(OLD) MGSV Video

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is going to turn 4 years old in 2019! Hard to believe it has been so long for a game so long in the making, but today, we are going to finish my Metal Gear Retrospective that has been apart of the channel since 2016 by evaluating Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and seeing how it has held up!
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[@nothingmore5769]

MGS5 is my favorite unfinished game.

[@deathmetalgek666]

No mission51 and no chapter 3 so i think it still is unfinnished @@uncanny-hector-1906, though i still play the game and i bought it on the day it came out...

[@deathmetalgek666]

It was a pitty imo that they never released mission 51 but it still is a beautiful game to play and i enjoy the fob's @@uncanny-hector-1906

[@campkira]

Same

[@jasonlobo2350]

@@uncanny-hector-1906 why he would said is unfinished though? Had you ever heard of marketing? People wont buy an unfinished game

[@marianoyuba3736]

It absolutely is unfinished, even if you don't count mission 51 (which, oh wait, i do, because there it is), to the point that they never really figured out how to implement key story elements and cutscenes and they just shoehorned them in amongst repetitions of the SAME missions from chapter 1 (not even "retreads" because they are the exact same missions, cutscenes and all), and robbed the ending of any potential punch it might have had because (unlike all other cutscenes which had context and their impact was noticed) the ending just...happened. Think about just HOW strong it would have been presenting the battle against Liquid, Quiet's departure, the Paz ending and the big reveal as a proper sequence of events!! Don't get me wrong, even in its state, it is a MASTERPIECE of a game, and i am absolutely grateful for it...just don't tell me it's finished. Konami thought they played us like a GODDAMN FIDDLE....but they didn't.

[@snark4611]

Boss, get down... *The enemy sniper.*

[@nicholaskenneth113]

stay low and crawl along the ground, that should enable you to sneak past enemies

[@atomikcosmonaut522]

Why does he make it sound like you met the sniper in the past...and it didn't go well?

[@bluegrim4252]

Atomik Cosmonaut because if you listen In on enemy soldiers they talk about her a few times that’s probably y Miller talks about her as if they knew about her already by saying boss get down..... the enemy sniper

[@gizmoray721]

*You destroyed their anti-air radar?! That wasn't one of the targets, but that's put a hole in their air surveillance.*

[@will88TFs4Life]

Hahaha. That's an enemy gunship.

[@astrolividus5236]

The game’s story is ok but the gameplay is what makes me play it after all these years.

[@midshipman8654]

I feel that the story definitely had some interesting concepts that are definitely metal gear worthy, but it kinda fell flat on the execution.

[@astrolividus5236]

Jackson Almodobar yeah but overall its a great game

[@midshipman8654]

Jay Knife I would... more or less agree. I kinda keep mgs5 and revengence in my own separate mental category. They are both great games, but I don’t think they add too much to the overall narrative. I like the gameplay of both, and the stories that are there are solid (if rushed in 5’s case).

[@astrolividus5236]

Jackson Almodobar and also I feel like something is missing somewhere but I don’t know what it is, it feels like its not complete (regardless of mission 51) there were so many unanswered questions I had after playing through it twice. Still one of the best games I ever played.

[@midshipman8654]

Hamzah Saddiq I think the base gameplay design is completely serviceable, if not the most inspired design. But again it doesn’t have to be, it’s a third person shooter. What I like most about it is the interconnected systems that allow it to be kind of a sandbox. Lure an enemy with a decoy, place a c4 charge next to it, blow it up and draw all the guards to the location, that kind of stuff. Gameplay wise I think the biggest problem is the macro level design. Areas are to far apart from each other with little purpose for the 5-10 minutes of traveling between them. Also this is a personal gripe, but in all metal gear games I don’t like killing people since it’s a recorded stat and I feel bad, but on the other hand the most fun parts of the game often include killing. Kinda wish there was a firefight/horde mode so I could just go all out Rambo instead of just sneaking every mission.

[@backupschmliff1156]

The tutorial was more for immersion than for the player. I mean, he was in a coma for 9 years. I thought the whole thing was amazing.

[@charlie1234500]

Hold W. What an amazing segment.

[@noxxiaa]

Rip Ishmael (I haven’t played through the whole game,I don’t know if he lives)

[@charlie1234500]

@@noxxiaa Hope you have fun with the hundred hours of padding, repetitive content and a nonexistent story. And dumbed down gameplay. Complete with a pure health regeneration system and X-Ray vision. And blowing up a shit load of tanks over and over again because Tactical Stealth Espionage. Far Cry 3 outposts galore and a needlessly large and empty map(s). Because I sure did not have fun.

[@noxxiaa]

Oh boy! That sure sounds like “fun!”

[@aliekexie8467]

@@charlie1234500 Then it explains why Definitive experience sells for 4.99 right now on pstore

[@loregasmic]

Snake: "Choose your own legacy." Raiden: *becomes Grey Fox anyway*

[@doktawhawee9870]

That’s what happens when you become an edgy cyborg.

[@midshipman8654]

Dokta Whawee are you saying you become an edgy cyborg when you become an edgy cyborg?!

[@doktawhawee9870]

Very much so.

[@sirvictor4321]

Have any of you played mgs4? Because he doesn't become gray fox.

[@doktawhawee9870]

Victor Sullivan plays Have you heard of a joke? Because we just had one.

[@jojotheswede8444]

Me: MGSV, the last mgs game Random: what about sur Me: THE LAST mgs game

[@Cydia942]

The "mgs" game that shall not be named

[@mysterycupofjoe2670]

MGS Pachinko Machine, "Yeah. Survival is a disappointment."

[@nuggiedejuggie3746]

@@mysterycupofjoe2670 WHAT DID HE JUST SAY

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@quarreneverett4767]

the series was supposed to end at MGS1

[@nutball3756]

"What matters are the Huey tapes and the Truth tapes" Really? The Hamburgers of Kazuhira Miller are the most important tapes in Metal Gear Solid V.

[@EdeniaGaming]

3:36 In the game's defence, this section calibrates your camera preferences (inverted vs normal). When doc asks you to look up, no matter what you do with your analog stick, you look up, so the game knows your preference.

[@solidcake235]

Really? That's genious

[@bobba515]

@@solidcake235 I mean Halo Combat Evolved did that in 2001, so not really new or genius

[@solidcake235]

@@bobba515 idc it was smart anyway and nobody understoos it was a camera calibration

[@bobba515]

@@solidcake235 its not smart or genius if its been done many many times before

[@solidcake235]

@@bobba515 ok I just appreciated it?

[@NotGuy64]

4 years since phantom pain came out? damn how time flies by

[@mattd5240]

Must've smoked too many cigars.

[@iWhisperASMR]

This sums up the game the best: Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg… and my arm… even my fingers. The body I’ve lost… the comrades I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?

[@wiggy009]

Holy shit

[@MantisFoxx2]

Dr. Loomis been 4 years now 🤪

[@askamikaze3936]

Doc: Im afraid its been.. 4 years Me: *panics*

[@SSJerry]

Do people know that you can call the chopper, use the cigar and then it immediately appears next to you so you can get on without waiting much at all

[@LauritzenLucas]

Genius

[@yourdeath7820]

I see you have a brain. A diamond among idiots

[@KahosSaint]

Or just upgrade your chopper

[@yourdeath7820]

@@LauritzenLucas we are diamonds in the rough. Einsteins among neanderthals

[@SSJerry]

@@KahosSaint I'm pretty sure people know that one tho

[@CatManThree]

The scene where Ocelot repeats Big Boss's line towards him about one of his guns in MGS3 was intended to represent how he has changed from acting like an idiot kid to someone who is wiser and serious.

[@ravencollins5638]

Big boss is ocelot's senpai

[@its_heeho]

@@ravencollins5638 Ocelot but he is the stereotypical anime girl.

[@ravencollins5638]

@@its_heeho OwO

[@AgentWolnyTyl3k]

Then why he suddenly got more crazy in Solid's games? I mean - right to Kaz this fun cowboy men is best character... but again - he doesn't feel like Ocelot, at least not without any real (sorry for sounding like Patriots AI) context.

[@CatManThree]

@@AgentWolnyTyl3k Idfk. Ocelot handled weirdly in this game. He never shows his crazy side at all.

[@Demonskunk]

Justifying the paranormal aspects of the MGS series was one of its greatest mistakes.

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

Like the Patriots, some things clearly were never meant to be and shouldn't have been explained.

[@kieran1a2]

The left The Sorrow alone.

[@1stnaruto]

There are still some stuff not explained by nature like the sorrow or volgin. Mantis still had powers too

[@tyskbulle]

I never bought that playing the games. Always thought that ec. nano-machines just enhance their powers.

[@curleypubes3672]

True true

[@adamdavis1737]

I acknowledge how flawed this game's narrative is. And it still hurts as a longtime fan. But, I've dumped so many hours into this game through 2 playthroughs. It's phenomenal in gameplay and freedom. And by far my most played MGS game, even if I think 3 is the best story.

[@kingnro1]

It's sad how much of this game's narrative and thematic content flies over the heads of so many. Ocelot is the way he is because this is what he needs to be for this mission. Chapter 2 is so aimless because it's designed to represent the emotional emptiness of revenge. The reason why the truth mission is number 46 is because that's the only chapter of Moby Dick not narrated by Ishmael. Venom is an amalgamation of the personalities of the player and of Big Boss; when he's speaking, he's BB, when he's silent he's the player. Diamond Dogs are not heroes, they're a cult. Etc. Etc. Kojima finally does something that everyone has been asking for years: he's actually subtle with his story...and then everyone thrashes him for not having enough cutscenes like in the previous games \_('-')_/

[@user-xe5pe9yg2e]

@@kingnro1 Chapter 2 feels so aimless not because of some thematic message, but because it doesn't have Mission 51 to serve as the pay-off for all the nonsense it built up. Chapter 2 builds up said nonsense to keep the player engaged while it picks up up pieces and clarifies any confusion caused by Chapter 1. Chapter 1 leaves the player in a daze because it was poorly paced and should have established most of the stuff told in cassette tapes, from both Chapters 1 & 2, during the main campaign.

[@Gil3ification]

@@user-xe5pe9yg2e Honestly, I think it could very well be a game that's completed but feels like it isn't, and all for a thematic purpose. Look at the beginning of Raiden's Big Shell mission in 2. It was tedious to no end with codec call after codec call hampering your progress. And that is pretty much believed to be Kojima being meta and showing the player what the sequel could have looked like by copying the previous game, and doing it in a way that it is more annoying than that game, something you could read as a statement on high expectations. So Kojima absolutely could murder player enjoyment for a theme. I 100% believe he would, and probably did. Is he the only reason for the game being in the state it is? No. Konami definitely had a hand in the mix, but Kojima was the biggest problem.

[@JS-2482]

Thank you @@kingnro1 Beautifully said. MGSV has been my favorite installment in the series, partly for the reasoning you just mentioned and also because of the excellent gameplay. There is much, MUCH, beneath the surface of this game. Like a great work of art, multiple angles and reviews from more than one source really can bring it's subtly to the foreground. I disagree with multiple points of this video, but the content still has its merits.

[@dm6182696]

​@@kingnro1 You're giving Kojima way too much credit. Ocelot is the way he is, because Kojima's writing has gone downhill since MGS4. Miller is literally the only character in MGS5. He's the only character in the entire game with an actual personality. Because Kojima has been sick of writing making Metal Gear since the early 2000's. For years he's wanted to move on from Metal Gear and has only ever returned because he never wanted to see his beloved series, the series he's created, the series that started his career get derailed by his departure and being made by people who don't understand Metal Gear. (Cough, cough, Metal Gear Survive) You really think Chapter 2 being empty was intentional? You really think he wanted to convey revenge by...having the player replay older missions at harder difficulties? Konami pulled the plug on this games budget because development was not only taking too long but too much money was being poured into it that they were afraid the games development budget was getting so large that it was affecting their ability to make an actual profit on the game. Which is why Ground Zeroes was released. So many things were cut from this game. It has nothing to do with Kojima being thematic. It has to do with the studio trying to save money on an overly ambitious product that was costing them way too much money to make. MGS5 is a weak, overworked, exhaustive punch. And is FAR from this subtle storytelling masterpiece you seem to think it is. All of the insanity in MGS2 was carefully constructed. Everything in MGS2, from the level design mimicking Shadow Moses, to the careful callbacks to dialogue in MGS1, the music, all of it. It was made to deliberately toy with expectations and make people question what they wanted. This? MGS5? Is not that and will never be that. MGS5 is the result of Kojima and Konami being sick of metal gear. That just happened to have a massive budget behind it with carefully detailed graphics. MGS5 will never get the delayed appreciation MGS2 got. Because it was not created to be an over budget disappointment. It simply was one.

[@GamingPenis]

MGS 5 has the best and most varied tactical gameplay ever created

[@warchiefvenomn7612]

Still to this day the best stealth game ever made. I highly doubt we will see another one doing it better that TPP.

[@GamingPenis]

@@warchiefvenomn7612 If kojima stops making stealth games I think it can take up to 10 years until something comes close

[@thevaultdwellerf6691]

Very much so. Not a single game even comes close

[@flo.g.]

@Colm we get that you don't like the game, you don't have to reply to half of the comments in such a passive aggressive manner.

[@GamingPenis]

@Colm yeah such bullshit how you can evaluate and let a sticky situation cool off from afar, it's so untactical.

[@kevinraymer7983]

Since venom got the tape player early in the game, I thought he knew he wasn't the real big boss, but he also didn't know that ocelot and miller did know. He felt he had to speak little in order to not say something that might give him away. Plus he had a bad case of PTSD. Paz was literally a hallucination. I love Venom. HIs silent demeanor and desire not to kill Quiet speaks to his "do no harm" personality from being a medical professional. I love the game.

[@will88TFs4Life]

I thought so too regarding him having known for a while

[@smiler6326]

Which is the reason for keither Sutherland playing his voice as it’s not who we first think it is

[@CPTDOOMED]

Hideo has been trying to rplace David since MGS3. Not the best of friends apparently.

[@kev_whatev]

Kiefer as Venom would’ve been perfect if Hayter had done Ishmael.

[@jeus_cnt]

@@kev_whatev i love the idea and want it too but at the same time it kinda gives away the twist instantly :p

[@drootdoot]

This was my first MGS game. I understand everyones disappointment, but I had fun with it so thats all that matters for me. It came out around my first day of freshman year of high school and I was super hyped. The game just brings me back to a simpler time.

[@dex4139]

This will be considered as a timeless masterpiece mark my words the uniqueness, creativity and smoothness of the gameplay is something I’ve never seen in a game before.

[@realamericannegro977]

@@dex4139 From a gameplay perspective I'm sure

[@SaberRexZealot]

Lol it was announced in my senior year of high school. I didn’t get to play it until I was well into college - still a great memory though.

[@SuperVegitoSSJ2]

"Big Boss was too old to be voiced by David Hayter" But Solid Snake was technically old too (He's even called Old Snake) and he was voiced by David.

[@symphomaniac]

>Too old for Hayter >Hayter voices Old Snake PERFECTLY, a geriatric fuck Yeah okay

[@Jose-se9pu]

David Hayter was fired because Kojima wanted a Hollywood actor to do the voice...he first aproached Kurt Russel (the literal inspiration for Snake), and of course, he said no, and then they went to Sudderland, who said "yes", but most likely recorded all his lines in a single day, in exchange for a lot of money...but hey, Kojima got to have dinner with him in fancy restaurants using Konami's wallet!

[@Roman-yg2bf]

He would need to find a medium between young snake and old snake voice

[@JsReviews]

I didn’t mean anything negative about Hayter there, I was just pointing out how Big Boss has a different voice in all dubs of MGS4, when in MGSV, it’s only English.

[@coryesquire960]

It makes sense why it wasn't Hayter, from a story point of view.

[@harpyproductions6771]

vocal cord parasites vs nano machies who would win?

[@riccardocarlini1746]

*W OL B A C H I A* *C O P U L A T I O N*

[@AmaterasuOfOld]

Nanomachines son!!

[@221b]

One sneaky boi

[@Briel1020]

Both xdxd

[@mf3087]

Nano machines son

[@LordFlaggy]

I personally really enjoyed all the "slice of life" cutscenes as i felt that i knew the whole mgs storyline start to finish and was just happy to see these characters again one last time

[@shardofkingdoms9816]

Dark Lord Flaglo yes

[@foxdie49]

Agree

[@ceoofgulag257]

Finally a game where children are not immortal demi-gods

[@noahraab2429]

Well, you get fired if you shoot em. So they might as well be

[@blestop5998]

Amazing, mission complete. That right there is why you're the best. Boss

[@kkay000]

I Still play this game... *DAMN THOSE DAILY MB COINS* *THEY PLAYED ME LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE*

[@IamMacias]

Wtf do you spedd them on at this point?

[@ARSA525]

Yeah. The fourth FOB has been out for like 2,5 years now.

[@Shutaisei1]

@@IamMacias speeding up whatever. speeding up dispatch etc. the goal is to get as many s++ at this point. lol

[@nagiiboo]

@@Shutaisei1...... You can farm S++ from dead FOBs at this point. Lol

[@codemonkey2914]

I too still play this game. Never agreed to their online terms however, as I do not care for the online aspects of the game. I just play for the enjoyment of the gameplay.

[@DeepSolid43]

3:36 The camera moving is not supposed to be a tutorial, it's supposed to set the camera controls to either "normal or inverted" by making you look up and then right.

[@elhairechsaifeddine9178]

i know right XD

[@quarreneverett4767]

That is what settings have been for for years xD

[@user-xe5pe9yg2e]

That's still overly dramatic. I'd take a menu over an only partially skippible 5 minute cutscene any day.

[@tenbeat]

Infamous 2 did it better. Drop down off the boat with the camera facing down, look up, then turn left because that's where the action is. Rather than putting the camera at a central point and asking you to look away, it's putting the camera in a logical place and then asking you to move it to where it needs to be. So many people don't even realize that's what is happening, they just think it's making you turn toward the action.

[@KitKatHexe]

I found this out the hard way by trying to be a smart-ass and getting stuck with inverted camera for the entire tutorial

[@xxedddwr3011]

When the doctor asks you to look up it is figuring out if you plays inverted or not. It's not a tutorial for moving your stick or mouse

[@Tragel102]

mgsv gameplay is masterclass

[@wesleybcrowen]

This is such a horrible thing to have the best gameplay systems in the franchise but (Phantom Pain is real)

[@FlintlockYT]

You never know.

[@justbny9278]

IT'S MISSING! THE IS MISSING!

[@campkira]

Kojima

[@sewerreports]

AAAAAUUUGHHHH!

[@jimtendo32]

+WesleyB Cowen - yeah dude...it's felt.:( Let's put our support behind Death Stranding.

[@sewerreports]

You can feel it. The Phantom Pain. It was intended not to be full, so you could feel what Venom felt. The Phantom Pain, something that we don't have, will never get and always hurt.

[@corrputgamer]

Ricardo Santos there are virtually no cutscenes in MGSV compared to all the other MGS games. I wish there were more

[@gelothegogang]

@Ricardo Santos Maybe you never played other MGS games aside this one?

[@kev_whatev]

Seems like a really convenient way to explain away an unfinished game.

[@tirefirejones561]

It’s my favorite stealth game, and when that doesn’t work for me, it’s one of my favorite third person shooter.

[@edgarschmedgar8372]

33:41 >says games are supposed to be fun when referring to prologue > complains about how you can willingly stick to one strategy the whole game The point of a sandbox-like game is to play it like a sandbox. What kid wants to play with the same two cool toy cars when they can use their whole collection, even if a ton of them are shitty beat up toy cars. It’s what you make of them.

[@dylana.9057]

Edgar Schmedgar Exactly . Tbh I expected a constructive criticism . But what we got was a whinny little boy that did not get the game he expected and repeated every single arguments we've heard before . Mgsv was flawed but it was so much fun in 60 fps ! And I still think the story had some incredible scenes and some truly captivatinh themes about war and morality .

[@gustavopradella3186]

@@dylana.9057 Becouse war... War never changes...

[@tomasbar1101]

@@dylana.9057 my thoughts exactly

[@benc77]

Another analogy is just because you have a favourite food doesn’t mean that you have to eat it all the time

[@nimble5692]

8:30 I think that venom snake's lack of charisma is done intentionally to foreshadow/highlight the fact that he isn't big boss, so he wouldn't have the natural ability to fill empty air like the actual big boss easily can

[@justbny9278]

That still doesn't make him compelling.

[@nimble5692]

@@justbny9278 true, and I feel like a compelling big boss would have been better, but at least it's justified

[@Junebug89]

@@justbny9278 True, Venom is like a shell in this game. The only way you can really get much from him is projecting what you already know of big boss onto him if you've played mgs3 and peace walker.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@Junebug89 i find it kinda hilarious how people forget that the guy has a block of steel inside his brain, yeah, original big boss was much more entertaining/endearing/charismatic, but this is a guy who ISNT him, had his memory suplanted AND has a massive part of his brain missing.

[@nicholaskenneth113]

@@marcosdheleno since when did he lose a part of his brain?

[@ripbobbyhillmgo1969]

I really wish we got to see more of Miller. He is the most compelling character in MGSV. But after you save him in the beginning he is put on the sidelines, then you rarely see him because there are hardly any cutscenes or story beats that happen throughout the game anyway. *SPOILERS* In my opinion he is the most tortured character in the game and the only character we can really relate with. He was comrades with Big Boss for years, and not only does he lose limbs so he cant fight like he used to even though he is a skilled soldier, but he gets completely betrayed. He had no idea that Venom was a fake and Ocelot always knew. The entire time Miller genuinely believes he is with someone he has known for years, someone who he has been through a lot with, trying to build towards their future goals together as a team. But that is not the case at all, He is left behind with an imitation of what he once knew. With no choice but to feel anger and frustration after being abandonded and lied to, he ends up declaring revenge and actually trains solid snake years later lol. The player and him share the same phantom pain.

[@Nuke-China]

"He had no idea that Venom was a fake and Ocelot always knew. The entire time Miller genuinely believes he is with someone he has known for years, someone who he has been through a lot with, trying to build towards their future goals together as a team." The cut-scene at the end of the game between Miller and Ocelot occurs directly after Miller is rescued. Miller thinks Venom is Naked Snake for the mission you rescue him. After that, he's aware that Venom isn't Naked Snake. Which explains why he is so hostile towards Venom. But by the end of the game (a Shining Light... to our Brothers in Arms), he's fully on board with Venom.

[@ripbobbyhillmgo1969]

@@Nuke-China Thanks for sharing, I was not aware that Miller was informed of Venoms true identity that early in the game. Its pretty interesting and sad that Miller was playing along since the beginning though. Just like Big Boss, he is fully aware that he is taking advantage of a soldier that is loyal to him just to further his own agenda.

[@will88TFs4Life]

@@Nuke-China but then doesn't that contradict what ocelot said about using hypnotherapy to forget venom is fake?

[@Nuke-China]

@@will88TFs4Life He uses the hypnotherapy directly after Miller is brought back

[@will88TFs4Life]

@@Nuke-China so he tells Miller and then makes himself think otherwise, so only Miller knows Big Boss isn't really Big Boss?

[@asujeto-7179]

Quick answer: Yes. You can go now

[@blackvalio4060]

Nah

[@nutball3756]

@@blackvalio4060 It does hold up I don't know what you mean

[@kev_whatev]

“How does MGSV hold up?” is not a yes or no question though...

[@MadameRouzgar]

Well, they did 'explain' why Ocelot was off in this game in the 'Truth' cassette tapes. I don't like the explanation tough, it isn't better than just saying "Psychotherapy, son." I actually like the fact the game itself IS the phantom pain that's spoken of. I also think MGSV is the best game to meet the franchise. Knowing nothing about the franchise leaves you sympathetic with Venom Snake and when you learn more and more everything feels more meaningful. There go my unpopular opinions.

[@shotgunner777]

I agree. With a lore as deep and complicated as MGS, tampering with it and trying to tie up so many loose ends just wasn't going to happen. Venom Snake is the best dude in the series. He does legitimately heroic things despite knowing the entire world wants him dead. The man he's impersonating even sends his son on a suicide mission to kill him. Venom Snake, while not as compelling as The Boss, also had his entire life rewritten by the powers that be, in order to be the nasty villain.

[@MadameRouzgar]

@Vader Gamer I love how when by whatever reason Kojima fails to meet his own expectations he still manages to produce a good game.

[@MadameRouzgar]

@Vader Gamer I said 'the best game to meet the franchise'. For me I believe 3 would be the best game in the franchise.

[@FlameOfRoyeca]

@Vader Gamer it's the finest stealth game ever made tho, despite not being as compelling as MGS 1 and 3.

[@MoreImbaThanYou]

I kinda get behind why Ocelot is the way he is in MGSV. In Snake eater, he and BB were enemies. But they became friends, and this game tries to show that Ocelot actually has a caring side for the person he looks up to and considers a fellow comrade. He maybe ain't as flashy as he is in other MGS games, but the point wasn't to show him as an antagonist, but a friend. And thats one aspect of the game I actually like. Additionally, the game showed us Ocelot torturing Huey. But I agree, he could have been a bit more dickish while still being a bro to Venom. Also, the worst sin about Skull face was that we didn't get his gun.

[@KhalidElMouloudi]

I think Ocelot is better in MGSV than the maniac sounding generic villain he was in MGS. Also he knows that Big Boss is actually the medic and he's keeping it a secret, thus the supporting and fake personality he had the whole time. MGS3 Ocelot was young and got a valuable lesson from Big Boss in the end and that's why he changed afterwards.

[@kyriss12]

Even as an ally though his personality was way off. Ocelot was always portrayed as cocky and impulsive, having him be the moderate voice of reason doesn’t really fit.

[@sugoistalin7809]

@@KhalidElMouloudi Well no, he doesn't know he's not BB, they specifically mention he hypnotised himself to believe he IS BB.

[@jtnachos16]

@@kyriss12 Except him being the 'voice of reason' is solely because Miller went completely off the deep end. He's basically supressing his own views to play the neutral view/devil's advocate. Given Ocelot's own history of flip-flopping loyalties and super-spyness, it doesn't seem out of line to me that he would modify his behavior to fill a need for a mediator. To add stability for the DD as a whole, against the nutjob that is Miller and the distant 'boss' that is Venom.

[@ayoissac]

@@kyriss12 I mean, he's a SPY. You kinda don't want to have the same personality if you're a, you know, SPY.

[@FrozenTundra88]

Minor correction, but the 'One that Covers' (the parasites used by Quiet, the End, the Pain, etc.) aren't the vocal cord parasites. I get it, though. Parasites as pretty much an early form of nanomachines was a little hard to stomach. (Though the vocal cord parasites specifically were more an early form of Foxdie) As for Mantis, no augmentations. He's a genuine psychic. Regardless of what Ocelot said in 2, even just the existence of the Sorrow debunks it. Lastly, just to be fair to Paz, even though she ultimately proceeded with her mission from Cipher, she was genuinely getting attached to BB and the others at Mother Base. Pretty much why she disclosed Zero's location if it would save Big Boss (moot point since Skull Face proceeded to attack and try to kill Big Boss because he wanted vengeance on him as much as Zero. Actually kind of sad that most of the bad events in the Solid Snake era were actually a result of Skull Face's vengeance in multiple ways. From Foxdie to Cipher/the Patriots going out of control).

[@FrozenTundra88]

@Ricardo Santos Played and beat. :) I didn't contest what the parasites are. ?_?

[@MajorasLullaby]

What did Ocelot say in 2?

[@FrozenTundra88]

@@MajorasLullaby He said there was no such thing as the supernatural, only advanced technology. I was pointing to Mantis and moreover, the Sorrow, to show that's just not true in the MGS universe.

[@MajorasLullaby]

Yeah I mean you cant discard the supernatural aspect of the game by explaining its just parasites. That doesnt do justice to what the game's universe has established. @@FrozenTundra88

[@ayoissac]

@@MajorasLullaby but what if....hear me out.....what if they're SUPERNATURAL PARASITES!! 🤔🤔😱😱😱😱

[@jakefoley9539]

Don't take this personally, but this is a weak analysis. In the future I'd suggest taking the time to better study the game before critiquing it on such a specific level. Your overall conclusions are generally well-founded but every time you go into specifics you reveal how little you actually payed attention to the game. For example, you were asking what Mantis has to do with Volgin? They were stored in the same facility. Mantis sensed the anger and resentment Volgin held for Boss. Volgin's hatred influenced Mantis, causing his body to reanimate as the Man on Fire. This is clearly stated in the game, and its just one example where you could have mitigated a lot of your own complaints by simply paying attention. If you want to make a more vague style of review, that's completely okay, but maybe stay away from nitpicking small details which you have admitted you weren't interested in enough to pay attention to. Hopefully you can take this criticism and use it to improve future reviews. Best of luck.

[@z0mbyz624]

To be fair, this game does not make its details accessible. And that comes from someone who loves little details

[@ArielTst]

Even then, the explanaiton is still weak, as in lots of other things. Felt the anger.. of a corpse? A spirit? Was mantis able to revive people? Not a well-written plot.

[@NSDominator]

@@ArielTst Not to mention the fact that his hatred for Boss caused him to reanimate and chase down a guy who's... not the boss? I'm not gonna take liberties and assume that the Man on Fire is incapable of sight, but wouldn't a being like that, whose eyes are most likely useless due to them belonging to a decades old corpse, rely on otherworldly signatures to identify Venom Snake as NOT being Boss? It's almost like Kojima forgot what the big end-game twist was and Volgin's motivation to live and stalk Venom was essentially a mistake. Kinda takes the intimidation and motivation away from an already useless cameo...

[@ImTheMan0fSteel]

@@ArielTst that's the kinda shit that's in ALL kojima writing. What are you talking about? It's no different from a lot of how things are explained in other games

[@MgoADFOX]

What do you mean he has to pay attention? For him to know that. He has to sit there and listen to tapes. Which is BS imo. The entire story is poorly made because of Kojimas ego.

[@ThePickleBehindTheSlaughter]

the best way I found to play this game is to treat the tapes like codecs because on my first playthrough I completely forgot about them and nothing made sense

[@Junebug89]

They're codecs that you can play the game while listening to... kinda. It limits your ability to hear guard movements so it can hurt your infiltrations and fucking Miller loves talking over them. If it only fucking paused the casettes when someone called in by radio, like, fuck me that was such an oversight...

[@Tomn8er]

@@Junebug89 well TBF they DO have a pause button. I usually listened to them on MB where some stupid soldiers would inevitably start chit-chatting over them in the background. I'd pause the tapes at that point and promptly go throw the bastards to the ground lol

[@cheatsykoopa98]

I just wish ocelot did more of his pose and spinned his guns more even in fob where you can play as him you still cant spin his revolvers also why did they take away his single action armies? they’re the greatest handguns ever made

[@supersolidsnake7772]

I know it doesn't mean much, but there are mods that allow you to get them back on PC. It gives me some of the realism back.

[@rezevilfan]

Most likely licensing issues from the gun manufactures prevented the guns to be used. Japanese game company's and devs do have a history of giving the middle finger to copyrights holders, but new copyright laws in Japan prevent that now from happing. So most likely what happen was when Konami and Kojima ask to use the rights were A. told no by the company who has the patent or B. they wanted to much money for the use. That and from what I gathered, It can be a real pain the ass to get a copyright license for anything so it cheaper and faster to make something up.

[@azureflame125]

Isn´t Ocelot playing a part in this game too? I remember they said somewhere he hypnotized himself to forget Venom is a decoy so that would explain his different personality.

[@bird1ee._..__._._.__._.613]

Yeah in 4 ocelot leads a military organization like this so he might've been using snake to get the organization to him so he could make money

[@bobba515]

@@bird1ee._..__._._.__._.613 in 4 its Liquid that has taken over Ocelots body, not Ocelot

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

@@bobba515 It's Ocelot's self-hypnosis making him believe that Liquid has taken over. Liquid is still 100% dead.

[@IQ2992]

never do the same thing twice and kepp that as a rule when replaying a mission. Watch the magic you can create yourself on attempt 10 lol

[@richardbasso22]

How this game should have ended kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2KxhpKvn7SZh5Y

[@SpinningTurtle66]

I still return to this game occasionally, despite all of the issues.

[@CarloNassar]

Now you got to review Metal Gear Survive after the MGS5 games! 😀

[@robertkovarna8294]

Yes! I want to see him do MGS survive.

[@shooter5769]

That would be...interesting. especially that I personally enjoyed it.

[@riccardocarlini1746]

not gonna lie I enjoyed the first 2 hours, but after that you realize it's the same shit over and over, except for the fact that food becomes harder to find

[@Starzoh]

Yes and then the acid games and the gameboy game! LET'S JUST DAMN HIM TO AN ETERNITY OF REVIEWING METAL GEAR GAMES

[@shooter5769]

@@Starzoh Aaaaamen.

[@maddogsgaming7567]

Metal gear solid v is really bad in terms of story, but the gameplay is so addictive that I played it for so long! I'm at 73% right now

[@comanaut9566]

Mad Dogs Gaming - I’m on 90% trying to get 100 without a guide but those damn animals & conversation mission tasks are killing me.

[@Jose-se9pu]

The gameplay is excellent, but it gets soooooooooo repetitive doing the same missions over and over...

[@comanaut9566]

Coleco 84 - yes the side ops can feel like a chore, but in part that can be the players fault; using the same weapons & tactics each time. If you use your imagination the game truly is a sandbox. I’d recommend watching this kzbin.info/www/bejne/r320ZmuCZph1mrc

[@linkinpark4everize]

@Linda Niemkiewicz There are many tactics that can be just as efficient as each other depending on the situation. A group of enemies closely placed to each other: stun grenade, a bit farther so that a stun grenade can't get all of them: rocket punch. Two enemies walking beside each other, let's see, a couple of leg shots with the tranquilizer gun , may be an e-stun decoy, have an enemy slice it and get shocked , pull the other one before raising the alarm with the hand jehuty then slam their face into the ground. So many examples , just think ;)

[@linkinpark4everize]

@Linda Niemkiewicz You can challenge yourself though. Currently my base is at a pretty high level so I can't extract but the best soldiers. Replaying some of the early missions without being able to get rid of unconscious bodies as easily made the game feel fresh again for me. Also don't forget to disable reflex mode and MARKERS , see how well you fare in a giant enemy outpost prepared with sniper rifles, shotguns, body armor or during the night with night vision and binoculars, without being able to see where each enemy is at all times or the safety net that is reflex mode. Trust me, even after 200 hours or so of pure gameplay, it's tough, especially with the lower grade equipment and trying to remain undetected all the way through, but is much more satisfying when you get that S rank after an attempt that has lasted for little over an hour :D

[@ModelJames13]

When I first played through MGS4 I thought it was the greatest thing yet. After finishing the game the freshness started to fade away and I saw what a flawed and empty game it really is. But MGS5, though it leaves a phantom pain in your heart, is still a thrill and always will be.

[@bird1ee._..__._._.__._.613]

Yes mission 43 and the speech after it hit hard and this game gets more hate because a lot of fans aren't happy with a creator who probably knew his time was almost up

[@WW1N73R]

*snake eater starts playing* what a thrill...

[@angelfire1987]

Intro - Ground Zeroes Main - TPP Chapter 1 Conclusion - TPP Chapter 2

[@utubrGaming]

Well then, that's that. Literally there's only either Ghost Babel or the Ac!d series to go through. Alternatively, you can do the Splinter Cell series. I'm interested to see your take on it. Or the Syphon Filter series, that is far more lesser-known, and was a contemporary counterpart to MGS.

[@papersonic9941]

Hitman would also be great.

[@selemanecu]

nice that you mention Ghost Babel since we know SPOILERS That it's Jack's VR Mission... and then come the strange similarities that this Mission has with MGS5 (both ground zeroes and phantom pain) here a few example's Venom Snake & Skull Face = Augustine Eguabon & Black Arts Viper, Black Chamber = XOF and of course Metal Gear GANDER = Metal Gear Sahelanthropus and yes Gander is a rejected design for Metal Gear Rex!

[@kylecampbell565]

There’s also survive. I want to find out if the game is really that bad or if most of the criticism is around the game simply existing

[@user-xe5pe9yg2e]

​@@selemanecu It's obvious that Kojima decided to use the VR subplot contained within MG:GB's bonus VR missions as a basis for MGS2's plot instead of what he built up in MGS1. Beyond a few references in the main series it's never touched on and is confirmed as non-canon in the timeline. A fate that followed every MGS game Kojima didn't work on.

[@The_Buff_Guy]

utubrGaming good call! syphon Filter is what my channels all about, fukn love that franchise.

[@Iamwrongbut]

Personally, when Quiet calls the chopper at the end to save you, I found that extremely emotionally powerful. She went from trying to kill you to sacrificing herself for you. So good.

[@taepark5330]

Remember when fans speculated that Quiet was actually Chico. Pepperidge Farms Remembers.

[@nosleep1271]

Holds up very well. I’m playing again as we speak for the first time since launch. I spent easily 200+ hours just investing in the single player. Definitely the best game I’ve played while steeped in such controversy and developmental trauma.

[@PayFewYet]

Paz's storyline is pretty good actually when you think about the fact that Venom's Horn is actually Paz's bones, she's literally always with him

[@justbny9278]

That shit is Metal dude Though the over one hundred teeth found in Venom's body must be At Least partially hers

[@PayFewYet]

@@justbny9278 it can't be metal. Look at the cutsceen, when this stuff hits him, helicopter didn't explode yet, nothing did, except Paz. And Doc says in the begining, that those are bons. Thats actually why it grows when you kill people, Paz is peace, peace is leaving you

[@kylecampbell565]

That’s morbid and disgusting

[@TheWanderer39]

TheJetX08 the doctor literally says they can’t do an MRI because of the metal right after he shows the picture of it in his head

[@PayFewYet]

@@TheWanderer39 metal is not in his head, its in his budy, its the shrapnel. He literally says 'We found human bones and teeth in you; and right after that shows his head scan

[@elhairechsaifeddine9178]

ok. but I still think this game was a godamn masterpiece

[@Lunarice98]

I always thought of the missions as episodes in a tv show so it didnt really bother me.

[@Garry_Combine]

If only this had Peace Walkers co-op.

[@lotariovergamota6984]

yeeeeeeeee, fuck yeah, shame

[@T2266]

29:50 I don't agree on this part. Not fully at least The weapon slots limits you with one weapon of each category. Why the hell can I carry a hand gun with one sniper rifle and one assault rifle but not just three hand guns? In PW you can put what every weapons in your given weapon slots.

[@T2266]

31:59 I don't see this as an improvement. Since the mother base here is just a giant empty box. There's basically no building you can go into. And all the soldiers ever do is guarding. No matter what unit they are supposed to be in. I'd say it's really a let down that you might just as well not showing the base at all like in PW.

[@0-Elias-0]

MGSV = Masterpiece. I'm at 948 hours and counting. In terms of playing hours, my next two closest games come in at about 300 hours. MGSV is just so immersive.

[@DC.15]

Wow, my dude. How are you keeping yourself into it, and amused?

[@avianchase2073]

Dean Comr the gameplay is very tactical and fun whats more to say

[@DC.15]

@@avianchase2073 I have played a lot. Just not a thousand hours. Idk what there is left to do. Lol

[@0-Elias-0]

@@DC.15 Oh, I got myself knee-deep in those FOB Missions and PF Leagues. Take a look: Espionage Rank = 6880 PF Rank = 982 PF Grade = AAA Offensive Capability = 330,036 Offensive Durability = 748,828 Defensive Capability = 408,482 Defensive Durability = 678,589 Once I get my Material levels near/at the maximum then I'll put the game down (≈ 3 more weeks).

[@DC.15]

@@0-Elias-0 oh right, woah. Fair play. My fob stuff is so average. 😂

[@chrishowell6469]

My favourite Metal Gear stories are MGS1 and 3, mainly because they're pretty straightforward. All the themes of war, politics, betrayal, genes, memes, and more enhance the stories, but don't drown them. At their core, these are stories about a man doing his duty despite the walls of his world being torn down around him. And that's what makes them compelling. Watching David and Jack fall in love, have their hearts broken, bodies abused, and their values questioned and sometimes torn apart all the while fighting and killing his way through men and women to stop a potential nuclear holocaust. It's compelling as all hell.

[@silent7878]

Game has good graphics, good frames and damn their good character customization. Plenty of guns with gun customization on the side, and if you want more outfits and stuff for your character, you can play f O b missions, the game gives you plenty of do, there's so much content I'm almost all s ranks on my missions. Soon I'll have my raiden suit

[@cesarmigueldasilvacaraccio2297]

You got the outfit?

[@lequidam8827]

It's a great review and all but something I don't understand is why nobody talks about the deeper elements of the game like the first infection on mother base which is one of the most player engaging moment in this game... Or why no one talks about all the questions this game asks about English language dominion and Language in general, about the question of ethnicity and borders in Africa. People seems to only want the entertaining parts of the game "the next episode of Big Boss epic story" or fan service such has "Play the fight between Solid and Venom" but the core of the game is really not there. In my opinion the serie's story has never been about the characters and there actions but more about the exploration of several political and philosophical themes (even if the writing of Kojima is a little cheesy by Western standards). Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain is about Lost, Identity, Language and Communication but it's too bad that many reviewer just talk about the tip of the iceberg, about how the game failed to tell a conventional story (The story of MGSV has to be earned by the player, it comes within the soldier's conversations, environmental narration and the cassette tapes) I hope that one day, the unfinished mess that is Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain will be seen by the majority of players as one of the greatest attempt to rise the medium like MGS2 in 2001

[@dan-k-doge1960]

deep comment, deserves more likes, i want people to point out how BAD is big boss, he is just as bad as Zero. No one acomplish their goal, they just fail, miserably, damaging a lot of people in the way, and themselves

[@lequidam8827]

@@dan-k-doge1960 The Metal Gear Saga is also about people searching for freedom and tragically failing to free themselves by enslaving others.. Except for Solid

[@dan-k-doge1960]

@@lequidam8827 yeah, in the game, solid is the hero he doesnt want to be, but everyone needs to, time and time they always put him on the frontline when he doesn't want to be, not because he is afraid of dying, failing, or anything, but because he is afraid of being betrayed, as seen in all of the previous metal gears where he's just been a puppet... He doesn't want to fight anymore to avoid causing innecesary pain to others that are not involved in the conflict (ex. Meryl, Olga, and to some extent even Naomi and Raiden)

[@jameskarter4727]

@Any Rebel i think a big part of the story is about finding your own personality. also if u learn a new language u learn also a new way to think, and by forcing people to get use of other languages, then there own, u force people to change there way of thinking .

[@dan-k-doge1960]

@Any Rebel that pos up in the game because of the constant conflict with the many tribes africa has and their constant struggle for power agianst the others (in some parts of it anyway) and plus how the americans and russians use this to make them grab a weapon and fight for them and thus, make them learn their language and stuff, its fictional to some extent, but has some truth behind it. The english language dominion its also a recurring theme in the game, and in history in general, because USA did everything important to the plot of the game, and thus it revolves around it

[@CatManThree]

The language parasites are heavily explained in the tapes in regards to how they work

[@jsanabr2]

You Mgs Portable Ops Review was extremely appreciated Unbiased , well constructed and best well put fan review!

[@joshuapatrick682]

mSGV PP works by allowing you to choose your own difficulty while playing. Sure you could snipe tranq guards and take the path of least resistance or you could use sneaking and decoys to go through the heaviest areas. I like this as when you realize it’s happening you can start making adjustments to your strategy to ramp the difficulty up.

[@iamseb11]

*Almost always I find S Rank soldiers in Free Roam. So that's why I still play it ._.*

[@haroonabassi1821]

i do have one disagreement and it would be about the play styles. The first time I went to Africa and started fighting walker gears i started packing a silenced lethal side arm and a grenade launcher. It helped me to realize the "downfall" of Big Boss. Sure tranqing people yields higher rewards but wet-work is just that...work. and when something feels like work the brain naturally starts to cut corners and do things in half the time with half the energy expenditure. I don't care about every A+ soldier when I'm looking for intel or a blueprint. Sometimes A+'s gotta die so i can just get in and out quickly lol.

[@gonzaroa5346]

Very and i mean VERY true there, my dude.

[@supersolidsnake7772]

A+ soldiers quickly become phased out, once you see an S++ soldier, you'd think differently. But I got the point you were making.

[@DonCurrywurst]

Weird...I never used that thing and barely killed anyone (well except those "replay"-missions at the end...I airstriked the shit out of everyone)...well, I usually dont play that many stealthgames and here, I completly engulfed in it

[@Mittryng]

I know it's old but I'm playing now myself lol, and I realized that the game until now is not very encouraging for you to do more ingenious stuff, is very repetitive, sometimes I do things with more whim and extravagance, but just for the sake of it is tiresome and boring, it needs more challenge and immersion

[@haroonabassi1821]

@@Mittryng This is very true. I found that the subsistence missions offer that experience to some degree because you're forced to memorize the base layouts and get creative. Playing that and then re-playing the same base on a regular mission is a great feeling. Now that I think about it I just might re download this game for those missions alone.

[@alexbvevo2028]

The storytelling in the first chapter was amazing. You had to piece together the story from what was happening in gameplay /cutscenes, tapes, and dialogue, instead of everything being fed to you from a Codec conversation. Even Skull Faces plan makes scene when you pice the story from tapes, gameplay and what he told you. This game would have been amazing if it was finished as intended.

[@ulisesavila2879]

@@Vkat696 absolutely. Mgs was always about a picturesque story with some pretending commentary, enjoyable and disfrutable. Idk who was the genius of putting tapes so you could "hear" them while concentrating on playing?

[@Couch_Banana]

Personally, my biggest problem with the Venom Snake twist is that it doesn't make sense for the medic to be as good at his job as the real Big Boss. No amount of hypno-therapy, facial surgery and body massages in the world could have given the medic the physical capabilities, nor the skills for that matter, that he needed to inpersonate Big Boss, considering he has no actual training in sneaking and stuff, yet he's somehow able to be just as good as the original. It's ridiculous. And before anyone says that he should have Big Boss' skills because he has his memories, that's like saying that someone that read on how to code with no prior experience can just jump right into game development. It takes months, maybe years, until you're reasonably ready.

[@ilfirinms]

It's a game where this s**t happens all the time, so this is not stepping from the line. And, it has some nice parallelity with me/you/player. When I started game, I knew everything about BB, story and such (played previous games), but it was years, since I played it last and was very sloppy at the beginning, but after hours of punishing (snake), I became Big Boss again, sorta, still plans blow up sometimes.

[@Ytomany]

Plus it makes a giant plot hole where you are like why dont they just hypnotize all their men to be the best soldiers ever, the plot of this game really doesn't make any sense but anytime trouble happens they can go "oh uh the patriots erased that from history or whatever, anyway the patriots." Like this is a game where you ignore the story and just play it to have fun.

[@Couch_Banana]

@@Ytomany My god, you're right! The hypnosis makes even LESS sense now! And even worse, it completely devalues the idea of cloning Big Boss, considering that his clones needed both training and time to physically grow up, while Venom didn't need that at all. ...what the hell, Kojima?

[@mf3087]

Game holds up perfectly I still play it and the other MGS games except survive

[@Polfor]

So you still play all mgs games ^^

[@mf3087]

All except survive

[@MegaSolidninja]

Survive shouldn't even be mentioned....it's not a metal gear game......it only has the title metal gear....but I can make stupid zombie survival game and call it metal gear....doesn't make it metal gear.....heck I can make a porn movie and call it metal gear.....doesn't mean it's metal gear....

[@kingdomhultimatefan]

@@MegaSolidninja now now, "The Phantom Peen" may have been a porno, but it was still more of a metal gear than Survive.

[@CommanderDrake]

Don't consider this as a hate comment i just wanna point out some things that i disagree with. 1) I think majority of people haven't quite understood that MGSV's story is quite different, let me explain. The story instead of revolving around the characters it revolves around it's enviroment and more importantly Venom himself. There's a video that tries to explain the story and i think it did it quite well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKirYXSMfMtoeqs 2) You said that when you're dropped into the AO that it's just from point A to B, well not really, every mission has this list of secret side objectives that the player can discover when exploring the mission area, here's an example: Let's say the very first mission Phantom Limbs, your primary objective is to rescue Kaz, hovewer when the player opens the Idroid for the first time he/she can notice that there some other bases that are there free to explore, so out of curiosity, the player takes the detour to check it out, when he/she gets there they can notice a soldier that looks a bit out of place, red barret, a uniform that looks differently from the others, so the first instinct is to extract and so he does, wualah! It was a secret objective and game rewards the player accordingly. 3) About the emptiness of the world when traversing it. It's a warzone what do you expect? Also when traveling from in your words "point A to B" that's a great opportunity to listen to those tapes. 4) Characters like Man on Fire and Psycho Mantis aren't usseles they're there for a reason. Mantis was there to cause all those paranormal occurrences while also exploring his relationship with Liquid more, Man of Fire was there to strengten the Venom is not the real Big Boss more while also being the live impersonation of revenge.

[@sugoistalin7809]

Whats also interesting about your 2nd point is, there's a lot of stuff that happens in missions that aren't a side objective. They're just there.

[@jaredcress4328]

i thought the introduction was actually super memorable. the way you are forced to crawl for the first 10 minutes of gameplay (since you obviously have atrophy after being in a coma for 9 years) and feeling totally helpless as psycho mantis and Volgin utterly demolish the hospital you find yourself in along with all the patients. It feels subversive to introduce one of the most badass video game characters of all time and have you literally crawling around helplessly in a hospital gown, vulnerable, missing an eye and an arm, forced to accept help from a stranger just to survive. like or dislike the game you can't deny the intro is incredibly memorable at the very least. to say that it just flat out "doesn't work" because it's "not fun, and the point of video games is to have fun" seems short sighted. There's not one unified "point" to video games, and sometimes a certain section of a game will sacrifice or tweak gameplay mechanics in order to serve a narrative, or subvert player expectations which I believe is what the game was doing here. A game can't be 100% only "fun" the whole time - sometimes it has to slow down and let the story and characters breathe a little. I found the intro to be incredibly gripping and captivating and had me on the edge of my seat, waiting to see what happened next although to be fair I do agree with the overall point that the game doesn't really do anything with it from there, mostly just barebones exposition that tries to tie together the fact that you're basically just jumping from mission to mission. definitely lacks the same time of staying power in terms of story that previous entries had although just in my opinion the missions and gameplay are fun enough to just about make up for it.

[@SpinningTurtle66]

Definitely one of my most favourite games. It doesn’t hold up well compared to other games but it’s incredibly fun and offers a unique experience.

[@apantosmithe]

Just a note, the reason for having to look up and down at the start is for the game to set itself to normal or inverted controls

[@dixonpuhols7782]

You had an issue with some weapons taking 40 minutes to develop? Bro you dont even know. Top tier weapons can take 10 days, yes, DAYS to develop. Real life days. That's hitting "develop weapon" in the game, and not being able to use it for a week and 3 days in real life, to the second. And advancing the system clock doesn't work either. They know that trick. But luckily you can speed up development of weapons and base facilities. How? With real life money of course. Putting in your credit card number in and buying "mb coins". I can't believe you didn't rip this game a new one for this cheap cash grab.

[@durrtyjerzeeable]

sad part is those guns are FUN...after I got my top NL assault rifle I just a grenade launcher on it was the only thing I ever needed

[@sugoistalin7809]

I actually don't mind that, thats a more "hey look I know you wanna use this weapon but maybe don't play this for hours every day, get some rest" I mean I doubt thats what konami was going for but it's the end result. Plus most people play this game over the course of months. It took me 15 months to 100% the game. Not everything has to be rushed.

[@Junebug89]

@@sugoistalin7809 A day then maybe, 10 days seems a bit much

[@InternetTAB]

You should play eve sometime

[@ayoissac]

Idk, I feel like of it was a cash grab, they'd be mentioning it alot. You know forcing it onto you. I didn't even know about mb coins till I was half way done with the game. Then I just spent what I had collected on that one combat deployment that gives you 2million gmp.

[@jongmagee]

The title of The Phantom Pain was a a clue in itself since that's the sensation people get when they have a missing limb. They feel some odd pain for a limb they don't have.

[@MustangSallyB1atch]

In the prologue, if you move the camera in opposite directions to what the doctor says it activates inverted controls.

[@user-xe5pe9yg2e]

In regards to Zero's confession to Big Boss as heard in the Truth Tapes, I think that even if Zero wasn't a vegetable by the time Big Boss woke up Boss would still hate him. Actions speak louder than words and the mess that Zero created would be more than enough personal justification for any normal person to despise Zero's guts till their parting breath, let alone Big Boss himself. The real plot hole is why didn't Big Boss find Zero after he woke up. It's been years since I played MGS4 but the time scale for the Aged Big Boss finding Zero after the Patriots network went down has to have been at most a week. That's an older, and thus weaker, Big Boss in a world completely foreign to him with far superior surveillance & security technology.

[@GamingBuzz1]

OMG... Im not the only one who thought ocelot was just a completely different personality type in that game... Like holy shit if I never played a game before 5 I would think Ocelot was always straight and narrow/good guy.... instead of a torturing , always trying to best snake villain. Ocelot has never been presented as a good guy archetype and that was a huge problem for me.....

[@GamingBuzz1]

DigiFox 5 sarificed so much story for gameplay... they forgot that the true fans don't mind the 10-20 min cutscenes that come up every 20-30 min. We actually WANT them smh. The gameplay always felt like filler to to be rewarded with an epic cutscenes

[@GamingBuzz1]

DigiFox blame the writing for sure ... ocelots non existent because this story is non existent

[@1stnaruto]

Its still a masterpiece

[@itscomplicatedwatches]

It's not the send off we wanted but it's the best gameplay MGS by far, and if you got into the FOB missions, wow. Very challenging.

[@sk8paradoxity]

I always considered the FOB missions to be the precursor to the thematic idea of the Solid Snake Simulator of MGS2

[@whodatninja439]

This is my favorite MGS game honestly, aside from MGS1. Story is disappointing and feels rushed, but the gameplay is the best it's ever been, the best stealth game ever. The graphics are amazing (on PC) and you really grow attached to Motherbase and its crew. Seeing the helicopter landing at the base never got old for me. I was devastated during the virus outbreak. And i really like Keifer as Snake! I looked forward to hearing him speak every time the awesome (but rare) cutscenes played. By Peace Walker, i could tell that Hayter had trouble doing the voice, it didnt sound natural anymore.

[@aidancorgi5608]

Who Dat Ninja I agree.

[@The_There_Man_Show]

This my favourite game of all time, along with Red Dead Redemption.

[@yourdeath7820]

vs642.wordpress.com/2015/09/22/critical-analysis-of-metal-gear-solid-v-the-boldfaced-lie/ Maybe this will change your mind about the story and ending

[@whodatninja439]

Your Death i like the story in MGS5, I just wish it was better told with more cutscenes. The cutscenes that are there were sooo good, I wanted more of them! The cinematography, the acting and the music was just perfect.

[@yourdeath7820]

@@whodatninja439 well we're allowed to have different opinions. At least you said you liked it. One thing that confuses is that when mgs4 was released people said it had too many cutscenes but in mgs5, when they are toned down,people complained about the lack of cutscenes.

[@jimtendo32]

MSG 1 - 5 ...always incredible, impressive, yet increasingly bonkers stories, I loved them all, even 5...the tragic departure of Kojima from Konami...R.I.P MGS - Lost but never forgotten. Time to move on. Cannot wait for Death Stranding.

[@solidparas1925]

The problem is many people including me cant move on or evem forget what konami did to the franchise

[@DaneofHalves]

This game was lots of fun. Lots of love put into it. I wonder how hard it must have been to bring something fresh to a series that is decades old. Precious.

[@leonardogermannsanna350]

when venom says: "..." so touching!

[@TXFDA]

I want to point out that I actually don't mind the intro hospital bit, as slow as it may be. My problem with it is they, like a lot of devs, didn't consider multiple playthroughs. I actually enjoy the intro. It was slow as balls, but it was cinimatic enough, it told a story, and it was neat. But if I were to play the game a second time, the same intro would then become one of the most boring parts of the game to sit through. The interest is in the fact that I don't know what's gonna happen. Once I know what's happening and how to play the game already, I don't want to be forced to sit through the intro again. The same problem happens on so many games, it's a little ridiculous that game companies haven't figured out that there needs to be a button to skip an intro or tutorial. Hell, even the Borderlands series, a series entirely based around replaying it for New Game + and New Game ++, has the same issue. The intro and tutorial is super boring. You start at a low level with shitty weapons and missions such as "Buy a shield" despite already having picked up 5 shields on the previous mission, just because it's trying to teach you what a shield is. If it's my second or third playthrough, I don't particularly want to spend an hour following tedious missions trying to teach me the game. Just toss me in.

[@gseba2653]

Absolutely loved this review. Don’t stop doing your thing. You are making great video game reflections. Thank you for this.

[@BeforeIforgot]

''How did Psycho Mantis get his powers without nanomachines, was it vocal cord parasites?'' I mean you could always listen to the tapes and you'd find out

[@TheHaddonfieldRegistry]

MGS4 is easily more controversial for the simple fact that MGSV was, and still is, a massive hit with casual gaming fans, much more than any other mgs before it. MGS4 was divisive within a niche fandom, and thats about it. MGSV is divisive...but the casual audience, the bulk of all gamers, would never have guessed.

[@roxydeinum75]

Kept me waiting huh.

[@sugoistalin7809]

Side note about chapter 2 missions: the harder versions of previous missions AREN'T mandatory. You can literally get the truth mission without touching them.

[@sugoistalin7809]

"Word for word dialog" as you show them paraphrasing rather than just repeating. You don't know what word for word means do you? it means saying exactly what a person said before, without changing it in anyway. The fact that the examples you showed had at least showed them saying it in a different way makes it not that.

[@dylana.9057]

Sugoi Stalin Yeah . Everybody raged because of those missions . But they are only there to fill the lack of content on chapter 2 . Yes the game was unfinished but no Chapter 2 was great . Quiet left , the mother base killing and the truth ending . Mgsv is still a flwawed but beautiful masterpiece .

[@stevebob240]

I just finished it for the first time, I've only played MGS 2 before, and Death Stranding. I really enjoyed it, I can definitely see where it was rushed or unfinished but what is there, is very well done. The gameplay systems, especially the enemy AI is really amazing.

[@Attaxalotl]

MGS3 🤝MGSV Being super detailed

[@worsethanyouthink]

It's really interesting watching these reviews because the story is something you actually have to go out of your way to learn by secret button prompts and listening in on characters in the world especially the targets you are sent to eliminate or extract as a majority of the story is given in that way

[@JamesCarmichael]

Sane Person: It really isn't that good. Kojima Apologist: It's supposed to be not good.

[@MeanMustard650]

James Carmichael I bet you’re eating those words with death stranding!!! Wait...

[@jaredmartin7040]

It's not good it's incredible

[@johndoe2621]

Holds up just fine no commentary needed

[@JohnnyUndaunted]

The repeat missions in Chapter 2 are not mandatory. You could skip them (or leave them for later) and still get the Epilogue.

[@centocerez]

As an hardcore MGS fan, this game broke my heart. I wasn't too happy with 4 but from the trailer this seemed like a more grounded and focused entry like MGS3 that would end the saga on a positive note. What we got instead was the best gameplay in the series in the worst overall game. Tone is all over the place, the plot has no structure or rhythm, the open world episodic structure made sense on a PSP game but here it's pointless and immersion breaking, completely useless and empty open world, most of the mission are pointless and boring, the plot twist (which I've seen coming a mile away) is completely unearned and raises more questions that what it answers and the game is clearly unfinished and patched together just to rush a release. It's the only game in the series I played only once, it's just painful.

[@Magnusfication]

Man i agree 100% with u. So sada d a waste of talent and resources. Deleted this the second i f ished the story. Just resently i decided to try it again, bit it feels the same as 5 yeara ago

[@garfieldman2380]

what about Survive, that one failed in both gameplay and story

[@battlemode]

It looks amazing in 4K, I absolutely love the game still.

[@explosionsindasky]

"And had children in your motherbase's spreadsheets" While showing the date mission with Paz heh...

[@shaunfaesolar]

the prompt to move the camera to "look up" etc are actually to set the conrols intuitively - some players like inverted camera movements. Quite smart really.

[@Viktorsmg]

You were supposed to use the cardboard box shipping things for fast travel. I mean, it's LITERALLY fast travel. But I don't recall the game telling you that...

[@Viktorsmg]

@-- Well, I hadn't played the previous MGS games, but since J claims to have...

[@Redstar2613]

"Sahelanthropus, the only boss fight" Volgin and The Skulls are bosses, too.

[@vladimircala4566]

I like the idea of the twist that the player himself has become Big Boss

[@BertonMelch]

Me to it made me feel great and it also puts Venom in his own special place as the villain from MG. Tied up loose ends nice.

[@marianokaz1503]

23:37 Liquid has "Never be game over" written on his shirt, he's clearly a gamer.