Oklahoma vs Texas Film Study: MICHAEL HAWKINS crumbles! + BRENT VENABLES must start JACKSON ARNOLD!

[@ripclaybourne]

What would Jackson Arnold change? He's missing the same throws as Hawkins with twice the tournovers. Change is needed but qb isn't were you start at.

[@otterrufus]

You are correct, it doesn't matter who you put at QB if your O line can't give them more than 2 seconds before having to either throw the ball or run for their lives.

[@charlesshankle3178]

Arnold would have been a sitting duck out there

[@ShroomDoggyDogg]

@@charlesshankle3178he would’ve had 4 turnovers minimum

[@montpbmgaming]

Facts.

[@InformalGreeting]

The QB at OU that nobody talks about has the record for TD passes in this game. When Hawkins had proven he wasnt ready for this moment they should have sent Casey Thompson out to give it a shot.

[@waltershoults8803]

That’s on your head coach 🤘

[@cammywammy420]

You want to destroy the confidence of the guy who is clearly the future of your program for a game that they are obviously not going to recover? You think Casey Thompson goes out there and wins you a game from 18 points behind? God no. Casey Thompson is not a good quarterback. Sure he has that record (against a horrific OU defense) but there is a reason he didn't keep his last two jobs. The loss stings, the sting is what Michael Hawkins Jr. needs for the future. That, and a real QB coach.

[@stischer47]

At the Worst Miss Ever section, I was yelling "Throw it! Throw it!", and I'm a Longhorn's fan.

[@bradlott3284]

🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@PatBrooks-u6w]

Hawkins not only looks like Jimi Hendrix, now he plays football like him. 😂

[@clarkd2742]

Holy crap he does. 😂

[@CallSignWhiplash]

We have a veteran QB Casey Thompson that would have managed the game better and took what the defense gave him. I’m not sure why OU doesn’t give him a shot when the puppies are making mistakes

[@Lam-he6mj]

As a Texas fan I was wondering the same thing. Before he injured his hand (against the Sooners) he was a touchdown throwing machine at Texas. Give him a shot.

[@waltershoults8803]

lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@-sensibleChris]

Im willing to see what Thompson can do. Littrell has to go though. Finley, and Bedenbaugh can pack his bags too. Murray may not be far behind. Emmet Jones is a great recruiter, ut Im sick of swwing receivers that won't block, or don't know their blocking assignments.

[@jimfitzgibbon5492]

Both these QB have become worse from the day they arrived at OU. People talk about Littrell offense. Just what is his offense? He has no system. It is like back yard football. Fans cussed Lebby, but Lebby,s Miss St team played Texas tuff up till late in third quarter. Get rid of Littrell.

[@ican8216]

It's easy to sit on the couch and say what a QB should do. He was running for his life. It's called rhythm. Yall talking about 3 to 5 plays that you could want back but you guys out your mind if you think the QB is the issue.

[@MrWalkwaySc2]

The decision to bench Arnold and change starters was made so prematurely that I don't understand it. If you're willing to change the offense for a new QB, why not make adjustments that better fit Arnold? Even then, why put a true freshmen QB in the position to burn their redshirt instead of putting in Casey Thompson? He might not be elite, but he's got more experience than Arnold and Hawkins. At that point we can conserve redshirt years and let these guys develop more.

[@darrellharwell6207]

Make adjustments that better fit Arnold!?!? Why would they need to make adjustments for a QB that they knew they were starting with when DG left? 😂

[@MrWalkwaySc2]

@@darrellharwell6207 did you just skip over the part where I mentioned them adjusting the offense for Hawkins?

[@williamcrowder2226]

Jackson is a better QB. But he makes throws expecting his WR to go up and get and OU just doesn't have that Tier 3 and Tier 2 WR talent required.

[@JamesOMalley-hb4tf]

It does if they don't have the five best receivers out with injuries.

[@mikecreger9702]

Why did they bring Casey Thompson in? I was told it was because of his experience. Looks like experience is exactly what is needed. Can he be any worse? Saw a lot of receivers open over the middle and for some reason, especially in the first half, didn't make the throws

[@pepperlewis1]

Its not the qb, its the o line and lack of receivers to pass to

[@williebates3398]

Bro Oklahoma had no run game outside,inside or sideways . 39 rush attempts for 89 yards. 😂 Damn hate to see what you consider a no run game? Their longest play of the day was a 15 yard pass play. 237 yards of total offense and that last drive for about 60 yards was against Texas #2 defenders. Hawkins is a wide receiver trying to play quarterback.

[@Postman700]

OUs best 5 WR are out hurt, which means you can’t pass the ball so the defense knows you’re gonna run most of the time. Hawkins had 55 TD his senior year in high school 41 were passing TDs and only 3 interceptions but he can’t do it all himself either

[@elgalloblanco]

@@Postman700well if you watched this video you could see there were several opportunities to pass the ball. So that excuse is bs.

[@Postman700]

@@elgalloblanco oh sorry there was 3 times somebody was open and didn’t get the ball. Go back and watch the RRR from last year. Our WRs were getting open every play and all those guys are the ones that are out hurt.

[@JamesOMalley-hb4tf]

Firstly, a legit head coach would have kept Dillon Gabriel, even though we know he is not as good now as either Jackson or Hawkins will be at his age in his fifrh or six year as a starter. We should have kept him, let him be the captain this year entering SEC play with a man that's already grown up and in his sixth year, he is clearly better at decision making etc. Jackson could have been number two with casey Thompson playing the three, red shirt Hawkins for the future. But did we do that? 🤡 I can guarantee you Venables and Co will be fired within a season or two. Absolutely no chance to compete with him vs the other coaches in the SEC. Maybe the worst offense ive ever seen in morern college football, they cant even line up some big guys and run the football, the most basic form of offense. 😂 Offensive line is like swiss cheese, not one time did they fire off and win the line of scrimmage. Defense gets tired eventually, loses hope, gives up a big play or two. Oklahoma will be in football purgatory for a year or two then Brent gets fired. I mean seriously, who tries to be a passing team recruiting five stars amd dont even have a quarterback coach or legitimate offensive coordinator with quarterback development experience?? Makes zero sense, the quarterbacks have been struggling since Cale Gundy was wrongly fired. This is clearly a coaching problem at Oklahoma and if we know it here on this chat, at least some boosters etc also probably feel the same way too. They are all on the hot seat or should be. They would be at Alabama , Ohio st, etc.

[@BretMuckdogs]

Thank you for this video. What are your thoughts on when Deion Burks comes back?

[@GeorgeRishel]

Thompson

[@justincook54]

Not a fun game for Sooner fans to rewatch. But still great analysis. Thank you.

[@awethinic8379]

More than anything we need a qb coach. Bring back Gundy, stoops, and BV can coach the defense. With nil and portal we are facing the abyss.

[@ratiugjr]

This team is struggling to run, block, or pass... but they seem to be able to kick pretty good. We need an offensive coaching reset immediately before the off season gets here and we see the transfer portal light up like a Christmas tree with premium OU players heading for the exit doors.

[@Sooner_life]

Either put Arnold back in or try Casey. Hawk not ready

[@andrewfencl1102]

No Jackson would through multiple interceptions. I think the coaches preaching so much not to f up to the qb there afraid throwing balls they normally would

[@robbyclark6915]

I honestly don't know if the coaches are showing Mike where he's making mistakes because he literally makes the same exact mistakes every single play of every single game? Are they not teaching the young man? Are they not seeing these problems? If he's making these mistakes and just not correcting them, then you have to do something different as coaches to help him out or you have to sit him down. You sat Arnold when he made mistakes, but we don't want to sit Hawkins because we want to show stability? Stability of what? Losing? Getting the shit kicked out of you? I didn't like the game plan at all after 2 weeks to prepare. Tons of qb option? Is it the 1940s again? WTF? Run your freshman quarterback 20x? That's your game plan? Terrible. To only put up 3 poi to with 2 weeks to prepare is inexcusable. Someone has to lose their job over this!

[@Allen-hg2hu]

Isn't your QB coach, was a fullback in college? He is making the same mistakes, because OU is too inept to actually hire a real QB coach to you know, coach their quarterbacks. To use a Aggie analogy, Aggie gonna Aggie, Ou gonna Ou. Your coach also isn't a HC, he is in over his head, they should just let him coach the defense since that is what he is good at, and hire a actual real offensive coordinator. I think OU needs a reset completely on the coaches on offense, and make sure they are SEC quality and know how to coach in the SEC.

[@abpob6052]

The one REAL question I haven't had answered is how these players all got hurt. Perhaps there needs to be a change in their training and practices to keep them healthy for games. It feels like it may be a coaching philosophy issue.

[@blueyedxy171]

he's a true FRESHMAN

[@powerhoursec]

Oh is he? I never mentioned that in the video. Thanks!

[@tigerwong9845]

@@powerhoursecfreshman or not, we benched JA for him, meaning that we had confidence in him helming the offense of the 18th ranked team in the country. No excuses.

[@jstand6846]

There needs to be a qb competition. Who can make it work. By the time our o line figures it out and our WRs get healthy who ever the QB will be fine.

[@Calisnr]

I think he's still getting used to "speed" of the game and how much time he has to progress through this reads. He missed some wide open throws but pressure and a swiss cheese Oline will make you move quick

[@jamesoliver6625]

I wouldn't call it good defense early when Ewers just smack missed his first two throws on receivers that are open by ten yards.

[@Terpking918]

He was definitely under pressure in the first quarter and they played a part

[@TimWysocki-cz5dg]

After Venables sent Arnold to the trash heap, why on earth would Arnold want to burn his redshirt by coming back in for Hawkins? He's got one foot in the portal already. It may be more likely they would have to turn to Casey Thompson if they want to make a QB change. I promise you Arnold's agent will be advising him to stand form on redshirting.

[@JoeCab]

Hawkins had some easy throws but the line couldn’t stop the bulls from stampeding into their backfield.

[@bradlott3284]

Hawkins looks like Jimi Hendrix. And plays quarterback like him too

[@robphillips12]

I still don't think Arnold is there yet, could be the o line, but he too is mistake prone...if I were to switch, I might have given Thompson the nod, he's at least a veteran that might have a better idea on how to handle the situation...

[@seanenochs8213]

Why go to Thompson. It would just get worse. If Lebby was still OC Arnold would be thriving. Top 5 recievers out is an issue. I've watched probably 15 different film clips where 3 of 4 or 4 of 4 of our receivers cannot get more than 1 to 2 feet of separation from the DBs. Any DBs.

[@joshmahler5552]

1:00 tell me you don’t know football without telling me… “This is as easy of a comeback as you can get” The dude had a ton of field to cover with that pass. How about the easy check down or open field to run and get a few yards? That’s not an easy pass because of the distance and angle. He has other options, that’s why this is a bad play.

[@powerhoursec]

Ehhh that’s fair Josh. However, I Didnt need the condescending tone. You are right. It is cross field. Juices are flowing early. You don’t want to make a mistake. But the throw should still be made. The mechanics & timing of the miss though made it look very bad. And he obviously has an issue throwing to his left.

[@joshmahler5552]

@@powerhoursec It was meant to be more of a sarcastic joking tone, but a keyboard can’t relay that. My bad. I agree that he had terrible mechanics in this throw. The rest of the game around this suggested that he’s too young and not poised for big moments imo. Play calling hurt him early in the game, but later in the game it was poor decisions by the young QB on good play calls that really stood out to me.

[@timothyvenske6519]

As an OU fan. Ewers is even less impressive to me. Saw him miss at least 3 (open) throws on third down. We’re lucky they didn’t start Manning, we’d have lost by 70.

[@ican8216]

You out your mind if you think JA is the answer

[@JoeCab]

Oklahoma should keep Hawkins in with him, you’ve got a shot at beating South Carolina the same way yall beat Auburn.

[@robbyclark6915]

To say the Hawkins isn't ready is like saying that water is wet.I was screaming for Brent to put Arnold in. Why the hell not? He's going to turn it over? Hawkins doesn't throw picks because Hawkins won't even throw the damn ball. Instead, he takes sacks or runs for a yard. Brent doesn't want to show a lack of stability or something? No, you're just showing that you can take an ass kicking at this point. This offense is the most mismanaged group of division 1 players in the nation. It's a F ing disaster! You can fire the whole damn crew at this point.

[@thomasslinger3767]

No because Jackson isn’t any good either 😂

[@wannwarriors]

Coaching folks.... It all goes back to coaching.

[@donaldhoover23]

Shoulda started Arnold second half🤷

[@cesarrosa4644]

Most of these comments are from groupies. Jackson Arnold was pulled before halftime and deservedly so. But BV should have pulled Hawkins at halftime because he was totally ineffective and gun shy, didn’t want to throw the ball anywhere except out of bounds. That’s being honest. Just like he pulled Arnold he should’ve pulled Hawkins. It’s a long season and you can’t be that stubborn. He should’ve gave Arnold another shot or even Thompson but to stick with Hawkins was deflating. Even the last play of the game he chose to throw the ball in the audience instead of giving one of his receivers a chance at a touchdown which we all wanted!! I believe both of these young qb’s are going to be successful but the truth is BV should have replaced him at halftime PERIOD!!

[@dmanwainright2132]

Maybe Hawkins is good by the end of the season...then he transfers..😂😂😂

[@rickplot9358]

The coaching staff is a failure from the head coach down. There are teams with far less talent that produce more than this team does. Until the feel good hire BV is gone, this team will be stuck in the mud.

[@cfwags1]

Derp! Uhg!

[@delraycollins1341]

It's not Michael's fault, guys.100% the coach and I say offensive, coordinator and head coach, they both need to be fired.And that's 100% correct.Any head coach that tolerates?This is no good at all.We will not win another national championship with this kind of head coach because he's Soft. Very soft I mean brent Got ran out years ago and he's gonna get ran out again

[@jamescox857]

Arnold demanded he or lefty Lou was to start or he was transferring so you ran off Gabriel and that should have never happened. Arnold is bad for ou and your staff gave him way too much say and power and he’s not very good. Expect the same next year

[@bradlott3284]

Afro boy needs to learn how to throw a forward pass

[@tsmatthx2]

ahahahaha gooners!

[@Godisgood13208]

Yes Arnold shoukd be the starter

[@waltershoults8803]

Ou doesn’t have the Dallas/ Fort Worth recruiting pipeline anymore, it’s Texas boys and they’re going to Texas , Venables isn’t developing his talent either , ou is exactly where Texas was 10 years ago 🤘Hookem

[@Terpking918]

They just beat you last year shut the fuck up ur a moron

[@waltershoults8803]

Hawkins should hit the portal because Venables can’t develop talent .

[@DIYDaveOK]

Go back to JA? Simple answer: No.

[@samshepherd9252]

OU just trash!!! TEXAS defense better!!

[@BillyMack-eu1sw]

💯

[@soonernation37]

Facts

[@EricCramer-x8w]

No

[@ROUGHNECK75]

Thats a fucking lie. Oklahoma has always been a better program than Texas. And always will. 7 national championships 7 heisman winners. 50 conference tittles. You a ass clown. 🤣

[@ThisIsLeeBird]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 with that state ment I guess Houston and Tulane have world beater defenses. It’s an offense problem clear as day.

[@montpbmgaming]

Hawkins is the guy. This has nothing to do with the QB, Arnold is so overrated and should never play again. Hawkins has always been the better QB. You can't do much when your OL can't give you any time and when the coaches tell them not to turn the ball over. Not to mention, he's a TRUE FRESHMAN. He has no one really to throw the ball to.

[@Doe-o4r]

🤘 Texas defense is just top in the country

[@clarkd2742]

That's alot of cope. Oklahoma has one of the worst offenses in the country right now.

[@larrymeek4042]

Need try Jackson again mabe sitting on bench will wake him up

[@GeorgeRishel]

Thompson