Old-Growth Forests vs. Second-Growth Plantations - The Differences

See a summary of the structural differences between coastal old-growth temperate forests and the ensuing second-growth tree plantations that they are being replaced with - which are re-logged every 50 to 60 years in BC, never to become old-growth again. Old-growth forests are vital to support unique endangered species, the climate, tourism, clean water, wild salmon, and First Nations cultures whose unceded territories these are.
Please Send a Message to help protect BC old-growth forests using this link below:
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[@bobfuts]

I'm a local city politician. You're teaching me very valuable insights, thanks!

[@dc2guy2]

It's almost as if this is also a metaphor for how we should develop cities/communities or something...

[@bobfuts]

@@dc2guy2 yea I'm busy writing a policy document for high rises. Something that I think is important is that in between high rises there should be a lot of living area where there's nature and places for people to interact. So we don't lose nature and don't get too isolated. I'm not really sure yet how. Still figuring things out. But I'd love to build high rises and bring jungle into the city

[@dc2guy2]

@@bobfuts I was thinking more along the lines of socioeconomic and racial diversity, but that sounds good too 😅

[@bobfuts]

@@dc2guy2 Those are very important things as well, though already more integrated in my city! We are aware that we want to mix all kinds of people (age, money and cultural wise) It's good for society! Helps understand and remember who we are. Though maybe it could be locked more into policy, so thank you for this idea! And you're right! It is alike to the canopy. Everyone in all stages needs light and room to grow. Just like the bottom of an old forest :) Otherwise nothing new can grow

[@Pepper98776]

It's not good​@@bobfuts

[@dc2guy2]

It's almost as if this is also a metaphor for how we should develop cities/communities or something...

[@oceanusprocellarum6853]

Not only are your explanations fantastic, but the visuals given are striking. The environment depicted in the first 30 seconds of the video is so starkly contrasted with the environment in the last 30 seconds of the video that I find it hard to believe that they're right next to each other. And of course, there's an actionable solution: protect old-growth, make second-growth farming sustainable. This is so very valuable. Thank you.

[@amosadams7058]

Soil compaction from heavy equipment is often overlooked too. This can greatly impact seed germination in the seed bank. Once soil is compacted, it takes a very very long time to return to its prior state.

[@TryptSmurf]

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[@yourMindFind]

Thank you for this vital message! I found your video through a post on reddit with over 30,000 upvotes and likely hundreds of thousands of views. Keep on delivering these world-saving messages; your voice is being heard.

[@tuononnovainbici]

I have a feeling most of us are here due to that Reddit post (and the comment that linked this channel!), this is information that really needs to be spread

[@yourMindFind]

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[@Authorthings]

​@@tuononnovainbici yep. I'm not even on Reddit. I lurk there a lot.

[@maxwellerickson7066]

This is a fantastic post. Thank you so much for teaching people this information.

[@thomasweis]

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[@thunderboya2571]

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[@sculptor000]

This needs more views!

[@verity3616]

What a lovely, approachable, instructive introduction to this topic! The speaker has a great voice and cadence in his presentation. It's not condescending or hyper and matches the subject wonderfully. I hope this channel is a great success!

[@AlteredCarbons]

found this posted to reddit. this is a great explanation

[@aaronmorgan8529]

I found this video on Reddit and LOVED IT! Thank you for sharing such valuable information!

[@filiphartwich]

Just adding to the comments, this is a crucial message, keep it going dude🔥

[@KroLenbDC]

в общем суть ролика в том, что искусственно выращенные леса не дают расти ничему новому закрывая собой весь солнечный свет, также они одной толщины и возраста. что же касается природного леса, то там есть деревья разных возрастов и толщин, множество мертвых деревьев. вследствие чего появляются просветы и есть больше шансов развиться и вырасти новым деревьям, мелким кустам и т.д

[@DefenderOfAzeroth]

Found this vid on Reddit and had to find it on KZbin to tell you that you’re amazing and opened my eyes to this concept. So valuable. I hope this channel reaches the whole planet.

[@Varooooooom]

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[@ioannistamvakis8571]

Please continue making these videos!

[@unsexmehere]

Such important information 👏🏽

[@feraacedia1825]

This was very well explained, thank you for making this video

[@kctheboy]

Fantastic video filled with digestible facts. Love it!

[@mp3bestouch839]

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[@easymoneeey]

Another simple solution everybody wants to believe in, but as always, it's woefully ineffective. Thank you for providing awareness to such an important issue.

[@dungeonmaster6292]

Keep up the fight

[@eringraham182]

thank you for this video!

[@rudetuesday]

Your video's so helpful at answering questions I couldn't quite put together easily.

[@michaelare]

Such a great video ❤

[@matveykins5450]

Старые леса лучше засаженных, ведь там можно встретить енотов и конфетку Jolly Rancher

[@kakoytoyozhik]

Два енота и конфетку этому господину вне очереди!

[@Umar_Sh]

Жиза

[@shawkab]

thank you

[@iskender7000]

I'm starting to believe that we humans just can't exist without ruining the nature around us

[@ianhop]

Not if we want to live in a modern society with several billion people

[@dungeonmaster6292]

​@@ianhopno. The resources are poorly allocated and all get sihponed into mega-capitalist hands. This planet could sustain billions more, with everyone living comfortably, if we didn't have a select few parasites

[@nolanbannon3101]

we can actually cause nature to grow faster and with more mass than it would on its own if we know what were doing

[@cameronhamer9432]

The old growth forest your showing isn’t old . It’s older than the first stand , but not more than 100 years old . And you can still see the stumps from when it was logged . 👍🇨🇦

[@waltsimonson2556]

I've always loved old growth forest , they are enchanting and magical , I know that sounds like tree hugging , hippie bull ---- or bleeding hart crap , but it's true . They have so much more life in them , I've never agreed with the " Sustained burn " stuff ether , it just never made sense to me , I understand the logic behind it , but I disagree , the benefits don't out weigh the cons ( total / destruction ) and it's supposed benefits are short lived . Trees help each other , by sharing stored nutrients . ( see / watch " the Mother Tree ") through mushrooms , underground connecting roots of many different plants . This takes a very long time to become efficient . And it's really interesting , is it intelligence ? Is it consciousness ? Is it " self awareness " ? Or " awareness " of another " living organism ? Anyway it's amazing ! And " Old Growth " do it best ... Reminds me of life , because it " IS " .

[@fonvizin5280]

Люди пришедшие с Апвоута. Можете примерно объяснить, что он говорит?

[@Umar_Sh]

Хз вообще

[@i_stickshine_i]

Hello from Reddit

[@Umar_Sh]

Апвоут

[@LB-uo7xy]

And most of the wood doesn't even go towards furniture or houses. It goes towards toilet paper and office paper production.😞

[@kirill_1_borisov662]

Я пришел сюда из ссылки в редите, это очень интересно.

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

Can old growth type forests be emulated in a way that would allow nature to get back to what it used to be like?

[@Altriex.]

Mmm, Yes! *Its Not a Tree Problem, Its an Ecosystem Problem* Humanity, especially the ones with too much wealth & power seem to have forgotten that were are part if that Ecosystem. 🌎

[@because.93]

Расскажите, пожалуйста, о чес он говорит?я не знаю английского😢

[@verdiit]

плантация деревьев не может повторить лес, который был прежде. как следствие, меньше растений микроорганизмов и тд растет среди посаженных деревьев (вначале видео лес, который выращен человеком)

[@because.93]

@@verdiit спасибо большое!)

[@user-mf4og9ho2v]

Ниче у него тяги такие

[@stever2583]

Why are those 2nd growth forests not managed ... Selective thinning at various stages, species diversity, and low impact harvesting would go a long way to improving the harvests, the yield, and the overall health of the forest and animals who need that eco world for sustainability. The old growth forest you showed had forestry tree stumps - so not a pristine old growth forest.

[@JoeZorzin]

Sure, remaining old growth should be protected. But the implication that 2nd growth forests are always barren of biodiversity is grossly exaggerated. First, in much of North America, the 2nd growth isn't a "plantation"- as the forests can regrow all by themselves with a diversity of species. And, even if they are plantations- often they are thinned after a few decades allowing light to reach the ground, allowing ground vegetation. Anyone who likes wood products, like wood in your home, wood in your furniture, and paper products ought to learn to like excellent forestry. And I don't mean most forestry is excellent because that's not true. But rather than attempting to stop all or most forestry, it's smarter to improve all forestry. I've been a forester for exactly 50 years so I can speak from experience.

[@jackstone4291]

There is little or limited biodiversity in 2nd growth forests as there are no mature or ancient trees, and there is usually one species of tree that’s been planted or left to grow naturally. That’s the issue. And it is an issue as you said.

[@JoeZorzin]

@@jackstone4291 I suggest it's an exageration to say there is little biodiversity in 2nd growth forests. There is less than in an old growth- but it's different, with different species of plants and animals. The 2nd growth will have early succession species of trees and animals that prefer that early succession type of forest. It's also incorrect that there will be one species- perhaps in some planted forests but for most of this planet, the forests regrow on their own with many species. Here in New England- if you clearcut an old growth forest- which itself may have had few species- you may see poplar, several species of birch, several species of pine, spruce, black and pin cherry, many species of shrubs and abundant wildflowers and ferns. Also, in early succession types of forests you will see bird species not found in old growth. I am not dismissing the need for old growth. I have found several small patches of old growth which I have shown to old growth experts. I like old growth forests- and I have traveled to many national parks in America to view landscapes in relatively original condition. But I have been a forester for 50 years and I know that it's all too easy to think managed forests are sterile monocultures. There is some of that on this planet but not all that much. And even they aren't all that sterile.

[@gameboy4519]

кто всё таки пришёл сюда после видео на канале "Апвоут"

[@Sound_of_the_trees]

Protect old growth and stop industrial logging

[@magnusthered9635]

Imagine if instead of stupid wars our tax payer dollars went to rewilding, conservation, and ecosystem protection type of classes. That would be free for people to attend.

[@robynliteracy7057]

Monoculture forests are dead except for the grid-grown trees. Walking through a tree plantation is depressing. No sounds, no life.

[@340wbymag]

A farking tree farm is not a forest, and it never will be. When you cut the forest down, it is lost forever.