THE CODCAST #5 WITH NAMELESS, MAVEN, MERK, CLAYSTER AND TOMMEY

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS THE TALENT SIDE OF CALL OF DUTY, THE STATE OF EUROPEAN COD AND THE FUTURE OF COD ESPORTS.
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[@jsmovies099]

Tommey is a really likable guy

[@sheldonjones3921]

Johnny Bats he’s a prick, he called me c*nt cuz I told people in his chat that Skrapz has gone to red. He didn’t chill with his team and played the waiting game with Unilad so he could get on red. Now he won’t make a league team. He is a knob head.

[@readcastor2977]

Kung fu hustle lol

[@mysticmouse7673]

Nameless, having you as part of the casting/analysis talent is, to me, exactly right. You really add a lot. You're a natural. Look forward to seeing you behind that desk!

[@conor1940]

Myopic Mouse facts

[@jsmovies099]

If they drop Karma 3 rings i’ll support whatever team he’s on i don’t care

[@coryfowler7059]

Johnny Bats I don't see why everyone has hyped up karma. He's been carried his whole career. He's never been the best player on a winning team. He is like Dennis Rodman of the bulls, or Klay Thompson of the Warriors. And when the team doesn't win, it shows how bad he really is bc people are actually paying attention to single performances.

[@jsmovies099]

Cory Fowler this is the exact thing someone who has no knowledge of COD history would say. He was “carried” to 3 rings? He wasn’t the best player on any of those teams? Must have a short memory buddy. Fariko, by far the best player on that team and arguably the best BO2 player of all time. Complexity, Karma was an AR slayer, singlehandedly outperformed every other AR at Ghost champs with PAT on his team. And IW Champs. Go watch any single SND or Uplink map they played where damon is being “carried”. I know this is a long response and you’re going to respond with something autistic saying i’m wrong but I promise you buddy real fans have been here long enough to know what they’re talking about

[@jsmovies099]

Youri Not at all roasting Aches I capitalized because everyone knows he’s a boots legend. Karma was the best BO2 player IMO but the keyword in the response was arguably.

[@CRanch__198]

Cory Fowler bro what you talking about they only won iw champs cos he turned the fuck up for that event he straight hard carried fariko in bo2 and on col he was fucking dominant

[@icegloves7777]

Johnny Bats same

[@Dabl197]

Can we talk about how drunk Clint was?

[@mattwalters6834]

Dan Bloom I don’t know all of the competitive players; could you tell me which one he is please? Thank you.

[@mattwalters6834]

MOXIE thanks

[@alvinsampsonjr4197]

So in conclusion: nadeshot is the grandaddy of call of duty! Follow his formula... it’s the right way to revive cod.. no matter how snarky or dirty of looks Mevan gives when he is brought up... the man is jello!!

[@hmmmhm4918]

yuuup. Nade did it perfectly. Scump was killing it in game and on YT for years as a close 2nd but uhhhh recently thats changed

[@tragstank]

Tommey is what pro's should aspire to be... speaks intelligently and is grounded compared to a lot in the NA scene. Blanket statement but he's been the best guest on this podcast so far

[@samturner9544]

55:10 Formal to LG, which means Octane to OG.

[@buckles6195]

🤯🤯🤯

[@CRanch__198]

Sam Turner it does not mean that cos optic aren't under contract so they can just say they don't want to play with that team and optic can't do shit to them. Formal can join any team he wants he has no contract obligations

[@samturner9544]

It's a straight trade, MerK knows everything about roster changes. I also know as I am friends with a couple of pros. Trust me, Octane is on OG and Formal is on LG. ZooMaa was going to go to OpTic, but FaZe counter offered the contract. So now OpTic are looking for a different 4th.

[@ImExotiic]

i noticed that too, i say formal to lg octane to og, karma to faze zooma to optic

[@tuurogames8308]

john

[@flatearthgaming3756]

Clay's the codburner 💯

[@chickenfkeryay]

Always appreciate mavens insight. He doesnt hold his tongue or try and be pc towards the pros even tho hes friends with a lot of them. One thing i was hoping to hear from tommey would be his thoughts on moving to NA to open up his potential for playing w other teams outside of red/splyce if the region selection wasnt an issue.

[@CRanch__198]

chickenfkeryay teams won't take the risk un less he has a visa sorted it to much hassle for the org to sort out he would have to sort him self first

[@chickenfkeryay]

Its cool that tommey and skrapz are open to moving to NA. It seems like theyre the minority that would move to the us but i could be wrong.

[@ApathyBZ]

SILLY IS THE FREAKING BEST BABY

[@sergihr]

Apathy BZ 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

[@sergihr]

Apathy BZ u r dda goat

[@TygeRCOD]

Best episode so far, so much info.

[@kyguygaming6891]

I am an optic fan but I hope whatever team karma gets traded to wins cod champs just to shut all the haters up. I'm sick of people who just started watching mlg saying karma sucks when he's the clutchest player of all time.

[@readcastor2977]

oneindachamberlin they would not have won champs last year without him! He clutched and went off big time in both grand finals matches. 3 rings for a reason. Let the haters hate!

[@mr.martin6243]

I LOVE these podcasts man!! Keep up the great work Nameless!

[@edlabarre]

Another great CODCast. Switching up the guest is great. Everyone has been a great addition.

[@ohhbliviousgaming]

Tommey - "You lose out on the thing josh brings, its hard to explain" Nameless - "Hes the Jkap of Europe" Tommey - "Exactly"

[@Genome69420]

thanks nameless!! keep it up buddy. love this show. you got a fan for life here! 🖤🖤🖤

[@benjaminjamieson2300]

Could we get timestamps in the description?. I'm aware it's a little bit extra work but I would love to be able to skip sections im not really interested in. Keep up the grind bro I repect it.

[@thom9918]

Thats a perfekt Codcast keep going Nameless ;-) entertaining af :-) and very good organized :-)

[@gabrielslater0505]

Tommey's insight is class

[@3brionac]

This was really fun to watch, thanks for reviving cod ANT.

[@ArTicKiiTTiiNs]

Even though this is an hour and a half it still isn't long enough. Love the content brother. Please keep it coming!

[@chandleryawnahr5094]

Absolutely love the cod cast bro nice knowing what goes on inside the pro community other then just random tweets that can be taken any way

[@michaelklose7501]

Damn merk and clay are just pounding beers, this is awesome

[@mr.martin6243]

26:30 can we talk about how Clint and Clay had themselves a little moment? lmaoo

[@pace72]

i didn't even realize that lmaooooooooooo

[@LegitDemod]

Scump and Crim are the Duo, never been an optic fan but always been a fan of them.

[@ricecakejohnson]

Splyce always getting rid of people wayyyyy too fast. Last year they dropped ZERO cause he had a bad event, but the guy has been Splyce's best player most of the events. Now they let Tommey go, and I agree with Clay that Tommey wasnt the problem on Splyce.

[@CRanch__198]

ricecakejohnson too fast are you joking they are one of the most inconsistent high level pro teams there is. But I aggree tommey was not the problem

[@ricecakejohnson]

I m not denying that, Splyce was super inconsistent, but that still doesnt mean you get rid of people after one or two bad events. Zero was overall a pretty decent player for Splyce, and I dont see Tommey doing horrible in most events. Look at how good Zero has been for Red Reserve, before the last event or so, RR was considered the best EU team, and it used to be Splyce.

[@Uvikeh]

Yeah they dropped Zero and now Red Reserve is the best European team, that says a lot imo, Zero is a beast

[@Alesedit]

So true miss those lan recaps , literally no one makes them anymore

[@HeadShotKilla10]

with the ITRA getting added to the meta i think Clay will actually be one of the best players the second half of the year, Clay has always been a burst fire rifler

[@RambinoYT]

I miss trash talk and shouting, just look at Killa and all that. WOOOOOOOH WOOOOOOOH WOOOOOOOH LOOK AT MY BANK ACCOUNT! That shit was so funny

[@ashh9666]

Formal is my favourite player I’ll support whatever team he’s on

[@jaydens8331]

Thanks for getting different guests rather than the same 3 dudes every time

[@yelahero3003]

My dude burning down the house while he's doing a podcast lol

[@tristentokiwa1679]

“That listen in” lmaooo the greatest comeback in cod history.. poor clay and EUnited with the greatest choke of all time

[@ownedweezybaby]

Clint is making me hyped for asshole formal. Also lmao for Clay going "yeah he told me to go fuck myself" 😂

[@undrachevr]

Lol, I lost it when the smoke alarm wenr off and nameless said "my girlfriend is cooking"

[@multeyemeteor]

I think part of the reason that the EU scene is evolving so slowly, is because it doesn't have the incentives. The gap is too large for them to actually finish in the money, and there's barely any local LANs outside of the US and the one in the UK, so you don't have support for the mid-tier players, who could be next in line. France, Spain, and Germany has some events, which they find financing for, and several countries around the world has their own online leagues, but the infrastructure doesn't seem to support regular practice at a high level and access to a knowledge exchange and opponents to scrim at a level that will push the entire scene. The same is true of Australian scene, which almost imploded after having had 2-3 tier one teams and around 5 good tier two teams. The CWL should've been an incentive, but for several Australian players it became the opposite, because there was nothing for them to do (outside of the national online league), so there was nothing that would let them sustain a competitive player's lifestyle, if they didn't qualify for the CWL LAN league, so how do you go on practicing as if it's your job for years and years, when you're not making money. I get that only the best players deserve to win the prices, but if you don't have incentives in different tiered levels, you have no way of supporting upcoming players. That being said, it's going to be really interesting to see what two Aussie teams in the CWL league is going to do for the hunger of Australian players. Mindfreak is far from inconsistent, but they are talented, and Tainted Minds is a solid squad, but might not make much of a dent in a league stacked with the world's best. Hopefully, they will start organizing more LANs themselves, if CWL isn't giving them one, that's what the South Americans are doing, because they are barely even recognized by the CWL.

[@Nbkmac]

multeyemeteor cod just not big in the uk

[@Nbkmac]

Eu*

[@multeyemeteor]

I think it's about as big as it is in the US. CoD is just not that big period. That being said, all the money and most of the orgs are in the US, plus while the population of the EU is more than twice of the US, the EU CoD scene is divided into a number of countries, regions, and orgs that just don't work together all that much.

[@CRanch__198]

No smaller orgs are willing to take a chance look how many events we have had in UK in the past couple of years and the players at mid level of play have no practise it's so difficult to scrims regular and if you destroy a team in the first hard point of a scrim they leave I know that from personal experience. And like the guys said no one is taking risks on players like in NA like tk and nv have with fero on tk and decamate on nv

[@multeyemeteor]

I think the language barriers and the fact that Europe is divided into countries, also makes it so that people rarely want to go to other countries to play. The EU isn't one united scene anymore, it's more like several smaller scenes.

[@Vinseenit]

A fucking smoke alarm

[@nucleartripod2468]

they were talking about on a optic roster with scump, crim, octane and zooma who's gonna be the guy who gets and blocks spawns. Thats the stuff karma was doing and got 0 credit for, he just got shit cuz his K.D wasnt great but his knowledge of the game won them maps. Guys like the zooma, crim, scump, octane aren't gonna wanna do the dirty work and track back for spawns they'll all want to show just how good they are, but a team really needs that player who understands everything and does the dirty work. thats why karma is so good and thats why he has 3 rings

[@Veedseh]

You kept mentioning players that bring something to the team that’s kinda indescribable, is Karma not one of these players? He isn’t a slay heavy player, he isn’t a leader, but he definitely fits the category of bringing something to a team that very few can.

[@nicklewis2826]

He has one of the best cod IQs. He is so intelligent with the game. He also has that clutch factor. He makes plays that nobody expects. His mind just works differently. In other words I agree with you.

[@Veedseh]

Nick Lewis Oh yeah, for sure dude! I think he truly is one of a kind in that regard imo. If I were to drop one player from the current OG roster I’d honestly drop Scump. It seems like a lot of internal issues are with his relationship with Formal, his lack of willingness to get on and grind the game and even move to a location with better net at least. That won’t happen though as he’s ‘Mr Optic’ himself.. lol

[@Veedseh]

SuperStarMcAwesome I agree completely, assuming he has that burning desire to compete still I think he’ll do as you say. I also think that if Formal goes to LG they’re winning champs unless Octane and a top 3 sub/flex joins. Then Optic will have insane slaying power.

[@emmacharlesworth4393]

I agree with every single comment

[@cesare4926]

This was such a great podcast.

[@pocketstom]

they'll regret it as soo as we go back to black ops, they're the four best players in the game on treyarch games

[@Northsidepace]

Haven’t watched cod in a minute but this idea was sick!!

[@user-ss8wh4kk3m]

I really enjoyed this podcast! The viewers weren't as high as a rostermania but the conversations you had about the behind the scenes things that happen for pros and people that work in the community was really interesting. I do feel like nameless you interrupted a little too much in the discussions but i still really enjoyed it. I also would love to see more unknown pros on the codcast that way the community can see the personality of other players. Keep up the great work though!

[@mwm433]

Love tommey my fav European pro of cod

[@valkilmerstoe4104]

learnt something new today, maven can't handle his bud light

[@willtk-9020]

Karma should be in tk to replace methods . He could be the flex and would let accuracy be main ar and karma is actually similar to theory which is something that tk needs

[@jblaineee808]

Love the cod cast!! Keep cod alive ! Appreciate all the commentary you guys do. One question.. at any point would there ever be an open tournament where average players could play against pro players? Just wondering because people I play with are good .. I think really good and have a hard time getting into professional cod

[@pocketstom]

merk repping courage making me happy

[@liamdocherty5857]

Really enjoying the series. Keep it up!

[@Zach603]

OpTic and LG are my favorite teams, so it all works out ;)

[@Toonie2k]

"We are the WWE of esports" - Maven 😂😂😂😂

[@KlipzPlays]

I fucken love maven 😂😂😂

[@sonnyjimtwible]

Is nobody going to comment on the smoke alarm part?Laughed my ass off!

[@nerfroop8307]

I think formal is all about the vibes and if the team isn’t vibing and hasn for awhile he’s not going to try to fix it. He’s just going to do something else

[@nerfroop8307]

I was listening to this half asleep and then thought my house was on fire 🔥 lmao

[@BlvcCat]

I don’t know if you’ve already said anything about this but you should upload to soundcloud too, love the show

[@PSNTobbasch13]

i love this!

[@tempahoriginal1700]

Yo maven just broke me dude 😂 26:48

[@04Mrdynasty]

Why do none of the EU guys try to play for an American team? I feel like Tommey is a much better player than a lot of the American teams

[@julianharrison7193]

Ya it isn't because they don't want to. Also, I think if you register as an EU player at the beginning of the year you can't switch. There was some talk of that with, I think, Shockz but I could be wrong

[@landendelormier7954]

Youri no u don't u just need a work visa.. same as any other esport. There's just region locks at the beginning of the year so whatever region you're in at the beginning you need to stay. And you can switch the year after if you wanted

[@damandy4021]

Super expensive for a team to get the visa and legal stuff sorted. It would have to be a huge talent to be worth it to them.

[@brenden810]

Nameless should go to EU next year he’d be a god

[@DarkYami909]

Sick cod cast again!

[@ahmadnatour2587]

tommey imo is by far the best guest only speaks fax

[@shootinchris1]

the one thing i have an issue with is the 8's comments it might not be an equal idea but look at CS they scrim for a few hours and then they play Rank S or FPL which is literally the same thing as 8s so i dont see the issue with 8s you get reps in on the game and get better

[@lForbidClanl]

What if teams in cod could only play with a team of 4 once every event and then have to switch at least one person on the roster after every event to keep the storylines fresh and save cod. Like so nameless can see and talk about in next cod cast!

[@martint9445]

as much as I love the podcast I feel like I'm missing out not being able to see the twitch chat on youtube

[@brenden810]

Bro Clay owning an org 💯💯💯 oh my

[@AVerySillySausage]

Wait wtf Tommey has been frying and now he's getting fucked over?

[@KamenCider559]

37:45 favorite part 😂

[@scararl3151]

Maven with the Jev headset

[@epicsalvitime8073]

Watched every single ad...I feel like you need that ad revenue LMAO

[@steel2572]

Is it just me or is it weird hearing maven swear? Considering he doesnt when hes casting.

[@steel2572]

I know. That's why im saying it sounds weird on here.

[@stretch141000]

He is absolutely sauced in this podcast

[@edgardogarcia2889]

Preach maven!

[@anthonyvecchiarelli8324]

Keep these up!

[@blackshirts9321]

Does anyone kind of hate the league system. Great teams are disbanding and good players are retiring because they don't make it into the league. I really think the league needs to be expanded and the qualification system needs to be changed.

[@conor1940]

Yes a new system like maybe a full league of 20 teams play each other and then also have the cwl open events imo

[@Alesedit]

blackshirts9321 I hate the 7 or 8 events only now

[@jalanhart]

I think an interesting idea could be that teams need to have two players who were in the league the previous season but not necessarily the same team. So many roster moves can’t happen because teams have to have two of the same players at least, but not restricting them to the same team might help.

[@Nbkmac]

Cod to small for that

[@user-ss8wh4kk3m]

the codfather I think that there should be more teams or more NA teams should be allowed in because teams like epsilon or vitality in season 1 should not be in a pro league. For this game in particular there should be 3 EU teams and 1 APAC team. But if you increase the amount of teams in the league to let's say 20 there are just going to be more that miss the playoffs because I think 8 teams should be the limit for playoffs.

[@multeyemeteor]

Okay, I'm gonna spam. I don't think it should only be up to the players to entertain the fans. The orgs need to be on that. Look at the Team EnVyUs videos, which come out regularly, they are barely about the CoD team, so there's very little for their fans to watch, while OpTic constantly produce content about the organisation and the CoD team. The players should play first, and entertain second... never get it twisted. Sports and eSports alike are about the competition, not about brands. But if the organisations want the players to have fans, they need to produce content and help put the players in a situation, where their skills are in focus first, and then their personalities second.

[@dnatix9306]

Recognize so much from Aches „Plutonium“ Video

[@bazakkhan3378]

Tommey was definitely the best player on splyce

[@mwm433]

On a second thought, epsilon should trade reedy for tommey cause tommey brings experience to the team and he brings better vibes

[@XzGowXz]

Good video, karma on the next codcast?

[@damandy4021]

Sounds like esports psychologists have a big opportunity in CoD to make a case for being important to the scene

[@CRanch__198]

A good question would be who is the most forgotten about pro like mirx sharp people like that

[@skromee]

About the Pro players have to make more content I agree! Especially on KZbin.. the only one who really posts videos is Attach. And if they streamed on KZbin would get alot more viewers. The competitive scene needs to be seen. Watching pub stompers drop V2 rockets is Koo but when they start dying or see another good player on the other team they quit.

[@XxCodGoblinXx]

Ffs I thought that was my fire alarm 😂

[@bynx3959]

Karmas about to fry these fools if he gets dropped

[@t0x1cDr3am]

Can you do time stamps in the future?!

[@alwaysslatkin9294]

Maven

[@mozartinago-kart2678]

octane and tjhaly are the best players right now ...tj should of gone to optic

[@ownedweezybaby]

I miss the shit talking in CoD lol

[@kipperr3]

Make the long cast you can so I can get through work days without hearing co-workers!

[@DanielJayTaylor]

Dope!

[@WhiteChoclateCrew]

You need Time stamps related to topics

[@declanriley5923]

Scrapz to red reserve for joshh and $80k

[@playaself1071]

At 55 minutes 30 seconds did joe say formal to lg? Then cough

[@brenden810]

Any1 remember the TL squad from bo3??? I want like another team like that.. but comes thru in champs

[@loomynarty4099]

If the drop Formal they will regret it. I dont know if they're stupid enough to do so, I think Matt just wants to leave on his own.

[@pace72]

octane is the better player and has been for a while now, so optic def made the better deal with that trade

[@loomynarty4099]

Uh no absolutely not. Its the same trend just like in IW Octane was better but come champs time Formal shows up. Octane is not that much better than Formal in this game if at all. Yes Octane has better placings but that doesnt tell the whole story. I can get if someone just plain said Octane is better, but to be delusional and say that hes been better for a while is pretty ridiculous.

[@CRanch__198]

Formal can leave whenever he wants none of the optic cod team are under contract from what I know of

[@loomynarty4099]

Like I said I think he wants to leave on his own, like I doubt that they are dropping him. I wouldn't blame him either.

[@shoxggz645]

I actually love maven so much 😂 really miss him being along side courage 😩

[@scaredycat2164]

Upload on the podcast app please!

[@skromee]

Nameless. Can u tell Call Of Duty to stream the Pro League tournaments and playoffs on KZbin not everyone goes on twitch. There was a youtuber who did stream it but got his stream suspended. But Call Of Duty doesn't even stream the pro league on KZbin themselves. But if they stream it with all there followers it would make the CWL more known and bigger.

[@tyrussell05]

Ayyy Nameless

[@mikejhensley7518]

Intel 55:10

[@imcozmik7492]

MikeJHensley FORMAL TO LUM HOLY FUCK

[@mikejhensley7518]

Im Cozmik haha Lum *coughs*

[@coryfowler7059]

We've known that for days

[@mikejhensley7518]

MikloTopSlaya Dude ur so cool