Ok. Lets talk about Harsetti. Her impact, mechanics, and counters

[@TristenWulf]

Caveat: Though its the same doomer comments and panic about an OP unit that we see every time this happens i am in no way saying Harsetti is fine. All the units I mentioned have been bad for the game or caused imbalance. We move past them. We find techs. They get crept. Metas change. But that does not mean that in their time that are anti-fun. Harsetti on paper looks anti-fun. I expect her to be a "have", "ban", or "get f'd" unit. And thats not ok. But we don't REALLY know how her unique kit will interact with units or what will be her playability in testing. Bottom line is she is here and i would rather E7 push meta shaking units than boring vanilla non-hype kits. Lesser of 2 evils i guess. Didnt mean to make light of legitimate concerns. Only to calm the insane panic that always associates with meta breaking units. Evolve, Adapt, Overcome, and if none of that works... ban and send feedback to E7 to fix the mess they made. GL out there.

[@jennytee1975]

Just an FYI, En Passant doesn't get the eff chance from skill up or SB. So it's technically 75/60 or 100/60. Keywording Gambit effect chance.

[@rig4O4]

New skin unlocked: Tristen-freaking-out-Wulf

[@papaya9072]

Those math skills when calculating the 90% of 124 speed where insane!!

[@DeadlykiIIer]

90% of 124 90% means 10% less so move the decimal over one spot - 12.4 take off the 100, we don't need it right now 24 - 12 is 12 12 - 0.4 is 11.6 put the 100 back on 111.6 :)

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

That isn't hard to calc

[@ditokelio7860]

​@@DeadlykiIIer that looks confusing to me Just say 90% of 100 = 90 90% of 24 = 21.6 (24-2.4) 90+ 21.6 = 111.6

[@roxas4587]

​@@ditokelio7860I'll do ya 1 better 90% of 124= 124 - 12.4= 124- 12 - 0.4= 111.6

[@DeadlykiIIer]

@@ditokelio7860 fair enough, I guess I should have just simplified my explanation 124-12.4 124 - 12 - 0.4 112 - 0.4 111.6 I saw the 24 - 12 and ran with it since it's a familiar calculation. That's the great thing about math, there's a million ways to do it and everyone sees the numbers differently.

[@Sakookie]

Harsetti feels exciting. She completely changes the way the game is played, it’s so fun. I’m so excited to find new solutions to this new challenge or to get to play with her if I get her (hopefully).

[@TypaTiminBloodyBeenOn]

I pulled Designer Lilibet and I was sad, but not anymore

[@TristenWulf]

woohoo!!!!

[@h34dbug92]

I pulled her last month too.

[@MedAmynM]

even if zio's cr push was affected by units, harsetti would still not be able to stop it since he pushes himself at the start of the battle not during her turn.

[@Trigeno]

I'm also assuming that she screws anybody with "damage dealt proportional to caster's speed" in their skills

[@TristenWulf]

yep - like blooming lidica.

[@adamcallaghan2135]

Ml laika, ml krau, kawerik, ml lidica

[@StarsOfPleiades]

Vildred, green Cidd

[@Animelover-gf1re]

My 295 eligos😪😭

[@zenuhell]

Ran

[@ShahzebAsh]

You listened to Tsu's advice? XD That Thumbnail is funny 😂 Thanks Mr Tsu for having Mr Wulf make that banger of a Thumbnail.

[@TristenWulf]

😏

[@xFlow777]

Notice nothing on her kit says she can't crit, AND she pens 100% defense on s3..... yeah 😱

[@TristenWulf]

yikes

[@firestorm502]

Summoners Wars has this mechanic from a long time ago, it was the wind dragon knight who limits the other monsters speed to his own, also the 90% of the speed will be the TOP speed that you can reach, so any other slow unit bellow Hagsetti total speed will remains as the last one in the list, you can also take vantage of this

[@TristenWulf]

yeah - Leo i think was his name. I believe Harsetti patches a lot of Leo's weaknesses

[@r34l1z3r]

well leo isnt as powerful as harsetti(he didnt have those aoe), but speed limit didnt break the game and he didnt even became meta unit. The major difference is that in SW turn order was preserved and we see it shuffled in demonstration.

[@firestorm502]

@@r34l1z3r yeah of course she is way better than Leo, but as you said speed limit has not broken the game and the other things like the anti counter and CR push limit are already in the game so… if the spd limit will not break the game, not sure why the uproar, btw she will be a great unit and a big headache hahaha

[@abdulzaelani9954]

​@@firestorm502it's only became an uproar because 95% of players plays cleave. For the rest 5% people that play bruiser or turn 2, harsetti do nothing, even if you play against her Here is the biggest different between both game, in SW multiple meta can coexist at the same time, Bruiser, cleaver, debuffer are all equally meta. So if you play Leo, just play bruiser or control then, nothing change In epic 7, there will always be 1 meta and 1 meta only at a time, it's like cycle. Now is clever, tomorrow is bruiser, yesterday is control, they can't coexist together, so when a unit that kill 1 current playstyle exist, people start treating it like a second coming of Christ despite the fact that other playstyle also exist

[@Fmeakey]

LMAO 1:12 * PANIC MODE ACTIVATED * 😅

[@TristenWulf]

RUNNNnnnnnn!!!!!!

[@aliashfaque1746]

I dont care how busted she is on skills, i care how busty she is on design

[@TristenWulf]

based

[@_shibe_7150]

a boss character being an actual boss character even as a playable character

[@ashleylara7127]

It’s Solitaria season !!! 🧝🏻‍♀️👸🏼💅🏻🙌

[@kuzilgaming6112]

I love the perspective dude. I agree, let her come. I'm ready!

[@nifilim3787]

Thank you so much! My english is pretty mediocre, and i was totally confused, reading her skill set. But now it's clear for me. I think Harsetti change a lot things in pvp, and a lot of characters get a usage now (i mean slow units, like aMeru or LQC). And even more, now, ton of my dupe ml 5,i can build special for her - slow and tanky

[@AllentheNiNjA]

Epic Seven is starting to get close to Magic The Gathering. Haha. Wording is very specific, extremely important, and must be heavily deciphered. Regardless I still love both. PS: Tree of Genesis guides when? :")

[@rickyxiong3946]

Damn she lookin fine for us players who has been unlucky with speed gears, even out the playing field.

[@MyOnlyYans]

Pull 2 (since imprints are guaranteed), build one base Speed and one fast. When she's eventually taken off everyone's prebans, the mindgames will be nuts.

[@TristenWulf]

Only first one has guaranteed imprints. Dupes do not.

[@MyOnlyYans]

@@TristenWulf this is good information that I doubt many know.

[@drewmunoz1212]

@@TristenWulf what does this mean?

[@gauvainhawk3380]

Honestly, while I of course can't predict the future so there's no way to know for sure, as an er gamer right now I feel far, and I do mean FAR more confident fighting Harsetti than I am fighting Luna or Nahk-stupid-wol. And if I get screwed by omega eff builds? Then that's fine by me, I'll always be far more accepting of getting debuffed and beaten by units that actually put in the eff to do so

[@caseymurray2959]

Great video on the next bomb incoming. My beef, as a long time f2p player is that you don’t get a seat at the table for periods of time. I was lucky enough to pull zio and moona in a timely manner, but I whiffed on Candy and was squarely outside the meta for a while. I like the model warframe used (uses?) where the p2p is primarily QoL and doesn’t disclude people as heavily, though it did get a bit too rep grindy for me over time. Oh well, hopefully the mechanics that follow are fun to play with

[@arisurec]

Hagsetti will be a welcome addition to my harem.

[@sahxb.]

Its prolly the vice versa buddy Kappa

[@PhoenixWright-oi4ud]

Okay gooner

[@nustaniel]

I don't worry too much. I got both fast and I got slow and bulky units. If someone were to have Harsetti on the team, I can use bulky units instead. There's also always the ability to use Zio and ML Roana to ignore her fully. Or Zio and Jack-O' for that matter. A bit harder for RTA, but certainly easy enough to draft up in Arena and GW if someone are silly enough to try Harsetti on a defense team. And then there's the ability to preban her if I don't want to potentially deal with her in RTA. I think it's a neat concept personally. A cool story-boss ML kit like the others have had. She's not something that will make me quit. I'm more excited about something this potentially meta changing (when she's allowed play). The rhytm game we just had made me uninstall with rage though, after 6 years of playing. If the anniversary weren't right around the corner and as good as it is, I wouldn't have reinstalled and likely would have quit for good. Anyways, if Harsetti is enough to make you quit, that means all your eggs are in a Speed-contesting basket. What do you do when people preban one of your speedy units? Do you just give up? Build some bulk units, it's actually a lot easier to build than high high Speed since the rolls are higher even when they roll unoptimally. Our 300+ Speed units can still be used as per usual when Harsetti is not on the field.

[@liquid2141]

Leo in summoners war has a similar passive and he often get's paired with verdehile which is similar to fire schuri to in order to cr push and get turn advantage on enemies in a slow grindy match. i could see the same combo doing well in this game in the right context especially if you build a bulky counter set schuri. hoping to pull her but my luck has been too good recently so it feels like the bad luck will come at the worst time...

[@Erothaur]

I actually think Harsetti is really interesting. Once we have a few more counters, I feel like she'll be good to have in the unit pool

[@mallowynn5062]

the problem with the forceban on harsetti is that we allow all kinds of disgusting things into rta that we usually ban like landy, jenua, ml luna and such. it's gonna be a nightmare until they start selling the solution

[@TristenWulf]

yeah its almost like we need a 3rd preban or something

[@christiangaborno9449]

I can see edward getting a resurgence after harsetti drops. Bbk is also a good counter play against her or even ml ken both having high eff ress its not like she's broken af

[@j3die]

We just gotta get guud, easy clap after that

[@tekarthobbyist9598]

😭 my green landy has now lost rights to her own name.. that's have terrifying her ml version has become lol

[@xhydrox]

Tsurin is kinda meh. She just does dmg and then what? At least Delibet cleanses and pushes your entire team up so all your turns will be before an enemy goes. I can see her working really well.

[@TristenWulf]

silence is a thing

[@xhydrox]

@@TristenWulf I mean yeah but why isn't she used now then? She just isn't great, using her into Harsetti feels forced just to take the turn after her, with not as big of a benefit as Delibet.

[@menzstudio7930]

You can put Summer Iseria or ML Aramintra after Tempest Surin S3. Delibet can't remove immunity if you using debuff team.

[@ImRaging7F]

Any opinion on the unit changes or had any testing done? Judge kise feels worse.

[@abdulzaelani9954]

Her damage decrease by roughly 10% ~ 15%. She does get more free stat (Crit imprint + Ignore ER S2), so you can allocate more on damage or speed but she will still never be turn 1 unit (Even tho she has same base stat as flidica, flidica is still easier to build, you can put her gear to Kise and Kise will just be debuffer at that point and even then the fastest flidica is still not the best speed contester) Oh also if you build her full speed dps don't expect her S3 to reset anything. So far I only use her for ignore ER AoE def break, but even in that regard Briar witch is still better for that role (no miss and counter revive) I won't say she became worst, she is already bad to begin with, the buff just make her more easy to build but she will still never be the best at anything

[@Sephikoden]

Personally, I think she doesn't warrant a "Nerf this unit now". I only see this as a reason to force a draft of bruisers against her but realistically she has counters like Roana, ML Ilynav, and injury. She enforces the tempo basically.

[@RoseZ7323]

Wouldn't Evasion characters work well? Like Adin & Violet Also high RES people like Fire Kayron & Dark Karin Because theres no guarantee she will hit and they will get the chance to punish after her S3

[@cd6583]

since she doesnt need speed and passive even after death, you can build like 300 eff and guarantte debuffs

[@DHGcrimson]

i love the thumbnails

[@tratamarack441]

I miss the time where seaside bellona was the most problematic thing they had created.

[@vladingue8503]

gotta love the little 360 at 1:22 LMAO

[@animenerd1106]

ML Roanna can go in front of Harsetti if you have Zio so Harsetti can go 3rd. That is how you cleave w/ harsetti. If you have souls, you can soulburn Zio and Roanna and push up ML Ludwig to the front and either kill everyone or bring eveyone super low for Harsetti to kill.

[@elzaforte]

Does this mean you can technically counter Harsetti with monsters from the story since her passive can only limit heroes?

[@TristenWulf]

any units controlled by or built by a player she works against. Using story monsters still means they are units used by you and are therefore considered PVP

[@jeanlourenco7001]

Dilibet was the first ml hero i pulled the first day on my new account, and she's been left alone since then. Maybe it's time to use her now.

[@yuutashuichi4420]

Fenris is coming out soon , what he does seem like the protag for this ep 5 . he's gotta have some mechanics that are helpful againts her

[@baohungle5410]

I expect Zio + Harsetti + ML Roana + whatever in every Arena & GW Defense. Consider how many people actually play RTA, PVP in this game is pretty much doomed.

[@NeverLuckyE7]

Came here to show my support for what you did for Grass Angel!! Thank you @TristenWulf

[@m7md_je]

1:44 🤣🤣🤣🤣 👌🏻

[@__-be1gk]

Zio stonks rising Wyvern stocks at an all time low Elbris stocks plummeting

[@eity8027]

I think ilynav will be great against her, its true she cant cr push after her turn but the pen resistance and cleansing is great. Also she will lap everyone all the time with her passive

[@KALClFER]

People always cry, remember them crying when SC Carrot came out, AOL and the list goes on forever. I only got upset at SG when they entertained the idea of censoring Aria.

[@PhoenixWright-oi4ud]

Which they should still do bc shes actually hard to look at

[@omlett6482]

what you can do actually is use an unmola'd, Base Spd Zio. He's slow enough to not hit the spd cap of a base spd Harsetti but his passive will push him up by enough to cut everyone else besides Harsetti, and then you use that Zio to set up the cleave with. The only problem is actually having a Zio without Mola in his S2. Another idea is also Cerise, AoE Slow and restrict and lots of self push and GL in case she loses the spd rng

[@Zackhit]

Why use an unmola zio that goes after harsetti if you can just use a full mola zio to get first turn?

[@watawatan0w]

I really want her but only have 300bm and I haven't played the game for 2 months. Not that I'll start playing again... But try my luck for pulls because that's always fun

[@tekarthobbyist9598]

Was hoping for an analysis of demo game 2

[@tobyandfriends08]

I love how most people will pull her cuz she strong I will pull her so I can add her to booba collection like aria

[@d34dm0uth3]

I wonder if he'll stay on the video long enough to see Zio go, and then Pull ReqRoana to an immediate turn BEFORE Harsetti...lets...find out.

[@mznauiq6471]

Your luna is insane man

[@Roofi64]

I was wondering if I should use my 10k mystics for Illynav or should I save for Harsetti. I got Illynav from one ten pull. When Harsetti comes, I will have them both. Also, great thumbnail Tristen XD

[@torynothing4719]

Looking at her kit, to me its indeed interesting. But what make her broken is the god darn stupid "speed rng" exist for some reasons.

[@DeRizzlo]

This unit is so fking rng, theres no way to 100% this defense in gw or arena 😢

[@RikuJN]

A lot of your recent videos are about being dismissive of valid complaints. Whats the point of that whole bit at the start if you know the unit is overpowered?

[@saokatedo8570]

What will happen when you fight a high speed Harsetti when you are a base speed Harsetti? the speedy one got the priority on her passive? 🙃

[@Living_Target]

Waitin for people to run Light achates with the artifact that pushes up for debuff down lmao. Edit: Called out in the video lol

[@tHeViDe0W4tCheR]

The wording is kind of confusing but I think you should be able to seal it. Only caster speed part says its fixed and still I think seal will cancel it out otherwise whats the point of seal.

[@abdulzaelani9954]

This is indeed need to test, but then again with Sylvan sage buff a month ago we figure out that they might start making passive that "technically" can't be sealed. It's SG, they don't shy on breaking mechanic to sell broken unit You could expect alot unit moving forward don't even has passive, or has their passive tied up on active skill so it's considered not passive (like ML Baal push is not passive, Handguy self cleanse not passive, etc)

[@ditokelio7860]

You can seal but at that point it isnt that much of a problem, I don't think games will last long when people can put all their speed into other stats. So the initial equalisation is the problem rather than low speed because will probably die before turn 2 anyway

[@Infinity_Shot]

4:59 Wtf are you talking about? Once a passive is sealed it ceases to function. This is an undeniable FACT. You don't inflict a permanent effect that can't be removed. Just like with the revive block, when Biseria dies, you can revive again. Stop talking nonsense.

[@rhemaamenkhienan9220]

Why so aggressive ?

[@Infinity_Shot]

@@rhemaamenkhienan9220 You are too young to understand the meaning of the word "aggression".

[@jeffl4147]

does elena not counter? harsetii s3 is an atk which should proc her s2, unless sealed ofc if elena has a cr push she doesnt get it, but she does still cleanse 2 i think

[@yan7821]

Elena s2 doesnt cleanse. Her s1 and s3 cleanse, you can give s2 a 1debuff cleanse with doctors bag, but since she wont get the push, she can do something, but not entirely handle it

[@TristenWulf]

it procs a cleanse IF you have doctors bag but not cr push. just like with AOL

[@DucknoopCUE-ql9xi]

The discusting about this unit is every unit that can counter her can be in her team also

[@tonbo4887]

In the second battle how come Requiem Roana went before her?

[@pablonavarra8781]

Her extra attack is like farting if you slow the video

[@goooodenzo]

Harsetti’s chest cannot compete with Wulf’s forehead

[@jihadoraif]

I would make Harsetti base 124 speed to make it more fun as youll never know the order. PVP will become 15% in terms of turns.

[@xanxaxin]

' what worthless little creature'. Thats about right Harsetti

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Her passive should be resistable because if they get prenerf zarato treatment people will just run her 300 effres to avoid zio don't need eff unless you got certain characters you don't want countering. Plus this kills Revenge set not just SPD set it actually just cruel a set that barely gets use just got bent over

[@OneMoreDesu]

Going to cook a team to go slow, leave her open, and build her at 295 speed to bait people into picking slow

[@Fabricio1515]

dilibet bout to come back like gandalf the white

[@shadowstar9284]

the greatest part is i don't have pulls saved

[@AdrianBigyes]

Peak panic. Peak acting. 😂

[@DeRizzlo]

They need to rework that rng shit with her kit cuz thats fking bad for both players. As if we nid more rng in this damn game😢

[@ditokelio7860]

I dont think she's that strong. NML and ML Poli are better. The problem is that she changes the whole match and adds loads of uncertainty. We will see i guess

[@budutsdurets74]

base harsetti will nullify speed related damage dealers

[@MothCorpse-x1w]

How about a 3 eff res set Harsetti? Will Zio still be able to stop her?

[@MothCorpse-x1w]

With bulk and effectiveness, also on abyssal crown lol

[@reiyuu3624]

Since her passive says her speed is fixed, i assume everyone's speed is fixed too and speed buff or rage buff doesnt increase the speed of your allies and harsetti or am i wrong?

[@TristenWulf]

You are correct. Slow works but not speed

[@reiyuu3624]

@@TristenWulf if harsetti is 300, does that mean all units will be 270 despite their actual speed being 200 (assuming their original spd stat is sub 270)?

[@tinarex1173]

If only she had any extra turn in her kit so bunny dom could be the solution

[@andrewfuertes8798]

I'm scared not being to get her. I'm only gonna have around 5k to roll for her!!!!!

[@imperdus3502]

14:10 gotta tell you, destiny made the choice, not me After getting the ml senya i could only watch the solites, ml luna and ml ilynavv banners passing by and wonder where i failed in my choices by losing absolute units to get one of the best sidekicks to bm haste, and now they both can be countered by ilynavv. And now it seems i'm being given the chance for the get back again and so be it, may chaos take the cr bar

[@rhemaamenkhienan9220]

😂😂😂

[@user-rv4xz4ie6m]

you're me , and i am you

[@Nielb4me]

So when we getting a unit to balance this out that caps all HP to 8k at start of fight to cripple all the Bruiser players teams?

[@xXMasterJ360Xx]

Harsetti kit is literally a Yugioh Card

[@fridayonyekachi6517]

Similar to leo in summoners war

[@raewyn4250]

14:08 Thanks

[@luismaldonado9006]

What about revenge set, cause she fixed speed at the start of the turn, but revenge increase speed after it?

[@abdulzaelani9954]

The fixed speed is permanent. You can see on the demo BBK that has passive increase speed on low health dong get faster at all Instead of thinking she make everyone slow, just think of it like she make speed cap, like Crit damage cap at 350%, no matter what you do it will never go above 350%

[@TristenWulf]

she breaks revenge set. its even more useless than before

[@TristenWulf]

speed is fixed at the start of the battle permanently (not at start of turn)

[@HMHS8]

so what happens when there's 2 hersettis?

[@hanzulco]

Do you think she's better with dmg (like 100 crit 350 crit dmg) or focus more on her anti counter?

[@szilardenyedi2855]

How to cleave with Harsetti: 1. Let the opponent pick it on 1st pick. He will pair Harsetti with slow units. Pick cleavers, ban Harsetti, no speed contest at all, easy win. 2. Opponent doesn't pick Harsetti on 1st pick. Don't reveal you are cleaving until the ban protection. You pick Harsetti and build her 280+ speed. Your cleavers will be toned down to 250-260 speed. It's easier to speedcontest you, but there is no way the opponent is going to pick speedy units when Harsetti is on the table. Opponent bans Harsetti: gets cleaved. Opponent doesn't ban Harsetti: still gets cleaved. Easy win. Harsetti is a warranty that cleavers will not get speedcontested and can get away with slightly slower units.

[@seldrick6717]

Bruh why are they so scared of her if we have Gloomyrain at home lol to throw back her debuffs xD

[@soze2440]

idk, I think eternus might actually work?

[@draudeky4508]

thank god i have 1 guaranted sumon =

[@fchaucha]

Zio into Requiem Roana Combo should still work no? It's not Harseti turn.

[@BaoChen-r1i]

Isn't she what another ML Vivian could of been?

[@abdulzaelani9954]

Nah i will never pre ban her, she only kill cleave, if you play bruiser or turn 2, everything is fine. Just like how her enemy turn are scrambled, her own team also get scrambled Speed harsetti? Let me say thats dumb. "300 speed harsetti, your bridge 270, anchor 250, as long as your enemy below 260 or 250 you will always goes first" Did you realize how dumb that is? Even without harsetti if your entire team is 260+ and enemy all below 250, you will ALWAYS goes first, so what even the point of harsetti there 🤣 I like the theory crafting part, but honestly you guys always on the mindset of cleaving, making her like end of all, despite the fact that if you play bruiser you can just play normally even against her (anti counter is niche, people think its strong because they hate candy, but for majority of unit that doesnt even do anything, and you can always cleanse anyway since your counter will always be the slowest so your laia can just cleanse. Again, play the mindset of turn 2, not cleaver, if opponent play bruiser and you play bruiser nothing gonna die turn 1)

[@ditokelio7860]

I wonder what happens when NML seals her passive 🤔

[@TristenWulf]

absolutely nothing.

[@ditokelio7860]

@TristenWulf would they not get their speed unlocked? And be like a race? So if they are 1% behind they could overtake if the speed difference is enough?

[@julianorodrigues4914]

Hi, so quick qiestion Much like the Frida bug, my game simply stops when i try to fight Harsetti on 10-8 Just so i know, is it only my game? I tried reinstalling, but it didn't really work

[@naveedsiddiqui7157]

Like that hat

[@kote9388]

ppl scared of leosetti, no way man.

[@RoseZ7323]

It may seem like Eternus Supports and/or Light Achates wont work but we still have to see We have to consider, sometimes its a minor wording mistake because they didnt have any unit so far where it mattered til now Im not convinced this is a "Minor spelling mistake, I win" kinda moment just yet But i can see why you say this Releasing a ML 5 into already a few counters may sound bad But when you think about ML Luna released into Eternus/Sole Consultation Supports & Light Achates all being available so maybe it can work against Harsetti too Funny to me tho That this old 4* Artifact is the answer we need to every new bs released lol

[@rhemaamenkhienan9220]

They may or may not work Since they proc after her turn It's debatable

[@danielhalse9514]

I stopped playing RTA 2 or 3 seasons ago, not enough time to keep up with all these kits and remember the meta for a phone game. Also with Arena change I full auto that without looking now. So GWs is the only place I will be playing with her kit. The kit is annoyingly PvP focused so I will not get much use out of it but close to pity and love the look so will get her.

[@decilence6184]

Imagine if the hard counter to her is Operator Sigret rework😂

[@Bruhmoment-ko2zf]

Havent used mystic pity in a while. Guess im getting my first ever ml boss. Cant wait to not play her.