Oil cooler issue sidelining new Indiana State Police Dodge Durango vehicles

Oil cooler issue sidelining new Indiana State Police Dodge Durango vehicles

[@M62auto]

Ford crown Vic "miss me yet"

[@kengray5793]

That was an excellent vehicle. One at my department has over 275k miles and still going strong.

[@GPWGP]

Never granda

[@radeejarrar6521]

Citizens: "WE dont" 😂😂

[@geraldscott4302]

I have almost 400,000 miles on an '06 Crown Vic. Almost no problems. NO serious problems. Have a new engine and transmission ready to go in when needed. The Crown Vic is a tank.

[@MandPman9]

💯

[@BamaMark]

Stellantis is a disgrace

[@9663mu]

Shitlantis

[@pruitt3507]

Them and samsung are working together for that battery factory in kokamo, its a nightmare with them two companies coming together to build that factory.

[@JakeTheStateTrooper]

Sure is!

[@harrychu650]

Worthless union shop, what can you expect.

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

It isn't an american company anymore. They should be barred from producing law enforcement vehicles.

[@AAVIATOR481]

All Stellantis has done is raised costs and reduced quality. I would NEVER buy a Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler these days!

[@The_North0]

You’re a liar

[@markjwil]

True! Stellantis is the worse thing to ever happen to Chrysler. What a terrible company!

[@asporner]

I have a Nitro from the Daimler Chrysler era now with 248,000 miles on the original V6 engine. Fiat? Fix it again Tony!

[@howlinwulf]

I wouldnt buy any new vehicle

[@Whateva67]

They’ve been shit for a long time

[@vernowen2083]

Pentastar engines with the plastic oil cooler have the same problem. Replace it with an aluminum one and then no problem.

[@ziggyz8345]

I'll never understand the needs to use plastic parts on important parts especially the ones keeping the vehicle cooled, like as you said just use aluminum so it has a chance

[@asporner]

I had a similar problem on a new 1997 Mercury Cougar with the plastic intake manifold on the Modular V8 -- they eventually got it right, but for about 6 years problems. They never recalled mine, but did give me the parts to fix (after a total cooling system meltdown), but still invested $2k in engine repairs and every oil change had coolant in it.

[@ZGDX_Smiling_]

*When they said that I just started to watch Korean Pop Music, I didn't need to hear anymore from this at all.*

[@pauljanssen7594]

Correct

[@jacobrector7879]

​@ziggyz8345 I feel the same but if you're building thousands of cars and you can save $60 a car on a part then you can save upwards of $60,000+ dollars profit which is why I'm never buying a dodge lmao

[@petebusch9069]

Aren't we proud, we found selling junk is more profitable than selling quality. When they all sell junk, magically nobody sells junk. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[@tuanas458]

Not sure why they are breaking down but parts breaking down in the field can be a good thing as they can come up with a good fix, and having the car working in the field gets the product out faster.

[@thekingofsas9407]

Bingo.

[@Olds_Pwr]

It is a good thing that Stellantis is a Netherlands company.

[@HighlordFrancis]

@@tuanas458or how about just make a good car in the first place. All Chrysler and Stellantis products are complete dog 💩.

[@tuanas458]

@@HighlordFrancis They do make good cars. You have to consider that any new part are subjected to failure in the field. For example they may be trying out a new engine with a certain new configuration. And when it ends up working well, China steals the ideas lol.

[@GenerallyGeneralLee]

Chrysler got swallowed up by Fiat, then Fiat got swallowed up by Stellantis, whoever the frick they are. Say goodbye to any kind of quality or customer service.

[@danielr3933]

Stellantis is a European automaker. There's been rumors Stellantis wants to get rid of the v8 and go to smaller engines, which seems to be tree with them discontinuing the Hemi's. Wouldn't be surprised if they filed for bankruptcy within the next decade.

[@geraldscott4302]

@@danielr3933 Actually Stellantis is not an automakers itself. It is a corporation that owns several automakers, but there is no such thing as a "Stellantis" vehicle. At least I've never seen one. It's a totally made up name that has no actual meaning.

[@harrybaulsach]

Quality and Chrysler were never in the same sentence 😂😂😂

[@_zigzak]

As if there ever was any lol

[@electricman523]

Chrysler has never been a quality company. Why do you think Daimler-Benz dumped them for pennies on the dollar?

[@JD-ce4so]

This has been an issue since 2010 with the Durango’s. They made the oil cooler out of plastic that sits deep inside the engine that gets really hot…..what does plastic do when it gets really hot…..deforms and melts…….creates leaks, destroys everything. Stop making engine parts out of plastic.

[@biometal770]

they clearly won't stop LOL

[@markh.6687]

Or at least stop making them of CHEAP plastic. Some plastics could handle the job, but not what they used.

[@turkin73k]

that would make since.

[@BlindBiker3]

The issue is regulators, lawmakers, government workers. They are the issue.

[@markh.6687]

@@BlindBiker3 None of them are making automakers build junk; the CEO's bonuses are.

[@okay_then3337]

Thier first problem was buying Dodge vehicles in the first place.

[@replysoon3216]

Here's a life lesson I learned the hard way: If it's not Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury... it's not worth driving!

[@dty1207]

@@replysoon3216none of those brands are considered reliable either

[@AustinTA-cd9rs]

Police forces should be buying Toyota 4 Runners. Much more durable and will last 500,000 miles with basic maintenance. Whoever is in charge of buying and maintaining the fleet needs some education.

[@anthonymolina7416]

@@AustinTA-cd9rsfour runners are slow as hell 😂

[@valentinered3657]

@@anthonymolina7416Exactly and why tf should an American police department buy a Japanese car doesn't make any sense

[@mikebavoso26]

Jeeps have the same problem. It happens over and over, after each repair.

[@freedomfan4272]

Yes my GF has a 2017 jeep and on that year model and I would guess others the oil cooler is PLASTIC

[@electricman523]

Jeep = Junk, Each & Every Part

[@sumtinwong-jx9zu]

j e e p - just empty every pocket just expect endless problems.

[@FlatwoodsDairyLLC]

I personally have yet to have a doorman all metal one come back

[@BlindBiker3]

Government workers are at fault for this problem.

[@1986SSMONTECARLO]

Bring back the Crown Vic

[@electricman523]

The LA County Sheriff Dept said they are going to rebuild all of their Crown Vic's instead of buying SUV's or Charger's. Some of the Crown Vic's have 200-300,000 miles on them before they're retired, only to be bought by cab companies that put another 100-200,000 miles on them.

[@deplorablelibertarian]

Never had these problems with ford police vehicles…

[@Olds_Pwr]

Cops are too fat to get in and out of them these days. That is why they make lifted station wagons.

[@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032]

and the Caprice PPV... GM needs to fire Holden Australia back up!

[@Davis2920022001]

​@@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032Nahhhh. I was around when departments had the test trials using the charger and Caprice ppv. The Caprice was a bit faster but parts coming out of country regardless of being interchangeable with G8 parts was a big factor. I only ever worked with one cop in Indiana that had a 6.0 ppv, it was fast and nice, but then again he also had an old fararri. It's a nice car don't get me wrong but most soccer moms just think it's an Impala or a Malibu from a glance.

[@freedomfan4272]

The reason they're switching to the Durango is because the charger is no longer being produced as of last year.

[@cameronweston1762]

Really???

[@MikeLowrey8990]

No more V8 on cars, the start of pushing all electrical

[@dd___dc]

​@@cameronweston1762a lot auto makers stop making gas car they gone all electric

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Why on earth would you junk your car because the model got discontinued?

[@hoodman420]

Yet the Mustang live on with a V8. ​@@MikeLowrey8990

[@1SYCRYD]

Ha, this isn't new, the cooler is made of cheap plastic. DORMAN makes an aluminum one that fixes this problem

[@kkp9068]

Just replaced mine on my jeep wrangler jk the oil cooler housing was cracked and o rings melted

[@Olds_Pwr]

Dorman makes a lot of cheap junk.

[@1SYCRYD]

@@Olds_Pwr used alot of these coolers from dorman. No issues yet

[@andybub45]

Sad when a company that makes junk like Dorman actually fixes a major automakers common problem

[@thethomasj1795]

LOL DORMAN to the rescue??? LMAO!

[@russcudney1469]

Fix it again Tony. (FIAT)

[@XShadow705]

Stellantis owns it. Has for years

[@v4lhulme]

Just another idiot that doesn't understand that Stellantis owns a shit ton of companies. Fiat is only 1 of them

[@Olds_Pwr]

I suggest to keep up on who owns who these days.

[@kmathew5712]

FIAT - FFFFING ITALIAN ATTEMPT AT TRANSPORTATION

[@jr1885]

😂😂😂

[@PowerStroker7]

Chevy and Ford both have a police package SUV. They may cost more but they are 100% more reliable.

[@steven4315]

And they are American companies.

[@fordgtguy]

100%, Ford and Chevy have both proven themselves for SUV police duty. Dodge is turning into a joke. This is what happens when you go for the lowest bidder.

[@ltwig476]

@@steven4315 What does American companies even mean? Stocks of companies are owned by whoever in this world can afford to buy stocks or have a 401k. Autos and their parts are built all over the world. Most all so called foreign manufacturers have auto plants all over the U.S. Does "American companies" now mean only the ones our government chooses to subsidize with our tax dollars? Kind of seems like a gangsta scam?

[@Chrissimpson-oo4qx]

Toyota got some great vehicles to that last a long time in can take a beating and keep on going

[@spatulaman2753]

The Fords are NOT 100% more reliable. They’re have been plenty of engine and transmission problems in the Explorers.

[@fytghggyungf7601]

Nothing like that good ‘ol Chrysler quality 😂

[@justin_grindley]

Shout out to Stellantis for making the cops easier and easier to evade

[@mxtv1258]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@normanott644]

Someone didn’t do research on what they were buying. Wonder how much kickbacks were paid.

[@thumperjdm]

Government contracts go to the lowest bidder. Unfortunately, it looks like ISP got what it paid for.

[@monitor1725]

@@thumperjdm not always

[@Kyle-Pressley]

It doesn’t matter what police vehicle a department buys, they all break, I’m with a major metropolitan department and we have all explorers and 30% or so go out of service within the first 10k miles to fix a major issue

[@dangthatstuff6887]

@@Kyle-Pressleyyeah but the point here is the Indiana state police entire fleet of dodge Durango’s new are going out of service faster than your departments explorers no agency can perform their task if they have a entire fleet of vehicles having mechanical issues on the daily.

[@monitor1725]

@@Kyle-Pressley I wonder if it has to do with "made in the U.S." since America is no more.

[@vistazo9]

Ouch ! Stellantis wake up ! Don't go the Boeing way ✈️...

[@jimmyjimjims7483]

The Chrysler 3.6L Pentastar we call "the boat anchor" at the shop I work. It's VERY common for the oil cooler housing (located in the "V" valley of the engine) to fail, its made largely of PLASTIC and it gets hot so it frequently warps and the o-rings begin to fail causing the oil cooler to mix coolant into the oil. VERY poor design and vehicles like the Chrysler Pacifica have an equally stupid EGR cooler that is beginning to do the same thing. When these aren't destroying lifters they're popping heads and when that's not happening the oil cooler fails...junk

[@googleusergp]

100% correct. I helped my cousin replace one on his 2014 Grand Caravan with the 3.6L V6 and it was a headache. It was a fairly extensive job and he had to pay list price for the part because it was during a short supply time. When he arrived to get the OEM part from the dealership the guy said, "You're just in time. I was going to call you and tell you I had it sold over the phone for a premium over list price. These things are like 300+ units deep on backorder from Stellantis".

[@kevinrice7635]

Failure at 100 k gaortee

[@biosupdate7449]

​@@kevinrice7635 "gaortee" bro what

[@kevinrice7635]

@@biosupdate7449 a mystery

[@Le_Dislike_Button]

It doesn't help that this 3.6l engine is likely overstressed in it's application as a Durango highway patrol vehicle too. Brilliant design decision there

[@travcpt3238]

Just imagine how it is for a regular person to deal with big corporations 😮

[@joeshmoe8952]

If it’s a Dodge, leave it in the garage.

[@fgdgrddsew2]

If its a Dodge, dodge the salesmen and buy something else.

[@2010hyundaielantra]

No, you should drive it (back to the dealer and ask for your old car back)

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

Mopar, mo problems.

[@215rwg]

when you take perfectly good oil cooler and try to save 15 cents per unit at production

[@carlos-ik1pc]

well the union wants $35 an hour for an entry level worker with no skills, the money has to come from somewhere to pay Cadillac salaries and insurance

[@215rwg]

@@carlos-ik1pc It's been a Chrysler thing since before Daimler

[@hoodman420]

0.15 per unit times 150,000 units is $22,500. That's not pocket change and is almost enough to buy their cheapest vehicle.

[@waynetaylor8082]

​@@hoodman420 Once lives start to become lost due to this vehicle being broken down, that $0.15/vehicle is totally unjustifiable. Wouldn't you agree?

[@215rwg]

@@hoodman420 15 cents times 10 or 20 short cuts takes $3.00 off the cost to produce and turns a $50,000 car in to garbage. Charge me the freaking quarter for something that's going to survive.

[@kengray5793]

Wait until they have to replace a headlight on those Durangos. The entire front end has to come off. Dodge has gone off the rails.

[@paulsmith5611]

That's true of many new vehicles. That's not uncommon at all. Many times you can squeeze out the headlight without taking off the entire front bumper cover and trim. But darn close.

[@ch92594]

Yeah sorry but CDJR technician here and you definitely do not have to remove the whole front end. That may be what service information says, but anyone who knows what they’re doing can easily figure out how to do it without removing the bumper.

[@CDPhemi]

Massive lawsuit! Do it!

[@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032]

Yeah Mopar needs to go away for good... nothing but trash! At least the old Dodges were good minus their transmissions!

[@hoodman420]

​@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032dodge hasn't been good since the 80s

[@TheSpyder699]

Dodge are garbage drove one never again garbage mechanic

[@deplorablelibertarian]

I rented a dodge one time…I swore off stellantis after that ‘adventure’. I’m not getting into it, it was that awful.

[@christo1212]

They didnt consult a single mechanic before spending that money

[@biometal770]

HAHAHA clearly

[@slevin1136]

Police and fire depts rarely do when purchasing replacement vehicles

[@churchyandfriends]

It’s because they don’t think. All they care about is making money and ruining lives by arresting innocent people for victimless crimes.

[@hookin1]

You would think that the police version would have an external oil cooler, not using the one combined with the radiator.

[@louiscongionti2394]

its not on the radiator its attached to the oil filter housing .

[@brassmule]

The civilian version does not have a radiator oil cooler either, so your comment is very low knowledge and entirely misinformed.

[@brassmule]

​@@louiscongionti2394Ironically when the Dorman replacement part is better than OE.

[@hookin1]

@@brassmule Well since I haven't bought a new dodge since 2002, that is the only reference I have. You could have just said that first part.

[@hookin1]

@@louiscongionti2394 Ah ok, So is it part of the housing, Or external like the transmission cooler mounted in front of the radiator?

[@Speedy2222]

Unfortunately that is the state of stallantis and what they see as the norm.

[@danielstewart8339]

Why are other departments not having the same issue?

[@tastyorange]

@@danielstewart8339 They probably are... or will if they got vehicles with the same batch of engines.

[@danielstewart8339]

@@tastyorange the vehicles have been getting issued since 2018. Do a quick google search and tell me you find similar results. I dont give an ish about Dodge, but what do you think is more likely, major company ruining a nationwide $$ bonanza on cop cars, or a group of twerps playacting has public servants tried to juice their vehicles?

[@ThePaul1551]

Now you know what civilians have been dealing with dodge and their don’t give a crap attitude for years Welcome to the club of Brotherhood

[@claylyons6447]

Sounds about right. Many new cars are plagued with issues. Sad considering what they cost.

[@tonyfarrar1218]

This is not a new issue with these engines. As a tech, I have replaced dozens of these oil cooler/oil filter adapters. Average cost of repair is around $1100‐$1300 and takes about 2 hours to complete.

[@goenitzlopez2076]

Wtf you charging 500 an hour. Must be nice

[@maxheadroom224]

​@@goenitzlopez2076part is about 300

[@maxheadroom224]

​@@goenitzlopez2076and you have to flush coolant and engine oil.

[@pauljanssen7594]

Basically the oil coolers need to be replaced before they're putting service with all aluminum.

[@IndridCool54]

For the 3.6 liter Pentastar this is a well known problem. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@leecrumble3921]

Same with rocker arms and head gaskets, lol.

[@6letter247]

As a mechanic who’s knows the actual problem I’m laughing 🤣🤣

[@jddj6376]

Whats the problem?

[@Yoboymatt69]

@@jddj6376 the oil cooler I personally think they tighten them too much cuz they don’t care about the 28 nm which is hand tight

[@howlinwulf]

My son had to pay out of pocket over 2000 bucks to replace the oil cooler and guess what it had 7000 miles on it. Mysterious that its not covered by the warranty.

[@subaruamazon]

wow.

[@justlucky13]

get a lemon law attorney!!!

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

This has been a FCA problem for years. It should have been a class action lawsuit years ago. 3.6 have problems

[@GeneralHawk505]

Should have kept the Vic going

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

body on chassis sedans need to make a comeback in general. A modern 5.0L crown Vic would be an amazing police cruiser. Especially if Ford ever decides to go forward with their 5.0 interceptor package that is twin turbo’d. They’ve talked about it for years with a potential buyer being the CHP.

[@GeneralHawk505]

@@AppalachianMountaineer1863 Oh we all know it. Its why i still have a dinosaur of a vic!!!!

[@jimprior5700]

A very common problem with nany Crysler / Dodge models. Cheap PLASTIC oil cooler parts, replacement costly.

[@biometal770]

This oil cooler issue has been ongoing for years. When you make a part out of plastic (when it should be metal) this is what happens.

[@USMCgunner5811]

Can we move this comment to the top please.

[@imfloridano5448]

It's a defective oil cooler that stellantis cut cost by changing the distributors designs. Stellantis is running the 4 brands into the ground

[@objective7042]

Fix it Again Tovares.

[@MarkPalmer1000]

The same old cheesy plastic Pentastar oil filter/cooler assemblies that have been an ongoing issue since their beginning, that they refuse to correct. Let it be a lesson learned.

[@Junkyard_Dog]

Should have never stopped using the Crown Vic.

[@user-jc3pq6qf7g]

Ford should make the crown Victoria again and sell those to police agencies. They were reliable and fast. That was Fords biggest mistake to stop producing the crown Vic police cars.

[@Shrubzy]

It'd be awesome if ford brought back the mercury brand, would love to see a marauder pursuit vehicle

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

@@Shrubzydidn’t Florida have undercover marauders? It might’ve also been Georgia that had them.

[@Shrubzy]

@@AppalachianMountaineer1863 oh they did, i should've referred about ford bringing back the mercury brand for a new marauder pursuit vehicle

[@ThomasGriffin-zn1rr]

It's not if the plastic parts they used to house the oil cooler that's under the intake goes out, its when, I've got a '13 challenger that just went out last week in fact with no warning. Wasn't even aware that these are prone to leaking oil or coolant. Dorman does make a cast aluminum replacement for the "Polymer" POS part the factory has installed. I'll fix mine with Aluminum replacement parts & Never buy another Dodge or Related product Again.

[@Darjan_Spasojevic]

Chrysler needs to recall those plastic oil filter cooler housing.

[@anicapandzic7593]

Greetings from Scotty Kilmer !😁😁😁😁

[@googleusergp]

Leave it to Stellantis to design a 3.6L V6 with a plastic oil cooler which as others stated warps and causes leaks. The actual OEM "test" is to take a popsicle stick and put it in the valley of the engine. If the popsicle stick fills up with oil to a certain level, the cooler is bad and needs replacement. I did one along with my cousin on his 2014 Grand Caravan and it wasn't a very hard job, but it was extensive. Gives credence to the old Dodge acronym, "Drips Oil, Drops Grease Everywhere". As I noted in another post, at one point they were over 300+ units deep into national backorder and dealerships were charging a premium over list price to get the part. Yes, there are aftermarket versions, but this is a job you don't really want to do twice......

[@ThomasGriffin-zn1rr]

Thermostat and timing covers on pentastars are made outta the same polymer garbage.

[@googleusergp]

@@ThomasGriffin-zn1rr Indeed. Lots of bottom barrel components. We often rent Pacificas on business trips. They are fine for that and quite roomy and nice to drive, but I wouldn't own one.

[@robertjay0515]

The 3.6 is NOT a Stellantis designed or engineered engine. It was actually signed by Mercedes back when they and Chrysler were together. When they split, Chrysler got that engine as part of the deal. We've had 4 of them in different Jeeps and a Promaster van. Not an issue one with any of them while we had them although the oil cooler/filter housing is a known problem area. Replace with the Dorman aluminum part and you're good for another 100k miles. The 3.6, if taken care of with 5k mile oil changes can easily go 300-400k miles before major engine work. Do these Durango's have the 3.6 or the now discontinued Hemi V8? I would think a state trooper vehicle would get the hemi....

[@googleusergp]

@@robertjay0515 Stellantis owns it now, provides parts for it, so no matter where it came as far as original design, it's a total piece of crap. Absolute junk. Everything is plastic under the hood and it's bound to fail. It exudes cheapness and bottom barrel quality. My cousin's vehicle is a 2014, and by then FCA owned them and was overseeing the assembly. Toyota called---they're laughing at the 300-400k mark because many of their engines easily attain this. So can a 307 Olds V8, among other GM products. Stellantis has a long way to go before they can be considered a "quality" automaker.

[@trumpet12345]

@@googleusergp its about good engineering to avoid having to compromise with certain expensive or ecomaterials and methods. Gotta check you on toyota champ. twin turbo v6 recall. o ya, remember their frame replacement disaster a decade or so ago or whatever? Anywho, remember GM did the nasty and awful cheap methods, but their steel aluminum welding research did breakthrough to not require the glue.

[@BakerStudiosIndy]

Never had these issues with the Crown Victorias and even the Tahoes and Explorer Interceptors were far better vehicles in terms of reliability. Stellantis/Chrysler is renowned for reliability and quality control issues.

[@ericthesoldier]

🙏🏾 Amen, That’s why I Ford is really dumb

[@claylyons6447]

My thoughts exactly. Chrysler products in my opinion have been garbage for a long time.

[@tastyorange]

I followed the Chrysler Pacifica owners page on FB for awhile because I was interested in buying one. I'd have to be out of my mind. Head gaskets failing, transmissions failing, suspension parts failing, oil coolers cracking... many with less than 80K.

[@atx-cvpi_99]

The fifth gen V6 and Ecoboost V6 Explorers have that issue with the coolant mixing with oil

[@googleusergp]

@@tastyorange Great rentals because they are not your (the owner's) problem. After the warranty, throw them out. That's the case with most if not all Stellantis products.

[@MattCustomsRC]

Yes all aluminum blocks with plastic oil coolers in the center of the engine, what can go wrong. Dorman makes all aluminum cooler conversions fyi

[@user-jw5yj6tj8s]

It’s a dodge. Should have known

[@marcussterling4954]

Odd, since both Durango and Charger come with same available engine packages, 300hp V6 or 370hp V8…… Nothing like the 95’ Caprice though, ran like a beast with that 5.7 LT1!!!👊👊

[@VoteForBukele]

I see everyone is mad at Stellantis. I’d be more interested in knowing which bureaucrat got the kickbacks for selecting an f-ing Durango for a police cruiser. 😐

[@asporner]

As stated by somebody else, you couldn't get the explorer for a while and they already were on the Dodge brand by then and I am pretty sure some of the drive train parts have similaritities (such as the pentastar engine) -- so not sure why this hasn't developed issues unless it's SUV specific back when it was in the charger.

[@MichaelBrown-yp1eq]

what do a financial company know about designing and building automotive vehicles? get rid of that stupid oil cooler on the oil filter housing and put it where it has always work the best. in front of the radiator.

[@nickcooler2658]

They don’t care lol

[@CH-FILMS]

If you want a SUV get an explorer like everyone else. I mean there has to be a reason why every department has them. They are like the new Crown VIc

[@marcusg9954]

You couldn't order any Ford Explorers for a while. Leading agencies to order from other makers like Dodge and Chevy.

[@IKhanNot]

The 2020 and up aren't bad but are underpowered with the 3.3 V6. Very few departments are opting for the Ecoboost because of the complication although they are faster. The older Explorers with the 3.7 V6 had water pump issues which would leak coolant into the oil (internal water pump) and didn't hold up.

[@thomasross8862]

The explorer has another issue with the water pump inside the engine block, you don't know you have a problem till it's too late.

[@blotto3204]

Should have kept the chargers

[@jeffclark5024]

How dare you compare those explorers to the bulletproof crown Vic’s

[@darrininverarity4297]

Stellantis should have kept the charger,that dodge Pursuit was a solid refined automobile.

[@bluntsandburnouts]

junkyard is waiting

[@TheMELTDOWN911]

the 3.6 L oil cooler problem should be a major recall I own 2 2015 Chrysler 200's I have replaced the oil cooler 3 times in one and 4 to the other one... is really sad, honestly that is the only issues I have had since 2015 when I purchased both

[@ADKOverlandNY]

Those of us who own jeeps have been dealing with this for years. It's not if, it's when the oil cooler will start leaking. No recalls, no help, no nothing!

[@TheTarrMan]

As a panther driver all I can say is . . . Ford probably would have ruined that by now too.

[@gregorystell6858]

I know what the problem is. They're Dodge. Only thing dodge is good for is keeping tow truck companies in business

[@srgtwigpusha]

I just changed my plastic oil cooler, the most stupid engrneering decision ever, the seals are rubber too, in the middle of a hot engine smh.

[@hassanmeraj8037]

what a disgrace, even the Govt agencies are not free from the corpoate greed

[@John-1984]

1st- As the old joke goes, there's a reason they're named Dodge. 2nd- I'm sure Stellantis would change their tune if the AG got involved and started an investigation.

[@TheMW2informer]

The local department in my small town (4.500pop) uses Durangos and they haven’t had any issues for the 4-5 years they’ve had them.

[@thumperjdm]

A small agency probably (not always the case, I'll admit) doesn't run their vehicles as hard as a Highway Patrol/State Police, who multiple times per day are pedal-to-the-metal 100% maximum acceleration from 0---100+, catching up to violators on the highway. Much harder use on the powertrain compared to a rural department.

[@dangthatstuff6887]

Yeah but those durangos were probably made in a different year than these new ones the Indiana state police have.

[@IKhanNot]

Hemi or Pentastar?

[@markwilliams6378]

​@@dangthatstuff6887Like the officer said he had no issues with the chargers with the same engine

[@tastyorange]

Maybe they were made before Stellantis took over and started sourcing to lowest bidders. Stellantis took over 3 or 4 years ago.

[@DonaldLade]

DODGE I HAD ( ONE ) of them once. That’s all it took to know what junk is!!!!

[@h.r.jackman2777]

That mechanical failure is called Stellantis.

[@agordianknot]

When you buy a Dodge, you should always sign up for the weekly parts replacement mail order option. You will receive parts every week for as long as you own the vehicle. If you don't need the part, you can donate it or give it to someone who does need the part. I'm surprised you weren't informed of this option when the vehicles were ordered.

[@williamlowe2046]

Should have bought Ford.

[@sportmode6438]

Ford isn't any better, they have mechanical issues too and cops complain they're not fast enough

[@maximusvonce1381]

​@@sportmode6438My 900wheel built boss supercharged Mustang will rape your shit in reverse.

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

@@sportmode6438Ford is much better than dodge or GM, and they aren’t fast enough because departments are too cheap to buy the actual interceptor package. Opting for the standard engine and transmission which is not suited for the added weight of a police cruiser or the added abuse that they are subjected to

[@Banterlion-vw4mx]

Chevy Sonic has the same problem turbo oil line cooler backs oil up into radiator

[@CRAPO2011]

Daewoo Sonic, those Korean gm products I've always been wary of

[@googleusergp]

@@CRAPO2011 The 1.8L (non-turbo) engine is a Daewoo engine, the 1.4L is not. Yes, Daewoo/Korean components are used in the Chevrolet Sonic, that part is true.

[@kenro-96]

This is not isolated to isp.. it is nationwide!

[@Zerobar78.]

They’ve had this issue with the oil coolers for years now, no surprise they still haven’t fixed it.

[@davidkerl1431]

Why would they pick Dodge vehicles when they have a GENERAL MOTORS plant in Ft. Wayne???? Support the local work force Indiana! damn

[@atx-cvpi_99]

GM has been having lifter issues lately and also transmission issues as well. Ford also have transmission issues as well.

[@googleusergp]

Because if they want the Tahoe or Suburban, those come from Arlington, TX, not Fort Wayne.

[@BigGuy10Points]

Money

[@ChrisM-gv2st]

GM cost a lot more than Durangos

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

Generals motors isn’t much better, my company just sent out a memo stating all new company vehicles will be Ford Motor Company only, no exceptions. Last 3 GM vehicles the company has dealt with have all had power train failures, multiple motors and transmissions swaps and they all average roughly 120,000 miles each.

[@user-ig9fv7vl7p]

That's what you get for buying Chrysler products they've been junk for many years

[@billybob7891]

They better call "mad mopar man". Only real ones know who that is.

[@SB_Outdoorz]

Wait until they realize the warranty will not do a dang thing to solve the issue. They will just replace the recalled parts with the exact same part. I use to work at a dealership and so much ridiculous stuff goes on warranty work.

[@jeffclark5024]

Ford should’ve revamped the crown Vic and had an engine op of the 5.0 or the ecoboost

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

Yes and with Ford’s concept twin turbo 5.0 they’ve speculated building in the past for CHP and as a replacement for their 6.2L gas V8s in the Super Duty lineup

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

Why didn't they buy Chargers again?

[@robertmdls4591]

They were discontinued

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

Because chargers have been discontinued.

[@damham5689]

They bought chrysler products. What did they expect. .😂😂

[@1stsgthall]

Bruh everyone with a Durango at my department be having problems

[@jakano80]

Terrible vehicles to buy.

[@Banterlion-vw4mx]

It's due to the Orings deteriorating.

[@ltwig476]

O-rings don't deteriorate in less than one year. Silly! This is a faulty engineering problem with cheap aluminum castings, wrong style or thickness of head gasket, too small of diameter head bolts. cheap head-bolts that expand and contract. Not bringing the engine up to operating temperature and then re-tourqing the heads and many other issues that can go wrong to cause head gasket failure while an engine is put under more uncommon stress. They sold them the same junk engines rated for general consumers. Typical Republicans skrewing the tax payers so they can keep giving breaks to the wealthy. Why not just purchase cheaper Kia junk, if you want our 1st responders driving junk?

[@rotaryenginepete]

@@ltwig476 it's not head gasket failure, it's a plastic oil cooler failure designed by Democrats 😂😂😂

[@patrickm977]

Show them my O-Face!

[@brassmule]

​@@ltwig476yes, it is o-rings, on the plastic oil cooler. None of what you just blabbered on about has anything to do with the issues they are having.

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

O ring failure, damn it’ll blow up just like the Challenger

[@AustinTA-cd9rs]

I went and test drove a brand new Ram Classic Warlock. Beautiful looking truck but the steering wheel when driving straight was slightly to the left! The salesman tried to say it can easily be fixed, but at that point it lost me. I was done. Pretty crazy that a $60K brand new truck has quality problems before it leaves the lot. Stellantis is going downhill fast. Other than the Ram trucks and Jeeps, I don’t know anyone buying a Chrysler or Dodge anymore.

[@trumpet12345]

Dodge and Chrysler essentially both have 1 main product each :\

[@aidenschvatkok5732]

Some of the classics are made in mexico so might explain something. MX ones vin starts with a 3, murican ones 1C6RR

[@Alejandro456484]

Are these the 3.6 or 5.7 ?

[@edbern7387]

I see that Stellantis who makes Fiat and Dodge has brought the Fiat quality to all its US products. "Fix And Repair Daily"

[@GlamrockFoxy]

“You’re thinking of a FIAT Dale”

[@bigd1223]

Dodges are worth nothing used for a reason.

[@idahomike]

I work around a lot of officers. I don't think I've met a single one driving a Durango who didn't complain about it. Totally unsolicited, just started talking about how terrible they were. I've yet to hear anywhere near the same comments about any other police vehicle.

[@Norby312]

For any mopar vehicle, I recommend aftermarket parts 🤣

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

I’d recommend a different brand, preferably one that is only 4 letters

[@Courtney1992]

I don't know what to tell ya buy anything else it's all turbocharged pieces of junk

[@Annoyedspoon50smith]

Should have bought Ford Explorers, but no, we've gotta have v8s

[@johnnydancy5535]

Oil coolers have always been a problem with durango since twenty eleven

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

These are clearly lemons. The state AG should force a buyback with interest paid.

[@ericthesoldier]

And so it begins smh…. Just go to Tahoes

[@AWDfreak]

The last pursuit-rated body-on-frame non-pickup offering, the Chevrolet Tahoe PPV. GM and Ford do offer pursuit-rated pickups, but it doesn't have the same convenience of an SUV. Too bad there aren't any other pursuit-rated SUV's, most of the offerings are crossover vehicles (such as the Ford Police Interceptor Utility and the relevant Dodge Durango Pursuit).

[@AppalachianMountaineer1863]

Nah they don’t want transmission issues or a 30,000 mile engine

[@matthewcaughey8898]

Coolant mixing with oil is usually a head gasket issue. Fixing it easy use a separate external auxiliary oil cooler

[@datmanz5890]

these have plastic oil coolers, nothing to do with the head gasket.

[@ltwig476]

I don't get what your'e saying? Are you saying delete oil passages to the head? Sure, $150,000 race engines have external oiling ports with tubes running through a cooler. . Somehow, you must both cool the heads and oil the head components. A crack in the gasket causes the coolant to leak into the head and then mix with the oil needed to lubricate the valve components. You must cool the heads and oil the components. The answer is better engineered gaskets and head bolts. Except not all that simple. Cast aluminum tends to expand and contract much more than steel. So both better regulating temperature and higher quality aluminum/nickel castings. Larger diameter ARP head bolts. All this at expense to consumers. In general, the police intercepter engines were built stronger than what was put into civilian autos. In this case, it seems the manufacturer sold them some cheap consumer junk. If the tax payers are footing the bill , why not some cheap KIA junk?

[@IKhanNot]

It's the oil coolers that are the issue. They crack internally and the coolant that's supposed to stay on one side to absorb heat from the oil on the other side gets mixed in.

[@markg7030]

@@ltwig476 The oil cooler is in the radiator according to this report. Many automatic transmission cars also have a trans fluid cooler in the radiator. This has nothing to do with head gaskets or bolts.

[@HebrewJerusalemPrince777]

Has nothing do with a head gasket.

[@revampted]

Are they Pentastar v6 or Hemi v8?

[@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq]

Congratulations! Indiana has discovered why my last Dodge was a 1977 model that ate transmissions

[@your_royal_highness]

The mistake was buying a fleet of vehicles from Stellantis.

[@iee4g6]

And to think I considered buying one…. The Hemi civilian version, I mean.

[@jeffs2809]

reasonably sure these are the v6 versions. The v6 is know to have issues with the "plastic" oil filter housing/oil cooler mount, but I can't say for certain that's the case here.

[@evanshireman5644]

The V6 is the only engine with this issue, and it isn't only the durango V6

[@jeffs2809]

@@evanshireman5644 read article from another place that it’s actually the Hemi that has an added oil cooler as part of the police package.

[@crowdsfavorite4660]

Im a mechanic for amazon with the 2020 ram pro master they have these same v6 engines that are horrible. Oil and coolant mixture comes from a failed oil cooler gasket. Both oil and coolant passes through the oil cooler. The oil cooler sits ontop of the engine in between bank 1 and bank 2 and leaves a pool of coolant/oil mixture there. And eventually it makes it’s way through the edges. One good way to detect a failing oil cooler gasket is by looking ontop of the transmission and if you see oil or any wetness at all, more then likely your oil cooler has failed. It’s so common on these v6 engines stay away from them

[@mxtv1258]

Isn’t that the same problem Ford had with the 2016 and 2017 Focus RS? The put the wrong gasket on the engine.

[@whuffer5103]

Ah, they produce the forbidden milkshake