OLD vs NEW Garou Ultimate: Which one is better? ft.

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@wellworkss
@wellworkss 11 ай бұрын
i accidentally enabled a setting for my mic so thats why i might sound a bit weird in the second half of the video also it turns out using the old garou ult method removes the speed buff you usually get from ultimates, didnt realize this until final editing
@Rioyyfb
@Rioyyfb 11 ай бұрын
You should have given yourself a speed buff similar to the speed increase on the new ult so we could see the difference crushed rock actually makes
@NightmareExpunged-p5r
@NightmareExpunged-p5r 11 ай бұрын
Ok
@spectralfilmer1264
@spectralfilmer1264 11 ай бұрын
Hi
@Therealgoose69
@Therealgoose69 11 ай бұрын
ok
@arandomaccount33
@arandomaccount33 11 ай бұрын
yo can you gift me vip and private server+😅
@jazzy_burrito
@jazzy_burrito 11 ай бұрын
For the chasing segment, italso worth noting that Garou's ult moveset was designed at a time where no-one could run so effectively. Remember, the only two characters were "Bald Hero" and Garou. So the speed boost was enough at the time. Not anymore, though!
@Hello_1742
@Hello_1742 10 ай бұрын
I remember the first time I joined TSB, Genos was still in process, but the moment I ACTUALLY played the game was when they were working on Metal bat
@seally_mylike
@seally_mylike 7 ай бұрын
same
@phycoeclipse2125
@phycoeclipse2125 7 ай бұрын
​@@seally_mylikeI remember that like 1 yr ago I was playing with some of my friends ( private servers were not free) and we were always 3rd partied I have no idea what preys peril did and it was so funny
@seally_mylike
@seally_mylike 7 ай бұрын
@@phycoeclipse2125 private srvers were free, but not private+
@Nobody-g1c
@Nobody-g1c 4 ай бұрын
I joined when Genos was being worked on
@Superdoopercoolguy
@Superdoopercoolguy 11 ай бұрын
Thank you,I didn’t know this.I also have this cool little thing I learned with tatsumaki that if you do Stone grave,then windstorm fury,The windstorm will glitch in place and it helps a lot with catching enemies.
@Myaltcooldiey
@Myaltcooldiey 7 ай бұрын
The reason is because stone grave usually blocks attacks like flame wave cannon,most attacks mostly
@Chaoxso
@Chaoxso 11 ай бұрын
11:06 “This is my final stand!” Ah luck 😂
@maxisbrainded
@maxisbrainded 6 ай бұрын
17:53 is more like that
@14K_S14
@14K_S14 6 ай бұрын
nah 23:42 was like that more
@imtherealegg
@imtherealegg 5 ай бұрын
@@14K_S14 u meant 90:34:56
@Stickedimates
@Stickedimates 5 ай бұрын
@@imtherealeggu mean 69:69:69:69
@imtherealegg
@imtherealegg 5 ай бұрын
@@Stickedimates was it that or 50505:79:639
@Blufish-mu5pq
@Blufish-mu5pq 11 ай бұрын
we all know garou is a sweat character and the only reason ppl use the ult is for heals edit: they have infected me i am a (sometimes) garou main now 😔
@elbuissonmignon
@elbuissonmignon 11 ай бұрын
+ They never use Crushed Rock as a combo starting move cuz they prefer using their side dashes 💀
@xdpozu
@xdpozu 11 ай бұрын
@@elbuissonmignon ??
@BecomeRatt
@BecomeRatt 11 ай бұрын
​@@elbuissonmignon❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌
@iamyourmaster2565
@iamyourmaster2565 11 ай бұрын
@@elbuissonmignonthe have to use crushed rock as a combo starter, they can’t use it after the opponent is on the ground. Rock splitting fist has to be used as a combo ender.
@Angkimoteaa
@Angkimoteaa 11 ай бұрын
W saitama users🗿
@P3BBL4
@P3BBL4 11 ай бұрын
I started TSB after it started to get popular when garou got released, his old ult moves were pretty good to combo with each other when he wasn't changed yet.
@evonhong1148
@evonhong1148 10 ай бұрын
I only joined TSB becuase I watched a sketch video and wanted to try it
@ankushalmightgamer
@ankushalmightgamer 9 ай бұрын
Past lives
@albiskeller8058
@albiskeller8058 9 ай бұрын
Still nothing changed hero hunter at this point​@luffygaming972
@Jimmy27397
@Jimmy27397 11 ай бұрын
2:20 you can actually confirm crushed rock because 1. your hit box stays where your flung for a few milliseconds, 2. you cannot dodge fast enough, and 3. I think the length of your side dash and backdash are reduced. Sure, you could counter it with atomic samurai or garou but its still a 50 50 you go against those characters.
@Honzik207
@Honzik207 11 ай бұрын
note that if Garou player has brain, he will not use the crushed Rock to hit you, wasting your counter. This will prepare you for a hot plate of final hunt/whatever moves Garou has at his disposal.
@SealGaminSeal
@SealGaminSeal 9 ай бұрын
Thats what im sayin
@opsoo2229
@opsoo2229 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the crushed rock diss is too much, it's actually a great option for movement and even if old garou ult had a speedboost 90% of the time you weren't gonna catch your opponent, and rock splitting fist is meant to be a combo ender so comparing it to hunter cruelty which is a combo extender is unfair.
@SaNicbOom6767
@SaNicbOom6767 11 ай бұрын
I think people don't know when to use crushed rock and thats why they think the move its bad
@Koalbalt
@Koalbalt 11 ай бұрын
Plus, you can also use Crushed Rock as a combo extender with a mini-upprrcut into flowing water and then final hunt. Just gotta know how to use it right!
@Koalbalt
@Koalbalt 11 ай бұрын
@SaNicbOom6767 Exactly, and I'm not saying that the old moves didn't combo together more easily, but they diss Crushed Rock specifically way too much
@tikcu5173
@tikcu5173 11 ай бұрын
​​@@SaNicbOom6767Materia said it's the worst move + it has a ton of startup no matter how good you use it. Before near update it even used to be PUNISHABLE BECAUSE YOU LANDED IT. Literally anyone who could counter rc could punish you FOR SUCCESSFULLY LANDING IT. Floaty just played it terribly against new moveset because if he just kept dashing he would have avoided every crushed rock easily.
@zingaboid
@zingaboid 11 ай бұрын
@@tikcu5173crushed rock shouldnt be used as a dash move
@quickhallsshow576
@quickhallsshow576 11 ай бұрын
The new version is slightly better in my opinion cuz chasing people is literally HELL
@joel784
@joel784 11 ай бұрын
Atleast you are not treated like a monkey
@anime_fan-k6c
@anime_fan-k6c 3 ай бұрын
Then why did u say the new one is better
@quickhallsshow576
@quickhallsshow576 3 ай бұрын
@@anime_fan-k6c because it has a mobility move?
@anime_fan-k6c
@anime_fan-k6c 3 ай бұрын
@@quickhallsshow576 oh
@ChupapiMynana
@ChupapiMynana 11 ай бұрын
New garou ult: hehe, funny dash Old garou ult:FEAR ME, I CAN ONE SHOT YOU FOR SECONDS! Redacted: OMFG 150+ likes FOR 12 HOURS. THX BOIS
@BobuxManSus
@BobuxManSus 11 ай бұрын
that is so true tho, i remember in the old times when someone had garou ult almost NO ONE tried to go after him
@boggy7091
@boggy7091 11 ай бұрын
So can the new one wdym ☠️
@yobitsgaming
@yobitsgaming 11 ай бұрын
@@boggy7091dude there was so many more combos u could do with old garou.
@yobitsgaming
@yobitsgaming 11 ай бұрын
@@boggy7091it was way better
@BobuxManSus
@BobuxManSus 11 ай бұрын
@@yobitsgaming your so right🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ZebracopYT
@ZebracopYT 11 ай бұрын
This is kinda a blast for the past. I played the game when this moves where garous ult
@-RandomStranger-
@-RandomStranger- 11 ай бұрын
Same
@neil5165
@neil5165 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact: preys peril was called doomed prey in his old ult. useless but if u were wondering
@BonjoonKoo-u9q
@BonjoonKoo-u9q 11 ай бұрын
litteraly shows
@neil5165
@neil5165 11 ай бұрын
@@BonjoonKoo-u9q shows what?
@Asian_Phan
@Asian_Phan 11 ай бұрын
he literally said what it was called before and people that played long time ago would know🤦‍♂❤💩🍆😩🤓👽🗿coems🤑😈😭❗😢😂💀🔥😡😈😔ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ🍆+🍑+🥛=👶
@neil5165
@neil5165 11 ай бұрын
Kids I mean to the new people that haven't played when it was older yall stupid 🤣
@neil5165
@neil5165 11 ай бұрын
@@Asian_Phan ayyo
@BingChillingCitizen
@BingChillingCitizen 11 ай бұрын
even before the doomed prey move, it had a version that was a counter, which was just Preys Peril but faster, and blows em away really far in the air.
@TheCatHasFallen
@TheCatHasFallen 11 ай бұрын
I thought for a sec i was the only person that thinks this, cause i thought i had a mandela effect where garous ult counter use to actually knock away opponents instead of doing a slam
@forgotten6769
@forgotten6769 11 ай бұрын
isnt that the finisher?
@epicnightmare5600
@epicnightmare5600 11 ай бұрын
@@forgotten6769 there werent any finishers before they would just ragdoll
@iamsam2392
@iamsam2392 9 ай бұрын
2:54 the counter move is also an old finisher for preys peril
@phycoeclipse2125
@phycoeclipse2125 7 ай бұрын
No it wasn't preys peril had no finisher back then
@mysteryperson101something7
@mysteryperson101something7 6 ай бұрын
@@phycoeclipse2125fr all it did was just fling people very far
@minosprimus
@minosprimus 5 ай бұрын
@@phycoeclipse2125 it did
@phycoeclipse2125
@phycoeclipse2125 5 ай бұрын
@@minosprimus no? It just flung j away
@irritawaa
@irritawaa 5 ай бұрын
​@@iamsam2392 that's complete bs
@jforcenet
@jforcenet 11 ай бұрын
2:27 POV: garou players that have a brain predicts the side dash and lands it
@multiversedoge
@multiversedoge 11 ай бұрын
Am i the only one whos clicking on wellwork videos that have been made 10-50 seconds ago.
@Abdullah94254
@Abdullah94254 11 ай бұрын
Not only u
@TrueZartist
@TrueZartist 11 ай бұрын
Yeah indeed
@cringeInduced
@cringeInduced 11 ай бұрын
Crushed rock is actually pretty good considering once someone uses an ultimate in public half the server also does causing A LOT of dust particles to appear making you unable to see jack.
@cheeto155
@cheeto155 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember old crushed rock?..
@hoganhuang1414
@hoganhuang1414 11 ай бұрын
Ye
@edithborjas448
@edithborjas448 9 ай бұрын
Yea it used to just knock them down without going back the going back was used as a finisher to crushed rock
@rajkumarbanerjee9236
@rajkumarbanerjee9236 8 ай бұрын
No one talks about that old animation sadly
@ToastBehindBeans
@ToastBehindBeans 6 ай бұрын
​@@edithborjas448Suplex is what it's called
@Cryingfrog2936
@Cryingfrog2936 5 ай бұрын
I wished they kept it :(
@gabyjohal
@gabyjohal 11 ай бұрын
Old Garou was so good
@bigbosses4686
@bigbosses4686 11 ай бұрын
It was only good because of their being no runners. If it was still in use today, it would be worse.
@-RandomStranger-
@-RandomStranger- 11 ай бұрын
​@@bigbosses4686 it was better used when the ENEMY popped ult first, since it had a much bigger awakening range, and the enemy was forced to either fight you or waste their ult (although there was only Saitama and a little of Genos back then)
@Bubudude
@Bubudude 4 ай бұрын
New garou is so underrated
@vitia2285
@vitia2285 10 ай бұрын
i heard somewhere even this cant access the true old garou ult because the old garou ult had much more Invincibility frames, but still very cool how we can see a part of the TSB history
@mrmagmacube3065
@mrmagmacube3065 11 ай бұрын
I personally think new Garou ult is better because crushed rock is a dash move and their are no ranged moves in the old ult, if your really good like Wellworks (obviously) you will be able to hit them ez pz but with new players learning the game, or players that have been playing for a little while may not be able to hit it, just because they may not have mastered side dashing or forward dashing. but you can think what you want. and I hope I dont start an arguement.
@Zenseryx
@Zenseryx 11 ай бұрын
We are killing teamers with this one!! 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
@ZoroRoronoa469
@ZoroRoronoa469 11 ай бұрын
Yessir we are dude 😎🗣🔥🗿
@maradaxus
@maradaxus 11 ай бұрын
Wopaganganstale🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@SauceHighInMath
@SauceHighInMath 11 ай бұрын
​@@maradaxusaybasilsilbeysil arturgatun na bay beylin 🗣🗣🔥🔥
@RealUberman1
@RealUberman1 11 ай бұрын
The reason Garous old ult is bad now is because of him being the only character without ranged moves which now you need ranged moves to truly be affective. The new ult isn’t much better but it at least has one decent ranged move. Before Garous ult was updated ranged moves weren’t a big thing literally every character had which is why he used to be the best character now he obviously isn’t. Also the old ult preys peril always was buggy.
@elbuissonmignon
@elbuissonmignon 11 ай бұрын
Are you really saying that new garou is better ? are you serious ? The lack of mobility was clearly carried by the insane damage, with only the 1, 3 and 4 skill, you could do a near one shot combo. The new garou doesn't have a good mobility too, it has a move with around 12 frames of start up with a mid speed and it's easily dodgeable. So it's not a decent ranged move cuz it's trash and finally the fact that old preys peril was always buggy isn't an argument at all
@jennerman661
@jennerman661 11 ай бұрын
@@elbuissonmignon Most people just start running from the old ult garou because he had counter move which from u dying easly(even with speed boost from ult It was hard to catch up people who running away from you, I was playing the old garou, I know what I'm saying) and yes, he did not literally say that the new ult garou is better than the old one(me too)
@SaNicbOom6767
@SaNicbOom6767 11 ай бұрын
@@jennerman661 i think the new ult is better because if know when to use crushed rock it's the perfect tool for chasing down runners
@bromanbrod1804
@bromanbrod1804 11 ай бұрын
​@@SaNicbOom6767shut up old ult garou is better
@SaNicbOom6767
@SaNicbOom6767 11 ай бұрын
@@elbuissonmignon do people know you can side dash and jump to cover a lot more distance with crushed rock
@OminousGooberX
@OminousGooberX 11 ай бұрын
I started playing TSB when it used to be Hunter's Cruelty ._.
@squggily
@squggily 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think they should’ve swapped hunters cruelty with crushed rock instead of rock splitting fist because hunters cruelty is just a hunters grasp finisher but doomed prey should stay but have some buffs like it can counter more moves including ultimate moves and maybe have deflected projectiles do more dmg too. I’m not sure but I think I just really miss the old move set.
@Rigged2Explode
@Rigged2Explode 11 ай бұрын
Gotta remember that Old garou was actually nearly completely invincible in his ult, cause the old barrage had i-frames and on top of that his counter was pretty solid. And his final hunt didnt deal as much dmg, which made up for hunter's cruelty being able to combo extend.
@-RandomStranger-
@-RandomStranger- 11 ай бұрын
Also the range of final hunt was much bigger
@TheEmpireBroadcaster
@TheEmpireBroadcaster 11 ай бұрын
uh.. quick tip.When used rock splitting fist.. quickly side dash when it ends then use the dash move. It should be either 50/50 to hit the opponent
@Mightbebens107
@Mightbebens107 11 ай бұрын
you guys aren't noting that garou just recently got a new buff, which is the removed endlag for when you hit your crushed rock. This means that if you hit crushed rock you can instantly use final hunt and they wont be able to escape it. This is why new garou ult is just better
@epicnightmare5600
@epicnightmare5600 11 ай бұрын
man i remember when people said garou was pay to win good times
@Teorema_dogatoinfinito
@Teorema_dogatoinfinito 11 ай бұрын
We gotta agree that the new ult attacks are much cooler tho
@CosmicBoiVeryCool
@CosmicBoiVeryCool 11 ай бұрын
yea but even tho they are cooler the moves made the ult so bad, the old ult moves were much more viable than the present moves.
@Mightbebens107
@Mightbebens107 11 ай бұрын
​@@CosmicBoiVeryCoolhow do u plan on catching your opponent, new ult actually gives u a chance
@Zane-Satoru
@Zane-Satoru 11 ай бұрын
@@Mightbebens107 New ult has such a big start up on all of the moves people can dash away or punish you for using crushed rock like bro
@-RandomStranger-
@-RandomStranger- 11 ай бұрын
​@@Mightbebens107 that "gives a chance" is a simple stun and free combo opportunity to smart players, meanwhile in the old one it was always very risky even AFTER the enemy missed an attack since all of Garou's old moves had s and if you didnt attack in time they could just counter-attack with final hunt or doomed prey
@CosmicBoiVeryCool
@CosmicBoiVeryCool 11 ай бұрын
@@Mightbebens107 sometimes when u use crushed rock you have a wide opening which lets the opponent take advantage of it. The old ult tho it has lots of s, was more viable and was risky for the opponent if they missed the shot.
@Rioyyfb
@Rioyyfb 11 ай бұрын
You should have given yourself a speed buff in the old ultimate to make so we can really see if crushed rock makes that much of a difference
@weirdodudeman
@weirdodudeman 10 ай бұрын
Tip: To baffle someone when you wanna rock splitting fist then crushed rock, sidedash anywhere then crushed rock. Enemy most likely will dash to you or sidedash away, which will fail, considering the jump length of crushed rock.
@unknown-10214
@unknown-10214 11 ай бұрын
9:21 ‘u gotta play like those mobile players that just run for their lives’ HEY NOT ALL OF THEM DO FLOATY
@CallMeMidnightlol
@CallMeMidnightlol 11 ай бұрын
fr, i’ve destroyed many ults on mobile
@neil5165
@neil5165 11 ай бұрын
Nahhh Lil bro risked 76 persent of his fans for that disrespect
@UmmmIDKYet
@UmmmIDKYet 11 ай бұрын
@@CallMeMidnightlolsame bro im on mobile too and I’ve destroyed many ults
@Casual_guy1234
@Casual_guy1234 11 ай бұрын
YEAH, IM A MOBILE PLAYER, I KILL STEAL NOT RUN LIKE A COWARD
@The_Jayden00
@The_Jayden00 11 ай бұрын
i destroy on mobile
@splatboynick5149
@splatboynick5149 11 ай бұрын
fun fact about crushed rock is that the final part when you smash them into the ground was only a finisher for the move before it was changed
@andrewmalbon
@andrewmalbon 11 ай бұрын
1:04 hunters grasp is hunters cutlery, and the counter move is doomed, pray
@cosmic_baller
@cosmic_baller 4 ай бұрын
Crushed rock should be a little faster, and i think hunters cruelty needs to come back. Garou have received a lot and when i mean by alot, i mean ALOT of nerfs, even if, he is still pretty good. I personally think the admin should add another passive that is not that strong but not that weak either.
@TotaInsanity
@TotaInsanity 11 ай бұрын
Bro made a game theory : which garou ultimate is better video
@M.FadhlanAZ-qr1lf
@M.FadhlanAZ-qr1lf 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if they are just changed the ult counter to crushed rock. That will be so powerful.
@albiskeller8058
@albiskeller8058 9 ай бұрын
Can u say it right bc i had a headache after i read this do u mean the counter got changed into crushed rock?
@Viperthekingoftheskies
@Viperthekingoftheskies 4 ай бұрын
We Need old hero hunter back
@BlueArrowTSB
@BlueArrowTSB 11 ай бұрын
Bro had the most INSANE luck at 11:03
@MLY_BACON946
@MLY_BACON946 11 ай бұрын
Man,the old good days. No sonic,no genos runner, and no spammer. Also, i think they add crushed rock because theres soo many runner(?)
@kaicheese2
@kaicheese2 11 ай бұрын
tf you mean old days genos existed when garou was released and table flip spammers were literallt clearing the place
@TheHighLvlDude
@TheHighLvlDude 11 ай бұрын
Ngl I personally would’ve preferred the old Ult but with the speed of the new one, cuz not only would you have the potential to catch up to runners but also a move set that works well with eachother
@sickothem5869
@sickothem5869 11 ай бұрын
Old Garou’s ult combos were so deadly back then. Now the ult is extremely trash if you don’t even know how to use it
@Ilovetdsducks
@Ilovetdsducks 7 ай бұрын
Old garou ult move giving me nostalgia moment when I first use garou
@thisiskoiforsure13
@thisiskoiforsure13 11 ай бұрын
Hunter cruelty is actually crude because it does less damage now and actually you can do more attacks while the hunter’s cruelty is the main first attack and yet they can escape.
@seaSawltLOL
@seaSawltLOL 11 ай бұрын
"I dont have anyone to test it out on" **proceeds to deflect with a shuriken thrown by a player**
@Deadeyewear
@Deadeyewear 11 ай бұрын
I think I thought of something that could help,not completely solve the fact that Garous ultimate is basically used as a free heal but could still help, passive:hunters mark,when a player is hit by garous ultimate awakening they get slowed down by 35% this will apply until the player is dead or until the ultimate is gone
@Deadeyewear
@Deadeyewear 11 ай бұрын
Or maybe it could go on stacks of 10% all the way up to 50% but then again if someone really tries they can avoid most of garous ultimate moves,also it’d cause a little more chaos as then most people would be slowed
@Iminvisible
@Iminvisible 10 ай бұрын
2:50 the counter move was called doomed prey
@FallenVZX
@FallenVZX 11 ай бұрын
The old ult has more combo potential, but it is hard to catch runners . The new ult has less combo potential, but is better with runners.
@shadowkiller9009
@shadowkiller9009 11 ай бұрын
nah if you play with pro player you will get cooked but the old 1 you have prey paril and its have fast cooldown then the normal one the pro player cant do anything if you did prey to him everytime he dash to you or side dash to you
@Starbird75122
@Starbird75122 7 ай бұрын
3:52 use it at close range after some m1s if they’ve used side dash
@zepelli_memes
@zepelli_memes 5 ай бұрын
tbh i think garou's new ult needs a change it should instead use cosmic garou's moves and when they activate ult it drags players near him and then causes an explosion that can deal 40 damage 1st move is a counter it can counter all moves except saitama's 1st 2nd and 4th move 2nd move is cosmic punch this move can create a small portal where the garou ult grabs the player and smashes their face on the floor but this move only activates when cursor is present on a player 3rd move is cosmic barrage the garou ult runs around the enemy and then travels throught multiple portals causing a dent on the floor and then teleports in front of the enemy and does a punch barrage and then punches the ground causes an explosion 4th move is divine cosmic plummet where the garou ult launches a lot of rocks into the sky with you and and then jumps from rock to rock and punch you. also the more damage you do to the garou ult makes his ult bar go down,
@bobbyuser1
@bobbyuser1 11 ай бұрын
Tbh the new moveset is a better counter ult than others (except satiama), where you can chase, punish but be punished and very lethal (as he has a move that goes through satiama’s death counter) basically making a character where if you’re not careful you will die however, his old moveset is more of a combo ult where each and every move, perfectly combines into each other allowing the highest damage out put and hard to punish as well, basically a god damn Truck you do not want to be hit by. Also the old moveset fits garou more in my opinion and I prefer the combo too.
@bobbyuser1
@bobbyuser1 11 ай бұрын
P.S I just realised this is technically better against teamers as it has a lot more AOE and has a counter
@SomeGuy-jn9cb
@SomeGuy-jn9cb 11 ай бұрын
Honestly knowing Strongest dev team if they get enough complaints they might rework the ult. I’m sure they were even considering to begin with it’s not as flashy or strong as the new ones now
@Skyguyzie
@Skyguyzie 11 ай бұрын
Hunter’s grasp was a ending attack in the old ult and prey peril was a prey peril then a down slam…
@rowdy_rish
@rowdy_rish 6 ай бұрын
i hope garou ult gets reworked its so easy to run from and it has 0 cinematic cutscenes (not complaining)
@michellesullivan7541
@michellesullivan7541 11 ай бұрын
I think the new garou ult contrast Garou in the anime alot better. He stops trying to go for combos and just trys to kill you, that's all he is focused on, with 2 dashes he's always on your tail. He's smelled blood and the waters are coated red. He is done reading your attacks and finding counterplay, all he is trying to do is finish you.
@Gamerz_Land450
@Gamerz_Land450 11 ай бұрын
i remember the old garou ult it was overpowerd and so cool i remember it being like orange and a orange spot on your eye
@ISEEYOU979
@ISEEYOU979 9 ай бұрын
hunter's cruelty is literally just the hunter's grasp finisher with less damage
@SAIGO369
@SAIGO369 11 ай бұрын
also the old one was so good everyone was running bc of the how op it was but now bc of the explosion it does
@psu_k
@psu_k 11 ай бұрын
its a no brainer these ult moves got removed, once you got caught in a garou ult's grasp it'd be impossible to escape them. they replaced the moves to make garous ult more easier to escape. then again they were literally just copy and pasted from the normal garou moveset
@nathanleezhenweimoe
@nathanleezhenweimoe 11 ай бұрын
I feel like garou's crushed rock is actually pretty good, Although it's easy to counter, it's very easy to hit when you side dash and use it, if they have a counter you basically have 3 moves.
@Yuppuduluku
@Yuppuduluku Ай бұрын
this is like taking an ancient artifact and then claiming you made the artifact
@arandomguywitharandomlife
@arandomguywitharandomlife 11 ай бұрын
i feel like alot of people already knows this but there's a TRUE combo that no one can escape not even with evasive,and its the easiest combo: 1+2
@richisdaman
@richisdaman 11 ай бұрын
I remember this cuz I started playing when Garou was still early access
@USA1546-k1i
@USA1546-k1i 8 ай бұрын
I first time played TSB when it was called Saitama Battlegrounds now its The Strongest Battlegrounds. i like the saitama ult tho, 4 moves, 1 shot, instant kill except for serious punch if the opponent is full health
@RealBaldGoku
@RealBaldGoku 11 ай бұрын
"The speed is not speeding." -Floaty
@Crusty_Cheddar
@Crusty_Cheddar 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact that most people know! Doomed prey is a instant attack,and preys peril has 1 second then attack If you don’t get it preys peril has a small charge you when you counter them Idk how to explain
@kalcey1
@kalcey1 11 ай бұрын
tip for landing crushed rock: step 1: waste their ragdoll step 2: land an m1 combo (m1 + m1+ m1+ uplift) step 3: use crushed rock step 4: profit
@Viyde
@Viyde 11 ай бұрын
honestly crushed rock depends on the player. The example you used of rock splitting fist which isn't supposed to be used as a combo starter wasn't a good example but i guess it does explain your point about the gap to dodge. But crushed rock is used as a combo starter because if you use crushed rock + water stream + final hunt you can kill them instantly. If you dont have final hunt you go into rock splitting fist instead. I get that they shouldn't have replaced the counter with crushed rock, But at the same time i dont think it would be fair to have a counter in an ult. It would make a Saitama main like me cry a river. I think instead of using crushed rock after splitting fist you should side dash + dash to save that ability. And once they dodge you use it, works most of the time for me because they waste their dash.
@marouane2354
@marouane2354 11 ай бұрын
I got a move idea for garous ult name : rock of the flowing cascade : the person slams the ground then picks a rock then he rapidly throws it and you cant counter it cuz its too fast and unpredictable if the owner sees this garou needs range
@ammar9068
@ammar9068 11 ай бұрын
idk why but i think you and floaty are the best duo like goku and vegeta or saitama and genos
@bigbosses4686
@bigbosses4686 11 ай бұрын
I have an idea: What if Crushed Rock had an aoe for when he misses sort of like Thunder Kick’s aoe, but he doesn’t get quite as much damage. The other option is to change the move into something into something like Toji’s shadow blitzing ult move like in Cursed Arena
@goofuston
@goofuston 11 ай бұрын
probaly the ground smash thing could just be the old crushed rock anim when you land it but a bit more impactful i guess also no the shadow blitz idea kinda sucks since its completely wack like the fight mechanic
@DrSelVonSands
@DrSelVonSands 11 ай бұрын
Me and my brother say that New Ult is better than Old Ult because of the chase capabilities and the combos that can be preformed, however we both agree that Garou is long overdue for ult rework
@BatacTheOnly
@BatacTheOnly 11 ай бұрын
If your fighting someone with a brain 💀
@Resolution2026
@Resolution2026 11 ай бұрын
“Garou’s ult isn’t even good” Has a 100% combo
@ZainnhyDude
@ZainnhyDude 11 ай бұрын
Crushed rock and doomed prey should've been combined with each other. Like the startup is the counter, then the dash.
@laurieannegross9156
@laurieannegross9156 11 ай бұрын
we subcre'bing with this one🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🥶🥶🥶
@onishiranui
@onishiranui 11 ай бұрын
this debate can stay up in arms but the old music and yellow aura went way harder imngl
@curioustheking
@curioustheking 11 ай бұрын
I think they need to bring the old preys peril back since it's the only base counter move that can't be combo extended (if the move is hit completely) unlike atomic samurai's counter which can be combo extended
@epicsharky2345
@epicsharky2345 11 ай бұрын
I just missed doomed preys. Imagine having a very low cooldown time counter in your ultimate and base.
@shavetamittal3191
@shavetamittal3191 11 ай бұрын
There was a time when there was hunters cruelty with crushed rock, that was the best garou ult time
@sifumonkey78
@sifumonkey78 11 ай бұрын
it just needs a full on rework, maybe monster garou. I think the old version isn't very creative because it just reuses his base moveset while the newer one just doesn't compete with the other characters
@Memmmeeboiiiiiiiii
@Memmmeeboiiiiiiiii 7 ай бұрын
4 months late but when u did the ult preys peril it used to wring around like it did with crushed rock now
@Sillybillywastaken
@Sillybillywastaken 11 ай бұрын
For combos, old is a bit better, but for chasing runners new clears
@dexternatividad5570
@dexternatividad5570 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@jiyop_
@jiyop_ 11 ай бұрын
All they have to do is remove the end lag when you miss crushed rock for it to be somewhat viable
@specificocean4176
@specificocean4176 11 ай бұрын
Lower the startup aswell, its so easy to react to
@HorizonOnDaHorizonYT
@HorizonOnDaHorizonYT 11 ай бұрын
I’m probably going insane but I think Garou used to have a crushed rock variant when it would immediately smash you into the ground by grabbing your face and pushing you down but I have no idea if it’s real lol
@Ilovecalamitas
@Ilovecalamitas 10 ай бұрын
its just the old variant of it. the new one is the old's finisher
@NoobAndABaldBacon
@NoobAndABaldBacon 5 ай бұрын
Bro now looking at this I miss it, I remember using the first move then the hunters grasp one then final hunt but the preys peril for the ult never worked out for me
@Imeantheoppositeofthingisay
@Imeantheoppositeofthingisay 11 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure old garou was more like “catch them and you win” type ult.
@muisaainee1594
@muisaainee1594 11 ай бұрын
Dude , the only thjng they should do is nerf garou base moves , like i dont think his first m1 does 3 damage , cuz i ranked it's really wierd , some sweat comes just lands 2 flowing and 2 hunter's grasp an we are dead , like that is crazy.
@The_Hentai_Dealer397
@The_Hentai_Dealer397 4 ай бұрын
literally a skill issue
@atifuddin1147
@atifuddin1147 11 ай бұрын
if they get rid of the final hunt people are gonna leave fr
@chris2008
@chris2008 11 ай бұрын
literally no one dares to hit you back when doomed prey still exist but now that crushed rock replaced sonic users just spam you to death since you cant counter (i know you can block it but its still annoying asf since it takes up so much time)
@mbeniyooo
@mbeniyooo 11 ай бұрын
people just realize this in 2024 and i found this in 2023
@mariowithagun1941
@mariowithagun1941 11 ай бұрын
I like the new Garou but the old Garou ult was just more fun.
@a5t3r1sk
@a5t3r1sk 11 ай бұрын
I just found out about a second split counter glitch last week. The guy basically did a death cpunter using split second on the wr9ng guy Apparently its a bug ingame
@callumsmith2862
@callumsmith2862 11 ай бұрын
11:40 “the speedbuff is not speeding bro”
@kiwien1086
@kiwien1086 4 ай бұрын
Garou is the best ult because it has a 1 shot combo which is extremely fast and its very easy to land Just use crushed rock and use the final hunt Crushed rock does around 30% and final hunt does SO much damage it literally 1 shots with only 2 moves but it can only be used on 1 person because final hunt will never regen I have never seen anyone else do it before but only i have tried it
@xqloxo
@xqloxo 11 ай бұрын
The old ult used the regular flowing water, it just slammed you into the ground.
@Cootieb
@Cootieb 11 ай бұрын
OLD GAROU IS HEAT 🔥 🥵
@elbuissonmignon
@elbuissonmignon 11 ай бұрын
npc
@Cootieb
@Cootieb 11 ай бұрын
🤖 @@elbuissonmignon
everything went wrong for this hacker.
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