Okay but Who is Mrs. Afton REALLY? | The Missing Five Nights at Freddy's Character

[@GingerIntrovert]

The craziest part about the whole Ballora theory is that Scott didn't even write Ballora's song, her voice actress did.

[@lilacpenguin5329]

wow, that's incredible, i didnt even know that. cool!

[@Irina-lv5bd]

That and the song is actually longer than what is played in the game.

[@Lunablues23]

That's cool!

[@sirphrog5126]

He did tell her to include certain things or words, in the interview she did with dawko she stated that she wrote the song with his instruction and input as well

[@snowballskies5857]

Lmfao are you fr

[@ohwow6881]

fellas, is it gay to construct a life size "sexy" animatronic that sings to you lovingly and who many people interpret as your wife but it's actually inspired by your completely platonic business partner

[@jaidthestar2816]

maybe a little...

[@aleksa11916]

Nah

[@bilis2866]

This is the sort of fandom logic shippers get into

[@Handlelesswithme]

If that business partner a man then yes

[@sukasuru]

this series has so many ways it accidentally makes those two gay its so funny

[@remingtonfiore9721]

I feel like ballora’s song is being taken way too figuratively, she could just be singing to the workers “hiding” in the walls while ballora is trapped in her room with no children to entertain or parents to distract as the sister location never opened. She’s essentially trying to lure the guards in her room to kill them. This would explain why she seems surprised that someone might be in her room at the end of the song when she says, “is someone there”.

[@HorrorHomestead]

I love this

[@afenilove5897]

exactly what i was saying 😭😭 she’s a creepy animatronic it’s a creepy song. she can see an empty room bc she’s IN an empty room, there’s no more joy bc it’s now a rental service instead of cbpw and there are no kids to bring joy, there’s music in balloras halls bc she’s a ballerina and therefore it is good to dance sing and fly away.

[@kitsunemusicisfire]

You... Do not study fnaf lore all too much, huh?

[@remingtonfiore9721]

@@kitsunemusicisfire simplicity does not equate to lack of knowledge

[@kitsunemusicisfire]

​@@remingtonfiore9721ignorance does though

[@Eric_I_Guess]

Fellas is it gay to portray your former business partner slash rival as a busty woman asking for a friend

[@ImmortalAbsol]

Maybe Mrs Afton still lives in/returns to England lol. To fly away, the accents came from somewhere so there might be a house or extended family there.

[@yelloverthinking]

If people are assuming balora is mrs afton because woman, then uhhhhhh the therapist is mrs afton because british

[@pencilonpaper1026]

amazing

[@Awsome2464]

I know this is a joke, but I'm fairly certain that the therapist(s) share Ballora's VA

[@uncanny.mp4]

Idea (according to staffbot dialogue): If William indeed quit his job and started working at Fredbear's, which was already an excisting diner, then it makes a lot of sense why PhoneGuy in FNAF 2 said original owner, not owners. Henry is the one and only founder of Fredbears. William was just an employee who made his way to the top and made friends with Henry,

[@simplyhoodie]

I like this theory. And it actually makes a lot sense when you think about it. This is pretty much fanfiction because we have very little information about this era, buuuut. When Fredbear's Family Diner opened it was JUST Fredbear. Fredbear was the only character/animatronic (Golden Freddy?), then William from Afton Robotics sees a business opportunity to join up with Henry, to bring his new state of the art "springlocks" system to the public stage. It could be why William was so attached to Spring Bonnie, that's HIS creation. He introduced this character into he successful franchise. It would also explain why there are seemingly two Fredbears, the yellow bear with black accessories and the golden bear with purple accessories, matching with SpringBonnie's purple accessories. That explains why there's a yellow/purple Fredbear in FNaF 4 despite the artwork of Fredbear outside of the restaurant is yellow/black, as well as the yellow/black Fredbear on the menu from security breach.

[@porcelainchips6061]

Theory - I think FNAF4 actually tells us the story of CC AND Mrs. Afton. It goes back to the pill bottles and the flowers; you are prescribed and given pill bottles when out of a hospital, not while in a hospital. There is a vase of tulips; Tulips have a heavy connection to spring and to Mothers/Mothers Day (in the US). Depending on how sick you are, you can have an IV line outside of a hospital (associated with being terminally ill / receiving hospice care / end-of-life care at home). The bed in FNAF4 is a double or queen-size bed at minimum; an adult-size bed, not a bed for a young child. The dressers are also adult-size pieces of furniture a child could not access and their are family pictures on the walls of the bedroom; which would be more common in an adult parent's bedroom then a child's. The end of Ballora's song mentions "flying away", which could be a metaphor for dying, passing away. Ask yourself... Why is CC always crying? Why isn't his mother there to comfort him? He has absent father and a brother who bullies him; there is no mother there to stop the bully or protect him from it. Why? I think Mrs. Afton's main purpose is to be missing; she's not there, so the two brothers are running wild. She's not there; so Elizabeth dies. She's not there so no one can stop William from running the fear experiments on his last surviving child... She's not there so the Aftons can collective fall into madness and nothing is there to stop any of it. And I think she's dead because Willie becomes easily fixated on death and jumps on board with wanting to experiment with the haunting phenomena; if he was already jealous of his partner, if he already had violent thoughts... If he then lost the person who "held them together" then maybe at some small suggestion that there is life after death; maybe he'd snap and go down the route that the games depict?

[@lordpuddle9639]

Wait I actually love this interpretation it makes a lot of sense, especially considering that FNAF is capable of telling two stories from one outlet. It also could explain some other stuff- is Michael acting out because he wishes his mom was there to get him in trouble for it? Or because he doesn't know what to do with how he feels? The rotating items on the nighttable could very well be indicative of multiple hospital stays or multiple people, which I say because I really do think that FNAF4 is still somehow also intended to be CC, although the fact that her song ends prematurely with the phrase "flying away" could be telling us that she passed away prematurely. It could also be seen as CC's spirit looking for or entwining with his mother's because that's his only other experience with death. Maybe William left the tulips on Mother's Day so that Mrs. Afton could comfort her child from "the other side" (death)? It does make a lot of sense that William is already obsessed with death before CC- he couldn't save his wife so now he needs to save his son, it's likely that he had already done some of the research pre-bite. I just realized that she could also be what's in the box, in some way or another: maybe she was cremated, maybe it's a letter to her children or William, I'm not even sure what because this just occured to me but it would make a lot of sense for it to be some indication that she died and her family was left in shambles, maybe even that she was an ("an" not "the") inciting force of a lot of the madness we've seen. Pardon my rambling, this all hit me at once and it's hard to put into words😅

[@jonathanhibberd9983]

Also, if CC was in a coma, how could he swallow pills?

[@porcelainchips6061]

​@@lordpuddle9639 Notice also in the SB staff bot family that the mother-figure is at the head of the table; the place of honor. In seating arrangements the head of the table is a position for who is "in charge" of the family / responsible for keeping things together. I want to point out that normally that position is given to the father out of "respect" and tradition/expectation (even if the wife does everything, the head of the table is the "protector" / the one who will stand up and shield the others from danger)... But in this "family" the father-figure is sitting at one of the secondary/supporting positions. This suggests that the mother figure is meant to be the "leader" of the family pictured. Traditionally, the mother sitting at the head is not dis-allowed, but is seen as "unconventional" enough that it's considered a profound statement about that family's dynamic.

[@porcelainchips6061]

@@jonathanhibberd9983 This is true; pill bottles AND an IV does not make sense... Unless someone was on Pills and then it progressed to an IV line and the progressed to flowers as a sign of condolence for a loss.

[@Abedtips]

It could’ve just been a “the other parent died young or left when the kids were small” situation but Scott couldn’t help himself from depicting her everywhere past fnaf4

[@kitsunemusicisfire]

She's been mentioned plenty. She's literally represented by Ballora in sister location EDIT: IM TIRED I MISSED THE LAST PART STOP BULLYING ME ILL XUM

[@Joe-gz1fr]

@@kitsunemusicisfire You'll WHAT?

[@caldercockatoo2234]

How is Mrs. Afton "depicted everywhere"? The only time she's even remotely implied to exist is the STAFF bot family in Security Breach.

[@caldercockatoo2234]

@@kitsunemusicisfire No, she has never, ever been mentioned. And no, she isn't "literally" represented by Ballora, that is a theory that may or may not be true. Also no one is bullying you, what are you talking about?

[@caldercockatoo2234]

@@Joe-gz1fr What are you so surprised about? They never said they'll do anything.

[@alexinitalics188]

Quick side note about Ballora's design, she's not wearing fishnet tights. For one thing, they aren't tights if, y'know, they don't cover her whole legs. But more importantly, they're clearly more of a reference to how Ballerina's lace their shoes. (Usually, they are only crossed once and tied just above the ankle but, stylistically, they're usually shown as being laced up to below the knee which is what we see here)

[@protoplasm-1]

I think you lit some kinda fire in me when you opened the video with, “I enjoy covering objective facts, cannon, and speculation”. A lot of theorist channels I watch tend to cast their lot in only one of those 3, or they will do all 3 but try and present as if all of it is facts. I ADORE the way you present information, explain relevant concepts, and then use those as a jumping off point to make educated guesses at certain uncertain things. It’s all basically exactly how I would talk if I were to make theory videos.

[@FTZPLTC]

Proposal: the "empty tomb" could be literal - in the case of Elizabeth, her body is not found, so any "tomb" would have to be empty. Sounds dumb but then, so is FNAF sometimes.

[@lilacpenguin5329]

never would have thought of that, makes sense.

[@braybray2269]

@@lilacpenguin5329in all honesty that’s the first thing my mind went to i’m not sure why this hasn’t been proven

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

I doubt that, nobody makes a tomb for a person whose body wasn't found. They're just consider disappeared

[@friendlyxfire6783]

But wouldnt Ballora have been built at the same time as Baby, Before Elizabeth died.

[@FTZPLTC]

@@friendlyxfire6783 Good question: do we know that?

[@frenchfries2998]

No matter what anyone says or try’s to refute I think it’s pretty confirmed that mrs Afton does have something to do with ballora, whether it just be she was made based on Mrs Afton. I mean the security breach note room has representations of ALL the family members and then a blue haired rosy cheek women. Blue hair is a very specific color that no one besides ballora has. Baby- The red pigtailed staffbot that gives ice cream. CC- Staff bot without a head. Mike- Worked at multiple Freddy’s locations. William- I guess his is similar to the fnaf 6 Alley poster where he is a ventriloquist. Leaving just the women staff bot with short blue hair and rosy cheeks because there’s no members left it’s automatically assumed to be Mrs Afton.

[@emilynoel00]

was looking for this comment. shocked it was not touched upon

[@maffise2669]

I think it's worth mentioning another thing in favour of ballora being mrs afton: every other main animatronic in that game has a direct parallel with an afton (albeit not just the dead ones). There's a big freddie that carries a little bonnie, and CC was killed by a fredbear while carrying a plushie that William talked through (who performed and later died in a bonnie suit). We know Michael used to dress as Foxy to scare CC. Baby was probably built for Elizabeth. That leaves Ballora.

[@lilacpenguin5329]

that's what i was wondering, too. im glad somebody brought this up.

[@survivordave]

I think the idea of Ballora being connected to/symbolic of Henry is a much farther stretch than her being connected to/symbolic of Mrs Afton. It gets even weaker if you consider that apparently Ballora's voice actress wrote her song, not Cawthon. If it was a vehicle for conveying deep lore, I don't think Scott would have left writing the song to her. I do think a more literal interpretation of Ballora's song is probably correct. It makes more sense as a song Ballora is singing about being stuck in an empty auditorium for years upon years than it does as a song Mrs Afton is singing about her marital/family situation.

[@carimeslockdownedtree2654]

About the voice actress thing, she _did_ get instructed by Scott on certain things to add to the song (or so says a comment in here - I'm planning on watching the Dawko interview soon to confirm that fact), so there _could_ be some hints of lore here and there. But I do agree that a literal interpretation is most likely the way to go, for it. It fits so much better that way and it's _way_ less of a stretch than assigning her a lore vessel of any other character.

[@bigrigjoe5130]

I find it hard to just dismiss the links between Ballora and the Aftons. It's called Sister Location and is about William Afton's son (the only time William's name is mentioned in the entire series of games) going to find his sister, with the Golden Freddie Plush referencing the crying child. Then in that story there's a prominent female anatronic who wears purple and is depicted as being motherly with her "kids" while she sings a song that fits perfectly for Mrs Afton and WIlliam. Henry wasn't even mentioned until Pizza Sim (unless you count FNAF world but suicide guy being Henry is a theory) and Sister Location isn't about Henry at all. It's overtly (more so than any other FNAF game ever) about the Aftons. So saying her song is about Henry feels like a big reach. Thematically, I feel that Ballora representing Mrs Afton just makes Sister Location's story stronger. Her representing Henry is just kinda random to everything else that's going on. Feels like the kind of thing UNC Mr Hippo was warning people about.

[@Alkeeros]

Which means Funtime Freddy and Fubtime Foxy represent two more children we haven't met, right? To me, Sister Location was all about Circus Baby. Like how 4 was all about Dave. Yeah there is a lady animatronic but I don't remember her being motherly to the others (but I've never played and I only watched Markiplier play it when it came out, I could be misremembering) I also think the song fits Mrs. Afton and William perfectly only because people have headcanoned that relationship from the song. What other evidence has the game given about Mrs. Afton's relationship with William? Mostly she's defined by her absence which can be caused by all sorts of things (unhappy marriage, death, illness, trapped in the mirror dimension, Abducted by aliens)

[@elmonextbot]

if there are no gibi fans in the world then im dead

[@JD-gn1oy]

I'll be your lifeline!!

[@Roxson_]

The whole 'being dead' thing

[@reddie1705]

Bro cut straight to the case

[@HandsomeCR]

You’re dead

[@Momo_Minomo]

I think Mike is represented with the Balloon Boy staffbot because as a child he was a bully who loved to hide and laugh before he jumped out and made a lot of noise to scare CC and that's pretty much exactly what Balloon Boy's function is in FNAF 2. He won't hurt you himself but he can cause you to get killed by one of the other animatronics because his presence and laughter causes the others to gather at your location. That's a pretty accurate description of what happened with CC and the bite of '83. Also I'm pretty sure Ballora made that song up and was singing directly to workers to lure them out. She was created specifically to distract and lure in prey but she's been in that empty room for years now. The workers are literally hiding behind walls since the only way into any of the galleries was by crawling through the ventilation shafts IN THE WALL. I don't think Ballora was originally made to represent Mrs. Afton but the nanny staff bot being the same shade of pastel purple with long lashes and rosy cheeks as Ballora was probably Scott and/or Steel Wool using the community's assumptions as a shorthand so we'd understand immediately who those staff bots were representing while making her different enough that it didn't actually confirm those assumptions.

[@HannahBanina]

One of many things I love about Mike’s monologue at the end of the _Sister Location_ Custom Nights is the fact that even *he* sounds kinda confused about what “put back together” is supposed to mean lol

[@leafjuice9206]

i always thought the ‘empty tomb’ was a reference to the fact that william defiled corpses - like he used his kids’ bodies for his experiments

[@JinxeBlaq]

59:46 I mean. Mike worked as the night guard, a fazbear employee, for most of the times he’s appeared. It actually makes sense for him to be represented by that bot.

[@bowserattacks9796]

i feel like the family in Security Breach is very easily the Aftons. The Ice Cream Bot- Very clearly Baby, which is Elizabeth The One Without A Head- Also very clearly the character with head trauma who relates to Baby, CC The Worker- Mike is known to work, he works in FNAF 1, FNAF 2, FNAF 3, FNAF FFPS and kinda sorta SL The Magician- William has been compared to Dr. Frankenstein multiple times, even in this video. He is a magician, he is creating life, it’s magic. The Woman- it’s the weakest but in the context it’s Mrs. Afton

[@saiden6421]

I think the stipped outfit represents Michael in the way as while yes William clearly had a job with the pizzeria, it was Michael that got the jobs in the FNAF games usually in an entry level position which a basic stripped uniform and spinny hat would be part of a basic entry level uniform.

[@murilog.p.1383]

1:00:49 that conversation wasn't actualy intended for the staffbot family, it was an easter egg just outside the kichen that would feature 2 staffbots as the parents and 2 wet floor bots as the children, the closet mentioned being a small supply closet that the "children" where inside of.

[@bimpadimp]

59:00 i think mike being a "worker person" kinda makes sense bc he is the security guard u play as in the very first game, he's very much known for being an employee in that regard. but i agree this couldve probably been depicted more clearly

[@williamcolt1073]

i don't no man, i think she is using tomb in the sense that she is feeling trapped in a loveless marriage and looks at her house as the tomb in which she is going to grow old and die in.

[@wirginiamobillio]

She could have been talking about Elizabeth though, not herself

[@RayThePixelated]

When ballora says "to fly away" i can imagine her spinning like a helicopter and literally flying

[@a_world_worth_living_in]

The fnaf Lore is so cursed that when you were saying how William needed a "biological Female" my mind went to the dang story in the books about Mpreg. OK now that I reminded people of that image of MatPat giving birth to Plushtrap, I can watch the rest of the video

[@seongsangyerdam3488]

what book is that. for science

[@Rose_Haw]

​​@@seongsangyerdam3488 In the flesh why do I know that off the top of my head.

[@yeethaw5816]

personally I think Ballora's song is meant for children, to calm them and is just singing a childrens song. the thing about empty halls can be her calling over kids so one can stay in the same room as baby so she can catch it or to distract a parent

[@Notjo6200]

The Afton Staff bot voice lines were actually meant for a different pair of staff bots in the kitchen. So it’s not relevant information to the Afton’s, it’s just a gag.

[@plushthefox]

[Edited to condense the message and eliminate unnecesary yapping] You had me with the biblical stuff until 37:40 Assuming that every piece of fiction has biblical inspiration is equally as absurd as assuming nothing does

[@Cammycam182]

I took the its so good to sing all day part as putting up a facade. The singer had to pretend that everything is alright while the "you" character is off doing something else

[@just_that_fan7796]

Another thing I like to point out is the relationship between Circus Baby and Ballora, during the events of sister location Ballora is the only character we see who rebels against Baby's commands; shes never on stage, shes eager to find the player, and is the first one to be scooped while Baby goes on about how Ballora never learns meaning being scooped is not only part of the plan to be free but her consequence. Which means Ballora and Baby have somewhat a not on good terms and Ballora being spiteful of Baby's commands. Adding on the fact since Elizabeth IS Baby during the events before and after SL Elizabeth gets separated from Ennard if we see from a common view Ballora doesn't stop the other funtimes from being separated from Baby, so if Mrs.Afton WAS to be Ballora she would've stopped the others from being apart from her own daughter; but she doesn't meaning Ballora is just possessed by a spirit or remnant. Also sorry for any grammar or spelling errors just had to point this out.

[@theslotherin1831]

Counterpoint, perhaps the reason why ballora was the only one to rebel is because she is her mom and isn’t gonna deal with her kid bossing her around. In addition, Elizabeth/Baby and her counterparts have been characterized as “daddy’s girls” who are manipulated by their fathers for example Pizza Sim, the Vanessa therapy tapes and Vanessa in the Fnaf movie. In the the therapy tapes specifically Vanessa is manipulated by her dad(🚩Bill🚩) to lie in the custody court case against her mother, who then potentially unalived herself. Yeah, I know Elizabeth isn’t Vanessa but they are obviously meant to be counterparts with similar looks and stories. There is definitely tension between mother and daughter which perhaps in their remnant infested robot afterlives carried over into ballora and baby.

[@just_that_fan7796]

@@theslotherin1831I get what you’re saying but it will logically make no sense for Mrs. Afton being ballora because she would somehow have communication TO Elizabeth but we see non of thag throughout the series, Scott may be vague at storytelling but he wouldn’t leave out a detail like that if it were to happen

[@monstrdog7031]

An amazing breakdown! No stone left unturned! Fanfics are fun, but mrs afton is the dining room

[@bLo0dY_pANc4k3S]

38:25 my idea of "an empty tomb" was the empty graves of the dead kids at Freddy's that go on to be stuffed and posses the animations having the picture at the end of fnaf 6 (I think) and obviously the bodies would be in the anitmationics not the graves . Im kinda bad at explaing but hopefully you get the idea :)

[@dnidaz2553]

so.....Henry is Afton's wife...?

[@1Tombb]

Well, it is June after all 😍😍😍😍

[@Belial289]

it's canon, it's in the lore.

[@sukasuru]

this series and its theories always finds a way to make these two accidently gay its so funny

[@ApocalypticJay]

consider if Ballora's poem being sung by the fnaf 1 animatronics to a night guard. it still makes sense. if it's still directed to William, it's sort of like "we're possessing these robots in a place full of children and joy and we made them happy as entertainers." and then William being stuck in the safe room as spring bonnie or soon to be

[@mannyegarica12]

21:54 It also means before Afton met her she used to be a dancer. Have we got more circus stuff after the newest VR game. The only traveling circus/carnival we know in the game is Fall Fest. In VR the game you win a poster called Fall fest 1970 it could have been the first time William met her and started a relationship. But is that long enough to have enough time to have 3 kids by the year 1983 well having the oldest being a teenager? 🤔

[@PhilieZ_YT]

15:30 Ok,I have a theory that might sound logical or not.What if every one of those 4 animatronics in SL was made for one of the 4 members.Baby was made for Elizabeth because she even says this.Crying Child likes Fredbear/Freddy a lot,so Funtime Freddy might've been for him.Michael is associated a lot with Foxy,maybe Funtime Foxy was made especially for him,and finally maybe Ms.Afton was a dancer or something like that,and that's why he made it.

[@RoozleDoozle-9210]

I think the empty tomb line is just ballora in her own room in the underground facility, she’s the one entombed but other than her the tomb is empty of others, probably specifically kids to entertain

[@toaster7423]

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[@thecluckster3908]

36:42 I want someone who hasn’t watched the video to jump to this time stamp randomly

[@kaymaybeokay]

i think the idea that "empty tomb" is supposed to be an allegory for resurection is a bit flimsy, and the structure of the poem is indicating that the empty room is metaphorically a tomb with no body in it. if you interpret ballora representing either mrs. afton or henry, you can extend the idea that the empty room couplet represents the not being able to get rid of the pain of a child's death. if you take ballora to be a representation of mrs. afton, the empty room is CC's and will is hiding due to his grief and desire to bring his son back. with this intepretation, the third couplet of the poem (imo) shows mrs afton avoiding the pain for her own sanity (good) and flying away is leaving the family. if you take ballora to represent henry from william's perspective, the empty room could be charlie's. the first couplet could be henry questioning afton about why he's either put up walls or away scheming while the halls of freddy's is full of music. the second couplet is him talking about charlie's empty room after dying. the third couplet could represent henry trying to use his work as a way to cope and "fly away" from the pain of losing charlie. if ballora represents henry, the depiction of ballora could be seen as afton insulting him. the closed eyes represent him being blind to aftons misdeeds, the feminine/motherly features could be afton calling henry feminine due to being a caring person, and, less strongly, the ballorina design could be afton calling henry weak and/or dainty take in mind, i'm not taking silver eyes into account for charlie, mainly bc i have no idea how canon the stories are to each other.

[@CombustableLemon]

I think one of the biggest points TO Ballora being Mrs. Afton would be the blue/purple coloring. Yknow, William is purple..

[@MichaelMielDeLaRosa]

This was a cool in depth theory but a part of me still hopes Mrs. Afton is trying to rebuild the Afton family 😭. But realistically this theory really helped me to understand the stretch that the fnaf fandom will go to try and peice together a narritive that makes no sense lmao. W video! your channel needs to be bigger!

[@SophieStoneXII]

Maybe once divorced, she moved back to England. I'm imagining a mansion if/when she goes back, given that they [her and William] had obviously met before she was a named Afton, I can see her being a person of wealth from being in the same social circles. That's my own little headcanon about where she went.

[@Autistic._.Little]

We both believe that the woman at the dining table is Miss Afton, but then why does her design look so similar to Ballora? they both have the same color blue hair, they both have rosey cheeks, and they both have long eyelashes! If the nanny bot is Miss Afton, then Miss Afton would also be Ballora! I genuinely want to know how you would disprove my theory, respectfully ofcourse!

[@wirginiamobillio]

It's called "a symbolic representation of the ex wife", nothing more than that

[@wolfthegreat87]

great video, you're definitely my favorite fnaf theroy channel right now. glad to see someone pointing out how common biblical themes are in western media and why, too.

[@TotalleeLee]

William is trans FtM and Henry is the father. They were lovers, bad break up. That’s why Charlotte/Charlie died. That solves everything.

[@OGSumo]

Many people are saying this…

[@bilis2866]

but why william and not henry

[@sukasuru]

​@@bilis2866wym not henry? 🤨 is that a demand

[@TotalleeLee]

@@bilis2866 either one works, same result

[@porcelainchips6061]

"CC... Okay let's talk about CC" (poor cc)

[@Redghost_1206]

22:11 … I think this is why fazbear entertainment makes people sign liability waivers. Hell, I think William came up with the liability waiver so he can just kill kids and blame the parents 😂 that would be a very evil and manipulative dick move

[@Redghost_1206]

So evil in fact, that I’m laughing cuz, WTF!? Not only did you kill their baby, but you want to bring the guilt on them 😂💀 imagine if William as actually this evil. He didn’t care about his kids, he didn’t care about his career, he was just born homicidal and evil😂

[@_H1p0_]

I think the second interpretation of "Put back together" for Elizabeth is correct. We learn in FNAF6 that one of the scooper's main purposes is to extract remnant from the funtimes. Elizabeth's soul was split up by William when he mixed her remnant all up with the funtimes. Creating Ennard put her back together. This still works with molten MCI, it just means they were mixed up with Elizabeth. For CC this would imply his soul was also split up somehow, and William promising to "put him back together" is literally about his soul being divided across some group of things somehow. It's the main set up for the theory of ShatterVictim, which is the idea BV's spirit is split across the original 5 FNAF 1 animatronics + the Puppet in some versions

[@_H1p0_]

You should look into ShatterVictim, I think it's a really clever theory and likely correct

[@gemmafekete5059]

The henry stuff for Ballora makes a lot more sense. In the FNAF 3 minigame where Henry and William are on the stage it plays the music from swan lake. Idk if anyone talks about that but its an intentional choice which is interesting.

[@Lesalledebains]

It's crazy how people refuse to acknowledge the possibility of a Bible reference when Scott straight up made religion based games in the past. Even if you don't believe in Christianity it would be hypocritical to think for example Thor movies to be cool and a great use of mythology but seeing using Christan themes as "pushy" rather than a good use of the stories. To me monotheistic religions can be adapted the same way a polytheistic religion can. If you don't believe in them, then they are just stories, stories that can be referenced the same as any other media.

[@BlackCroft666]

To be fair the possibility of outrage and terrorism is very small with polytheistic religions. There are far too many extreme believers out there to go crazy with abrahamic stuff. Well with exception of japanese media since all those religions are minorities.

[@mahzo7885]

Just makes no sense within this context when Ballora is literally underground and the sister location is basically an empty tomb. Correct me if im wrong cause im just using this video as background noise, the whole point just came out of nowhere and i feel like this is a first for fnaf without a pattern to refrence.

[@Lesalledebains]

@@mahzo7885 it's alright to not believe in the theory but it's an issue to reject the theory purely because of religious themes. I'm more dumbfounded that people would keep religion and game theories separate purely because they don't like talking about religion.

[@mahzo7885]

I know what you mean, i didnt personally come at it from a place of disrespect or nonbelief etc, just seemed out there for me atleast.

[@c.r.blankenship9040]

I think it's possible if not probably that Ballora and her song represent multiple things. Could it be about Henry? Sure. Could it be about Mrs. Afton? Also yes, and both can be happening at once. What I haven't seen anyone suggest though is that the song could be interpreted as Mrs. Afton addressing Michael, not William (though again, it could be both). If Michael had shut himself off after CC's death then I could see a situation where his mother (if she was still alive at the time) tried to comfort him, but was met with no response if he just stayed in his room. Also, just to be clear, I'm not saying Ballora is literally singing about this. Ballorra is singing about being left alone in an empty hall for years - the Mrs. Afton stuff would be MICHAEL'S interpretation. Perhaps Ballora just reminds him of his mother in one way or another (perhaps she was a dancer)

[@yeethaw5816]

I think my previous comment got hidden, but have you seen the "we solved fnaf and we're Not Kidding." video by Dual Process Theory? it's really good

[@HorrorHomestead]

I watched that the day after it came out, lots of people sent it to me on twitter and someone even emailed it to me lol. Its a great video.

[@kirabey8946]

​@@HorrorHomestead I hope they also watched your video. Your theory is literally the best and most compelling theory I've ever came across within my decade long theory consuming. All people who know about fnaf should watch it. Please split the video up to 8 parts and release them in a playlist my guy, maybe it'll be more approachable that way?

[@QuestionDeca]

There is also the possibility that all three children aren't related to each other and William Afton is just a participant in the Foster system (Hence why Micheal Afton doesn't appear in any Guide or Compendium, there is only Micheal Schmidt, he may of been raised by William, but he isn't actually related).

[@carimeslockdownedtree2654]

I think the Schmidt thing is probably an identity he picked for himself. A way of distancing from his father. I could agree with CC and/or Elizabeth being adopted, but Michael's similares with William are too strong imo to say they're not blood-related, given they have the same voice and look enough alike to confuse the SL animatronics. But the other children being adopted (fostered? I don't know the terms well) would paint a very interesting picture. You two have finally found a home, finally, after who-knows-how-long of waiting for it, just for you to get killed by your own foster (adoptive?) father's creations. Somehow worse than simply being born into the wrong household, because all it took was some signed papers, and their fate was sealed. If it's biological, they could've either existed (and thus the tragedies occur to them) or they never even did, while in adoption, they could've either been adopted by the Aftons (tragedies) or... by literally anyone else (not those tragedies). Anyway, you got me thinking. Not that I believe they're adopted, but what it implies if they _were._

[@lilacpenguin5329]

The conclusion towards the end has been the most incredible collection of debunking that i've seen in the fnaf fandom! i love how all the relevant depictions of Mrs Afton were brought onto the table to scrutinize, because all the different opinions and interpretations we've had were so confusing, and i could never put into words how each depiction of mrs. afton was in conflict with each other.

[@daviddimitrov3696]

You kinda forgot one set of theories. The "completely wrong but some people still believe it" part. Stuff like Miketrap and Molten MCI

[@dyl.806]

I just found your channel and Oh my god, I learned a lot, you're so well spoken and interesting and it felt like only 20 minutes have passed and not an hour, will binge watch the rest soon😂 You deserve much more views fr

[@RoozleDoozle-9210]

17:00 I do wonder what chica’s role is supposed to be. I find Funtime Chica in general very interesting, wonder if that’s worth a video

[@Majorlydevilish]

The thing about Mrs Afton, and why I'm so interested in this non-existent character is simply because I want to know where was she? If If Michael, CC, and Elizabeth are William Afton's biological, not robot, children, then where was the Mother during the Bite of '83 when her second youngest got his head crunched? Where was Mrs Afton when Baby Snatched up Elizabeth? These are her children, so she'd most definitely have a reaction to these events? The thing is, we don't need some deep M Night Shyamalan Plot twist reveal of Mrs Afton. A simple explanation of "they got divorced after the the bite of '83, or even before the events of the series." Or even Just a "Mrs Afton unfortunately Died in a car crash or something, not long after Elizabeth's birth." I just want to know why these children were left in the hand of William Afton.

[@wirginiamobillio]

It is almost confirmed that she divorced William and took own life, since the evidence is in SB audio tape, where Elizabeths life is a parallel to Vannessas. Why else would Scott make a movie with Vanessa as Williams daughter instead of Elizabeth? There is a little connection between different fnaf storylines

[@ov-103]

i think this is a great breakdown but i don't think the song really means anything; ballora is just sad and alone. also i know scott is christian but i really, REALLY don't think that jesus connection holds any water bro

[@Handlelesswithme]

A very significant detail people overlook is the FUNTIMES correspond to members of the Afton family Circus Baby-Elizabeth Foxy-Foxybro Freddy-The CC Ballora-?

[@Lordoftheskies15]

Well they don't 😭 which one is William? Is BonBon the Fredbear plush bc BonBon is a seperate entity for the most part? What about the Bidybabs and the Minireenas? Michael himself is the player character 😭 who's Ennard in this analogy? What about Yenndo? Pretty flimsy.

[@Handlelesswithme]

@@Lordoftheskies15 William in the novels saw himself as a animatronic so why bother making one of himself if he exist

[@bilis2866]

I heard the theory that he design ballora to looked like his ex-wife, for reasons... not that she's literally mrs afton or possessed by her

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

While I agree there are lots of biblical references in fnaf, I think tomb = easter is pretty flimsy. Slang surpasses initial definitions and we typically use the word tomb to describe mausoleums, or resting places for the dead. Think of an ancient Egyptian tomb, for example.

[@carmenlynn5441]

I think mrs afton was emily afton, transitioned, and used his first name as a last, Henry Emily, and adopted his stepdaughter Charlie as his own. Proof? None, but i remember in older times, trans people would surnameify their dead name, like Adam Smith transitions to Sarah Adams. Emilys a weird last name

[@buddyzilla4557]

This poem can also be interpreted from the robot perspective. She sees an empty room, a joyless tomb. She also asks why we stay in the walls when music is in her halls. The techs remain in a control room while they test her. She is not performing for them fir entertianment, simply doing joyless work enough for that. Its no stretch to recognize the bots see the facility as a tomb for them they need to escape, and they remain in their own, otherwise empty rooms. Even when being tested for the next day, they do so without the tech technically there with them. They are still alone in that room. The comments about feeling so good to sing and dance all day are about being rented, performing and entertaining kids. They do this during the day and enjoy it but then come back to the vault every night to be shocked and isolated in their solitary confinement. I feel the interpretation is seeing the forest for the trees.

[@1SpeedyYoshi]

1:00:55 i do want to correct you on this. This wasnt meant to play here but during the part where you make Chica a pizza. You were supposed to be able to leave and go to a random closet to find another staff bot and this convo would play

[@HorrorHomestead]

do you have a link to a page or any videos that discuss this? my only source was the cutting room floor but they're not fnaf centric so they might have overlooked something like that.

[@1SpeedyYoshi]

@@HorrorHomestead I'll message you the link on twitter since youtube doesn't allow links

[@molamola9723]

I would love to see a video clarifying your thoughts on when fnaf 1 and fnaf 3 take place. It seems like a pretty hot topic in the community right now and I love your interpretations of the dates the most. Each time I want to cite your evidence for the dates I gotta go back and dig through a 9 hour video so I think a video just discussing the fnaf 1 and 3 dates would be great, maybe even the dates for the other locations too to have a full timeline.

[@covereye5731]

If you google the magician tarot archetype, you will get 'represents the power of the human mind to create and transform'. Now there's definitely more interpretations, like that of a trickster that deceives people, but all in all it's a very common archetype for villains in stories and fits William the most. I do think Mike fits looking like a fast food worker, as we know he always takes on low wage jobs. Personally I would be a fan if they didn't associate Mike with Foxy as I would like to know more about MCI kid Fritz, though Foxy was also W. Afton's favorite.

[@sarahdoesrobloxandgacha7883]

I did not expect to hear “Jesus” in this video about a game where there are kids killed on a yearly basis

[@delta6704]

i dont think "an empty tomb" had to be biblical? i think it's about how their kid cannot rest in their tomb, maybe their body, because their body and soul is being meddled with

[@ukrustacean]

Ok, so Mrs Afton is represented by Ballora. And also Henry is represented by Ballora. Guys, I finally solved FNAF: Henry is William's wife! (or I would rather say William's husband 😂)

[@TheCollector2401]

So some corrections on the cut Easter eggs of SB. Magic-Bot has been added to the theatre along with his dialogue the footage at 58:23 shows him in the game so idk why you said he was still cut. The conversation between the two bots seems to have a lot of misinformation around it. It doesn’t play at the table in the staff-bot silo, it’s supposed to be in a hidden area during the part of the game where you are a staff-bot making a pizza. Apparently you used to be able to leave the kitchen area and stumble upon a staff-bot and two floor sign bots in a cleaning or storage closet. This was supposedly changed in an update and you can no longer leave the kitchen during the pizza delivery minigame. Or at least this is what I was told in a comment way back in the day. Essentially Magic-Bot is in the game now, and this weird bit a dialogue between two staff-bots in front of two wet flood bots was originally in the game and removed in an update.

[@neverland8974]

teaching the fnaf fandom media literacy, doing the lord's work

[@TheyLuvv_Alex]

usually when a lore/ conspiracy fnaf theory is more than 20 mins long i click off or dont watch but this video just kept me entertained for the full hour tyyy

[@snowballskies5857]

36:38 This was unnecessarily funny

[@luckgod5269]

If you think of ballora as a collection of the kids melded together the song kinda makes sense. All I see is an empty room, no more joy, an empty tomb (Circus baby rental is empty because it shut down and they dont know where their dead bodies are, THEY ARE the empty tombs) Why do you hide inside your walls, When there is music in my halls (We are watching them through windows/cams and hiding in vents, behind a makeshift wall) its so good to sing all day, to dance to spin to fly away (It could be a distraction or coping mechanism to sing and dance all day but the wording fly away makes me think about the elevator, fly away to the surface) *note, this was written before watching the rest of the video

[@sricked610]

I love how in order to explain who she might be, you have to explain like 1 hr of pre-lore to prepare for the new lore 💀

[@pamela-jayne]

Have to admit you lost me when you said people can only have rosy cheeks because of alcohol 😅 I have natural rosy cheeks that are there 24/7.

[@chaoticsilver8442]

3:50 "Likewise, we know that the Afon children have more than one paren. It would be biologically impossible for them not to." Is it extremely likely that there is a Mrs. Afton somewhere in the picture, and Mike and Crying Child have a mother? Sure. But is it impossible for them not to? Working with absolutes that aren't there is how you start misleading yourself. For alternatives- Well, there's the whole 'robot child' possibility, and other such sequences which, while ridiculous, highly unlikely, and the fandom would not take any theory of Mike and Crying Child being robots to begin with at all seriously... It is a valid possibility in this franchise. Same goes for clones, sentient goo people, or any other number of wacky, sci-fi explanation for how a person could just be created. For something more realistic- maybe they're not even Aftons- Maybe Mike, Crying Child, and Elizabeth, are all adopted? Or maybe William doesn't have a wife, but moreso there's some sort of a surrogate mother situation. Is it highly likely that a Mrs. Afton exists or has existed? Sure. But saying that any alternative is impossible is just giving yourself tunnel vision. Never work with absolutes in a theory unless you are absolutely certain of those absolutes. And certainly don't go spouting out absolutes which don't really exist. Because that's just going to confuse and mislead people.

[@certafan]

Gotta love the homage to Mr. Plinket in the line delivery of the bullet points of this video

[@kashmoney6344]

I can't believe I didn't process that the "empty tomb" in that song has very different conotations from just a "tomb" until now 😭 What immediately came to mind for me was that it could be foreshadowing the animatronics forming Ennard and escaping through Mike, leaving the bunker that was supposed to be their tomb empty.

[@Alkeeros]

At the end of the video when you were comparing the staff bot Mrs. Afton to the other potential Mrs. Afton representations, you said "this version is incompatible with the others." But consider: 1. William seems to have custody of the children (if he has the surveillance bunker and psychic friend fredbear, if he built the robot that Elizabeth saw. Maybe those are during visits, maybe. I think it's more likely William has custody) 2. The cut staff bot conversation indicates Mrs. Afton is taking the kids... 3. The tapes indicate Vanessa lied in a court case so William could get custody. What if old Billy's first target of abuse and manipulation was Mrs. Afton, started during the divorce and ending in her... uh, "permanently not being present for the rest of the series"

[@dannygerous]

The poem makes more sense to me as William begging his dead children to come back. He made the “circus” for them with animatronics, games, music and dancing. He knows they posses animatronics, but instead they’re just empty walls to him.

[@jonathanhibberd9983]

If the staffbot scene is the Aftons, and the cut lines are supposed to be a reference to what actually happens, including "and I'm taking the children", how are they still with him? If she divorced him because he was a screwup who left a stable job, there isn't a court in the world who wouldn't give her custody. Unless one of the kids were to lie and say she was somehow abusive. Like we hear in the therapy tapes. Which I do agree is probably not about the Aftons, it's probably actually Vanessa's history. I don't think Ballora's song referencing Henry makes sense. If William created her, why would he write a song to describe his hated former business partner? I think it's actually about Mrs. Afton. But I don't think it's referencing CC's death. I think it's referencing hers. There's a comment by porcelainchips6061 that suggests the FNAF4 game might be both CC and Mrs. Afton. Tulips being associated with Mother's Day. And a pill bottle - which a comatose patient like CC couldn't have taken. But say a cancer patient (like maybe a bald woman on a couch watching TV) could have. To me, Ballora's song sounds like maybe a diary entry, or something like that. Something Mrs. Afton wrote as she was slowly dying, and her husband was neglecting her. "Why do you hide inside your walls When there is music in my halls?" Why are you locked away buried in your work? Why aren't you spending time with me while I'm still alive? "All I see is an empty room No more joy, an empty tomb" I'm stuck in my bed all day without you. It's like a tomb but I'm not dead yet so it's still empty waiting to be filled. "It's so good to sing all day To dance, to spin, to fly away..." There's another meaning of "good". That being satisfying. "That was good cake." It is satisfying to sing all day. Because that's all she can do. Sing. The last line is the only one that doesn't fit. My thought would be that she is either imagining it, or using it as a metaphor for her death. Flying away as an "angel". Honestly, I think Mrs. Afton is going to turn out to be the linchpin that puts the whole timeline into place. Which is why we have so little reference to her.

[@jesuly17]

About Ballora's song, I think it's more literal than you make it sound. The "hiding inside your walls" would be a direct question for Mike. Why is he hiding instead of joining her in her halls where music plays, as if tricking him to come out so she can catch him, not noticing he's actually there because her eyes are closed. And the "empty room/tomb" would also be quite literal. Ballora once had a crowd that now is missing, an empty room, and they're sealed away in an underground place, an empty tomb.

[@chinchindaisukiman]

Everyone knows that the real Mrs. Afton is the one and only Rich Evans, a.k.a. Dick the Birthday Boy, the first victim of the Showbiz Pizza Bear.

[@Limomon]

This is literally the first time I heard someone describe Elizabeth as having red hair. I always thought she was supposed to be blonde and always heard other people describe her as blonde. I gueeeeess the hair of the sprite is more oragne-y yellow than straight up blonde, never thought about it.

[@jacquelinejanewashere]

You're my favorite fnaf creator this video is excellent

[@emmae11685]

maybe empty tomb refers to the fact the mci kids bodies were never found so they couldn't be buried so their tombs are empty.

[@PristineCharred]

One thing that's worth pointing out for the husband and wife convo was that it was likely an easter egg where the husband in the convo was actually the staff bot Gregory controls to make pizza to lure Chica leaves the kitchen and goes to a room with the nanny staff bot (it doesn't what it was thinking and just felt compelled to leave the job because Gregory made it leave it's spot) This is something I found on Twitter months ago, so I don't know if I can track it down now

[@slovibesx188]

while i personally dont believe ballora is literally meant to BE mrs afton; i do believe shes meant to be a representation of her, this is primarily because of the table within security breach; possibly a (retro-active) confirmation that ballora /is/ a representation of william aftons wife you can obviously see that the table within security breach symbolizes the aftons; with william being the main smug one with the top-hat; looking much more like a ringleader than a magician, baby/elizabeth (dont even need to explain the similarities), michael with his uniform and cc with the missing head. the nanny bot you see is a VERY close representation to balloras colour palette; with the purples and blues, especially with the blue hair; there is no other animatronic in the main games with both blue hair and a theorized link with mrs afton, this nanny bot is obviously the mother in this situation thanks to both the audio files and her place on the table. its obvious when sister location was released; ballora was just meant to be a side character for extra challenges and then to be added to the animatronic cluster; but as theories grew over her throughout the years, most having little to no links, i feel like security breach just sort of threw this theory at the wall to see if itd stick much like they did with many others; which would explain the physical similarities between the nanny bot (a supposed representation of williams wife) and ballora. to conclude this in a very short sentence, i believe it was made retro-actively true in security breach that ballora is meant to represent william aftons wife. then again; i personally dont believe this means ballora is literally posessed by mrs afton, but due to this possibly retroactive confirmation (the ballora - mrs afton link being one of the most popular theories surrounding the mother) of some sorts, i just feel like the similarities and features between both the nanny bot and ballora lay too strong for this to be a coincidence. love your videos

[@thedarkdevil1661]

I find it weird that Mrs Afton's appearance is normally given blonde hair and green eyes, like Elizabeth. While William in the TSE GN has Brown hair and grey eyes, even though the GN has greyish green eyes. (The fourth Closet GN has some panels that show William with Green eyes as well) Based on the process of elimination and Michael having Brown hair and blue eyes, if William has Brown hair and Green eyes, Mrs Afton would have Blonde hair (like Elizabeth) and Blue Eyes. As for CC....like Michael, I see him having his Brown hair with blue eyes, like Michael and his shorts/tears. 14:40 + 24:53 Mrs Afton does not possess Ballora. Elizabeth = Circus Baby ("Didn't you make her just for me?") Mike = Funtime Foxy (17:04 Foxy Bro) CC = Funtime Freddy (Fredbear connection) William = Bonbon (under the theory of William = Fredbear Plush in 1983, William influences CC like Bonbon does to Funtime Freddy) Mrs Afton = Ballora (23:50 the song she sings + 21:37 Adult woman who's blind to William's genius) I also see CBPW is open on Jan 7th 1985 (1578 ambience), meaning the references make sense, as it's after 1983. Anything connections beyond these (like Mrs Afton possibly being a Ballerina) is people looking too deep into it. (Even some of these are me looking too deep into it I.E Bonbon representing William as the plush influencing CC)

[@sinzspades733]

You forget that the Fnaf Books are not direct nor 1:1 with the Games' storyline. Scott has said this multiple times. Just because something happens in the books doesnt mean thats how it is in the games. The book storyline versus the game storyline exist parallel.

[@thedarkdevil1661]

​​​​@@sinzspades733 Fair in regards to William's eye colour. In terms of his hair colour, he has to share Mike's, as "they thought I was you" which I doubt you'd mistake a blonde haired man with his Brown haired son. After all we only have Mike's Brown hair and Blue eyes, and Elizabeth's Blonde hair and Green eyes to work off. First."the eyes are the gateway to the soul", and William's Envious, Jealousy driven, and Sickly soul definitely fits the term "Green eyed monster" (towards Henry), someone fueled by jealousy/Envy. (Obviously, green can mean other things like nature, but the negative side of the colour green fits William to a T) And Elizabeth is a "Daddy's girl" so her being like her dad, hence sharing his eye colour makes sense. William's and Michael's personalities are like oil and water. World's apart, so why would they share an eye colour? Also William's favourite Spring bonnie has green eyes. Although the guide book Henry art also has green eyes, and Henry uses Fredbear, who should have blue eyes, based on GF in the movie and being a Golden Freddy. Also Springtrap is green. Basically William sharing his hair colour with the sole person who's said to look like him, while sharing his eye colour with his clingy daughter, his favourite character, as well as the colour of his moldy, "funky rabbit man" form, makes more sense than blue eyes. (More of a connection to Green than Blue) Then, based on Genetics, Mrs Afton has to have Blonde hair, for Elizabeth to have it. And based on this theory, plus the book GNs giving William dilated green eyes, Mrs Afton would then have to have Mike's Blue eyes. And also Ballora having her Blue and Purple colour scheme is a nice coincidence for this too.

[@compassrose1466]

Imma be honest as much as Scott love convoluted bs lore I don’t think he thought into the genetics. One of his characters is literally a purple walking corpse that have no skeleton because it was scooped out and had a robot slapped in before the robot jumped right out.

[@thedarkdevil1661]

@compassrose1466 ya, I don't think he did either. I'm pretty sure he just thought of what he thought looked good. "As you do" XD ("It looks cool. Let's do that" is sometimes enough). This is more of a hindsight thing. Something he didn't plan, but appears to be the case now. Basically, I'm just using the hands that Scott has given. Mike: Brown Hair + Blue Eyes Elizabeth: Blonde Hair + Green Eyes Plus, William definitely fits the Brown hair and green eyes look. (Brown hair for similarity to Mike + Green Eyes for connection to Elizabeth, his Envy/Jealousy for Henry, and his Springtrap green) Also, the GN has already done this with his dilated/Greyish Green Eyes with Brown Hair. And then fan art people think William having grey eyes means he has Dilated blue eyes, and therefore give Mrs Afton Elizabeth's Blonde hair and green eyes, instead of blue eyes.

[@jessdahooman2861]

31:41 hands down my favorite line

[@EveCat2343]

I know this is late, but I lean more towards her song being just programmed into her and not something supernatural. Thinking about Ballora's song from an in universe stand point I think "you" are the parents she is meant to distract. I'd say its pretty common for the parents to hang back, watching their kids play. Ballora is trying to destract them by luring them away. "Why do you hide inside your walls when there is music in my halls?" Why are you out here in the game/kid's area when you could be watching my performance? "All I see is an empty room" my performance area is empty, because you're out here watching your children play instead of letting me entertain you. "No more joy an empty tomb" this line feels out of place, just because i feel the word 'tomb' wouldn't be the imagery youd want in a children's party establishment, but I'd take it to be about how her area feels like a empty, joyless, tomb when there is nobody to watch her perform, which is why "you" should stop watching your kids and come watch the performance! "It's so good to sing all day. To dance, to spin, to fly away." Is a statement, it's true for both her and "you", and the positive tone compared to the rest of the song makes that statement, more alluring. Yes it IS good. So I should go see and enjoy the good thing.

[@oneviaenthusiast3006]

i think the lyrics are talking about the night gaurd and baby, 'you hide inside your walls when theres music in my halls' i felt was a serenade for the night gaurd to come, then get killed, like a siren would, and the part with the empty tomb talking about a death but an unrecoverable body made me think of elizabeth, since she would be mangled up and crushed, i dont know how ballora would be aware of it, like i guess baby told her or something, thats what i get from it, and im not sure if the bot family from SB represent the aftons, if the story told was canon, the absent ms afton would take in the kids only to die or commit suicide and then have them back in the care of william? i dont know how it all works but i feel like theyd be in someone elses care, i dont know if it would default like that. it feels messier if its set in 1983 because i felt like it was implied that william was working at fazbears before that time, with the position he was in and the power he had at the company, designing important parts

[@NotD-kp3by]

Ive always been under the impression that Mrs Afton is just overall irrelevant to the story of Fnaf or Scott didnt know what to do with her which result in the ambiguous vague mess of a character she is. I mean if she really was important she would have been mentioned in fnaf4 (even Elizabeth is referred to). I think the connection to ballora is simply symbolic and again has no really story impact because if it did it would have shown its purpose by now

[@covereye5731]

Hey Gibi, did you watch Duel Process Theory's timeline video, what do you think about it? They convinced me CC is Cassidy and the Vengeful Spirit is Michael (and by extension they also think the Vengeful Spirit is The one You Should not have Killed, but I actually think those are different entities)

[@HorrorHomestead]

I liked the video but didn't find it convincing. A lot of people are asking me about it but i don't wanna make a debunked video on new creators lol. I'll keep that to game theory for now.

[@covereye5731]

@@HorrorHomestead Understandable! Glad you're keeping up with community and other theorist videos, I wished the other Fnaf theorists did that for your videos as well.