Top 15 Best Underdog Stratagems, Weapons, and Boosters for Helldive Difficulty

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Top 15 Best Underdog Stratagems, Weapons, and Boosters for Helldive Difficulty
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0:00 hi
0:03 HMG & Shield Emplacement
0:35 Recoilless Rifle
1:04 Airburst Strike
1:47 Ballistic Shield
2:32 500kg
2:50 Precision Strike
3:33 Supply pack
3:49 Eat-17 & Railgun (use eat with other support weps)
4:39 Tesla Tower
6:02 Double Barrel Shotgun
6:14 Jar-5 Dominator
6:52 Vitality Boost
7:04 Jump Pack
7:38 Incendiary Breaker
7:53 Gatling Sentry
8:24 Machine Gun Sentry
9:00 Gatling sentry again
9:28 AutoCannon Sentry
10:21 AutoCannon & Rocket Sentry
10:43 Thanks for Watching

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@HardcoreQtip
@HardcoreQtip 24 күн бұрын
Airburst Strike is low key S tier against bugs. Throw that sucker on every breach you see and everything but the bile titans be getting mulched. I'm the only one I ever see run it, and I can consistently get 200+ more kills than my squadmates with it.
@JohnGrahamDoe
@JohnGrahamDoe 24 күн бұрын
It's become a staple of all my bug runs o7 My go-to is Airburst, 500KG, Auto-Cannon/Orbital Precision Strike, and EATS
@BackwardsPancake
@BackwardsPancake 24 күн бұрын
I guess the most coherent argument against it is that the Gas strike clears most of the small stuff even more consistently on a way better cooldown. And the fact that it kills chargers is nice and all, but you basically need to pair it with stuns to make that viable given how much chargers can move around, and you're probably still going to need to bring some other charger counter anyway since the cooldown is way too long to handle the volume of chargers on higher difficulties.
@63Limar
@63Limar 24 күн бұрын
Issue is that breach has like 3-4 spawns of bugs and burst only clears 1, it's short. I feel like after fire upgrade is fixed napalm strike for this case is much better. While it's not fixed - cluster bombs
@elanvital9720
@elanvital9720 24 күн бұрын
You are not alone. Airburst gang.
@HardcoreQtip
@HardcoreQtip 23 күн бұрын
@@63Limar Problem is bile spewers take like no damage fire even without the bug. Airburst kills them in one blast. Try delaying your throw until like 5 seconds into the breach to hit most of the waves
@gabeperras3711
@gabeperras3711 24 күн бұрын
My favorite part about the gatling sentry is that like all other sentries it focuses on the larger enemies such as bile titans and chargers despite not being able to penetrate their armour.
@Damiandc1440
@Damiandc1440 23 күн бұрын
Mf is just shooting the wrong ammo 😢
@Propersciguy
@Propersciguy 23 күн бұрын
Really? In my experience it shoots little guys even if big is around. TLDR it prioritizes chaff.
@DanielLazzara
@DanielLazzara 23 күн бұрын
The mountable HMG needs a buff fr
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 23 күн бұрын
@@DanielLazzara ????? It can kill Everything. Maybe not A Bile titan to the face or a Tank from the front but it can. Probably getting a AT Cannon in the future anyway.
@Angel-uh7kj
@Angel-uh7kj 23 күн бұрын
That's is not true it avoids shooting chargers
@Evan-mt7bc
@Evan-mt7bc 23 күн бұрын
Omega underrated is the Melee, I'd bet at least half the people who play the game have ever even pushed the melee button. You can parry the Hunter jump with a melee, Hunter flying at you just clock it in the head and it will stagger back then you just pop a quick dome. Little automaton bots also die in 2 and the melee doesn't alert enemies to you. If you're playing stealth you can kill small bots before they can alert their allies. You're able to sneak into bases and as long as there isn't anything bigger than a small bot between you and the objective you can get in completely undetected, actually incredible for Strategem Jammers. It's niche as hell but it's amazing in the right situations. Another underrated weapon is the Redeemer in single fire mode. If you need a weapon that can just kill the small guys it's pretty amazing, pairing it with an unruly weapon like the Eruptor, Jar 5 or Slugger which isn't very good against the small units is great. It's just an extremely reliable weak headshot weapon that can kill infinite small bots, Scavengers and Hunters. I bet most people use the Redeemer in full auto mode to burst down medium tier units like Meat Saws and Brood Commanders but using it like the basic pistol is extremely underutilized and can filter out the Stalwart in more builds than not. Smokes against Bots is also really underutilized. The secret is to throw it when you're next to a LOS blocker then duck behind the sight blocker and run away, pairing it with stealth armor will let you escape so many situations.
@poom323
@poom323 23 күн бұрын
Each weapon have different melee damage and range as well.
@sea-drake
@sea-drake 23 күн бұрын
TIL the redeemer has a single fire setting. I will absolutely vouch for melee against bugs though, can be a lifesaver if your mags are empty.
@Tenmo8life
@Tenmo8life 24 күн бұрын
The AR Guard Rover NEEDS medium armor pen, because its just wasting ammo. It would make it viable but still not even close to broken
@JohnGrahamDoe
@JohnGrahamDoe 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, let's swap the Liberator for the base MG on the AR Dog!
@Tenmo8life
@Tenmo8life 23 күн бұрын
@@JohnGrahamDoe Or the Liberator Penetrator.......... MG is abit too big my guy
@KageRyuu6
@KageRyuu6 23 күн бұрын
Rover has a heavily modified Scythe, Guard Dog has a Liberator with 30rnd mags. With that cleared up, certainly not against giving the Guard Dog a Penetrator, but if you kill Medium and Heavy targets faster it'll waste less ammo on them.
@AnInsaneOstrich
@AnInsaneOstrich 23 күн бұрын
or have it get magazines back from the regular ammo boxes you find at Points of Interest instead of only from resupplies, just so it has more ammo to waste
@Tenmo8life
@Tenmo8life 23 күн бұрын
@@AnInsaneOstrich THIS works aswell
@Veggie6Nubz
@Veggie6Nubz 23 күн бұрын
Another busting thing for supply pack is that if you use all of the supplies for your friends, you dont need to supply yourself before taking the resupply. It refills both the normal supply AND the backpack. So unload those grenade pistols like they are a true support weapon and have fun ALWAYS being topped off.
@derrzzyaboi6527
@derrzzyaboi6527 23 күн бұрын
yeah or give it too a teammate thats about to resupply from a pod so he/she can resupply your pack
@SPACE_BOOOOOST
@SPACE_BOOOOOST 24 күн бұрын
Autocannon sentry claps cheeks for days. With good placement it can mow down multiple Titans and Chargers, plus it takes aggro from you and the homies. Been crutching on it since AH made the Quasar fire only once every leap year.
@achillesa5894
@achillesa5894 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I bring it a lot and it's 100% position dependant. One simple way to get more value out of it is to just yeet it as far away from the bugs as you can. It's gonna take some time to turn around but it will be much safer. It's also great for setting up before assaulting a nest or when a bug breach triggers, especially on high ground.
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster 23 күн бұрын
Autocannon is pretty good... when it works. As you could see in the autocannon part, it sometimes doesn't kill Bile Titans as fast, leading to it being destroyed. It also has an abysmal turn rate, unlike gatling
@Palgrave
@Palgrave 23 күн бұрын
Every single time someone runs a autocannon sentry it ends up killing me, either with a direct hit or by launching me into danger
@adambielen8996
@adambielen8996 23 күн бұрын
With good placement and you keeping enemies off of it the Autocannon Sentry is indeed amazing. But that can be a lot to ask sometimes. Still is easily my favorite turret.
@Crispy_DAWG
@Crispy_DAWG 23 күн бұрын
My favorite is to run it with the padded light armor because i can train the group of bugs while it puts in the work
@muffinman6136
@muffinman6136 24 күн бұрын
I’ve been using recoilless rifle since I unlocked it, still using it on most missions and I’m lvl 125. Such a fun weapon to use, and it’s so powerful. Really strong having an anti tank shot every 3 ish seconds in d9 for both bots and bugs. Pairs really well with sentries (specifically Gatling sentry) too since you can take out all the big stuff while the turret does the rest. Does require practice though to get the positioning optimized.
@biggreen8025
@biggreen8025 24 күн бұрын
I think "really strong" and "powerfull" it's a bit much, it's just an AT launcher who does it's job nothing special but usefull (if u don't play solo and not get swarmed whenever u wanna reload)
@FriHo245
@FriHo245 24 күн бұрын
Not a fan of it bots personally, might be because i play solo/duo, but i feel like you need something for hulks way more often than RR can provide. Im an autocannon/laser cannon guy myself. For bugs i prefer EATs, but there's definitely a reason to use RR (especially with team reload)
@jacksondurhan1999
@jacksondurhan1999 24 күн бұрын
Landing the one-shot on a hulk with it is the best feeling.
@wasteplace1705
@wasteplace1705 24 күн бұрын
I gotta try using it again, the reload timing always put me off of using it but it should be better now that it’s a lil faster
@lodestar536
@lodestar536 24 күн бұрын
I've always been a recoilless lover. Now a days I use the airburst rockets
@roymain36
@roymain36 24 күн бұрын
I think the eagle strafing run is also an underdog against bugs. It definitely needs more charges (absolutely criminal it has less than cluster) but it's super versatile because of how precise it is. There's a lot of situations where a cluster bomb would need to kill your teammates or yourself to hit the bugs but the strafing run can be spammed every encounter without friendly fire and in the right situation it can really thin out hordes of bugs. Especially effective against both types of spewers since they're such big targets.
@Steir12
@Steir12 24 күн бұрын
It definitely should have same auto aim properties as rocket run if it doesn't have it already
@windsgrace688
@windsgrace688 23 күн бұрын
The thing that bugs me the most about the Eagle strafing run is that the attack pattern on the ground is two parallel lines but Eagle 1 has a nose-mounted gattling gun similar to an A-10 Thunderbolt II. Would be nice if you could hear the brrrrrrt and have it act kind of like a shorter and more precise orbital gattling barrage.
@derkaiser9881
@derkaiser9881 23 күн бұрын
It leaves a lot alive every time. It needs more density to the strafing path.
@achillesa5894
@achillesa5894 23 күн бұрын
Yeah it's so close to being really good imo. Especially on bugs as they run at you in a line.
@coqzilla3811
@coqzilla3811 23 күн бұрын
Eagle Strafing has a lot of potential to be good, it just doesnt kick hard enough to consistently wipe out trash mobs. It either needs more density in each line of fire, some armor pen or just staight up more damage.
@RamonAlek
@RamonAlek 23 күн бұрын
You know what's crazy? Orbital Airburst Strike cooldown was 75sec on release, along with Gas Strike, they were my two main strats all the time, then they nerfed Airburst to 100sec and I leave it, now it's 120sec, and it never got mentioned anywhere in a single patch note.
@icata12345
@icata12345 23 күн бұрын
i was airstrike spammer and never really gave this stuff a try
@J-Dizzle95
@J-Dizzle95 23 күн бұрын
I finally figured out the power of the airburst so I have been using it for a little while and I was so confused when I went to put it on and saw 120 seconds?!? Hardly worth it. I was thinking to myself “this would be so much better if it was like every minute” probably because it used to be 75 seconds. I knew there was something fishy going on. Idk why the devs seem to actively oppose anything fun.
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 23 күн бұрын
Same. You get alot more kills with the airburst on a bug breach, then you do an air strike. Altho the positive of the air strike is it can be used on a BT, where the airburst does nothing to it. @@icata12345
@speedyazi5029
@speedyazi5029 23 күн бұрын
Gas is still 75 I'm pretty sure. Also, I think they nerfed Airburst but 2 minutes still isn't long compared to other stratagems which are more than that. Also, people are sleeping on Gatling barrage.
@Crimnox_Cinder
@Crimnox_Cinder 23 күн бұрын
I've been playing since release, and I've never seen airburst below 120 sec.
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
@dojelnotmyrealname4018 24 күн бұрын
The main thing you need to learn with the autocannon sentry is *range*. The damn thing can take out chargers and bile titans in quick succession, as long as it gets the 5 seconds it needs to aim at them. It's not ideal if the bugs get to it, but if you can keep it safe long enough for it to get it's cannon on target it can take out up to 4 bile titans in about 20 seconds. If you manage to set one up in advance it can do some serious work. It's an excellent ambush tool. As for the gatling sentry: The thing about sentries is that they're more than just bug killing. They also draw aggro. Which can give you the breathing room needed to get a situation under control. They also overpenetrate small size bugs I think, so they may be more effective in more enemy dense situations. Plus, they're excellent against the most important bug type to keep under control: Hunters. The advantage it has over the tesla tower is that it can do all that without being an extreme liability to the team. The reason why I don't prefer the JAR against bots is simple: Range matters. The bots are most effective at medium range. So that's the range you don't want to fight them at. That's also the range you use a JAR at.
@submachinegun5737
@submachinegun5737 23 күн бұрын
Well the extreme liability to your team is debatable for sure. Gatling sentries randomly whipping 180 degrees and wiping half your team, and don’t ever use mortars against bugs, but just like most other stratagems you just have to pay attention and learn some good positioning. It’s a cool balance mechanic that these stratagems nuke huge hoards but they’re balanced with friendly fire.
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
@dojelnotmyrealname4018 23 күн бұрын
@@submachinegun5737 The thing is gatling sentries rotate just fast enough to not actually kill you if it traces over you. Mortars on the other hand kinda need inverse range priority.
@swift-pawedteif386
@swift-pawedteif386 23 күн бұрын
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018the shield emplacement draws agro when you’re not in it and charges faster.
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
@dojelnotmyrealname4018 23 күн бұрын
@@swift-pawedteif386 Yes. It also puts a giant shield over the things I'm trying to kill...
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 23 күн бұрын
@@submachinegun5737 It's okay to use mortars against bugs, but the thing is that there just aren't a lot of situations where they're good. Using mortar sentries in a bug breach is a bad idea, but throwing one or two down prior to engaging an outpost or objective can soften them up so you have less small fry to worry about and can focus on big targets like chargers and BTs.
@CheeseDanish85
@CheeseDanish85 24 күн бұрын
Autocannon Sentry is amazing against bots. Takes out hulks and mediums consistently. Just hope there isn't a dropship for it to waste rounds on tho lol. No idea what I would ever pick rocket sentry for, it just doesn't punch hard enough.
@juan0808
@juan0808 24 күн бұрын
I have tested it in the defense mission against bugs and works better than the gattling for mobs and chargers. Because the splash damage and lower speed it keeps being effective and doesn't run out of ammo. So you can get 100% uptime.
@tehrobros5345
@tehrobros5345 23 күн бұрын
You can make your sentry target specific enemies by tagging them after the sentry is deployed
@dashuskington
@dashuskington 23 күн бұрын
@@tehrobros5345 Is this cap? Have you done this in a mission?
@tehrobros5345
@tehrobros5345 23 күн бұрын
@@dashuskington now that you mention it I’m not sure, I remember seeing it in some video and I may have been placebo’ed into believing it’s real
@Fightersword
@Fightersword 23 күн бұрын
@@tehrobros5345 this isn’t true, sadly. Rocket sentry will try to prioritize big targets in range (allegedly), and by big targets it means ‘anything with a big dot on the minimap’, before targeting whatever else. the bullet ones prefer shooting things they think they can hurt (but will still target chargers/titans if there’s nothing else), and the autocannon seems to just go for whatever is closest to it in all cases (all sentries generally do if they have no other priorities or if two targets have tied priorities), which just exacerbates the turning problem (constant target switching due to mobs dying or proximity changing before it can shoot) and self killing issue when used poorly (or with some badly timed patrol spawns).
@koalabro6118
@koalabro6118 23 күн бұрын
As someone who has been using Ammo Backpack since launch, I have a few gameplay tips. 1, be greedin'. Don't go handing out Refills off of the HUD, because the HUD's broken and doesn't actually display proper information after the first refill. If an ally uses the "Need ammo" callout or asks for it in VC or TC, go ahead and hand one out, even when using the HMG you will have more than enough to go around, so long as you only give to those who need it. 2, be frugal. When with the squad, be sure to have an empty node on the pack before you touch the Resupply call-in's nodes, you refill both your ammo and a backpack node off of a single resupply call-in's node, effectively double dipping on the ammo you recieve. 3, be shootin'. You will not run out of ammo in fights, almost ever. Keep the pressure up. Ignore ammo counts and mag dump pretty much every compound you come across, and be sure to refill your magazines between every fight, no matter how many bullet's you've actually fired, because a full mag is better than saving 30 bullets in your HMG or 2 grenades in your GL. 4, be stimmin'. You have 8 extra stims on your back, so make use of them whenever possible. Always stim back to full. When sprinting across the map, take damage somehow and pop a stim when your stamina bottoms out to fully refill it instantly and have infinite stamina for a short duration. 5, be nadin'. You have 8 extra grenades on your back, so you best be tossing them. Take impacts if your build lack a good strider-killer, take smokes and stealth for minutes at a time, take stun to play the game on easy mode, seriously stuns are so strong with this pack because you can basically toss them with impunity. GL or Grenade Pistol allows you to still preform essential HELLDIVER tasks like nests and fabs, and if you haven't tried using GL as a primary with the Ammo Pack, I HIGHLY recommend, GL refills both it's mags off of one node, meaning you can haul around some 120 or so Grenades at a time, and it's so consistent for taking out striders you can bring the instant-win stun grenades as your throwable.
@JohnGrahamDoe
@JohnGrahamDoe 24 күн бұрын
Guard Dog needs to be able to resupply half ammo off of ammo packs. Needing resupply pickups is too feels bad, will never be picked over rover sadly 😞 Oh shit! I had no idea Airburst could kill Chargers! Pro tip: Airburst will kill Bile Titan if the back armor is stripped (big hole in the back armor with orange guts showing)
@aaronhumphrey3514
@aaronhumphrey3514 24 күн бұрын
Guard dog also needs its mag size increased from 20 to 45. I have no idea why they gave it such tiny magazines.
@JohnGrahamDoe
@JohnGrahamDoe 24 күн бұрын
​@@aaronhumphrey3514 I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah that's abysmal if true. Needs to have full, if not extended mags. As it stands, it hits hard when it's online, but it is active for about 2% of the mission, then it's just dead weight on your back the rest of the mission 😔 #JusticeForGuardDog!
@Steir12
@Steir12 24 күн бұрын
And they both need to NOT target things they cant penetrate. it's so frustrating watching rover absolutely deadset on tickling a hive guard for 20 seconds straight while you are fighting horde of hunters ganging on you struggling to survive.
@Uncertainty2
@Uncertainty2 24 күн бұрын
@@Steir12 alternatively, giving the bullet rover medium armor pen would do a lot to differentiate it from the laser. It would still need to get more ammo out of resupplies though - or even get ammo from map-spawned pickups.
@Steir12
@Steir12 24 күн бұрын
@@Uncertainty2 They also need to make it inner workings more clear. I have not a damn clue what it does most of the time or why it doesn't shooting.
@DreadNought0255
@DreadNought0255 24 күн бұрын
I swear by the eagle strafing run. It's different from all others in that it's angled away from you and not perpendicular. This means that it's good with softening up and clearing out groups of enemies that are chasing you. Get them through a choke and it thins out the mooks easy-peasy. Even takes down Dominators occationally. I very commonly throw that thing at my own feet when getting swarmed, jump onto my back and watch the strafe as I reload.
@GingerNinja__
@GingerNinja__ 24 күн бұрын
They really should just make the MG turret be an HMG turret instead.
@andrzejwysocki609
@andrzejwysocki609 23 күн бұрын
or make the manned turret into the hmg turret, so it can finally get some buffs
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 22 күн бұрын
it IS an HMG turret what are you talking about?
@andrzejwysocki609
@andrzejwysocki609 22 күн бұрын
@@SepticFuddy hmg SENTRY i meant, so it can get the buffs, as of now it does not get like any of the upgrades for the sentry, it really needs better turning and ammo, i legit see no one bring it in missions
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 22 күн бұрын
@@andrzejwysocki609 Ah, that makes more sense
@kingnocho1231
@kingnocho1231 24 күн бұрын
I switched to recoilless after the quasar nerf and I actually like it more, the reload animation cancels make it more involved to use
@calvin7330
@calvin7330 23 күн бұрын
Part of the reason the supply backpack is slept on is because it doesn't "make sense". It basically gives you an extra supply pack from the resupply pod. By carrying an empty backpack, your helldiver gets double the grenades/ stims, and ammo from the same pack. It makes zero sense physically and it's not something a player would expect without being told about it or using the supply backpack themselves.
@josephburchanowski4636
@josephburchanowski4636 23 күн бұрын
Then spread the word. Get your friend to run something like grenade launcher supply pack, and tell them how to hit 5 to resupply themselves. The backpack is fun enough without the mechanic of double resupply; but the double resupply is something anyone will realize while they are having fun with spamming all the ammo. People just don't experiment enough with this game.
@TheNightOwl11683
@TheNightOwl11683 23 күн бұрын
Run a supply backpack with a Stalwart & Eruptor, use the Stalwart as your primary weapon & Eruptor as the support weapon. The supply backpack will help make up for the lack of magazines for the Stalwart.
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 22 күн бұрын
@@TheNightOwl11683 Personally, I really don't understand the Stalwart & Eruptor build at higher levels. Tried it the first day and it felt very underwhelming. Eruptor could handle chaff well enough on its own, and neither of them can deal with heavies. Now with the Eruptor neutered you can barely even manage mediums. At least the other machine guns can do that much enough to maybe let the EAT handle the rest... maybe.
@TheNightOwl11683
@TheNightOwl11683 22 күн бұрын
@@SepticFuddy After the Eruptor nerf, it's not viable anymore. The shrapnel being removed took a lot of damage potential out of it. DOT being fixed, a straight up fire build is very powerful (Incendiary Breaker, Grenade Pistol, Flamethrower, Eagle Napalm Strike, EAT-17 for heavy targets, & your choice of Stun or Thermite grenades, probably even the Incendiary Impact grenades when they get released in the next warbond). Go with a shield backpack & a medic armor to help with survivability.
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 22 күн бұрын
@@TheNightOwl11683 I know, but I meant even before. It just didn't have sufficiently good answers to chargers, titans, hulks, gunships, tanks and turret towers IMO
@Six6Sicks
@Six6Sicks 24 күн бұрын
I use the Orbital Airburst all the dang time. One of my favorites. Placed correctly it will also take out hulks and tanks if enough of the splash hits the heat vents. Especially if you trick tanks into getting stuck. And I really just love how damn dangerous it is.
@chaywarburton3488
@chaywarburton3488 23 күн бұрын
Same here. I love it. Melts breaches. Orbital Strike is super underrated at higher diff too.
@ValkisCalmor
@ValkisCalmor 23 күн бұрын
It has its uses on bots but there are other strategems I prefer for them. On the other hand I will never not take it to bugs, it's just too good. I pair it with a 500kg and they give me an answer to everything.
@icata12345
@icata12345 23 күн бұрын
it kills tanks???
@Six6Sicks
@Six6Sicks 23 күн бұрын
@@icata12345 Yeah, if the tank is relatively slow moving (ie doing a 180) or even stuck and the bursts are hitting the heat vents... tank is done for.
@soybean9098
@soybean9098 24 күн бұрын
Love the orbital airburst but sadly some planets have the accuracy modifier that make it far more dangerous to your team and often just get zero value.
@Psyko_Monk3y
@Psyko_Monk3y 24 күн бұрын
You are positioning your autocannon sentry atrociously in that first clip. The other clips are better, but note that sentries all have a range of roughly 70 meters (~100 for mortars) so they should be much farther back. Also rocket sentries have the damage equivalent of a mech rocket. Aka not very good. I'd prefer if the rocket sentry had a much slower firerate and a bit less ammo, but launched EAT rockets. It might not need the volley of 2 if they made that change, but they should keep it so that it can perform anti air against the bots. (Though if 2 EATs to the body of a dropship don't drop it, they should force the dropship to die to a single volley) TLDR; sentries have way more range than you'd expect, you can place them well before engaging & rocket sentry needs a buff/rework.
@juan0808
@juan0808 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, I have seen a lot of people miscalculate the range of sentries. Even with mortars I see a lot of people put them right into the action just to get destroyed. With missile and cannon you can put them in high positions even if there are no enemies around and any breach or patrol will get destroyed keeping the zone free of enemies.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I always tend to look for a clear area away from the fighting if I have to call down a sentry, both so it can get a clear line of sight and also so enemies aren't standing on it. The Autocannon Sentry in particular will destroy itself if it fires at close range.
@Xanezz
@Xanezz 24 күн бұрын
AC sentry is goated, using it almost every time on bug missions. Has to be positioned right because if anything is near it ever its fuckin dead. Its got massive range tho, it can take extra BTs and Chargers off your back if you give it space to breathe, clear some of the chaff so the targeting doesnt do dumb shit and ideally the elevation that was mentioned. It can also kill dropships if you get lucky with the angle and it hits an engine, not consistent tho. I generally dont run it against bots because all it takes is one rocket, havent tried it with the fixed sentry health tho. Mostly I just like it because its an autocannon tho.
@submachinegun5737
@submachinegun5737 23 күн бұрын
Casually solos BTs
@Bombsuitsandkilts
@Bombsuitsandkilts 23 күн бұрын
The secret for gatling sentry is to throw it really far in front of you and kite the bugs in front of it, also pretty good for killing bots at long range and getting them to focus the sentry so you can flank them. Solo helldive with gatling and autocannon sentry a lot and I think its a fun playstyle
@UNSCSpartan043
@UNSCSpartan043 23 күн бұрын
On the sentries I personally run the Auto Cannon heavily. Even though like you said it tends to kill itself, get overrun, or shoot at the least important target, but when it gets put in a good position with some range it is on like Donkey Kong. It will wreck everything and anything short of Bile Titans that can't be staggered and tend to charge it down. But it can and will absolutely still wreck a titan if it's given a chance and a bit of range. I like to wing it off a ways as I'm being chased to unload on my pursuers or just simply as a distraction to draw enemies away as I bail and run. Or toss it on the rim of a large nest or out a bit from a bot base to position it to start unloading on stuff before I go in. When I hear and see that thing start hammering into something it's just so satisfying. But like you said it can also be infuriating all to often such as when I wing it off to the side somewhere and a massive patrol spawns right next to it and obliterates it or draws it's attention away from the Titan or Chargers that are hot on my heels lol.
@p3drozroom
@p3drozroom 23 күн бұрын
Supply back is an insanely good backpack against bugs, coming from a hell commander. It's slept on because you get it so early then forget when you start unlocking the others. I rarely see anyone run it anymore. More stims = more survivability More ammo = more horde clearing for ammo-hungry guns More nades = faster horde clearing or more survivability/utility by using stun nades 2 for 1 uses when you refill from a resupply pod. You're not slowed down by regrouping to share the resupply pod. Constant uptime on supplies means you run away less, clear bug nests and onjectives faster. You don't need the shield or rover if you know how to kite bile spit, dodge attacks, parry (hunters) and prevent yourself from being overwhelmed. Jetpack is nice style points and mobility, but unless you're that guy that runs from bug breaches and leaves the squad to fight (viable strat, not hating this) then you're gonna drain time looking for ammo crates or resupplying. Supply backpack with an aggressive playstyle is pretty much my go-to these days
@PaxEmpyrean
@PaxEmpyrean 23 күн бұрын
Love the supply pack. Run it basically always. There is a fun trick you can do with it if you've got a friend; they take RR (for bugs) or Spear (for bots) and you take supply pack with a support weapon that doesn't need a backpack (flamethrower for bugs, AMR for bots), but you swap backpacks. You reload for him, and he uses the supply pack on you, which effectively resupplies your support weapon as well as his with a single use. At maximum efficiency, this means you have 21 canisters for the flamethrower and 18 rockets for the recoilless. That's a dozen more rockets than the team would have otherwise, and you can team reload to fire every 2 seconds when a bile titan shows up.
@p3drozroom
@p3drozroom 23 күн бұрын
@@PaxEmpyrean hahahaha love it
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 23 күн бұрын
I love the Gatling barrage. I’ve killed Biles and chargers with it after missing a full blast from a 500KG and only doing partial damage and only cracking armor. It’s also great for small enemies and it only takes 80 seconds to charge. But you need stuns for chargers. But with 6 stun grenades it awesome even in helldive. I get most people prefer air burst but the Gatling barrage can come back like 40 seconds sooner which makes it my preferred strat. I’ve been running 500KG, orbital Gatling, shield gen backpack, Flamethrower, sickle, grenade pistol, and stun grenades. With the light armor that gives 6 grenades It’s really unconventional but super effective.
@Somnolentone
@Somnolentone 24 күн бұрын
I'm in a love/hate relationship with the 500kg. I have literally headshotted bile titans with it and they lived. I've landed them directly under titans while they are *not* spitting, just walking around so no damage reduction from the spit animation, and they lived. A few weeks ago I was one-shotting titans left and right with it, and since the last patch/MO i've been lucky if it only takes two.
@j2d4oi
@j2d4oi 23 күн бұрын
Bile Titans are weird. I've laid perfect shots on them that have 2 shot them in the past at full health, but then other times I make 4 or 5 of those shots before they go down. I feel like I'm missing something, but don't know what. That's with AT weapons like EAT, quasar, and RR
@PurpleTonberry
@PurpleTonberry 23 күн бұрын
Been having the same problem, with both titans and chargers, I thought I was taking crazy pills! Since the last patch it's been crazy inconsistent. Feels like now I can place it on/very near to a stunned charger and about 30% of the time they just walk away with no major injuries, even on sticks. Same with titans, get that perfect ranged throw where you get the ball right under a titan without aggroing it, used to be a damn near guaranteed kill, now they seem to almost always be able to walk away from it without major damage. What on earth are they doing to this game.....
@Somnolentone
@Somnolentone 23 күн бұрын
@@PurpleTonberry they may have changed it so that post-TCS titans are stronger? The 500 feels the same for literally every other enemy...
@Omegacalgar
@Omegacalgar 23 күн бұрын
The way aoe damage and armor interact in this game just leads to inconsistent results . The 500kg aoe is big enough that it is basically hitting every possible hurtbox on a biletitan but where that damage is being allocated leads to drastically different results. The legs are basically invincible and if the 500kg determines that is the part that is being hit then the 500kg is going to do nothing. I don't know if that is how damage is actually determines but one of the earlier patches gave us a glimpse. The patch that made Bot rockets weaker by removing their ability to hit multiple helldiver limbs at once with the aoe, and one of those limbs is the head, so people were taking anywhere from 1-6 times damage or getting oneshotted if the aoe hit the head. From that we can see that damage from AOE at one point for bot rockets was calculating hitting multiple hurtboxes at once and now it only hits one and applies damage to it, the same might be happening to the 500kg.
@Somnolentone
@Somnolentone 23 күн бұрын
@@Omegacalgar that's a great point! You might be onto something, but I didn't notice any change with my success rate with 500s on bile titans from that patch, I think. That was the patch before the latest one right?
@after_midnight9592
@after_midnight9592 23 күн бұрын
Currently I'm running an MG-43 for support with a rover drone for bugs and supply pack against bots. I love how easily it shreds low and medium enemies.
@searingllama5621
@searingllama5621 24 күн бұрын
I've had some pretty good results with the Gatling sentry. It's just the same as all sentries where the spawns and placement really dictate it's effectiveness. I've had plenty of drops of the Gatling Sentry where it's killed over 50 enemies, but also plenty of drops where it kills like 10 enemies and gets overrun by Brood Commanders and taken down
@alexanders.4591
@alexanders.4591 22 күн бұрын
Supply backpack with light medic armor and the flamethrower is awesome against the bugs. I didn’t realize how good it was until about a week ago. Now I take it on Automaton and bug missions.
@albertwesker828
@albertwesker828 23 күн бұрын
Recoilless has reload stages now too. Meaning you can interrupt the animation once you pull out the spent shell (?) and hear the sound, and when you commence reloading, that stage is already done with. Nifty
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 24 күн бұрын
Airburst needs three thing to become very good: 1 - A 4th shot with the upgrade to barrages (give it a barrage tag if needed); 2 - Longer window between shots, so that it becomes a true bug breach killer; 3 - Tighter spread around the edges of the map, cuz it can completely miss hordes of enemies. Gas needs to be fixed for non-host, just like fire. As it is now, enemies can just shrug it off if you aren't the host. I'd also settle with a radius and duration upgrade. EMS Strike: As it is now, it is inferior to EMS mortars in every possible way. It needs a wider area of effect and it needs to stop all enemies, including Bile Titans and Factory Striders. Make it work on massive enemies and now we have a reason to pick it over EMS mortar. Autocannon sentry I just throw it as far away from the action and usually on high ground if possible. But I would like it proritize bigger targets and not the small bugs around me....which it seems to prefer. Rocket Sentry: same for autocannon. The tooltip says it targets large enemies, but it doesn't. It prioritizes small enemies and will completely ignore the Bile Titan right in front of it. I think it shouldn't even target small bugs, no matter what.
@Steir12
@Steir12 24 күн бұрын
EMS strike need much much shorter call-in time and it will be okay around second or second and a half. If you need to disable a lot of things in the area you usually need it VERY urgently.
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 23 күн бұрын
@@Steir12 I usually use it for bug breaches. Or I would like to use it. Considering how worthless it is currently, it is just a waste of a stratagem slot. And call in time is something all orbitals suffer badly, especially if there is a modifier to screw thing over even more. If Eagle had an EMS strike.....
@KsnypsAdventures
@KsnypsAdventures 24 күн бұрын
The only instance of me using a 500kg is on those missions with one less stratagem slots. Otherwise I go with airstrike for dealing with hordes and the occasional charger, as well as sometimes finishing off bile titans, and the railcannon strike to reliably kill heavy armor enemies. Quasar or EAT is a pretty nice option to fill up the loadout if you want to go all in on the tank killer build. Just grab a breaker or some other crowd clear primary
@Paulunatr
@Paulunatr Күн бұрын
Orbital Airburst Strike is badly slept on. It's one of the most consistent area-clearing tools in the entire game on a 2-minute base cooldown. Yes it doesn't help with heavies, but by weeding out so much chaff, it buys you a ton of breathing room to use your tools for killing those. Just chuck it at a bug push and watch kill count go brrr. Orbital Precision Strike gets written off because other burst damage stratagems are easier to use, but if you can break the skill floor for using it properly, its potential is as limitless as a stratagem can have in this game. Being able to delete priority targets in one shot on a 100-second cooldown is crazy. I find that the easiest way to make effective use of it is to use it in tandem with stun grenades and/or armors that either boost stealth or stratagem throwing range. stun a patrol or sneak up on a garrison and use the OPS as your opening shot to pick off the most dangerous target. In open combat it wrecks tanks because of how easy it is to stick them with the orb too.
@chaywarburton3488
@chaywarburton3488 23 күн бұрын
I've killed so many bile titans and chargers, hulks, tanks with the orbital strike. You know, the first one in the game? It's intense. One shots every single one. Unlimited uses, 60 sec cool down. How do you hit anything other than biles? Stun gernade. Biles? timing or you dance underneath it and get it's guts rained on you.
@g80gzt
@g80gzt 23 күн бұрын
"the orbital strike" "the first one" just say precision because there's precision, airburst, gas, ems But also, 100 sec cooldown, not 60.
@chaywarburton3488
@chaywarburton3488 23 күн бұрын
@@g80gzt Gotcha.
@anthonygerling6365
@anthonygerling6365 23 күн бұрын
Pairing the supply pack with the grenade launcher is one of my favorite kits. Mob control for days.
@itisluna4782
@itisluna4782 23 күн бұрын
Autocannon sentry shreds against bugs with correct placement. You have to anticipate when you'll need it, and place it far from a fight for it to cover you/be a safe spot to fall back to. It can and will kill multiple bile titans if you defend it. I bring it every mission against bugs. If its suiciding on you more than clearing the screen of heavies, you need to get better with your placement of it.
@puru-see
@puru-see 23 күн бұрын
what I love about airburst the most is that it's the easiest stratagem in the game to call down, even in a panic, for how effective it is
@I.AM.ON.MY.WAY.
@I.AM.ON.MY.WAY. 17 күн бұрын
This video is really humorous, just what I needed to get through this shift
@pseudowoodo6154
@pseudowoodo6154 23 күн бұрын
I tend to run airburst most big missions. It can be a bit sketchy with scatter mod. I like the jetpack, I think it just needs a few secs, 20s to like 15s, quicker jump cooldown, and to shoot while flying and it's in a great spot. Some of these things like airburst and HMG not receiving some ship upgrades for some odd balancing reason hurts them.
@KageRyuu6
@KageRyuu6 23 күн бұрын
Not saying Minigun is perfect by any means, but compared to most air strikes and orbitals the Minigun will rack up more kills more reliably while drawing aggro away from you, while compared to the Tesla Tower it has nearly 7 times it's range and you can stand right on top of it and be perfectly safe, while even with the Arc armor it'll take nearly a fifth of your HP off with a single hit.
@OhDough
@OhDough 23 күн бұрын
it objectively won't. the second a charger pops up you'll get next to no kills and the highest you'll get from minigun sentry alone is maybe 30. I can get 60+ from a single gas strike from simply tossing it in.
@nucleus691
@nucleus691 19 күн бұрын
Recoilless rifle is quite underrated imo. You can just whip it out, instantly kill a heavy enemy and then reload it later. Its staged reload lets you reload in 2 quick parts and you can even skip the third bit of the reload. It can 2 shot bile titans too. Its very fun and my main support weapon against bugs and bots alike.
@raptorjetz
@raptorjetz 23 күн бұрын
Love the in-video visual timestamps of the weapons, very clever
@rottenmeat5934
@rottenmeat5934 23 күн бұрын
The cluster airburst strike works pretty well against bots, too! Reliably kills devastators, and regularly kills hulks because the shot lands on the back.
@timothygooding9544
@timothygooding9544 23 күн бұрын
I've never seen airburst take out a charger, it even says its medium armor penetrating on the stats Also if your using the incendiary breaker watch out for friendly fire, a tiny shot will light them on fire and that can kill them almost immediatly Its a cone of death for allies
@puffer_frog
@puffer_frog 23 күн бұрын
About the recoiless rifle, if you can do consistent animation cancels, you can lower the reload time down to about 3s
@RockyLight
@RockyLight 23 күн бұрын
I find that autocannon sentry works immensely well vs bugs if placed pre-emptively before you reach objectives or tossed far from your location. As in, toss it to your right but the lead the bugs left. The thing has insane range and it can kill multiple chargers and even bile titans at range as well as mow down way more enemies than gatling sentry with the AoE. Like seriously, just toss that thing out in open where there's no enemies nearby about 50-100 meters away from an objetive - as long as it has line of sight it will absolutely tear and shred any patrol that might be heading your way for as long as it has ammo, as well as clear out the objective area at range. In multiplayer it can also be used in the same manner against teammates that just got bug breached. It's got enough ammo to kill two bile titans and leave the third one somewhat injured if it fires at absolutely nothing else - which is a ton of damage. If it's tossed when a swarm is already on you though, yeah it's not gonna do anything.
@WEARES0BACK
@WEARES0BACK 22 күн бұрын
Advice on turrets, best way I’ve found to use them is alongside another. E.g. the battling and the matching gun. Separately, they’re ok but you’ve got to be cautious with how you use them/ defend them from being blown up. Used in tandem, the mg sorts the medium armoured enemies whilst the gat sorts out the hoards. It’s not the most versatile way to play but it’s definitely a fun way. Also they’re not great against bots, they’ll blow them up in seconds :/
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 23 күн бұрын
Iv been running a bile titan/charger killer load out last few days. 500kg, Precision Strike (both of these 1 shot a BT), Airburst strike for bug breaches and the recoilless rifle.
@Solarch-wc3vs
@Solarch-wc3vs 23 күн бұрын
The supply backpack is great. It takes guns that are good but hungry for ammo like the scorcher and lets you use them constantly without worry. You can also go absolutely insane with the flamer and grenade launchers when you have 5 times the ammo. The resupply stratagem also fills one of your backpack slots so it last even longer than it looks
@mcpheery3571
@mcpheery3571 23 күн бұрын
The orbital railcannon seems to target Brood Commanders first, too. For some reason the auto-targeting of stratagems puts them ahead of Bile Titans.
@DelightfullyMADD
@DelightfullyMADD 23 күн бұрын
The Orbital Airburst is now pretty much a Must-Take for me while going against bugs now. It's just so so good at dealing with bug breaches, and the cooldown is low enough that it typically is ready to go for the next one, provided you're not playing like a muppet. The Ballistics Shield is almost always with me during Bot runs, and it's saved my bacon so many times. Even if rockets do send you flying, it minimizes the damage and even more so if you're wearing heavy armor with Fortified. Plus you can pretty much just tank whole hordes of bots so long as you can keep them all in front of you... which can be hard when the game literally spawns a flanking patrol right behind you despite having cleared the area behind you just moments before. It also can protect you when it's on your back and you're running away like an unpatriotic coward
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 23 күн бұрын
I agree. I took it last time on a full cluster/anti-chaff build with the RL-77 along with the Eagle Strage (yes I know). The map had many valleys where the Eagle Strafe run took out at least 15 bugs everytime which was very nice. The Orbital one though, it performed better than the Eagle Cluster bombs in my opinion. Also it's somewhat less dangerous than the Eagle which seems to be cursed for TKs and massive AoE radius. It's a pretty solid choice on bugs ngl.
@decoy2424
@decoy2424 20 күн бұрын
The Gatling sentries are good with the servo assisted throw, You can toss it near friends in trouble if you are not able to get over there. Has 75m sight excellent with hills. And particularly helpful with Shriekers acting as a flack cannon. Most of the sentries have pretty crazy range too.
@MrSlendykinsSockman
@MrSlendykinsSockman 23 күн бұрын
Shoutout to the orbital gatling barrage, my go-to fast and always available bug option for breaches, POIs, nests, objectives,everything
@chettonex
@chettonex 23 күн бұрын
Shield gen is extremely usefull against automatons due to its extremely low cooldown. Inside it you can deal with small targets with your trusty cluster airstrike and then finish off hulks easly because they will stay steady firing to your shield as you pop their heads. I even use it as a decoy as enemies prioritize deployables and the shield will take a good amount of aggro before getting destroyed. Deploy it on a high spot and melee enemies will not reach it and will remain stuck until a ranged unit destroys it or it wears off.
@prebenkul
@prebenkul 23 күн бұрын
the gatling sentry is not meant to carry you, it's meant to provide cover in times of need. Like if you have an army after you, you can plop it down to provide cover fire and as a distraction, allowing you to escape (bugs and bots will always focus it and ignore you). It runs out quickly but the firerate has saved my ass many times when i was sure i'd get pwned by some bugs or bots. Even better is that sentries won't call in reinforcements, or bug breaches. So if you see a patrol and want to take it out without alerting enemies, the gatling sentry will do that easily unless theres a charger/titan.
@OhDough
@OhDough 23 күн бұрын
no point in using gatling when plenty of orbitals do the same thing and had close to a 1/3'd of the cooldown.
@prebenkul
@prebenkul 23 күн бұрын
@@OhDough orbitals alert patrols if you don't kill all of them. Same with dropships. and also if you dont time orbitals, they not gonna kill anything. But as long as the gatling sees enemies, thats a guaranteed 20 kills minimum, just throw and forget about it. It can also save your teammates if they are attacked by a big swarm, throwing an orbital could just kill them or miss entirely. Its a defensive stratagem, thats why its green. plus with deployment upgrade, the sentry is almost instantly deployed while orbitals can take a pretty long time.
@MrWigglesWorth
@MrWigglesWorth 24 күн бұрын
Supply Pack is also great with the Grenade Launcher. Really lets you spam it. Grenade spam will kill just about anything, but is super efficient at clearing big mobs of enemies.
@mejm8855
@mejm8855 23 күн бұрын
Jump jet works really grwat with charge weapons like arc thrower and quasar. You can charge while in the air to immediately counter attack something your running from. Also works great if u do stratagem inputs while flying.
@pabloricco8093
@pabloricco8093 23 күн бұрын
A note on the supply pack, when taking a normal supply u get the stim *and* the use of the pack so is triple value not just dubble
@whirlwinds1499
@whirlwinds1499 23 күн бұрын
I was trying out the rail gun on bugs since i only started playing post railgun nerf and ive been enjoying it, the one thing i was struggling with was bile titans mainly cuz im ass at figuring out the 500 timing. Decided to run eats inplace of the 500 and been liking that immensely more. Also like running it with the jar, grenade pistol and supply pack with airstrike as my final stratagem and its been my favorite loadout as of recently for bugs
@PaxEmpyrean
@PaxEmpyrean 23 күн бұрын
The JAR is kinda frustrating to use with bugs, in my experience. It has a hard time dealing with hunters since it's slow to swing around and they can often dodge the rockets, and you don't have a close range sidearm for emergencies. It's my go-to weapon for bots, though.
@joshuae9404
@joshuae9404 22 күн бұрын
Gatling Sentry is the most powerful stratagem vs bugs on difficulty 1-3. Once you go 4+, it falls off HARD. On 4, Machine Gun Sentry draws even, 5+ Machine Gun Sentry pulls ahead because it can at least kill a few medium armored enemies. I mean, MGS falls off, too, but not as hard. Autocannon Sentry is one of the earliest stratagems you can use vs mlre heavily armored enemies. We did a bunch of runs on difficulty 7 as a 3-stack with one of us reeeally low level (he started with 7 once he hit like level 5 or something). Once he unlocked the Autocannon Sentry he was like "I finally feel useful" and the ACS clutched out vs Titans more than once.
@Turnil321
@Turnil321 24 күн бұрын
I think the guard dog with a machinegun is a underdog.
@steelphoenix8978
@steelphoenix8978 23 күн бұрын
i saw a comment saying mrs should be effective 55m+ and "every gun is basically a shotgun" (paraphrase), but i couldnt help but notice thats about the detection range on enemies. thats what they should be used for, takin out specific targets to reduce reinforcement calls and such, but they cant do that and are virtually useless. the slugger was the best dmr cuz even unscoped and some skill, you could effectively take down all the targets fast enough to not matter if you're in detection range. the dmr however, you have to scope and slowly take down enemies and body shots would even one shot the weakest of bots, also not far away enough so you get bot drops. i havent played with the updated marksman rifles yet so idk how they feel now.
@ZephyrKitten742
@ZephyrKitten742 24 күн бұрын
Precision strike is really nice against bots. Not only can it one shot tanks and hulks, but it can take out detector towers fairly easily. As long as you throw it in the right side so it doesn't bounce it takes them out really consistently.
@jalontf2
@jalontf2 23 күн бұрын
I just started revisiting the HMG Emplacement oddly enough, and man am I addicted. Pops them Biley bois like crazy!
@russelldavis1875
@russelldavis1875 23 күн бұрын
AC turret is my shit on the bugs, but once I went up to 9 it definitely got a lot harder to use. Not because it works worse, but just because you have bugs coming from more directions and more often when you get bogged down, and it's really difficult to set it up during a fight without it getting instagibbed. If you can see a fight coming and position it well, it absolutely still does gangbusters though, you just have to be way more proactive about it, even going up from just 7.
@HidyoX
@HidyoX 24 күн бұрын
You have awaken mine eyes toward the Airburst Strike, good sir. I shall give it a try posthaste.
@JustaFeesh
@JustaFeesh 23 күн бұрын
This is from a perspective as someone that mostly plays in a duo on 7(Suicide Mission), a nice balance of chill and challenge without a buttload of stress for a casual managed democracy enjoyer(me) that doesn't want to super optimize gameplay. I really love Recoilless for bugs atm, feels great with the reload cancel, switched from Quasar to Recoilless as my anti tank for bugs and gremlin giggle whenever I delete a trio of chargers in less than 30 seconds unlike with the Quasar's 3 centuries for 3 chargers, I still bring Quasar from time to time, it's not that bad a nerf and it's nicer for Spore Spewers and Shrieker Nests. For bots I'd rather use Ol' Reliable Autocannon. Definitely hope AH goes the fun over balance route for Recoilless and not require it to ~6 seconds reload again, on a slightly unrelated note, if they gave a better reload to Airburst RL one way or another(better squad reload for example), I'd use it more, it's fun otherwise. Orbital Airburst, I definitely need to try again, looks like a better Railcannon for everything but Bile Titans. 500kg is my friend and I's method for Factory Striders and Bile Titans, 2 of them is usually enough for the Factory Striders, not always consistent but fun whichever way it turns out. Tesla in this vid does look nice, not too big of a fan of the arc res armour, but definitely going to try it for eradicate bugs mission. I like using Gatling Sentry as a ranged decoy and trash clear/weakener unit in regular sized maps while i'm moving to another location, especially with larger hunter packs, it's just what I find satisfying. Seems like it has longer range than the tesla (correct me if I am wrong) so it fits better for this situation. Not saying is absolutely amazing, it's just what works for me. Jar feels a little sluggish personally(skill issue). It's really fun to hit those Devastators heads though and stagger medium sized bugs, 2 shot Broods etc. Also Heavy Devs can in be done in with only 3 toe shots? Neat. Incendiary Breaker is what I use when I want to set the world(bugs) on fire (it's works great as the person who is doing most of the hosting in my duo). As a personal underrated support stratagem on Suicide Mission difficulty, Machine Gun is nice for bugs when I bring Eruptor and/or GP for nests, in our duo we usually have other ways to deal with everything large like airstrikes, orbitals or an anti tank. If there are a lot of spewers, it's not too much of an issue ripping and tearing with Impact Nades and a few Dakka Dakka shots to their heads or even pulling Eruptor out if needed, just something about the Machine Guns 900rpm dakka sounds make my brain happy, also reminds me of Old Snake roaring when firing LMGs in MGS4. Great Vid Dough! I do like seeing new things I normally wouldn't try because of bad first impressions or because I decide to stubbornly stick to what's comfy. Orbital Airburst & Tesla Sentry are definitely stratagems I had a bad first impression with, so thanks for the informative content.
@mute159
@mute159 24 күн бұрын
you can also cancel a bit as you're pulling out the used recoiless shell
@CarrionMaw
@CarrionMaw 23 күн бұрын
I've been filtered by the Airburst a few times due to its slight variations in hitzone between each burst lmao
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 23 күн бұрын
The Stratagems coloring in at the top of screen is a nice touch. The Orbital Air Burst is certainly Under Rated, people underestimate the power of area denial/chock points. Shield emplacement is a GOD SEND vs Bots (I use it, id know). When you need a moment to breath, accept no substates. Supply pack is SO UNDER RATED, Its literally Second Mobile resupply for a whole squad (or 4 for yourself). Precision Strike is nice, but you mostly use it for killing objectives, unless you bring stun nades to lock the enemy in place. 500KG Bomb, OVERRATED. Its effective for sure, but at the same time besides bile titans, other strats do what it does. AutoCannon Sentry is Best Sentry in general. Rocket Sentry for when you want to kill BIG targets. The other Things covered are Situational / Faction based. Honorable Mention, MINES! Mines in general. Under Rated and Under Used cus all Helldivers are too dumb to watch where their walking. (Seriously I can not comprehend this)
@chasepfeiffer6819
@chasepfeiffer6819 22 күн бұрын
I found that the tesla sentry really shines with the rocket sentry but it covers both of the sentries weakness
@StainlessPot6
@StainlessPot6 23 күн бұрын
I believe vitality boost is effectively giving 50 armor rating, because with the armor testing videos I've seen when it's added it pretty much matches the next tier of armor.
@Vortex31415
@Vortex31415 24 күн бұрын
Outstanding video! Thanks for the great content.
@Badmagix23
@Badmagix23 23 күн бұрын
I agree turrets are kinda weak, like we upgraded their turn rate and ammo expecting them to do some work, and they are super weak. AH really need to increase the ammo cap even further I think, because they barely are up a minute. also fix the explosive protection delio, and give the machinegun turret a faster cooldown by like 30 seconds.
@Spectacular_Insanity
@Spectacular_Insanity 23 күн бұрын
You didn't mention this (maybe you don't know?), but you can use the jump pack when you're crouching, sliding, prone, or diving. It's actually kinda busted when you're getting run down by mobs of hunters that are jumping at you all at once.
@hrs.ai2018
@hrs.ai2018 23 күн бұрын
The main reason you should only pick lethal support/stratrgem because mostl of the act are destroy enemies, not escape or hostage rescue. The hit that does not do any damage would require extra resources you have to finish it
@iwantagoodnameplease
@iwantagoodnameplease 23 күн бұрын
Autocannon sentry fires "beyond visual range" almost. Make sure you throw it far away but with a clear line of sight and it mops up
@hugetapewormBIG
@hugetapewormBIG 24 күн бұрын
The sentry stuff comes down to your placement of them ngl, but I do agree they need a little buff
@Steir12
@Steir12 24 күн бұрын
They need better targeting system. Even sentry perfectly placed on elevated ground can just turn towards single isolated scavenger it can't even see, fire ALL of its ammo straight into the ground or into a small knee high rock and turn off.
@4touchdowns1game29
@4touchdowns1game29 23 күн бұрын
Meh Against bugs i usually average 700 plus kills on helldive using autocannon and gattling sentries, they both get a ton of kills.
@TheChrisLeone
@TheChrisLeone 23 күн бұрын
My friend tries to get the whole squad to run arc resist all the time. It is cool as hell to have a full team of tesla towers, blitzers and arc throwers tho
@dudeiii2069
@dudeiii2069 23 күн бұрын
I unironically think the airburst rocket is super underrated for bugs in a 3-4 player lobby. It is much more consistent and faster than cluster bombs IMO.
@Snotnarok
@Snotnarok 23 күн бұрын
The autocannon turret is one of my favorite things to bring in with bugs. When I'm assaulting I'll throw it to my forward-right or left and then go in from the front or flank to the opposite side. I start the fight and all the bugs focus on me while the gun starts pummeling them. Thankfully, usually it targets the charger. Sometimes I'll toss it where I'm standing then run into an area and let it cover me. Sometimes it might blast me but, I'm usually aware enough not to stand in the direct line of it's firing solution. Can you do better with a stratigem? Yeah maybe. But the range and it hits hard enough to just be an extra gun that helps along side with a laser backpack and sickle to gun down a bunch of bugs. Against bots? It's . . . more like you want to lure the bots into it but it's not gonna do great honestly since it's more than likely gonna get targeted and overrun even with fire support.
@mindsablaze221
@mindsablaze221 24 күн бұрын
Walking Barrage is absurdly slept on. Once you get used to how it fires, you are artillery god
@LethinGabbins
@LethinGabbins 7 күн бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the low cooldown orbitals. Precision, air burst and gas are lots of fun to spam.
@thedog5k
@thedog5k 23 күн бұрын
Airburst has been my favorite ad clear for a while. Def slept on, but I think most people are afraid of the friendly fire lmao.
@162manoj
@162manoj 24 күн бұрын
my fave load out for bugs is recoilless, kg, orbital airburst. 4th is flex based on team load out. Always gets me 400+ on lvl 7, higher for higher difficulty
@ScamyKAZE
@ScamyKAZE 23 күн бұрын
Supply backpack has been goat for me i run it with amr(bots)/hmg on difs 7-9 and it slaps. Pretty much unlimited ammo/stims/grenades as by the time i run out you just get refills from supply pods or just call a brand new fully stocked one. The more you learn the game and how to survive the less value the shield backpack brings.
@noble_lemon
@noble_lemon 24 күн бұрын
Id change lmg sentry to some plasma gun. Something similar to sickle in performance. It shoots 50-60 shots in burst with 750 rpm, then recharging 7 seconds and shoot again. With infinite ammo it will work until being destroyed. Will be pretty nice.
@bobzthabarbarian
@bobzthabarbarian 23 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the AC sentry, but it has the durability of an ice sickle in summer time. It's definitely a glass cannon.
@mossblomma
@mossblomma 23 күн бұрын
Recoilless feels weird, it's simultaneously one of the best support weapons but rarely gets picked since the EAT and quasar is more versatile even if they don't do the exact job of the recoilless as well. I did not know the airburst strike was capable of killing chargers! Precision strike kills bile titans if it hits the back segment or the head, if it hits the middle of the body it doesn't have enough damage to one-shot it from my experience. It's a lot more finicky than the 500kg which just needs to hit two legs (at least I think that is the kill requirement, since it doesn't kill when it hits on top the titan) for sure.
@spbynum
@spbynum 23 күн бұрын
Jar-5 is arguably one of the most used guns against the automatons. I don’t understand why it’s in this video.
@khajiit268
@khajiit268 23 күн бұрын
If your Gatling+Autocannon combo doesn't delete any breach/patrol/whatever (on bugs), you just place it wrong. It might be impossible on certain maps or on 9 when six biles following you at the same time though. And only 3min cd
@Inkubun
@Inkubun 23 күн бұрын
When I am fighting bugs I always bring the recoilless rifle for bile titans and chargers. It's really good.
@Moneo_Atreides
@Moneo_Atreides 23 күн бұрын
That bile titan kill with the pistol grenade is sick
@juggerdawg4505
@juggerdawg4505 24 күн бұрын
Yo my favorite backpack is supply pack, back before railgun nerf I always ran railgun and supply pack and used railgun as a pseudo primary that could do it all even if bile titan and tank kills weren't super effective without ps5 glitch.
@khorne133
@khorne133 23 күн бұрын
See, I don't think you having to work in tandem with something is necessarily bad. The turrets, provided they target the right mobs. Can kill the chaff while you kill the armoured targets. And the same can be for members of your squad. I have noticed that the best regarded things in the game, tend to be things that allow you to do more by yourself. If it requires something to work in tandem with something else. It's garbage. Barring assisted reload which I do agree needs a look at. Which I guess makes sense when you are in pugs. But I would hope they balance things around working as a 4 man squad, and not 4 one man armies.
@mosleythehoesley
@mosleythehoesley 23 күн бұрын
More accurate vitality boost increases your hp. By default, the player has 90HP, vitality boost increases it to 108HP. Of course it may also apply headshot resist, but I’m fairly sure what you’re seeing is the extra hp (since both lower at about the same rate)
@pockets8548
@pockets8548 24 күн бұрын
the turrets so well at being decoys at least or to corral enemies to an area... now that im saying that i wonder if you could use it to line up enemies into a conga line to then napalm or some other air strike
@eris7472
@eris7472 23 күн бұрын
I’ve killed bile titans multiple times with airburst strikes. As long as it hits it while it’s emerging from the ground
@codymcgeorge9893
@codymcgeorge9893 24 күн бұрын
Love the incendiary breaker.
@pako23100
@pako23100 24 күн бұрын
I will say the autocannon sentry is very useful in maps with multiple large or medium nests that are craters. I've found that it has the best targeting of all the sentries and it'll do a good job of giving you an overwatch while you run in and blow up the bug holes. It can also be perched up on some cliffs just like the Tesla tower. Obviously if the bugs are in your face you might get shot but, I find myself walking into it's path far more than it just targeting nearby mobs.
@Steir12
@Steir12 24 күн бұрын
I feel with addition of shriekers EAT or other AT option become kinda mandatory on bugs. its saves way too much hassle to simple shoot the nest from distance instead going anywhere near it.
@Mglunafh
@Mglunafh 23 күн бұрын
​​@@Steir12yeah, this even can turn into a clown fiesta if there's also a stalkers lair nearby the shrieker hotel
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