Old Hard Drive

Old MiniScribe hard drive model 3650.
Specs:
5.25 inch form factor
MFM connector
40MB capacity

[@minimavrick02]

40MB...Watch out we got a badass here! Good hard drive for the time period.

[@Paraselene_Tao]

"40MB capacity" Nice! I can save a few hi res pictures on this!

[@YukariAkiyama]

Nowadays, one photo from an iPhone 14 can easily crush 40MB. How times fly, even in 10 years

[@Paraselene_Tao]

@Macintosh99 The highest-resolution image was made for a Rembrandt painting. It's 5.6 terabytes and 717 gigapixels in size. Stick that on your iPhone 14! 😁

[@turbojoe2]

I had this exact HD when I was 16. Love the old servo sound. I still have a couple old ones around.

[@RedstoneMiner18]

Do they work?

[@turbojoe2]

@@RedstoneMiner18 Probably been 10 years since I spun them up. I couldn't tell you if they work. One day I guess.

[@RedstoneMiner18]

@turbojoe2 the sooner u test the better! The longer u wait the more likely they are to fail. I obtained a 20sc drive [20mb scsi drive for old macintoshes] and it wouldn't spin up. Took a good beating and almost a fall from the table to get it to spin up. Hardened grease is hard sometimes

[@redsquirrelftw]

Crazy how far storage has gone. That's 40MB, even 40GB which is 1024 times more is considered really small. They could potentially do 40TB now in that form factor. Though I think platter wobble would be an issue if they made a drive in this factor now. Everything has to be so much more precise.

[@Mathmos252]

Guess what , seagate is releasing a 30tb drive and later 40 tb!!!

[@mebe2k]

brings back memories of the old Seagate MFM HDD's i used to have.. the double height 5.25" 80MB sounded like a jet engine when it was spinning up

[@whitejames01]

Yes brings back so many memories you could clean the platens with iso alcohol when someone had been in and been playing, spent many hours then copying disc to disc using a serial cable via a old PC interface

[@DrRichtoffen1]

Ah such a beautiful sound of the old reader moving how i miss the days of old computers

[@ElectronikHeart]

@Hunnter2k3 This style of head is really slow ... (the rotative style of today make the move very very fast)

[@weeardguy]

Interesting! My brother once opened his first hard drive that went dead, and that one did have system like this, only then with a small stepper motor at the left, with a trapezium-threaded rod to move the arm.

[@Michael.Chapman]

One of the coarsest drive models produced by Miniscribe... The linear stepper actuator used to shake the entire desk during normal operation...

[@aviationfreak1174]

sounds like a siren winding up

[@Matrix803]

This hard drive was manufacture only 1 year before I was born...... I feel old...

[@Samosayummyyay]

A hard drive does NOT render shit... It's just for loading stuff. reading and writing. Going from an good hard disk to an good SSD will give you 0% improvement in gaming performance. Only the loading times will be less...

[@Hunnter2k3]

@ElectronikHeart That's only because those designs are old. They can be made much faster. They essentially operate using the same methods, but with this style it has an extra step to moving the head.

[@BudKingUK]

i wasnt round long enough to see all this and how technology evolved rapidly coming up to the millenium :(

[@qwerty0301]

It sounds like a portable CD player

[@xzaz2]

Ah men i still have some of these, with 25 Mb or something. They stil work like a charm.

[@kleetus92]

How about the old IBM XT 8088? I had one of those with a 20 MEG not gig hard drive running superstore and got it to about 39 meg and was fairly stable with MFM. Then came the RLL drives, and wow! ide! lol... back in the good old days, select and set your own interrupts... man...

[@RodrigoVolta]

WOW!! It's same floppy mechanism!!! It's very cool!!!

[@gustavgnoettgen]

That's the original Windows starting sound. My '93 PC sounds exactly like this. This HD is running all the time and surprisingly loud.

[@rares2cristea]

it still sounds better then rebecca black's friday :)

[@2fast4uspartan]

take me back into the wayback machine.....my first hard drive was from 1998 though...i wasn't even born in 1988.

[@jarvideoproductions]

only sad thing here it that this drive is no longer usable now that its been opened up. Granted it serves no purpose these days its still fun to have working tech to play with.

[@tucker21222]

Part of the reason that hard drive is so loud is because back then the hard drives header actually touches the disk in today's hard drives from what I understand the header never actually touches the surface of the platter back when that hard drive was made most computers did not have hard drives and from what I understand they were very expensive of course computers in general back then were expensive

[@LellePrinter82]

@goku3002 It uses a stepper motor to move the read/write arm.

[@the731272]

@neonzion7 only on rare occasions sure their used in the psu but most if not all hard drives use sata power

[@Nada_1911-d9q]

There's a reason they call it 'Spinning rust'

[@121293g]

this hard drive will last longer than any hard drive on the market today...thats for shure...it cant hand as much stuff but its designed to last longer...you can tell by how the head moves...its...more secure.

[@aval1998]

that hard drive scares me :'(

[@Hunnter2k3]

@lazerusmfh Only because this one was prevented the research the new ones were granted because it wasn't capable of fitting in smaller cases. In a 5.25" case, these things work fine and can be made to move at the same speeds current heads can. While they do have an extra place something could fail, most HDD failures relating to the head is when it smashes in to the platter or comes lose entirely. These heads are much more solid in design because they can be built thicker, so vibrate less.

[@komododragon2007]

Never seen one made like that.. but its cool

[@Alexagrigorieff]

200 MB IDE: 1992, 1GB IDE: 1995. Those mush have been very hand-me-down computers.

[@frostywuff]

Assembled in Singapore , awesome.

[@ugagnskraake]

I wonder how long it took for these highly educated engineers to find out that pushing and pulling on the seek-head is hilariously ineffective.

[@Hunnter2k3]

@HoneycombAgent A 5.25" drive could hold significantly more data than 3.5" drives we have today (let's forget 2.5") The only problem is the speed needs to come down a little. But more space = more read/write heads, but that, as well as the drive itself, would probably still cost more or less the same to create, but have more chance of failing due to 2+ heads More power+heat for it too Estimates would have it around 10-15TB using current methods A hybrid 5.25" HDD+SSD could work wonders though

[@DanielEinor]

my soviet hdd from POISK (the same year) is 2MB only =( soviets didn't know how to do drives, but that's a really nice kickass brick!

[@WMSJacob]

And I thought my Quantum Fireball sounded awesome! Nice!

[@trevorbrent5092]

My mom always thought my computer was going to take off :)

[@TheEarthboundHeroacw]

Probably if you have a powerful graphics car, lots of ram, and a good cpu. Hard drives don't hatter when running games except how much space they have

[@Jaymobe07]

yes it does depending on the game. If the entire game isnt loaded into memory it would have to gather what information it needs from the hard drive.

[@eddson11]

My first computer had a coupple of hundred megs I think, second one had a coupple of gigs, 3:rd one had 120Gigs 4:th (laptop) had 250 Gigs 5:th (laptop) 750gigs + 1 Ext WD 1TB + 1 Ext WD 2TB. The evolution in computer technology and storage, sure went fast (I'm just 18)

[@KabooM1067]

What's its read/write speeds? I'm curious how far we've gone. Does it exceed 1MB/sec?

[@panelvanman7671]

+prepareuranus its an old MFM hard drive 40mb most likely

[@KabooM1067]

Philip Bolly 40 MB/s? -_-

[@panelvanman7671]

40 mb as in size

[@KabooM1067]

Philip Bolly I asked about the speed though.

[@panelvanman7671]

look on youtube for mfm 40mb test , there is one live test on there , its in kb/s not mb/s the first one i bought was a 20mb they ccould never be fast because of the servo driven seek

[@Hunnter2k3]

This style of head is much better. Those shit ones we have today break so easily. It is the price we pay for smaller sizes though... I'd rather have that 5 1/2" bay being used than the crap we have today. TB sizes just aren't supposed to go in to that sort of mechanical space. And it shows with the terrible failure rates and corruption of data. Without expensive noise absorption, these things eventually vibrate themselves to destruction.

[@jbennett8000]

I miss that sound. :(

Müzeye götör onu haci... Go to museum paps...

[@branjo7823]

reminds me of a floppy read write head. must be from the floppera.

[@Ashton000]

Same head design pretty much

[@chrisdesmottes339]

before actually

[@bitchlasagna4720]

@@chrisdesmottes339 this is after

[@Dutch3DMaster]

Lineair actuators like these were common because they were precise, more precise than was economically viable in the lower-end consumer drives. The drives in servers or terminal stations could have had the swaying-actuator style of head mount already. My dad once took home 2 incredibly big and heavy (I think they were like 3 CD-rom drives high each) hard disks (I think somewhere around 4GB each, which, somewhere around the end of the eighties or beginning of the nineties was a hefty amount of storage) from work that had become obsolete. They took about 20 seconds to get up to speed completely and the head (there were, I think 16 of them :P) doing it's checks and looking for pre-existing routines on the disk made an incredibly amount of noise. The static magnetic field had to be so strong that they couldn't do without 2 extra magnets in the center of the whole head-actuator system (which already was the swaying-arm kind of actuator). Pretty stupid I threw it away (though powering it was troublesome at times, since with it's 4 amps of power wasn't always enough to keep a standard ATX power supply running for it not sensing enough load).

[@TheAppleFanBoyAppleArchivesUS]

Se disque dur provient de qu'elle PC (Apple 2,amstrad....)?????

[@zangetsu2k8]

cool with the stepper motor to control the head. it's a shame we don't use that anymore, would be more fun salvaging

[@SpandanChatterjee2904]

+Azurl what technology do we use now? Are you an electrical major guy?

[@zangetsu2k8]

+Spandan Chatterjee now it's a coil that moves side to side over a neodymium magnet. no, I'm a programmer.

[@the731272]

@Eep386 ok i know what that looks like but so it doesn't look like this or any bit similar. cause the 8465 uses a stepper too so i'm wondering about that

[@DURAMATRIX112]

woah!! thats awesome i like these old drives :)

[@LellePrinter82]

I have a similar drive. It spins up, but the heads won't move an inch.

[@vgamesx1]

and now there sold for a giga-buck with new SSDs costing usually at least $1 per GB.

[@nikko8P]

yes, but minecraft, that's a whole different story

[@TheSHJGaming]

It looks like the mixture of a hard drive and a floppy drive

[@lazerusmfh]

@Hunnter2k3 The new drive head technology is an order of magnitude more reliable than the technology of yesteryear.

[@Zhak7]

Must be very slow. what are the input/output speed ?

[@chettahzahreldine2048]

Welcome to hdd airlines 😂😂

[@the731272]

do you know if the 7080AT still has a stepper in it?

[@DukeOfPrunes23]

i had IBM XT from 1983 with a hard drive that was 10MB....

[@MattBeardless]

my mate threw one on the floor @ 7200rpm and it just flew around until it cut the power XD

[@eddson11]

@Alexagrigorieff Yeah my Dad had the first 3 for a couple of years before I got them.

[@muramasa24]

Sounds like a skill saw. Go ahead...touch it..lol

[@tefatronix]

Where did you get this from?

[@zooropah82]

My first HDD was a 640 MB from a 486 at 33 Mhz 1991 I believe. I was eleven.

[@the731272]

@c4rn493br1n93r it may seem that way, but the disks are only spinning at 3600rpm compared to today's 7200, 10000 and 15000 rpm drives

[@JustineBieberxoxo]

I wonder what they could do capacitywise if they made harddrives 5.25 inches again. I'd probably buy em. 5400rpm would suffice, I have ssd's for speed anyway.

[@Muscleduck]

Hard drives from the early '90's didn't sound that different.

[@alanau8604]

Very COOL!

[@urfanorependra]

that's more like a multi disc fast spinning floppy drive. still using a stepper motor. this must have been really slow.

[@mraiwa1000]

Pretty cool man!

[@OnurYldrm35]

it runs like cnc machine :D

[@ohmygod1550]

+Onur Yıldırım Yeah.

[@Szederp]

Aliens! This is alien technology I tell you!!!

[@illRun4Clownident]

Like a mclarren, but only the sound

[@romphonix]

15 years later we have 1024x the amount of that; 40GB. 10 years later after that we have about 50x the amount of that; 2TB.

[@wdpwdp1414]

that's actually wrong :D 2TB is 50,000 times bigger than 40 mb :D

[@rusti98]

wilson pies we actually have 4 and 5 tb hdd now

[@romphonix]

wilson pies I was talking about 50x of 40GB

[@benshapiro2wt298]

wilson pies WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY MORE 1 TB = 1,024 GB = 1,048,576 MB = 1,073,741,824 KB = 1,099,511,627,776

[@joaopaulotargaryen7368]

Andrea Rustinelli 10TB HAHAHAH

[@djlancer88]

is that how fast planet earth spins durka

[@Shafkatsharif]

It seems like a 70's Volkswagen gears up....

[@maxpopescu5400]

how old it's that harddrive,my harddrive is old by 5 yeard (buyed on 2009)

[@Kipkayfan4ever]

my SSD drive laughs at you

[@IzludeTingel]

Do you ever remember seeing those old hard drives that had plastic coverings instead of sealed metal? The thing was huuge.

[@bednoob2]

not being rude but those kinds had bytes. not MB

[@DaHouseCatPAL]

its A Baby Megatron >:O

[@thaddeusmcgrath]

If this drive was to fall into an inmates hands behind bars, a fortune in Twinkies and cigarettes would be made with the transaction of tattooing once the drive conversion was applied to an operational tattoo gun as seen on Macgyver!

[@X150t]

I have the same model HDD, but it can't be used due to bad sectors.

[@RaptorZX3]

what are those platters made of??

[@80sCompaqPC]

Extremely late reply: aluminum coated with iron-oxide.

[@BoughtNotBuilt]

Jet turbine?

[@TheCRTman]

Awesome!

[@ChineseSweatShoppe]

my four vertex 4 256 ssds laugh at your intel 520, also my 64 gigs of ram laugh at your measly 6, gotta love extra ram for a ramdisk setup

[@techfreak5876]

Where did you get it?

[@KILLA12PSN]

wow 40Mbs

[@iRowey]

you do know those things go for a bomb now?

[@Sodapopper100]

Mary?

[@_P0tat07_]

@faxmanloveswaffles Dude I went past a construction site and an excavator was moving around the site and it really needed some grease in the tracks and thatt to sounded. Enter than bieber

[@DH4Hobbies]

will it run win10 pro? If so you could officially install windows on an angle grinder.

[@filipmac1545]

its to late ater you open a hard drive it wont work anymore because of micro dust particles

[@detestabelx]

Kommt drauf an.

[@80sCompaqPC]

@@filipmac1545 Actually, these old drives are VERY tolerant to dust. This drive would likely work fine if the cover was replaced and it was low-level formatted.

[@dtiydr]

10MB/disc.

[@leonardrou]

I have two of RevoDrive3 X2 960GB SSD PCI-Express x4 and lol!

[@Messerschmitt262a2a]

i would like to have it

[@Hexan33]

Now lets play planet side 2 with that plugged in! It is NASA approved!

[@sergejnadazdin5766]

You could have used that as a tornado siren.

[@mohankrishna1443]

This is the creepiest hard drive i had ever seen in my life

[@nahrainmichael3601]

Older drives use copper coloUred Plates. Modern drives have plates that are mirrors.

[@Roshan_420]

My 10 tb external hdd is basicly my hdd.