NO NEED FOR SPOILER BLOCK. YOU GUYS KNOW WHO WON. LET'S WATCH TRUE SIGHT AGAIN

[@Kitwanderer]

💀💀💀💀

[@KhachaturStepanyan]

too many insects in the game 1

[@Crash_Bash_4ever]

😂😂😂😂😂 i dont know but this Made me 😂😂

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

I don't mean to nitpick but Broodmother is not an insect, she's an arachnid but we can still can her a bug.

[@lexais_]

insect meta 😂😂😂

[@nikis1254]

If you say too many arthropods then you would encircle the 4 heroes lol

[@cannnds]

arthropods. brood and sk are arachnids 😅

[@versusbattleph2336]

Pure is the new Miracle- in this generation

[@upgemynd]

That would be Yatoro, not Pure.

[@kannanmaxx2769]

It's not about Carry all about support Look how Miracle is doing now

[@diegomaradona19999]

how whitemon not feeding in game 2 such a good move from him .many pplayer will lose with that draft vs clock and monkey should be hard for chen

[@camcantrun]

Timado getting picked over and over and over and over and over on bad positioning really hurt to watch.

[@rac8153]

Highest number of deaths for a pos 1 at both DL 22 and Birmingham strikes again

[@thanagorn6600]

Well timado is not good enough for being in OG , he is just tgere cause ari recommend him cause he is gay

[@someonefromnowhere6473]

I've never seen a carry farming as fast as pure... WTH guys.. Even in losing games he's top networth.. Maybe the best carry right now. What a monster!!

[@nothinphasesme5573]

While I'm not discrediting pure as a very good carry player, you gotta remember he's playing brood. The fastest farming hero in the game right now so not unexpected.

[@evgeniymeteliza8506]

Yatoro last year. Not now though.

[@kepaso7471]

Pure magic !

[@someonefromnowhere6473]

@@nothinphasesme5573 Did i say anything about brood? Look at his games.. His farming patterns are the most efficient no matter what hero he played

[@hood4364]

Then you dont watch too many games apparently, k1 farms way faster than Pure even though Pure is still better

[@Vaizard90]

Timado just keeps getting caught out and dying. The rest of OG is playing so well.

[@hancvetan]

Timado throwing like every OG game....

[@Crash_Bash_4ever]

This Tundra team is like OG 2018 2019 was They both have Topson They both had super carry player ana/pure They both hade super carry 4 player that protect topson all the Time JeraX/9Class and both Really talented 5 pos Notail/whitemon only diff is Mabey ceb and ramzez my fav team i hope They win Ti and this tournament🏆

[@rac8153]

Ramses is the weakpoint by far, his laning phase is sometimes atrocious. Rest is great, wouldnt be surprised with a top 4 finish at TI for this Tundra

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

​@@rac8153 Because even if months has passed now, he was primarily a pos 1 pro for so long. I think he'll get better at it eventually though.

[@Crash_Bash_4ever]

@@rac8153 my fear With him is that he is not a true pos 3! He more like to play pos1 but this is his chance to play With 4 super good players , so if he is okay With being pos 3 Mabey it can work i hope

[@kepaso7471]

@@Crash_Bash_4ever you need time man to understand things on pro level especially if you played most of the time on the different position. He is learning and growing now .

[@4ngeIwing]

15:53 wildkin push to break tree into nyx vendetta on ck + double impale. Tundra supports are insane.

[@bxrxxy]

chen use wildwing hurricane to CK and its break the tree into nyx, following by ceb having shock to see that combo and he decide to run away but failed.

[@wildanilham3795]

tundra is more OG than OG itself

[@Foolofatook]

Basically uploaded before the game finished

[@rac8153]

Kind of easy to predict the result. OG pos 1 got caught first every teamfight and chain fed in game 2, wisper was lost, Ari was MIA after 10 min, only saving grace was BZM TA 9 kills in game 2. OG is just a mess

[@tpman455]

@@rac8153 and even bzm jumped on nyx without bkb and fed

[@rac8153]

@@tpman455 That was Ceb initiate while TA bkb is on cd. Bzm should have pinged it so Ceb dont go full kuroky

[@mtj8525]

Topsons hero pool is not the usual mid heroes. Up to now im still wondering if he ever uses heroes like storm, TA, SF, ember

[@iphonediboy4510]

boring game for him i guess

[@weliketotastethelove]

His storm is really good, see WEU qualifiers. He's versatile and can pick anything his team needs. Pretty strong mid.

[@zinpin2210]

He spammed Storm in TI Qualifying, They first pick multiple times, but ember and SF didn't get pick often and i think Topias didn't like TA that much

[@khishigocean]

He indeed plays ember and storm in pro games, but I've never seen him playing either TA or SF

[@mtj8525]

I know hes is a top tier midlaner. There were even tournaments where i saw him use earth spirit and oracle as mid heroes. He is by far the most daring.

[@veev969]

Really feel like not enough people are talking about Pure. I'm starting to think he's the best carry right now.

[@xavierdupontdeligonnes1024]

but still a *pure* retard (Z incident dont forget)

[@bugoy4482]

He literally is the best carry right now so far

[@rac8153]

He is the best performing pos 1 in the world for sure. Him and Topson are the scariest duo pos 1/pos 2 in the scene

[@wtfgadget]

@@xavierdupontdeligonnes1024 context ?

[@Spongebob-tb7sr]

@@wtfgadgetduring a pause, he drew a z in the minimap, which during that time, was a symbol for pro-war sentiments in the Russia-Ukraine conflict

[@ArmiUlania]

Tundra drafter really good

[@alwaysradical1613]

I felt draft matchups were okay, but tundra just better at team play once lanes break down. And ofc brood op

[@IwaWa-vk9bl]

I don't know that you can play dota 2 with 4 player, it's og's new strat then

[@mrnice553]

C in OG stand for consistency.😂

[@vincenttran621]

Broadcaster: ThIs IsNt FAIR InSaTiable HuNGErrrr

[@ericrios-r3y]

OG has enough skill to win against everyone, problem is Timado and Whisper are REALLY inconsistent, they either crush the game or throw the game.

[@Gu9udan24]

Playful Whitemon and cheeky 9Class are exciting to watch

[@arsyadimamul9180]

All that Og's good works on early game vanished because That potato head Timado 😂😂😂

[@garethacap1264]

Every Tundra game PURE: BROODMUMMY

[@Daemus_TV]

7uckingmad seems upset when the taunts get thrown back

[@sleduju37p]

Crazy how both 9Class and Whitemon improved under Topsons (?) leadership. Also Timado, non-factor in both games. Same as Wisper. Can OG still change them before the TI? Bring Miracle in.

[@jasongo5821]

Nah topson wouldn't be IGL-ing I don't think so

[@NoMirage]

Timado is better than Miracle though? What are you talkikg about

[@urekmazino5125]

no ti for OG. after riyadh im not sure if theres any major tournaments that they can participate. hopefully ceb retires

[@fikrihaykalamien4887]

Og didn't qualify this time

[@bismarcklombard1778]

whitemon captain

[@stann6280]

Spoiler shield 🛡️

[@nebunezz_r]

Og wasted money on Timado and Wisper lmfao.

[@qreadly8430]

9Class more like First Class 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@FrozenCappuccino]

This is the worst performance ive seen on Timado, is he drunk or smth

[@thanagorn6600]

He was bad since 2020 , this is not a surprise

[@Dazen101]

I've never seen Ceb more French than in that thumbnail

[@ahmadsyafika7457]

Pure tier S carry, no doubt

[@oscardavemanalo5283]

pure in position 1 so damn good

[@horse-4598]

Bzm plz don’t play TA ever again

[@boratbruno4947]

These commentators are more entertaining that the eurocup were

[@stoicarchitect]

Why do casters always say “Necromonicon” instead of “Necronomicon”..

[@TheDookielove]

10:35 Tim is tired of cebs long winded pep talks

[@jankku5639]

EZ4GODSON TRUE OG MAGIC

[@user-wp7pb4yn2o]

timado always the first to die, dont know if it is bad luck or tundra is too good

[@rac8153]

He has terrible stats for a pos 1 for the whole 2024, especially when not on Morph. When teams start banning his best champion, he has atrocious laning phase, dmg and deaths stats while taking massive ressources

[@Leostyle123]

Lol ceb no impact and still use chat try to trashtalk

[@palwansadik7826]

How dare you question two time ti winner

[@anpham605]

@@palwansadik7826 Ceb is so toxic. Topson is the real 2 times TI winner.

[@palwansadik7826]

@@anpham605 chill buddy, we’re on the same team 😅

[@MyNameIsMaxLo]

Why Whitemon cut his hair? whyyyyy

[@kennyyong1060]

Spoiler block

[@Gabrielbarsch]

Damn topson looking handsome in that thumb

[@pillowhead4456]

Thank you Tundra for putting OG in its place that is, the garbage bin

[@F0R3ST1230]

I hope OG notices how bad brewmaster of a hero is. His win rate on this tournament is not a coincidence

[@crisoliver-by3ql]

Og's decision of letting yuragi and ammar ultimately costed them. Og right now is mediocre asf. Go to the airport and go home already

[@shin29534]

Yuragi is on a tier 2 team they are better with timado lmao they can't even qualify with yuragi. Ammar was their mistake he is the bess pos 3 rn

[@horse-4598]

Ammar yes, yuragi who cares

[@zymethamp6596]

I love it. They literally survived Play-ins + Group stage against the best teams in the world in the biggest tournament this year AND got seeded Upper Bracket. They lose a series and some 2k trashlord is gonna educate them on what made them lose 😂😂😂

[@idl1228]

@@zymethamp6596 EXACTLY 😂

[@jhdivina]

yuragi? even dogshit timado is better. never seen a pro morphling player make so many mistakes with his attribute shifting

[@nnk9305]

Why do people talk shit to the losing Team? OG is good but Tundra is just way out of their league,... It's not THAT easy to beat Tundra Just give credit to both Teams

[@kurumi2159]

I think OG is quite strong aswell. If OG was in this upcoming TI they would be a threat to any other teams

[@ungabunga345]

Negativity bias. They could see LeBron dunk on a 5 yr old and react: "5 yr old so bad. Give up"

[@nnk9305]

@@ungabunga345 That's the worst analogy fgs A 5yo kid doesn't even had any experience in Pro-Basketball whatsoever If that's the case the best analogy would be Lakers w/ LeBron James vs Any Rookie Pro-Team in Basketball without any Superstars Those Rookie Team are good better than any Tier 3 or non-Pro-Team but out of league against Lakers with LeBron in it

[@nnk9305]

@@ungabunga345 Worst analogy by far,... You're comparing a Pro-Basketball player over just a kid, What's best analogy would've been Lakers w/ LeBron James against Rookie Team with no superstars yet The Rookie Team is good but Lakers w/ LeBron in it is just out of league

[@ungabunga345]

@nnk9305 First off, I was agreeing with you. Secondly, I wasn't making analogy. I was making a statement about the average negative DOTA watcher.

[@youngattorney3722]

Really want to support Tundra because of Topson but 9class is just so unlikeable.

[@stelekenekumized]

Context bro. I have not been following the dota scene for awhile

[@JamesMoriarty007]

hes just a brat just like ATF, but thats pro scene every years always have spicy player that surely plays really-really good dota

[@fajarrahmad8377]

But actually 9class is a good support

[@sateusus3890]

that whitemon does something too 15:15

[@hritwikdey5556]

Finally man, I want to support for Topson, but man he must have a patience of a saint for being able to deal with 9class, Pure and Ramzess, they are good players no doubt, but they are brats man

[@Arul7X]

the games were toxic. love it

[@retroplusofficial]

when OG has taiga to throw but can't still even know how to win

[@iamyourstepbro5461]

Pure deserves to win this trophy

[@haziq12ish]

Fast from ua

[@vethitoruho1516]

Is it just me or even with you guys the commentators are bored af comparing to lively energetic old days commenting

[@JesperEliasson-el9ti]

yeah these casters are pretty bad

[@YantoWest]

You're getting old grandpa

[@vethitoruho1516]

@@YantoWest yeah so wat grandson you'll get old one day

[@YantoWest]

@@vethitoruho1516 yeah one day, but right now I'm just fine, I'm still able to find excitement in things I like, not grumpy, still able to understand that "back then" casters are both as boring and as exciting too but we only remember the best one from "back then" because of nostalgia.

[@32f32f]

Imagine tipping an back to back ti winner 😂

[@kotaro3684]

what it gon do

[@bradg.2944]

They crushed Wisper so hard on both games. WP TUNDRA

[@GhaziannoorFathin]

Godson

[@emikomina]

Of all dota players ever, Ceb deserves the most hate

[@SmokeMondayy]

Most accomplished player ever keep hating dog

[@hood4364]

@@SmokeMondayy not everyone cares only about player's achievements bro we arent 10iq og fangays bandwagoners

[@upgemynd]

@@SmokeMondayy Yatoro Collapse Miposhka Mira are all > Ceb

[@Test-mq8ih]

​@@SmokeMondayyTeam Spirit roster:

[@tysonator111]

Spoiler Shield

[@supperman4261]

OG now is a tier 3 team

[@technowdayid4789]

100% emotional damage

[@loadingloading3391]

topson is back

[@Vinisito]

timado early bkb? wtf

[@julz6077]

15:29 Timad0

[@Panelium]

Timado doing some 322

[@carlfranzregala3182]

carry diff. timado as your carry? pffft

[@ahlok4682]

Omg Mohd Topson is god

[@Heatedchaos117]

haters haters haters, why do yall even watch lol

[@qwerykk1410]

just for shit talk i guess?

[@diandora9151]

Cuz they betting on these match

[@Heatedchaos117]

@@diandora9151 trueeeeeee

[@ThunderBlitz117]

Timado did nothing in game 2

[@thexgamer8240]

OG will never be able to win against the current Tundra.

[@tommasopisapia7464]

False, OG took a game off the best teams in the world, if they can do that they can beat tundra

[@huzaifi5436]

@@tommasopisapia7464 False, current best team

[@jaysonabayan8705]

a reasonable statement. but we can't ever assume the word "Never" based on 2 matches that they have played. we could only say that term if numerous matches have been played and OG wasn't able to win 1 game against them.

[@tommasopisapia7464]

@@huzaifi5436 what does this even mean?

[@Crash_Bash_4ever]

This current tundra is like old OG 2018 2019 !

[@wuttichai292]

Tunda have 9class but Og have no class. Sad to watch Og become team like this.

[@scionaku5662]

Game 2 timado nonexistent performance.

[@RandomizedBurner]

insanely unhinged comments

[@yfrank5919]

what a meme game, good win for tundra but ramzes almost throwing those two games for not being in the teamfight twice

[@theprogbrahims6085]

happy to see og lose

[@James-ki3ex]

bro CEb is failing in the readings to the enemy team, OG is still an active team to watch but they are also ceasing to look solid

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

OG WILL NEVER WIN AGAIN,. UNLESS THEY MAKE TOPSON AS THEIR MIDLANER,. TOPSON IS ONE OF THE BEST MIDLANER WHEN IT COMES TO SPACE MAKER FOR CARRIES,.

[@noutinkristina-bg9vk]

They waste such good talent topson,atf and DM now playing relly good on entity,falcon and tundra

[@ero-samairianto625]

It's not that easy man,remember when topson carry that OG team with sumail as their carry? He got picked off so many times, sumail can't get proper farm, and ceb is losing his edge. Time's changing, new meta new roosters with superior talent, etc. Im just glad with Topson as where he is now

[@pekaralte2775]

💯

[@markermarque9843]

@@noutinkristina-bg9vk if Ceb's ego could just handle Ammar, they would be one of the strongest team...

[@cian8531]

@@markermarque9843 OG chose Yuragi and Misha over ATF. ATF, BZM and Yuragi could've won more if they stayed together longer, imo. Misha and ATF had battles of ideas.

[@NIKILSHARAN]

Everyone hating on Timado when bzm was as 0 impact as timado on both games.

[@BanaNutz_Gaming]

It's time to blow it up again OG. Their biggest mistake was letting Amar walk away!

[@Maniacu666]

Yep, the moment they let ATF go and kept the retarded coach was the downfall of the team. Look at ATF now, winning tournaments and havign fun playing the game while OG is qualifying to tournaments only when others drop out

[@fauzanahladzikri]

why bzm didnt pop his bkb in game 2??

[@dimasgedmil1005]

Insect meta

[@palwansadik7826]

Og fanboys start your performance with blaming bzm, timado, ari . Two ti winner doesn’t deserve this 😂😂😂

[@alfredracal7491]

Can somone explain to me what SPOILER BLOCK is?

[@theaccelerator3342]

You immediately see the top comment when you open the video without open the comments section, usually the top comment gives you spoiler who win Make the "Spoiler Block" comment as a top comment so other peoples won't get spoil when opening the video

[@jaysoncimara7063]

Seems like OG is doing online gaming bets.... Those bzm and timado chokes are too obvious....

[@poker3276]

Don't linger taiga's issue. It's just a chain of unfortunate plays. I believe they wanna make most out of this tournament to boost their morale since they didn't make TI this year. Also, of all games, why would you want to throw a playoff game?

[@Maniacu666]

@@poker3276 Cuz they get some great cash from it? I mean, u cant pick Weaver hard carry 1st game after Nyx vs Brood and in 2nd game letting Brood again with no way to counter it. If this was a pub, Weaver last pick vs all they had was a grief pick, nothing to do with wanting to play / win the map

[@jaysoncimara7063]

​@@poker3276 23:25 timestamp. Look how bzm throws himself infront of 5 enemies. A normal rank archon and up will never do that. Even timado has a couple of lapses which resulted for unexpected deaths. Been watching games of timado and he never plays like that. Something fishy..

[@shin29534]

U dumb? Their odds is higher and the prizepool is literally q million+ bucks they would never throw ret

[@clintlagumbay8591]

i have watch a lot of og games and i see timado always getting out of position and being average in the lane and i also see often the he get out carries by the opposing sides

[@inspectormeals5298]

Bzm is the weak link here

[@pwhypiano]

Man that Tomato guy is suck both in 2 games, wth that carry different is so far, how can a carry die so easly

[@slaughtered777]

It's almost like 2 out of Timado, BZM or Whisper take turns to completely shit the bed. In any game, 2 of them are completely hopeless and abysmal. I think ceb needs to take that into account that it's not the famous 5 anymore, this 'tilting' chatwheel doto only works when you have a functioning 5. Just kick Whisper & Timado out already, and throw BZM into a bootcamp or two.

[@battsengelsunjidmaa553]

Timado throwed game 1

[@ekstrapirates]

Pure stil alive?

[@patrik_kanka]

he is monster

[@stayindoors1890]

Does this channel only show OG games?

[@markermarque9843]

Yup, Topson carried Ceb on both TI's... 😂😂

[@Crash_Bash_4ever]

I want Ceb back to Pos 3

[@peacefulmind1771]

ceb played pretty good this series, timado f**ked up

[@angryralphs2516]

Ceb destroyed OG. He didn't let Ana return. Selfish credit grabber.

[@Zeela-ey4fq]

SPOILER BLOCKER. 😊

[@user-je1nv7su5l]

Topson playing against OG doesn’t seem right

[@stephanr3708]

The main commentator is always sooooo far away from the mic

[@The5car]

Timado died again and again))

[@alvinchavez1356]

Timado doesn't fit with OG's other cores.

[@bxrxxy]

timodo looks sus

[@Farisss11]

og think they still had a chance LMAO funny people

[@EJ-eh1dr]

fuckin Timado they could have won game 2