Old School Revolver Techniques With a Glock

Can you go old school Jelly Brice and Rex Applegate with a Glock 19?
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[@jackgreenstalk777]

There is a martial artist michael jai white who does a demonstration where he throw 3 punches and has someone move their hand to avoid being hit. First 2 he throws fast but telegraphs strike and they dodge, Third he throws slower by maybe 2 or 3x the speed but doesn't telegraph the punch and tracks their hand as they go to move and hits them with a more deceptive but smooth slow straight jab. Its funny because on video it almost looks fake, he did it with kimbo slice, and you can tell kimbo was legit blown away he got hit. Smooth is fast! The old techniques, and guns, still do a damn good job in capable hands who continually train. I know if something went down you'd be able to handle your biz whether with a glock or a wheel gun. Theres no timers and beeps in real gun fights, so much of the rest of yt gun content is speed speed speed focused like a competition. Practical is what matters. People forget a machete or a musket will still kill them as dead as whatever newest canik or whatever the new hype is😅

[@LionquestFitness]

Whew, thats for sure.

[@jimchambers7548]

Yeah like the ppl who say revolver are useless today. If a 357mag or 38spl stop heartbeats for the last 100yr, it will today. Guns may be different but ppl are built the same

[@LionquestFitness]

@@jimchambers7548 That's very true. A defensive weapon won't save you; it is your ability to use that weapon.

[@joe1940]

The old techniques worked years ago and they still work today.

[@jackgreenstalk777]

I've always felt if you can shoot revolver well it translates to shooting most other handguns well. Nice shooting always enjoy your videos 🇺🇸👍👍

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks for watching.

[@LionquestFitness]

Also, you're absolutely correct about revolver shooting translating to most other handguns.

[@dangerman007]

My favorite saying is "you can't miss fast enough..."

[@LionquestFitness]

Touche!

[@toothless-tiger]

Sensei used to say one technique well learned is more effective than 100 half learned. Thanks for the wisdom.

[@LionquestFitness]

Amen.

[@joejones1779]

I started with the Sheriff's Office in 1990, we switched from .357 mag 686 to glock g22 .40 cal while I was in the academy. So I never got to carry a revolver, but my training was in that style. Plus it was really nice to see a fellow lefty train. Hope you have a wonderful day.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Joe!

[@johnelder4273]

"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast" was the old mantra. Basically, anything you practice enough to be smooth is deceptively fast. I've done those close quarters hip/point shooting drills many times (although we always did them with a "garment sweep") but not recently. I need to refresh my "muscle memory". Great video Greg, thanks.

[@LionquestFitness]

We also need to remember the saying about there being nothing new under the sun. After two decades in LE and now two decades in teaching criminal justice, I'm amazed at how tactics and practices always circle back around as the latest and greatest.

[@johnelder4273]

Yup, every 10 years or so some guy on the Administrative Offices renames an old tried and true way of doing things, changes the name, and makes his next career move selling old ideas as the new "evidence based" method of doing things. Typically he will base his Masters or even his Doctorate Thesis on it. Then we all have to "learn" the "new" method and terminology and pretend it's something new. Usually he is promoted to a District Chief spot and collects a big fat retirement based upon his highest three years of earnings. If you work in the system for 30 years like I did and kept the original training material from when you were a new hire, you can make management real mad by pointing out similarities to the "new" method. Just make sure you are "retirement eligible" before making them too mad. LOL!

[@LionquestFitness]

@@johnelder4273 And how!

[@livincincy4498]

I saw a comment once, “ It is called a hand gun not hands gun. “. This goes to the heart of why Bullseye competition is done (1) handed. It is training. It is meant to be difficult and stressful. If you can shoot 1 handed it is like mastering a double action trigger. Initially it is difficult to do. Eventually it becomes natural to shoot DA. This was a major engineering change in hand gun design and use. Many revolver shooters rarely shoot in single action with a DA revolver. Shooting from the hip & point shooting are good skills to have. Practice is really the only way to learn them. Dry fire practice works fine for this.

[@marcthomas2482]

Smooth is fast, fast is smooth. Great video, Greg!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Marc!

[@anangryranger]

Watching your movement in drawing and firing basically from the hip was indeed smooth. Very well executed. This is a great reminder for old school shooters, and educational for the newer ones. Many thanks for your time and efforts. It does not go unappreciated. 👍 We're from similar backgrounds. I was a boxer on the army boxing team and later boxed in the Police Olympics. As a peace officer, I train every day with my S&W Mod 28. Two or three days a week on the range, and the other days in my garage with the old Speer primer fired plastic cartridges. Had a piece of carpet placed between two studs and a box below to catch the plastic bullets. A B27 target attached to the studs. In this way I trained heavily in true drawing and firing from the hip. I'd spend about 10 to 15 minutes a day training. My training as a boxer was very helpful, in that in the ring, I was constantly moving. I incorporated the "Stick and move" to shooting. Draw, fire, and move. The short training time kept me fresh, as too much time spent in this type of action dulls reaction time. And it simply becomes just going through the motions without benefit. It paid off. I was involved in three shootings during my career. One was with two aggravated robbery suspects existing a business they just robbed. We all stopped at 20ft on the sidewalk. As they raised their pistols, I drew and fired at both. Both went down. I had moved about 6ft diagonally from where I fired from, and I never realized I had moved at all. Proper practice produces positive results I believe. 😏

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you for commenting.

[@Fudmottin]

When you choose to carry light like I do, if something goes down, every single round matters even more than the lawyer attached to it! The question I can't answer is can I actually act as I train? Paul Harrell did a good video on deliberately getting into stressful situations (not life threatening, more like singing karaoke or competition). It looks like what you are going for is deliberate smooth action to get out of trouble. The same mantra, smooth is fast is also applied to motor sports like race car driving and motorcycle racing. "Speed is a byproduct."

[@LionquestFitness]

That is very insightful.

[@oldcop18]

My career began in ‘68 when most of our revolver training was bull’s eye shooting w/little or no reloading drills. Six years later I found myself in a gunfight w/three armed robbery suspects and had to reload my issued Colt Detective Special w/an unauthorized speedloader & was back in the fight quickly. Another officer was trying to reload from the issued dump pouch when he caught a .45 round in the upper chest. No vests then and he did recover in about a year, but his health was never the same and he died in his late 60s. Thx for another informative lesson Greg.

[@LionquestFitness]

I found the article in American Handgunner that Masaad Ayoob wrote about you. Do you mind if I cover it in a future video?

[@oldcop18]

@@LionquestFitnessNot at all, let me know if you have any Q about it.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@oldcop18 What is the best way to get in touch with you if I do?

[@oldcop18]

@@LionquestFitnessI posted my email address but it keeps disappearing, pls let me know if you got it.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@oldcop18 Mine is [e-mail]

[@tomcarr4630]

Outstanding one handed shooting with your G19! Good info again. (Looks like my G19 will get more of a workout this week 😄).

[@LionquestFitness]

And that's a good thing.

[@williamryan9195]

Gregg's one hand shooting very good.

[@Gumby56]

Excellent information as usual, thanks Greg.

[@kylewood8327]

What’s the old saying slow is smooth and smooth is fast! Great video! Practicing one handed shooting is always part of my training, left and right handed.

[@LionquestFitness]

Good job Kyle!

[@shootinitstraight4162]

Excellent one-hand shooting techniques 👍. And a very good description of the Tachy Psyche effect (time distortion perception). Another great video, and which reminds me to practice more one-hand shooting skills!

[@LionquestFitness]

Yep, the Tachy Psyche effect. As you've probably experienced, that is something you never forget.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Great drills, Greg!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Santee!

[@Steve-1955]

Thanks for another fine video. You do move very well.! You have inspired me once again 😎

[@johnochicago8457]

Nice work as usual Greg! I shoot one handed but with lots more muzzle flip than you do. You handle recoil really like it's a 22.

[@lionquestexercise7054]

Well, it was 115 grain Remington range ammo, so that makes a little less recoil.

[@mikeellis4158]

Another of the old time shooters was Chic Gaylord back in the day in NYC. Was a holster designer and combat shooter. He even did a book on shooting techniques.

[@LionquestFitness]

That is one I need to research.

[@EricDaMAJ]

It goes to show practice goes a long way to making any reasonably good technique good enough.

[@LionquestFitness]

Good point.

[@s8tmanpaul77]

Good video Greg. Very informative.

[@mikereese15]

Nice tips

[@ThecrazyScotsman]

People focus on the gun instead of focusing on the situation at hand, understanding the situation and potentially how to avoid it or get out of it without having to use a firearm

[@LionquestFitness]

And that is the key to a successful and happy life. A very good observation.

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

Slow is fast! Fast is slow! 👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸

[@edwardpetty5401]

Excellent content as usual. Thank you.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you for commenting Edward! Have a blessed week this week.

[@marie-noellebaechler1433]

Thank you very much for this video, very interesting, as usual. It's nice (but not surprising) to see that the classics and the basics are still working.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks for commenting today!

[@carloparisi9945]

Hi Greg, good shooting! One-handed firing is a lost art these days. A sword and sabre master of the 19th century whose method I study had a guard with the weak hand well stretched out to the back, I think it is meant to feel obstacles as you move back. It may be useful in one-handed shooting on the move as well.

[@LionquestFitness]

I definitely see the applicability in close quarter sword fighting.

[@UncleDanBand64]

Glad to see you using the Old G19. I just took the stock plastic sights off of mine and swapped them for a peep sight system. Now I will tell you this peep sights on a pistol work way better for my 59 year old eyes. Almost as good as using a red dot. I already had been training with a set on one of my 22 pistols so, I was sold instantly.

[@LionquestFitness]

Hi Dan! Thanks for passing that tip on.

[@UncleDanBand64]

@LionquestFitness Well, at your age you probably still have great eyes😀

[@LionquestFitness]

@@UncleDanBand64 Yep. 20/200 vision with an astigmatism. Growing old is not for sissies.

[@mikeseier4449]

I’m 58 and understand old eyesight problems, Where did you acquire those peep sights?

[@UncleDanBand64]

@@LionquestFitness it beats the alternative sir

[@cleondubois1270]

Good shooting and good advice Greg. Don't have enough of it in structured training & qualification courses. Will think about it on my next range day if I have the range to myself.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you Cleon.

[@donbuchanan4929]

Thanks for another great video! I was getting withdrawal from no video last weekend. I start looking about 6 on Saturday evening LOL! Have a great week,Greg.

[@LionquestFitness]

Last week I got tied up with work and I'm also currently trying to get my EMT recert done.

[@01gater]

Greg I love your videos. I recently purchased a S&W M43C in .22LR. It is fun to shoot. 38spl and 357 prices have gone up over the past years. .22LR economical way to practice and train with. Consider adding S&W M43C to your collection. The M43c will need a trigger job.

[@LionquestFitness]

I'd say you've made a good investment.

[@Ds_Drums]

Cool vid. I like to practice one hand point shooting from the hip every time I go to the range. I figure if I get into it, it will be quick and i will not have time to set, breathe, aim so so need to be fast.

[@LionquestFitness]

Most, according to Claude Werner's research, self defense situations with citizen defenders occur at 4 to 12 feet. Reach out and touch someone distance.

[@jasonaffeldt7838]

Thank you Greg 👍. Thanks for sharing. You and your family take care.🇺🇲🔪🔥🌲

[@gerardklebba8634]

Nice Greg. Been watching all along I saw your other recent point shooting video as well. Smooth is fast. Amen brother. Nice invoking the Duke in your recent hat trick video. I remember when many judo players used to describe a slow, telegraphed, looping punch as a John Wayne punch. Hard to find one like that in his movies. At least the later ones. Top notch content!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks man.

[@lesgillard985]

Great video, and advisevGreg... i meen Grambo😊 I agree with Tyler... a bandanna to match your vest, would have made it perfect 🎉😊

[@LionquestFitness]

I will next time!

[@lesgillard985]

@LionquestFitness 👍make sure it's colour co-ordinated, with what ever revolver/pistol yiu use 😉😉😉

[@fbweaver63]

great shooting the old fashioned way. great references to jellybean and applegate, also. i remember you did a rvideo a while back referencing wyatt earp's slow is smooth and smooth is fast principal. your shifting the principal to martial arts points out that we need to stay practiced with them as we age as creaky is not fast. thanks greg.

[@LionquestFitness]

You said that right about creaky. We definitely have to train smarter as we age. Little things like the wrong shoes can make a big difference. I've been dealing with chronic foot pain for almost a year now and come to find out it was the tennis shoes I had been wearing for running and walking.

[@fbweaver63]

well hopefully a change of shoes will stop it. i've been dealing with hip/sciatic type of pain. i had a doctor wanting to replace my hip, but i think it's sciatic. it's a shame you can't trust a doctor any more.he was going to replace my hip for the money like a shady mechanic. i guess there have always been doctors doing unnecessary surgery.@@LionquestFitness

[@LionquestFitness]

@@fbweaver63 My wife has been a victim of several unnecessary surgeries. I have issues with my lower back and hip. I do a lot of isometric positions with a long belt that seems to help, as well as hanging off a bar and doing leg raises.

[@heitorgomesmd6215]

Hi Greg. Now I understand the reason why you shoot a little slow for my personal taste. Specially to start the first shot. But you shoot very accurately (including snubies). It is the always important “smooth trigger press” factor. But I believe in a real life shooting event, the bad guy would shoot you first. Certainly, a miss would be fatal for the bad guy, because you would not miss him, but we never know. Being a 62 yo guy myself, with shaking hands, I always shoot as soon as the front sight finds the target. And the next shots follow the same rule. God Bless. Happy Trails to You.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you for your comment. I take a lesson from the experiences of Lance Thomas. You can't assume a criminal has a high level of skill. Lance in all four gun battles he encountered was able to retrieve a gun and fire while looking down the barrel of a criminal's gun. His deliberation of effort and resolve not to be a victim made the difference.

[@CarolinaRimfire]

Well done, Greg. Great video. I'm a revolver lover and carry one daily, but there are occasions when a little bit more capacity is warranted. Nice to know some of the training will translate from one platform to another.

[@LionquestFitness]

It absolutely does.

[@CarolinaRimfire]

@@LionquestFitness any word from Rossi about your rp63? Mine hasn't malfunctioned yet, but I'm keeping an eye on it...

[@LionquestFitness]

@@CarolinaRimfire They are supposed to replace it with a new one, but it will take 6-8 weeks. Supposedly the frame was out of spec.

[@LionquestFitness]

Also, I'm not too happy dealing with Taurus customer service. For awhile I thought they'd lost the gun.

[@CarolinaRimfire]

@@LionquestFitness It's a shame Taurus customer service isn't better. Their revolvers have great features (shrouded ejector, transfer bar, option for no Internal lock, etc). I love mine, but I'm always reluctant to recommend them for reasons like this. Hope you get your new Rossi soon! Keep us posted!

[@marciocumpiancumpian2075]

Bom dia meu amigo americano. Sr Grag,ao iniciar o vídeo,ja deparei com a Glock,😂, logo pensei, não será um vídeo típico. Percebi sua cadencia praticamente igual quando atira de revólver, não imaginava que esse seria o tópico do vídeo. Acredito que vi o mesmo vídeo que o Sr falou dos rapazes que atiram a moda antiga e ficam surpresos com o resultado. Obrigado pelo trabalho. Bom domingo ao Sr e sua família 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲

[@LionquestFitness]

Bom dia meu amigo e obrigado por seus comentários amáveis.

[@marciocumpiancumpian2075]

@@LionquestFitness 🙏🤝

[@joep4235]

great vid, thanks Greg ! Makes me want to dust off my Glock 26...

[@LionquestFitness]

Well Joe, contrary to some of the internet Nimrods, I can run a Glock, and I can do it much faster if I stand flat-footed and use a two hand isosceles grip. But, that wouldn't necessarily translate to skills I believe are necessary for self defense. Most folks that can handle a double action revolver do fine with striker fired pistols.

[@Bobbossi]

At our age being in shape is very important. It won’t do well to win the fight and get a heart attack. What is your work out routine. What type of diet ?

[@LionquestFitness]

Isometrics three days a week with a adjustable strap, and bodyweight exercises with self resistance the other three. For diet I stay away from sugar and processed foods as much as possible. Supplements are currently a multivitamin, turmeric, and an olive oil, cayenne pepper, honey and lemon concoction. I'm 63 and take no meds.

[@3Pillers]

Nice shooting Greg. So many reasons why practicing one handed shooting is a good idea. Unfortunately many places / ranges don’t allow drawing from the holster or many other real life scenarios. Moving back - best block don’t be there. Keep em coming.

[@LionquestFitness]

The range where I practice doesn't allow drawing from the holster. These days, my personal range is only for filming. You'll get this, but many won't, but I spend most of my training time at home, working with an unloaded gun, practicing draw and point, developing focus and deliberation of movement.

[@3Pillers]

@@LionquestFitness also at home practice for me includes dry firing with a carefully checked un loaded gun. I practice in the basement. There I can practice drawing from the holster also. I belong to two ranges / clubs. One has an action shooting group, which I joined. It’s not active right now but will start up again next month, warmer weather. There’s drawing from the holster, moving, shooting from behind and over barriers.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@3Pillers That's great! BTW - I was reading up on Kime today while thinking about answering your post. I understand the principle behind it, but how do you pronounce it?

[@3Pillers]

@@LionquestFitness well we weren’t known for our proficiency with Japanese terms and language. “Key me” as one word, Is how we would pronounce it.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@3Pillers 🤣 Sounds like me with Korean!

[@heitorgomesmd6215]

Greg I wonder if you could make one video with the first shots faster than usual and the next ones more slow. Just to test your accuracy in a “fast draw and first shot scenario”. Thank You

[@LionquestFitness]

The thing you have to remember is that every round fired out of that firearm in a defensive action you are responsible for. I'm not interested in hitting innocent bystanders. I have no use for the artificial nature of the speed drills practiced today with special rigs and guns. I have no use for working to a buzzer and timer, which can create a Pavlovian response that can be detrimental in an actual confrontation. Over twenty years later I am still unlearning range responses that were ingrained in me from two decades of LE qualification. And last, I've had the experience of actually drawing my firearm on other human beings. Thankfully I never had to shoot another person, and hopefully will never have to, but I have been in other situations with a person very aggressively trying to take my life. It gives you a different perspective on things. At times I try to be entertaining with my videos, but self defense isn't a game.

[@l.a.3887]

Smooth is good 👍 👌 😎

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍

[@JackSmith-fj6sn]

Hoping to hear about the Rossi revolver and resolution of the problem. Is Rossi guilty of attempting to ignore you to death?

[@LionquestFitness]

They're supposed to send me a new gun within the next few weeks. Allegedly the frame on the other one was out of spec. I'm holding my response until I see what gets sent.

[@LionquestFitness]

I haven't been happy with how this got handled.

[@JackSmith-fj6sn]

Yes have been waiting myself to see if they eventually do you right. If they do might get one for myself. Like the size weight , bbl length.

[@tylermorrison7051]

Good shooting, Greg. @Les Gillard, I'm sure you're out there somewhere, wondering why Greg didn't wear a bandana as an accessory to that groovy vest. 😅 One last thing, Greg. You said you were a black belt in your 20's. Is it safe to say you've attained the coveted gray belt by now? 😄

[@lesgillard985]

Tyler, your right mate.🎉 A well dressed mature man, should always look the part. 😊

[@LionquestFitness]

Saggy grey sweatpants since that is what I practice in these days!

[@tylermorrison7051]

@@LionquestFitness All I've practiced at is eating enough to have gained 12-17 pounds since 2019.

[@tylermorrison7051]

@@lesgillard985 That's right, Les.

[@lesgillard985]

@tylermorrison7051 mate, you and me both, but recently, I have started, a new regime, 😉 I pictured myself graduating from the GRAMBO ACADEMY OF (SILVER TONGUED) REFINED GENTLEMAN

[@Paladin1873]

I just read an article today that assured the reader point shooting has been thoroughly debunked.

[@LionquestFitness]

There's a place and time for it. Whoever wrote that article can't see the forest for the trees.

[@Paladin1873]

@@LionquestFitnessI basically said the same thing in the comment block. There is a time and a place for different shooting techniques and different sighting systems.

[@mrbottomfeeder]

🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍😎

[@tyrantworm7392]

No offence meant dude, but modern firearms techinques are just superior, what you are training here predates Ayoob and Hackerthorn even. You can argue that competition shooting doesn't cross over, but if you are drawing from a CC postition with a carry gun, it's all applicable (though clearly firearms proficiency differs from tactical proficiency). All IPSC/IDPA competitive shooters, well trained military and police personnel will practice both strong and weak hand, but no-one uses a single handed grip in a combat situation unless they are forced to, or ranges are point blank and you are basically speed rocking, using the off hand to keep distance. A proficient person can bill drill from appendix in the time it takes you to get you to get on target. We trained these methods out of our Police in the late 80's, with good reason.

[@LionquestFitness]

No offense, but you are rather clueless to your history and your summation of modern firearms training. I've been around long enough to see how "tactical" techniques circle around and what went out in one decade comes back in the next as the latest and greatest. The speed rock is a good example of what I am talking about. It came on strong in the late eighties and for good reason disappearing in the nineties. It's a crap technique that puts you off balance in close quarters.

[@bigsamdog1]

People wouldn't do that, alter their video to make them look better. Yeah right.

[@LionquestFitness]

Nah, never.

[@locksbog4270]

👍😃✌️🇺🇸💪❤️

[@DanTheWolfman]

Good Vid, I did do Retro Revolver Techniques Work. Watched the footage all news put it out of order hmm. PLEASE ALL go WATCH COMMENT on my PAUL HARRELL TRIBUTE VIDEO Comparing 8 types of 124 gr for Accuracy redo of one he did with 115 which he LIKED!

[@LionquestFitness]

Will do.

[@jimchambers7548]

Itd be nice if Glock made a revolver 🤔

[@LionquestFitness]

LOL - I'd rather see them make a carbine.

[@jimchambers7548]

@@LionquestFitness that would be nice. Glock lever action with a 357mag 7rnd revolver 🔫

[@LionquestFitness]

@@jimchambers7548 😅

[@yuvgotubekidding]

Footwork is definitely a skill and it should be practiced. 👍🫡🇺🇸😎

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

if it aint broke dont fix it